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"we are done"

Like quran, you have to take it literally.

What Obama really means is we've only just begun.

I noticed this at another signing ceremony early in his Presidency. I suspect the same it true for the former but I can't say. Honestly, for me, it's quite embarrassing. It reminds me of the hundreds of Olympic torches and the silly three block increments the joggers ran with each torch.

That said, so be it. I will not begrudge someone trying to make a buck if its above the board.

Besides taking over student loans, has anyone checked to see what other gems are hidden in the 2,000+ "health care" bill? American legislation is notorious for earmarks that get attached to bills.

I believe Louisiana gets a big $$$ amount from the bill, and Nebraska was supposed to but it was removed.

If memory serves me correctly from back in the day when I had an interest in numerology, the number 22 symbolizes victorious completion of a plan or the end of battle.

Hm. Wondering if I can get a government grant to purchase one of those pens with the intention of installing it in a public urinal and calling it performance art? I plan to name it "Piss Heist".

Going away presents for 22 Democrats?

As he finished, and the Patient Protection and Affordable Coverage Act became law, Obama remarked “we are done.”

How prophetic. Stick a fork in 'em.

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another interesting statistic...

"Attorneys general from 13 states, including Florida, sued the federal government today,
claiming the landmark health care overhaul is unconstitutional just seven minutes
after President Barack Obama signed it into law."

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If by "we are done", Obama and his little band of toadies, then yes, they ARE done.

22 pens for 18 letters? I hope our glorious new medical care will be as efficient!

Doing less with more. 22 because he messed up four of the "X"s...

holy crap, that's idiocy. He truly believes that he is the second coming.
... that's all I've got for now.

I'm a little surprised he didn't wait until Good Friday to sign it so he could say 'it is finished.'

neo
[.....another interesting statistic...

"Attorneys general from 13 states, including Florida, sued the federal government today,
claiming the landmark health care overhaul is unconstitutional just seven minutes
after President Barack Obama signed it into law."]

Wasn't it something like that that started the last CIVIL WAR?????

> Wasn't it something like that
> that started the last CIVIL WAR?????

I sure hope so.

Prez Clintoon did the same thing with using a whole bunch of pens to sign stuff.

"we are done"
Yup, done like dinner!!

Check this out:
http://newsbusters.org/blogs/scott-whitlock/2010/03/23/abcs-robin-roberts-disappointed-tone-gop-response-health-care-calls-

You jerks rob me at gunpoint and then get offended that I'm not polite?

Really?

maybe he was applying for new credit cards with all those pens.

He'll need some way to pay the bills coming in.

In fairness, this is pretty typical US practice for major legislation. Both LBJ and Reagan did it.

Maybe a better grade of pen is in order.

And how many pens did George W. Bush use to sign the bill declaring war on Iraq? Oh yeah....NONE, because the war was illegal.

Significance of the Number 22

"The 22 is the most powerful of all numbers. It is often called the Master Builder. The 22 can turn the most ambitious of dreams into reality. It is potentially the most successful of all numbers. It has many of the inspirational insights of the 11, combined with the practicality and methodical nature of the 4. It is unlimited, yet disciplined. It sees the archetype, and brings it down to earth in some material form. It has big ideas, great plans, idealism, leadership, and enormous self-confidence...."
http://www.decoz.com/Masternumbers.htm

And...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/22_(number)

The number 22 is great for dowsing too.

Chaim:

You mean illegal because Congress agreed? Or illegal because it wasn't The Zero declaring war on the American people/economy?

Apparently, unlike other past presidents, BHO takes symbolism seriously and personally.

Using 22 pens to sign your name is ridiculous on every level - no matter who is doing the signing. In my opinion, it signifies a mental disturbance.

chaim - don't be stupid. A war is neither legal nor illegal in basic law. The Congress of the US declared war on Iraq; that's all that is needed to validate a military action.

You can't be simplistic enough to think that a sovereign nation cannot go to war unless and until the UN says it can - so, kindly explain your opinion.

The Supreme Court consideration of this bill is going to be interesting, but as others have pointed out (Ian in NS), and as Gibbs has noted, it may be a lost cause.

The US Constition, Article 1, Section 8, gives the federal govt the right to collect taxes, ..for the general welfare of the United States..'to regulate Commerce with foreign Nations and among the several States'.

So, if purchasing health insurance is an act of commerce, then, it falls under federal rule.

Admittedly, the article doesn't say a thing about health care, but if the focus on 'health care' is ignored and the bill is viewed in its commercial aspect, then, the Obama Gang wins.

But can it really be the situation that the link between the gathering of taxes and the use to which that money is spent, can be severed? Since health care, according to Amendment 10, is obviously the domain of the States, then how does the federal gathering of money and the state provision of health care - get together?

And of course, how does one justify a govt making an individual enter into a commercial action, purchasing health care insurance, even when they don't want to? That's a key question.

No, Sean, illegal because it was a war crime by any definition, whether Congress agreed to it or not.

As for health care, I'm beginning to think maybe Americans don't deserve it.

No-one: Is your pharmacy open 'til midnight? Still time to stock up on Zoloft...

Chaim - what is your problem other than being a liberal conspiracy theorist?

Reminder - the title of the post is "The actual signing of the bill took some time, as the president used a total of 22 pens to sign the 18 letters of his name."

