But, with hindsight, the salient point in the story remains the one I end on - that to his audience his remarks were utterly uncontentious.
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Gesundheit.
"... to his audience his remarks were utterly uncontentious."
And with that, some bright spark in the bowels of a vast Ottawa cube farm conceives a new branch of government. Expanding the HRCs from merely prosecuting hate speech, to hate -listening-.
Ssshhhhhh!! Dammit, Phantom, they could be reading this! Don't go giving them any ideas!
;-)
"If Mr. Ahenakew ever did get to "fry" six million Jews, the Supreme Court would rule the Nuremberg war crimes tribunal an infringement of his aboriginal rights and insist that he can only be brought before a First Nations "sentencing circle."
CLASSIC!
"Hate crimes" laws are there to nail recalcitrant old white guys like the late Doug Collins, not to hear grievances by one wing of the Rainbow Coalition against another.
Yes, now I understand.
As it relates to current events, the (now former) FSIN chief mentioned in the story, Lawrence Joseph, is attempting to become the federal NDP candidate in a northern Saskatchewan riding. As a lifelong professional in the grievance industry, he should fit right in with Layton and the gang. I wonder if the NDP have any formal or informal policies against candidates who defend people like Ahenakew.
"The sense of when a code has been breached is very important to a society's health... Mr. Ahenakew's didn't, and that speaks poorly for them, and their grubby third-rate leaders, just as it spoke poorly for Hedy Fry when she sat through Professor Sunera Thobani's post-9/11 rant. Even when The Saskatoon Star-Phoenix put it in the paper, the native bigshots still didn't get it. FSIN Vice-Chief Lawrence Joseph blames the media: "It's f*cking garbage. What was your intent to print that story?" he told the paper. "It should not have even been pursued."
As it relates to current events, the (now former) FSIN chief mentioned in the story, Lawrence Joseph, is attempting to become the federal NDP candidate in a northern Saskatchewan riding. As a lifelong professional in the grievance industry, he should fit right in with Layton and the gang. I wonder if a progressive party like the NDP have any formal or informal policies against candidates who defend people like Ahenakew.
"The sense of when a code has been breached is very important to a society's health... Mr. Ahenakew's didn't, and that speaks poorly for them, and their grubby third-rate leaders, just as it spoke poorly for Hedy Fry when she sat through Professor Sunera Thobani's post-9/11 rant. Even when The Saskatoon Star-Phoenix put it in the paper, the native bigshots still didn't get it. FSIN Vice-Chief Lawrence Joseph blames the media: "It's f*****g garbage. What was your intent to print that story?" he told the paper. "It should not have even been pursued."
It must be embarrassing when this bozo is your chief, a man supposedly elevated above his peers.
But then again, we have Jean Chretien. I suppose there is a cultural cross-over effect.
So a Jew hating Indian can spew his crap,while living on the dole provided by the majority of white mens taxes,and it's OK?Ummmmm.Only in Canada.(or paliland)Pity.And we think the Euroweenies are f&^ked?
In a previous life, at about the same time I was a raging young socialist, I was very much into First Nations people and their "struggle". He became the chief of the FSI, (soon to become FSIN). He reminded me then and still does of a big union boss thug. Everything he said was peppered with "God damned whiteman". When I heard him say what he said about the Jews all those years later, I just shrugged my shoulders. Ya well, what else is new. The modern Indian movement was largely inspired by this man, and at the very least, by his big loud-mouth goonish approach to getting what he wanted and proving he was better than the God damned whiteman. Most of the leaders of the FSIN and the AFN have been birds of a feather. Maybe, with him gone, his confrontational legacy will go with him.
"Maybe, with him gone, his confrontational legacy will go with him."
Not likely. But I'm actually kind of glad that every now and then the odd bigot surfaces in some group or other that continually plays the discrimination/restitution ticket.
Only some people can be bigots I suppose.
I wondered what prompted this post, so I did a little Web searching, and learned that Ahenakew has has left the tipi.
One has to wonder at where he learned his anti-Semitism, eh?
Because .... Identity Politics ....is a thugs game!
At least the natives had the good sense to finally oust Lawrence Joseph. Perhaps they came to the realization that, with Joseph at the helm, things weren't going to get better simply because he didn't want any improvement.
