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Reading those comments, the phrase "This is a recording. Repeat. This is a recording." comes to mind. Very disturbing, nonetheless.

Gee I am sure that Bonnie is just against Israels policies. I am sure she isn't antisemitic or anything.

Bonnie
March 21st 2010, 11:04am
All I need do is look at the names involved in pushing us into attacking Iraq and Afghanistan for the jews.

Let us take a brief look, shall we?

Dov Zaakheim, Henry Kissinger, Mel Sembler, David Wurmser, Edward Luttwak, Douglas Feith, Michael Mukasey, David Frum, Michael Chertoff, Richard Perle, Ken Adelman, Lewis Libby, Richard Hass, Robert Zoellick, James Schlesinger, Marc Grossman, Elliot Abrams, Ari Fleischer, and of course, Paul Wolfowitz.

Then we have the jews who have been busy swindling America, like Ben Bernanke of the Fed, Lloyd Blankfein of Goldman Sachs, and Maury Greenberg of AIG.

It goes on and on, yet we are not supposed to notice they are all jews.

"that beacon of Middle East tolerance.. "
I watched "The Stoning of Soraya M" which Pamela G had posted last night on her site... pure evil is my only description for islamic law.

http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atlas_shrugs/2010/03/saturday-night-cinema-the-stoning-of-soraya-m.html

(Is the Star's website down or something?) Don't tell anyone, but I was on it about 8:00 am this morning.

Bonnie is just your modern typical Liberal/Dipper.

I think that 'bonnie' is just a troll on that thread. To cherry pick names and declare that IF you are a Jew, THEN, you are 'behind the US support of Israel, is nonsense. There's a lot of debate in the Jewish community about these issues.

My own view is that, when dealing with Israel and Palestine, one has to reject universal descriptions (all Arabs are X, All Jews are Y)..something that Bonnie and others do.

Israel has to be analyzed, not in a religious definition, but as a political state. That means its actions, all its actions, are open to debate and criticism. So many people seem to 'knee-jerk' support Israel because they define it in its religious ideology and feel that they are thus showing they are supporting Jews and Judaism. But what about the political and economic policies of a nation? They aren't run by the religion! And, this ignores that Judaism is complex and not monolithic and many Israelis criticize their govt policies.

I critique Israel's political policies; this has zilch to do with its religious ideology, and it is a serious error to equate such criticism with 'anti-semitism'. No political state can be removed from debate and critique. Just as you cannot reject criticism of an individual's behaviour by saying - 'it's their religion; let them wear the burqa and niqab'.

Equally, to declare one's support for Israel because 'it's the only democracy' in the region is incorrect. To my knowledge Jordan and Lebanon and Iraq are democracies. Plus, since when does being a democracy remove a state from criticism?

Canada is a democracy and yet, is its deeply flawed Charter meant to be accepted and never criticized? Canada has those dreadful Human Rights Commissions? Should we say that because Canada is a democracy we should put up with them? What about the Dept of Indian Affairs, the Wheat Board, the Gun Registry? All of these, were developed in a democracy. Do we accept them?

Is Israel apartheid? No. If you are a citizen you have equal rights, but discrimination between citizens does exist and Israel is hardly much different than all other nations in this regard. The key problem is, as noted, the occupation and the settlements and the future of these lands and the people who are NOT citizens. That's a political decision.

It is equally irrational to condemn Israel for doing what it does, politically, 'because they are Jews', as it is irrational to support Israel no matter what, 'because they are Jews'.

It's the political and economic policies that ought to be discussed!

Wouldn't you love to have Bonnie teaching your kids!? It wouldn't surprise me that she just could be doing that.
Goldstein's article is right on. He is one of the few columnists worth reading these days. As far as Gore and Suzuki are concerned, in my opinion Goldstein has been much too kind to them. Note to Bonnie.... Intelligent people look at what people are doing before condemning them. Not just scanning the last names. How are your jack boots fitting, Bonnie....

If smitty wasn't a maggot, would Suzuki still love him?

ET:

"I critique Israel's political policies; this has zilch to do with its religious ideology, and it is a serious error to equate such criticism with 'anti-semitism'."

I don't question whether people are anti-semetic because they happen to critisize Israel. No country could possibly be perfect. Every body is due their fair share.

