Generally speaking, when someone announces they're "partnering" in a $1.2 billion dollar project, the partner is standing beside them.
Generally speaking, when someone announces they're "partnering" in a $1.2 billion dollar project, the partner is standing beside them.
Um, wow.
I have to admit, I'm tempted to make a broad, sweeping statement here, but I'll let it pass.
But just to say something substantive, does anyone else find it odd that they want the gov't to sell something that's actually profitable, and then still pitch in money on the project? I mean, "Sell us the casinos, or we walk. But if you sell them to us, we want you to foot the bill for the stadium." I'd guess there wouldn't be any gov't equity stake in the project thereafter, either, but that just might be a faulty assumption.
Saskatchewans Enterprise minister's quote:"I've always said right from the beginning that I don't want to cut any private sector proposal short. I want to hear it full out. I want to see the full proposal in its entirety," Cheveldayoff said.
A group of Saskatchewan First Nations, every one of them it's own native government entity, is considered the "Private Sector".
Obviously, the real private sector is something this government needs explained to them.
As a Winnipeg Blue Bombers fan, I can only hope that this proposal.....
There's a casino in Regina? When did that happen?
Curious that the architect for this non-partnered proposal, one Douglas J. Cardinal, features this project prominently on his website as his "current project".
Some enterprising "investigative journalist" might like to enquire into Mr. Cardinal's track record in completing projects. For instance, h/she may want to enquire into his role in the National Museum of the American Indian, in Washington, D.C. He was the "primary design architect", but "was removed" from the project after "contractual disputes". It may be well worth one's time to enquire of members of the architectural firm Jones & Jones Architects, of Seattle, WA, why they were called in to finish the project and what they had to do to finish it.
Just sayin.
The Seminole Tribe, and others, are mixed up with some very dangerous people. Partnering with that group is a very, very bad idea. Not only would construction be influenced by organized crime, the operations would have to pay a cut, as well. Does Regina, and Saskatchewan, really want to go down that road?
dp: A quick Google search on the Seminoles is quite interesting.
I wonder why Saskatchewan First Nations groups would be partnering with thugs and mobsters.
Or have they already?
Beardy's Okamasis Chief Rick 'GAMBLE' ?
Man, you can't write this stuff!
"The Seminole Tribe, and others, are mixed up with some very dangerous people."
Oh my! Saskatchewan First Nations scamming the embarrassingly gullible citizens of Saskatchewan? Say it ain't so.
Good On the Indians...Speculation is the first step to reality...The Indians OWN a very desirable status; no taxation...They can, if serious & straight, raise Capital...
The Saskatchewan first Nations can import anything “Legal” from American Tribes without any tax.....
1. Tobacco in the USA is manufactured by a consortium of Indian Tribes...This is worth billions.. Sask can import Indian to Indian
2. The Arizona Indian Gambling popularity and revenue has increased since Nevada posted unpopular social regulations. Nevada is sinking
3. New car Dealerships would work, may need to be foreign to avoid Gov't control manipulation
Use it or lose it
"Obviously, the real private sector is something this government needs explained to them."
Gee Doowleb, I've never seen a real private sector that solely existed from federal government monies by an act of Parliament. Who else would be so cocky as to tell the provincial to sell a profitable enterprise and give the proceeds to the "competition". The nation of eternal entitlement has certainly been smoking wacky tobaccy.
And don't even get me started on the ways of the forefathers including hunting buffalo and operating casinos.
Hey Texas, My comment was specifically referring to the fact that they were in no way private sector.
Looks like the local "partner" is not stuck between a hard and a rock place....
I personally do not gamble at casinos because I do not like the math. And, I would prefer that our First Nations fellow Canadians became well represented in all professions and industries rather than specializing in gambling. Having said that, I sincerely wish Chief Richard Gamble and his partners (real or imagined) the very best of luck and good governance in any endeavour they undertake that will help to get more First Nations people working and improving their sense of self-worth.
It is my understanding Chief Richard Gamble served honourably in the RCMP and with Immigration Canada prior to becoming a respected chief. If you are reading this post Chief Gamble, good luck to you!
