Ethnic cleansing at Kahnawake;
The eviction letter tells non-natives they have 10 days to leave the reserve: "We trust that you understand the seriousness of this letter and that you will govern yourselves accordingly." [...]
In 1981, the community announced a moratorium on mixed marriages, which meant that non-natives who married Mohawks after that year would no longer have the right to live on the reserve. Any non-native who had married a Mohawk before the moratorium is still permitted to live on the reserve.
In the 1980s, some Mohawks contested the policy before the human rights tribunal, but lost. The courts have ruled that Mohawks can make any membership policy they deem necessary for their survival as a people.
Also - No mixing of the races!
But what if the non-native spouse is a Negro? The HRC heads would still be spinning.
It is only racist if white people do it.
I thought you would have learned that by now Kate.
A just society was PET's pet. We are all "benefiting" from his 'intended' consequences.
Try and tell a native he's not allowed to live in a "WASP" town because he's not white enough....see how long it takes for CHRC to jump on you......
I would not have a heart to tell a Mohawk to move out of community, because I believe they all should leave the reserves. We should be bigger than the warrior society thugs.
The courts have ruled that Mohawks can make any membership policy they deem necessary for their survival as a people.
Two questions:
In what way are the Mohawks in danger of not surviving as a people?
How does removing white people from the reserve save the Mohawks from this imminent doom?
Lump 'em in with the Separtists and cut Quebec loose...Western Separation looks better every day....I tell you, its MADNESS out there...
Don't get knots in your toga.
HRC rulings?
HAR HAR HAR!!!
Canada now supports racism apartheid too! It's part of indian culture, dontchya know...
I think the Americans did the right thing by the indians back in the 1800's. It is time to end the sham of 'native culture'.
And we pay for this crap through our taxes? So as a white man,I can't marry a native and live where we want to? Something is seriously f&*ked up in this country.I wonder how much it would cost to ask Imadinnerjacket to nuke Tarrna,Ottawa,and Vancouver?
All they're trying to do is maintain a little racial purity and Lebensraum. Since they're not caucasian, Who could possibly object?
"The courts have ruled that Mohawks can make any membership policy they deem necessary for their survival as a people."
I wonder if the courts would allow that ruling if you substituted Judeo-Christian civilization for Mohawk and tried deporting Muslims?
Simple. 1) Recognize their autonomy as a nation. 2) Require every "genuine" Mohawk to carry a passport issued by their government and 3) a visa to enter Canada.
Of course, all services, such as health care and education currently funded by Canadian tax dollars, on reserve or off, will no longer be available without charge.
Then we dismantle the HRCs.
Then we dismantle the HRCs...
Isn't it hard to imagine there are people who still honestly believe that HRC rulings like this actually promote "tolerance" and "acceptance" and all that good stuff?
I'd have to say a lot of these rulings actually promote the opposite.
I'm definitely no expert, but I believe that First Nations reserves are part of, and separate from Canada. Although I agree with LC, only prohibition against Mohawk women having sex with whitey would address the root cause. I think what the Mohawks are doing isn't far from what many at SDA advocate with respect to immigration. If you can accept that it is their choice who can live in their jurisdiction, then you cannot argue against one and for the other. Ideally, Mohawks and Canadians would both have the right to decide who takes residence on their land. That said, I do understand and feel the frustration in having to pay for it all.
RE: western separation
I believe that First Nations will be a integral and productive part/partner in western separation and in western Canada. The opportunity to negotiate new terms to benefit westerners of all shades will be unprecedented. Nobody is harmed more by Confederation that Western Canadian First Nations. They are used as a political pawn by anyone and everyone in central Canada who has a coin to gain.
Western separation isn't about white vs. red, or right vs. left. Western separation is for the benefit of all western Canadians regardless of your biological or political stripes. JMO
It points up the whole farce that is the liberal morass of identity politics, the human rights industry, activist judges, and special treatment based on genetics. It all starts when one believes one can have just a little bit of racism.