I do though when accusations are levelled without credible sourcing, and especially when the claim is repeated and defended even after failing to provide substantiation when challenged to do so.
That is precisely what you engaged in a week or two ago on another thread.

When a serious accusation against Israel, that if true would have left an easily found trail in newspapers around the world leaves not a trace to be found, a fair minded person would question whether any such thing had happened. Your response was to doggedly persist.

That you feel the need to be defending yourself in advance of an accusatory finger being pointed is instructive. Your credibility suffers from a completely self-inflicted wound.

Wow! looks like like the Starbucks revplutionaries are still putting a dip in the national bell curve.

I wonder what these trendoid Trotskyites will say when Obama bombs Iraq?

I wonder what these trendoid Trotskyites will say when Obama bombs Iraq?

I wonder what these trendoid Trotskyites will say when Obama bombs New Jersey? (There fixed it for you)

Considering the Red Star almost never has its comments open, not even for opinion columnists' columns, nowadays, would there be any reason to got to the Red Star site?

bob c- I'm not defending myself from any accusations.

As for the water and hydro cut-off in Gaza, and the border closure to produce, that's a fact and I provided evidence. All you have to do is google 'gaza greenhouses cutting off water 2005' and you'll find the data. I stand by that event. The situation continues with periodic water, hydro and border closures.

http://electronicintifada.net/v2/article9118.shtml

Your statement that 'everybody is due their fair share' is rhetorical and empty; in actual fact, you don't consider the actual policies of Israel and the actual behaviour of settlers with regard to the occupied territories.

Here's an interesting site dealing with the importance of water in the Middle East, and to Israel.

http://www.a-w-i-p.com/index.php/2010/02/21/israel-s-water-wars

Remember that Israel's economy isn't based on extraction of oil. The ME Oil economy, relying on the technological expertise of Western industrialism, leaves the Islamic peoples dependent on oil revenue redistribution, without a middle class private economy. As I've said before, I believe that the lack of a middle class is the reason for Islamic fascism, which has little to do with the I-P situation.

Israel was developed, right from the start, in a different economic mode than the existent ME sustenance horticultural economy and again, in a different mode than oil-based economy. It was based on western industrial technology in agriculture, which required irrigation in that biome, and on private enterprise developments in electronic technology, information technology etc. That is, it was based around a middle class industrialism.

The increase in population and the irrigation mode of agriculture requires a focus on water. This necessity is something rarely discussed in discussing the I-P situation. People end up talking only about 'essences', as if emotions were genetic, so you get the 'All arabs are X and hate Y, and vice versa'. This is useless because it ignores the question of 'why is this the case'?

One has to always, consider, the economy, the demographics, and the biome. The vital importance of water in this biome can't be sidelined.

Some are of the tribe of Judah, and some are not. The trick is to tell the difference. The Biblically illiterate can't.

The need to find boogey-men around any corner should be telling enough.
Israel Apartheid Week was never about legitimate criticism but- in my opinion- outright scapegoating and bigotry. If one was objective, one would see Israel is far more a bastion of human rights than any other state in the Middle East. To call it the apartheid state because the Palestinians- the sandbags of Islamofascism- don't like America isn't objectivity; it's fanaticism.

But then, that's harder than just saying Jew = good, Ishmael = bad, and most people can't be bothered. And probably couldn't stand the truth if they did know it. That's why most are blinded, if not, they would commit the unpardonable sin. It's tough love and gonna be one helluva lesson.

"electronicintifada.net" sure sounds like a reliable source.

I recall all the rending of garments etc by the usual suspects when the GAZA UNIVERSITY was destroyed.....
How-come one relatively small warhead on an air-surface rocket TOTALLY destroyed such a large structure.
Easy.....IDF intell indicated the basement was a clandestine rocket(kassim) factory. Deliberately put there because Hamas believed the IDF policy of restraint would not randomly target it. It was not random but a deliberate strike and it was the massive secondary detonation of the explosives in the building that destroyed it.
The IDF intel was totally valid.
Then those like ET whine about water being cut off but ignore the kassims.....or attribute them to a vague extremist minority. This when the proof is that the kassims are HAMAS policy. That it is deliberate HAMAS policy to launch kassims from occupied civilian residential sites.
The big embarrassment to the hand-wringers was the video of HAMAS using a UN supplied and UN marked ambulance to deploy fighters and munitions.