My comments happen to be on topic unlike yours. Moreover, given BHO's love of symbolism, a link and a short factual summary on the number 22 is completely relative.

I agree with ET - Chaim don't be stupid. BTW Chaim - how many keyboards did you use to type your comments?

Marc in Calgary - Clever and amusing comment.

I believe I encountered Chaim at last night's Coulter presentation. He was the red-haired kid whose head almost exploded when she appeared on stage.

I can only presume that "Chaim" is refering to no operational WMD were found after Gulf II. This is a very safe assumption....Chaim is just reciting his creed.
Chaim and his ilk conveniently ignore the inconvenient truth that So-Damn-Insane and his cousin were tried and convicted of using WMB (lethal gas on the Kurds).
They also conveniently deny that AHm-a dinnerjacket is building a nuke to smite Isreal.
This while condemning the IDF for counter battery against Hamas kassim fire at Isreali civilians.
They howl about Palistinian civilian casualties....resulting from being used as human shields.
I sometimes wonder why rather than style their kabooms as martyrs---they don't blame the kaboom's death on Isreal---but then again they do.

Isn't Obama a democrat? It would have been much easier for him to sign with the first pen and DEEM the other pens to have signed it, too.

ET, you refer to inter-state commerce only. Since insurance coverage is limited to coverage pools WITHIN the states, there is no inter-state nature to that commerce. Thus... no federal mandate.

Not that such a flimsy irrelevant limitation as a mere constitution has stopped the democrats in the past. Or the Liberals here for that matter.

Income taxes are unconstitutional in Canada. If you tried to withhold your taxes, the constitution won't help you from the state. Power trumps law. Judge trumps law. The law, as you could say, is a mere guideline not to be taken seriously - unless you are a mere subject.

chaim

i No, Sean, illegal because it was a war crime by any definition,

not by my definition, as most who would define it as such have NO means of authority to enforce their definition, and that chaim is what defines legal/illegal. U see chaim words carry no authority, and that is what most lieberals deal in.

So, if purchasing health insurance is an act of commerce, then, it falls under federal rule.
~ET

In the future, if this bill stands, when the U.S. government is the only healthcare insurance available it won't be an act of commerce as the word "commerce" is understood today.

Government isn't supposed to be a commercial enterprise with tax payers as the underwriters.
It is communism pure and simple.

Chaim,

like most dimwitted lefties you mistake "international law" for your opinion. Having an opinion that something should be illegal doesn't make it so.

The Iraq war was NOT illegal although Clinton's war in Kosovo was. I would hazard a guess that you haven't a clue why in either case.

jason - yes, I'm aware that interstate refers to crossing state boundaries and that at the moment, insurance purchases are confined to intra-state. But, the Republicans have made it a point that they support inter-state purchases, and I'll bet that the Obama Gang will insert this clause very soon....That will open the situation up to that interstate commerce clause.

As for income taxes being unconstitutional in Canada, I'm not aware that our forbids this. Indeed, it says that all fiscal bills originate in the House and that the federal govt 91.3 can raise money by any system of taxation.

chaim - could you substantiate your new claim that the Iraq War was a 'war crime by any definition'. Please provide your definition.

As for Obama's multiple pens, this isn't a result of his tendency to provide people with multiple false tales of events - ' 40 million uninsured'; the stimulus has saved 20 million jobs'...It fits in with tradition, that the pens are saved as 'historic artifacts'. Remember, the One has touched them.

I think all this criticism of Obama using 22 pens to sign an 18-letter-long name misses its mark and just shows how hateful all you right-wingers really are. It was 22 pens for the 22 letters of his name. Those who counted forgot to add the "PBUH" at the end.

Lucky he didn't have to write the word "Syracuse".

ET,

If the insurance companies are dumb enough to go for it and take the federal bribes (and thus sell their soles - and shareholders) then they deserve to go under.

The inter-state commerce clause would not apply to any firm not doing business inter-state. So even if the feds can regulate some of them, the smart ones will remain out of reach (unless the dems pull more crap and get the SCOTUS to rubber stamp it.)

And yes, the US constitution allows taxes to originate from the house and be of any type. It allows only the senate to originate spending bills. Smart lot those founding fathers... Too bad none of them could have foreseen this scum running it now. And I don't exclude the GOP...

Whenever someone channels the ghosts of groundhogs, squirrels, gophers, and rabbits at our seances there is never a good word about the number 22.

Obamagabe is hard to figure out. He is not smart enough to be the Anti-Christ so he must be the front man or filling the anti-John the Baptist equivalent role for now. No doubt his backers have Hollywood scriptwriters hard at work to pull some sort of rabbit out of a hat prior to his next reelection campaign. Perhaps a phony right wing assassination attempt followed by third world style martial law up to ballot box stuffing day.

This is a right of surrender terms, with the pens and phony pomp.

THese Beltway Marxists are reall a demnted lot.

Obama makes the phrase: "Cheap & Sleazy" his Administrations motto.

OT but here's a poll on abortion that needs a little help:

http://www.cbc.ca/politics/insidepolitics/2010/03/question-of-the-day-74.html

If investigation ever reveals the birthers to be correct and he couldn't legitimately hold the office of president, what will his signature be worth? Will all the tax money be given back? Just a passing thought...