The man was notorious for playing the race card whenever things weren't to his satisfaction. Many a good debate was scuttled when Joseph would trump in with the race card. In fact, he was so fond of using it that it became redundant.
It would be to no one's surprise if Joseph popped up again with the NDP. It would be a match made in Heaven.
"to his audience his remarks were utterly uncontentious."
Of course. Natives see themselves as the foremost "victim" group on earth. Whenever challenged that others from far worse backgrounds, like the Vietnamese boat people, have succeeded via hard work, they simply fall back on the "racism" card.
Steyn mentions that Doug Collins was openly attacked, mainly for an essay suggesting what Canadian,s really thought about massive immigration.
It should be pointed out too, that at his death, the West Coast media were cruel in their statements of the man's life and work, and only Trevor Lautens,then a writer for the North Shore News made note of the mean-spirited Vancouver dailies. But then, Trevor was always outspoken on the truth, and is greatly missed himself for his forthrightness and willingness to speak out.
"Only some people can be bigots I suppose."
Yes. Silly me. I forgot. That's what they teach us in Sociology/Native Studies 101.
Joseph's most vile moment was when he was right in there like a dirty shirt exploiting the freezing death of those two little girls from Yellow Quill and making excuses for the girls' father. I was disgusting. It was a Carte Blanche for the drunkeness and irresponsible behavior to continue, which is exactly what the problem is. The grievance industry for the "foremost victim group on earth" needs the dysfunction to continue and does everything possible to see to it that the rank and file First Nation person never has to take responsibility for his or her own decisions.
Where did Ahenakew learn his anti-Semitism? Most likely from the Germans. He was in the armed forces and did some time stationed in Germany in the 1950s. He more or less confirms that here.
Oh, and as far as Joseph is concerned, if he runs as an NDP candidate, that should bode well for the Sask Party. It was the NDP that gave the FSIN a platform and nurtured it's corruption by practicing political correctness all those years. I don't think there are many people in Saskatchewan who want that kind of crap back again.
Did some research on the story oft told to our school children. The story goes that smallpox was used to mass murder natives via gift blankets taken from infected people. The only time this ever occurred was in 1763. The town of what is now Pittsburgh was surrounded by warring natives in the dead of winter. In order to sue for peace, some blankets from dead smallpox infected people inside the fort were given to said natives. The siege was thwarted when the smallpox infected the natives and they retired. It is assumed by historians that the townspeople knew what they were doing. Or did they? Or is it possible that the pox was so prolific back then that it could be caught from just being in contact with a blanket gift-er? Or better still; how did the blanket gift-er transfer the gift and not contact the pox himself?
Pasteur's discoveries on bacteria were made in the 1860's to 70's.
And, no, Custer definitely did not do this.
That is almost certainly BS Gunney99, I have always doubted the veracity of it. What did the do, slather on a jar of small-pox gems with a butter knife? It just doesn't add up and there is no proof whatsoever that it happened that way, certainly not on purpose. sorry, I'm from Kansas.
There is a good case to be made that it happened with the intent on spreading the disease, but since there was an epidemic raging in any case, it's impossible to show the blankets were the vectors of the disease to the Indians. Read Pox Americana by Elizabeth Fenn. Germ warfare was a common practice back then as was chemical warfare. I presume you've all no doubt heard about poison tipped arrows used by Indians and others.
"The story goes that smallpox was used to mass murder natives via gift blankets taken from infected people. The only time this ever occurred was in 1763. The town of what is now Pittsburgh was surrounded by warring natives..."
Yup, another one of those stories that is trundled out from time to time that doesn't withstand the scrutiny of history or our knowledge of how pandemics spread. Smallpox first appeared in the mid 1630s in Upper and Lower Canada. It spread rapidly among the native populations and within a generation had ravaged virtually every tribe east of the Mississippi. So any tribe in and around Pittsburgh would have been exposed to the disease at least 100 - 125 years before 1763.