ET wrote
// It's the political and economic policies that ought to be discussed! //

But if you fail at the same time to mention Iran or Darfur ......??!!?
Good post.

In fact, it is the practitioners of Realpolitics that are making the recent criticisms. Biden, a strong supporter of Israel, had just come from a briefing by the military people in charge of the Middle Eastern theatre, a briefing which // “hit the White House like a bombshell.” There’s no doubt that this is what inspired Biden’s comments. //
The Foreign Policy article --

The Petraeus briefing: Biden’s embarrassment is not the whole story

sasquatch - you are focusing on the 'what' not the 'why'. That's a deadend strategy. You have to move into examining 'why' people are behaving the way they do (that's the 'what').

Some say that 'why' Jews and Muslims behave in such and such a manner is because of 'genetics'. So, you get anti-semites and anti-Muslims on both sides. I disagree with this.

Others say it's cultural; the one is 'smart', the other is 'stupid'. Again, I think this is nonsense.

Certainly, there are cultural mindsets that are ancient; you can read the halakhah and the hadiths on both sides for these. But, again, these rules of Judaism and Muslims are the 'what'. They don't explain why these two peoples developed such a perspective.

I think you have to go farther, and to me, it's about the economy, the demographics, and the biome or ecology. That explains why a people develop their beliefs and behaviours - both in the past. And now.

So, what I suggest is the examination of the economic modes among the various peoples in the Middle East, the pre-industrial and the industrial, the oil and the agriculture, the vital role that water plays in all of this, the demographics and population bases..

We in Canada we simply don't realize the role of a particular ecology in the nature of a social structure, what happens in a particular soil type, temperature range, and water supply.

I reject the analyses of nations based on 'identity politics', i.e., the 'essential identity' of a Jew, of a Muslim, of a Christian', and instead, am interested in 'why' these beliefs emerged, and the role that the ecology plays in a nation's political processes.

The reactionary left is the principal home of 21st century anti-semitism.

If you really want to see the inner ugliness of the Brownreds scroll through a Globe and Mail comment board attached to any story about Israel or anything even remotely connected with Jews.

The Fly @ 1:46, I presume you meant to say Iran, did you not?

If the problem is Israel, how come Egypt's building a wall?

Gee, it might have something to do with Israel's economic blockade. But I'm sure you know the real reason, having been there on a "tour".

Interestingly, Israel gave financial aid to Hamas in the past. The Israeli thinking being that Hamas would refuse any part in the peace process and Israel would continue to be the "only democracy in the ME" for the US to deal with.

I think you misunderstood, Hoss. Egypt is building a wall between themselves and their fellow muslims in Gaza - something I was aware of, incidentally, before my trip.

I didn't misunderstand in the slightest. If the Israelis have an economic embargo, where do you think imports and exports come and go? Couple that with US pressure on Egypt to stop smuggling...in fact giving aid to that effect.

All designed to increase tensions, increase violence. Wild animals, when cornered, will attack. Any fool knows that. And those fools know that.

If the problem is Israel, how come Egypt's building a wall?

Posted by: Kate

End quote:============

To match Hamas's illegal under ground smuggling tunnels, toile or damask is the question I ask?

So, what I suggest is the examination of the economic modes among the various peoples in the Middle East, the pre-industrial and the industrial, the oil and the agriculture, the vital role that water plays in all of this, the demographics and population bases..

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What I suggest is that the so-called 'Palestinians' just admit that they will never, ever agree to the oft-mentioned 'two state solution' because they will never, ever admit that Israel has a right to exist. Save us from all the posturing, the phony agreements and ceasefires and everything else that goes along with the "peace process". Spare us also from the tired old 'give up land for peace' ruse that has resulted in nothing but NEVER ENDING ROCKET ATTACKS right from the time you were given control of Gaza.

Do that, admit that you won't ever stop trying to kill Israelis until EVERY ONE OF THEM IS DEAD and we can finally put an end to this charade by packing you all up and deporting you to your real homeland: Jordan.

Seriously. There is no other way to end this.

(...short of genocide, of course. But we'll leave that kind of barbarity to the 'Palestinians' who espouse it. Which would seemingly be ALL OF THEM, since they teach it in kindergarten...)

Louise @ 3:51 PM :
"The Fly @ 1:46, I presume you meant to say Iran, did you not?"

Yes of course - massive typo.