Sorry there Doowleb, I must have overdosed on Olympic First Nations hype.
These guys are having problems "partnering" too.
"Everybody" has to partner...
"I don't think it's as simple as just showing up on the doorstep," Simmonds said. "These things involve long, protracted investigations.
"It's not as simple as walking up to all 29 or 31 that's listed ... and just dealing with them that easily. It involves getting partnerships, it involves consultations with the stakeholders, it involves the communities themselves.
"Everybody has to be part of this process."
http://www.simcoereformer.ca/ArticleDisplay.aspx?archive=true&e=1148458
so sayeth Chief Sh!tting Bull
This entire debacle is entertaining to say the least.
Apparently Chief Gamble jumped the gun regarding partnering with the Seminoles. Of course, the local media were all over the announcement but were predictably too lazy to make a simple phone call to Florida to confirm the deal. I guess their idea of reporting is listening to the John Gormley Show and regurgitating.
Speaking of Gormley ... he should make a point of having Chief Gamble and a spokesperson from the Seminoles on his show to give their versions of the story. I thoroughly enjoy Gormley's show and usually agree with his views but he is studiously careful and treads very lightly on subjects involving the First Nations.
Even more entertaining is the reaction of the NDP opposition who never miss an opportunity to criticize any Sask Party initiative and, at the same time, drag out their tired old comparisons to the Grant Devine years. Since this proposed venture involves the First Nations, the hands of the NDP are tied since they don't wish the race card to be used against them.
We live in interesting times here in Saskatchewan.
Here comes another FNUC fiasco. Why anybody would want to "partner" with the FSIN so soon after that fiasco is mind boggling.
"The Tribal Council of the Seminole Tribe of Florida has not considered or approved any aspect of any project in the province of Saskatchewan, Canada."
Sounds like someone's bullshi**ing the troops here. I wonder if the Natives figure the government is gullible enough to sell them the casinos on their word.
Does Regina really NEED a covered football stadium? How many days per year can they rent it out?
I hope somebody's done their homework.
I've got it on good authority that a chap named Gorgamec has offered to step-in in place of the Seminals on the Stadium bid and has pledged 80 million Marklar which is plenty of Marklar for Marklar.
Seminols
I told you the US is going to take over Canada. This is just the very first small step.
I have a bee in my bonnet: Why are so many people effortlessly adopting the "First Nations" propaganda tag?
Don't! Everytime you use that bullshit phrase you are subtly bowing, forfeiting your own heritage and maybe even your property down the line. I'm from BC: apparently it isn't a joke: more than 100% of BC is under Indian (see how easy it is) claim.
I will not call them "First Nations". I call them Indians, or Native Indians in a context in which my interlocutor might think I was referring to Indians from India.
Texas Canuck, while I boycotted the State Circus, I heard through the grapevine (spouse) about the Indian Aristocracy Act. Sickening.
Me No Dhimmi What is the Indian Aristocracy Act?
Translation:
See, you have these odd cash cows here and there so we put them up in our main stable and get them off your back.
You only pay for part of the main stable and we run everything for you nice and smooth like, [with our own enforcement and boy, do we know enforcement].
Deal?
Jema 54: Yeah that was confusing. I was referring to how the Indian chiefs were treated like Royalty at the State Circus (Olympics). Treated like the grand hosts and all.
They "own" it all, you know.
We are here at their sufferance.
Like that.
still wrinkles my teeth to call them "first nations" when all the oldest archeological sites are Clovis (ie European)
also check out Kennewick man.
Me No Dhimmi at March 5, 2010 11:00 PM
When Muslims are their masters will they still cry that they had their land stolen. How will they shakedown Islamists? Road blocks don't work on Barbarians. They just kill you. The Native Pagans left alive I mean.
How do you think Gandhi would have done for East Indian independence. If Germany had owned India?
JMO
Revnant Dream
[.....How do you think Gandhi would have done for East Indian independence. If Germany had owned India?]
About like Tanzania and Namibia.