Another point, the "townsfolk" had nothing to do with it. It was the British General Jeffrey Amherst that allegedly authorized the distribution of the blankets. The New England colonists were just as likely to be susceptible to the disease as were the Indians, since it was not present in America, but was endemic in Europe. Hence, a British general and his British troops were likely immune, having had the disease and survived, but the locals, both White and Indian, were likely not. Again, read Pox Americana.
People did not need to understand the precise mechanism, ie. have knowledge of the existence of the little beasties we call germs, in order for them to understand that using a blanket, or something else, could spread the disease. All they needed was the knowledge that it worked, and as I said previously, it was a commonly used strategy in warfare way back then.
Another point that we never, ever hear about is the numerous documented attempts by the evil Whiteman to inoculate Indians against the disease, once effective vaccines became generally available. Instead, all we hear, over and over again, is the instance during the War of 1763.
Another point, the "townsfolk" had nothing to do with it. It was the British General Jeffrey Amherst that allegedly authorized the distribution of the blankets. The New England colonists were just as likely to be susceptible to the disease as were the Indians, since it was not present in America, but was endemic in Europe. Hence, a British general and his British troops were likely immune, having had the disease and survived, but the locals, both White and Indian, were likely not. Again, read Pox Americana.
People did not need to understand the precise mechanism, ie. have knowledge of the existence of the little beasties we call germs, in order for them to understand that using a blanket, or something else, could spread the disease. All they needed was the knowledge that it worked, and as I said previously, it was a commonly used strategy in warfare way back then.
Another point that we never, ever hear about is the numerous documented attempts by the evil Whiteman to inoculate Indians against the disease, once effective vaccines became generally available. Instead, all we hear, over and over again, is the instance during the War of 1763.
As both Steyn and Levant have stated over and over, lowbrows like Akinehew are distinguished only by their mediocrity. The less attention paid stupid people the better.
Ahenakew would be just another embittered nobody, blaming his failings on others by babbling incoherently to the washroom walls in some institution.
However it was the fawning affirmative action clique of the Ottawa Multicult who elevated this mediocrity from its vulgar mumbling at washroom walls to National rock star status with a national podium - then whipped up a national scandal when the mumbling mediocrity acted mediocre.
As both Steyn and Levant have stated over and over, lowbrows like Akinehew are distinguished only by their mediocrity. The less attention paid stupid people the better.
Ahenakew would be just another embittered nobody, blaming his failings on others by babbling incoherently to the washroom walls in some institution.
However it was the fawning affirmative action clique of the Ottawa Multicult who elevated this mediocrity from its vulgar mumbling at washroom walls to National rock star status with a national podium - then whipped up a national scandal when the mumbling mediocrity acted mediocre.
I heard somewhere that Bush handed out those blankets...
Thanks Louise for the historical references. But I think there is much ASS-U-Me-ing done by historians in the reading of old musings left in dusty piles of ancient papers. Again as the recipient of one of Amherst's said letter, Col. Henry Bouquet said: "I will try to inoculate them.....and try not to get the disease myself." Smallpox raged among settlers and natives alike (and Europeans) for hundreds of years. I hardly think anyone had to "give" it to anyone. Surrounding a fort in the dead of winter with poor food in weakened condition and without good shelter; it's hard to imagine the natives not becoming infested with disease. How did the settlers get it? Did the natives carry the disease themselves? They did as much as the settlers did or the British army for that matter.
A lot of history is colored to fit the prejudices of the writer.
Check this one out: America Betrayed Bush..Bin Laden..9/11..etc..BS http://universitypress.info/USABiologicalTerror.pdf******** opens with Amherst and his germ warfare musings.
"opens with Amherst and his germ warfare musings."
I've lost count of the number of times I've hear some hurt little leftie groupie refer to that episode a) as either an American or a Canadian sin, when in fact, if it was a sin at all, it should be the British that accept the punishment for it and 2) evidence that germ warfare was practiced all over the continent all throughout the past 518 years.
That and scalping was introduced by the Europeans.
louise.
I heard the spaniards also taught the aztecs to cut out hearts
revisionist history on a typical brutal group of people.
unless you are a talking about Buddists or Jains you are likely to find all cultures are equally brutal.
Gunney99, if you want another great book about the impact of epidemics on the course of history see if you can find a copy of Plagues and Peoples but William H. McNeill