The word has it that bunker buster bombs are moving to strategic USAF bases. And all the anti Iran rhetoric in the Obama media - do we really need a crystal ball?

Please remind your progressive-liberal friends that it has been Dems who have lead us to thr vast majority of our expensive military adventures (after promising to stay out) - it's their tribute to their MIC masters. It's the only way they know how to deal with economic down-turns.

Wilson - WW1
FDR - WW2
Truman - nuked Nippon and invaded Korea
LBJ - Vietnam
Clinton - Bosnia
Obama - WW3?? (US Israel vs Russia/China Iran)

See a pattern?

Sorry but we know the answer to you question and it is YES. I am not happy about this.

Fred from BC - you are right - put an end to the charade! Jordan is Palestine.

Hamas, PA, PLO, Fatah, etc. will never give up the "right of return" to Israel. They will never accept a "two state solution" that says descendants of refugees can ONLY return to the new state of Palestine in the westbank/gaza. They want the "right of return" to mean return to Israel. Why? because their goal is not the creation of a state, but the destruction of Israel.

Jordan is 79% of the British Mandate for Palestine. The majority of people living in Jordan are Arabs from the British Mandate for Palestine.

(I know ET will say this is meaningless)

One of my favourite pieces of evidence (that I have posted at SDA before) that before 1967 the only people the world knew as "Palestinians" were Jews is the 1960 Hollywood production of Exodus starring Paul Newman.

The female lead character asks Paul Newman at dinner where he comes from. Paul Newman answers, "I don't come from anywhere. I'm a sabra. A native-born Palestinian."

Other samples: movie_scripts/e/exodus-script-transcript-paul-newman.html
"Ben Ami is one of the Palestinians who run this camp." (On Cyprus.) "He's the Palestinian commander, that's who." (Referring to a Jewish commander in the same camp.)
"I want to see the Palestinian camp commander."
"This is the Palestinian commander, David Ben Ami."
"Would you order him to place all his Palestinian...administrative personnel at my disposal while loading?"
"Report at once to your nearest Palestinian guard point." (Referring to a Jewish guard point.)
"This chap Ben Canaan probably wasn't lying when he said he fought with us. Thousands of Palestinians did." (Jews from the Palestine Mandate fought for Britain in WWII. The Arabs did not.)

The Arabs in the movie are called "Arabs."

Kat @ 4:51 PM, EXACTLY!!!! The Egyptians have no sympathy for the Ghazans, who have proven themselves to be a bunch thieving pests.

Aren't the Egyptians RE-building their wall? I seem to remember a couple years ago the Gaza fence fell down (no doubt with a bit of help) and the "poor downtrodden Palestinians" were all off to Egypt to buy stuff.

Anyway, the wall is there so Egypt can continue to pretend all the munitions falling on Israeli towns around Gaza didn't come from Egypt.

Its funny how even though Gaza is walled up on two sides, they only ever seem to launch stuff at the Jews. One would think they'd be -more- p1ssed at their Muslim "brothers" for hanging them out to dry like that.

What about the Christian "Ghazans"? They "thieving pests" too?

ET;

Here's a link you might find interesting.

http://www.boston.com/news/world/middleeast/articles/2005/10/31/greenhouse_project_endangered_in_gaza/

I recommend the whole article but here are a couple of money quotes from it. "Hundreds of Palestinian workers have been hired to fix up the 3,200 greenhouses in Gaza that donors bought from departing settlers and gave to the Palestinian Authority." "Some already have been planted with crops of mint, tomatoes, and lettuce and are expected to yield harvests in November."

Imagine that. Palestinians, hard on the heels of the Israeli withdrawal, planting crops in the greenhouses that you claim had no water and expecting a harvest by November. Add that to the quotes I provided on a previous thread that can be found here,

http://www.smalldeadanimals.com/archives/013526.html#comments

from the Palestinian greenhouse manager in December 05 and April 06 also referring to the crops they were growing in them at those times, and your argument lies dead ET. Give it up. You're only going to make even more people think you're an anti-semite.

bob c
Your article goes on --

// But Israel still controls Gaza's borders, and it has yet to approve an agreement that would open up a reliable channel to ship goods out of the strip, despite continuing negotiations mediated by Wolfensohn's team. Two weeks ago, Wolfensohn criticized Israel in a letter to UN Secretary General Kofi Annan, saying it was ''almost acting as though there has been no withdrawal" with its policy of continuing to seal off Gaza and delaying talks. //

But this is the end of October. I don't normally link to WND site but this is what happened "hard on the heels of the Israeli withdrawl" [as you put it] in August --

// JERUSALEM – After months of intense negotiations recently culminating in a deal allowing for the transfer of Gaza's high-tech Jewish greenhouses to the Palestinians, several former Jewish residents who briefly returned to their farms told WND they were shocked to find most of their produce has died because Israel turned off the water in the area. //

Not that all the settlers were concerned about Palestinians --
// A former resident of Jewish Gaza's Ganei Tal farming community who asked his name be withheld said, "Most of the greenhouses in Ganei Tal are dried up. This better not effect our payment because it's not our fault Israel turned off the water." //

What about the Christian "Ghazans"? They "thieving pests" too?

What, both of them?

Fly:

Wasn't Vietnam Kennedy's deal?

Thanks, dizzy, for providing some more factual evidence for the reality; Israel did shut off water and hydro to the greenhouses and closed the border to produce. This is a recurring situation, and the water supply is precarious.

I suggest that others, if they are interested in the facts, to read the link I provided on the vital role of control of the water in the ME. This requirement is, I maintain, behind the actions of Israel with regard to the W. Bank and Gaza.

As for ex-liberal, I'm sorry, but I don't rely on a film from Hollywood as a data base. I prefer historical records. The name of Palestine has been around for centuries.

Its ancient oral term of 'plesheth' and 'philistine' referred to migratory people in the area - and most peoples in these early times were migratory or only half-settled (i.e., the men would take the small animals out for months at a time, leaving the women, elders and children in the camp).

The 5th c. Herodatus used the term 'Palestine' to refer to the geographic area. Hadrian in 135AD referred to the area as Palaestina. The British Mandate for Palestine, of 1920-48 referred also to the geographic area, and all peoples in the area, of any religion and ethnicity, were called Palestinian. Their 1922 stamp of the area is of Palestine. The area was divided into Palestine and Transjordan.

With the establishment of Israel at that time, the term Palestine came to refer not to the geographic area but to the non-Jewish people living in the area, primarily Arab and Muslim but also Christian.

Of course, it is invalid to argue that unless one has, as an ethnicity, a distinct name from the time of the pre-christian era, then, one does not exist as 'a people'. After all, with such a claim, that negates just about all modern nations and their populations, including America, Canada, Mexico and so on. The equation of an ethnicity, which is a tribal or kin population, with a civic national population, is invalid.

dizzy;

The first paragraph you quote relates to the difficulties the Palestinians had in terms of exporting the produce grown in the greenhouses. While that is certainly an issue worthy of discussion, the point is that no such discussion would be possible had Israel turned off the water. No water=no crops.

The second paragraph you quote refers to what "several former Jewish residents" saw with respect to their own farms. One cannot take the experiences of several people and conclude that the same conditions existed at ALL of the greenhouses. Looting could well have resulted in localized shut offs of water in some areas.

If you care to go back to this thread, http://www.smalldeadanimals.com/archives/013526.html#comments
and read my 1:18pm post on March 10th, you can see for yourself what the manager of the greenhouses who was appointed by the Palestinians after Israel withdrew had to say about the situation. Here's a quote;

"According to reports, the greenhouses were looted by gunmen following Israel's withdrawal. Computer equipment and, in some cases, entire greenhouses were stolen. The theft has put out of action about 70 acres of the roughly 1,000 acres left by the Jewish communities, according to Al-Masri.

"The looters took their time to dismantle the greenhouses and to uproot entire greenhouses and carry them away," Amid al-Masri previously told reporters.

Al-Masri yesterday said the Gaza greenhouses are fully functioning and are producing at full capacity. He also said most of the stolen greenhouse equipment has been recovered by the Palestinian Authority police."

So what have we got dizzy.

1 Israelis completing their withdrawal by Sept. 05.
2 Looting of the greenhouses that would have rendered any number of them inoperative
3 Palestinians having to go out and recover stolen equipment from the greenhouses in order to get up and running
4 Palestinians planting crops by the next month
5 The manager of the greenhouses talking of a second round of planting just 2 months later
6 More of the same from the same manager in Apr 06
7 And last but not least, Palestinians lined up at the border with truck loads of produce grown in the greenhouses, complaining about not being able to export them due to Israeli border policies.

I can only wonder what Monty Python would have done with this. Picture John Cleese and Eric Idle as Palestinians haranging Israeli border guards for turning off the water so they couldn't grow crops, then when they got no where with that argument, shifting gears and arguing to be allowed across the border so they could sell the produce they were holding in their arms.

ET at March 22, 2010 11:25 AM

"Israel did shut off water and hydro to the greenhouses and closed the border to produce."

My response to dizzy in the last paragraph of the March 22, 2010 12:12 PM post.

"I can only wonder what Monty Python would have done with this. Picture John Cleese and Eric Idle as Palestinians haranging Israeli border guards for turning off the water so they couldn't grow crops, then when they got no where with that argument, shifting gears and arguing to be allowed across the border so they could sell the produce they were holding in their arms."

ET, slap some cold water on your face or something. Do you not see how unhinged your argument is.

Yes, ol hoss, this Ghaza.

Damn good idea posted by Sandmonkey, too.

Yes, ol hoss. The Ghazans.

Sandmonkey sums it up quite nicely, too, IMHO.

Sorry for the double post. The first one supposedly timed out so I presumed it didn't post.

set you free @11:23 AM:

"Wasn't Vietnam Kennedy's deal?"

No, the Bay of Pigs (covert invasion of Cuba by CIA trained mercenary forces) was JFK's gig - that Bobby took the blame for. Jack didn't want to go near Viet Nam because he blew the budget on a feel-good space program. JFK was committed to keeping US military involvement in Viet Nam as minimal as possible - CIA advisors and some military trainers. After The JFK bottle neck was "removed" LBJ had the Navy provide a fraudulent false flag attack in the gulf of Tonkin as justification for full military committment without a congressional declaration of war.

The Dems invented the congressional undeclared war the Bush administrations just followed the Dem formula.

I expect a gulf of Tonkin styled staged incident between phantom Iranian patrol cruisers and a US ship to precede Barry getting his house resolution to bomb Tehran.

Phantom, maybe you should look it up instead of flippantly commenting out of ignorance.

Palestine was about 40% Christian before Israel came into being.

Well ol hoss, I wonder where those Christians went:

"The percentage of Christians in the Israeli population has steadily declined due to the immigration of Jews from all over the world. However, the absolute number of Christians has increased as Christians have entered Israel from Europe or areas in the Middle East. The Christian population of Israel has grown from 34,000 in 1949 to about 140,000 today." (emphasis mine)

Source.

Muslim fanatics (read: Hamas) persecute Christians and Jews. Jews, on the other hand, afford both groups all rights of citizenship in Israel.

Wanna try some other angle?

ol hoss, I gotta ask you this. Do you understand the difference between a percentage and a raw number?

Nah. I didn't think so.

Ladies and gentlemen, we have a flaming anti-Semite among us. Spitting would be appropriate.

Before 1967, British newspapers routinely referred to Jews as "Palestinians" much as they call Pakistanis "South Asians" today.

The Arab League paid $10 million to a U.S. publicity firm to answer the question "Why does the world support little Israel over us?"

After a year of research, the firm replied: "Because the world sees Israel as the plucky little underdog. Everyone loves the underdog. You, therefore, must rebrand and become the underdog."

In 1922, France had separated northern and southern Syria Palestina into two provinces, the original and actual "Nakba" (Disaster).

Arab land barons, gangsters and Nazi sympathizers kept trying to take turf, whether Arab or Jewish owned. Faisal, the Emir of Mecca, had welcomed the Jews to improve the area.

The Arab powers wanted to carve up the territory for themselves- thus the launch of several wars and numerous pogroms. The victims were Arab, Jewish, or Christian.

The League introduced an Egyptian occupier, the mad KGB queer Arafat. He had attempted to overthrow Jordan and lost; from Palestine he attacked Lebanon in 1975 (four years before Khomeini's Arabists took Iran). Lebanon was 85% Maronite Christian... now they are 85% Muslim.

Arafat was brought back with Tunisian overseers to Palestine and began the first intifada.
Hillary hugged his fake "wife" Suha.

It's all about the 1917 Muslim Brotherhood global "Project"- take territory for Islam.

1967 was the first time any Arab was called "Palestinian". Before that it would've gotten you a fist in your face.