Racism and human right's abused, but it's perfectly legal for the chicken hawks to partake of it. Once again only in Canada would a person be granted supremacy status if their skin is the correct color of beige.
From our Charter:
25. The guarantee in this Charter of certain rights and freedoms shall not be construed so as to abrogate or derogate from any aboriginal, treaty or other rights or freedoms that pertain to the aboriginal peoples of Canada including
(a) any rights or freedoms that have been recognized by the Royal Proclamation of October 7, 1763; and
(b) any rights or freedoms that now exist by way of land claims agreements or may be so acquired.(94)
from: http://laws.justice.gc.ca/en/charter/
What does it mean? Does the Charter exist anymore? If section 2 still exists why are the HRCs still patrolling the internet? Am I in the wrong country?
I guess that kills my argument Zeppo. Thanks for the clarification.
Great minds.. etc., etc..
I blogged on the same topic today.. as I posted, "No Mixing of the Races".
I'm sure Dr. Martin Luther King Jr., would be gratified to know that 43 years after his death, the Kahnawake band has made it clear that we SHOULD be making decisions based upon nothing but racial considerations.
The crime is that aboriginal people have enough difficulty overcoming racial discrimination in the broader society and then these clowns, effectively decree.. "what's the problem with racial discrimination".
File under "Suck and Blow"
The thing about the Royal Proclamation which seems to be ignored ad nauseam is that King George III, who issued the proclamation, referred to all Indian territory as parts of "our" (meaning the Royal we) dominion. In other words, all of the land delineated by the proclamation belonged to him, and he declared, via the proclamation that only he had the right to determine who could use it and that only by negotiations with the crown (via treaties), could the Indian's rights to those territories be extinguished. The rights reserved for Indians in the proclamation were for "hunting".
Full sovereignty (ie. national ownership of the land so occupied), was not recognized as belonging to the Indians. The final clause of the portion of the Proclamation reads as follows:
"And we do further expressly conjoin and require all Officers whatever, as well Military as those Employed in the Management and Direction of Indian Affairs, within the Territories reserved as aforesaid for the use of the said Indians, to seize and apprehend all Persons whatever, who standing charged with Treason, Misprisions of Treason, Murders, or other Felonies or Misdemeanors, shall fly from Justice and take Refuge in the said Territory, and to send them under a proper guard to the Colony where the Crime was committed, of which they stand accused, in order to take their Trial for the same."
In other words, British law and law enforcement agencies had sufficient jurisdiction within Indian territory to sweep in and apprehend persons who had violated the law.
Moreover, the lands so covered by the British crown's proclamation were delineated by reference to specific areas defined by reference to the borders of certain colonies and geographic features, which could, from time to time be changed by the British crown.
That's hardly recognition of full Indian sovereignty. Not saying it was fair and just, but those are the facts. After all, this was the colonial era.
It wasn't until 1978 in a ruling by the Supreme Court that a different spin was put on the proclamation and that ruling spawned the modern day multi-million dollar Indian Industry. Legions of lawyers have become very wealthy in the interim.
Here's a corker for you.
What if the Mohawks decide that fags and dykes aren't part of the aboriginal culture or way of life?
I can see it now.
A polite letter stating they have 10 days to leave the rez.
After that if any fag or dyke refuses to leave then their "names will be published."
FYI. The terms "fag" and "dyke" were used for illustrative purposes...so piss off.
DaWG
A resident of America's Hat.©
"The final clause of the portion of the Proclamation reads as follows" should read "The final clause of the portion of the Proclamation that pertains to Indians reads as follows". The proclamation dealt with much more than just Indian territory. It also had a lot to do with jurisdiction in the newly acquired territories formerly belonging to France which were ceded in the treaty that ended the Seven Years War, also known as the French and Indian War. The whole thing was meant to pacify the Indians, especially those who had fought along side the French.
Rob H @ 4:05 pm, ya gotta wonder what the HR Commisions would have said about the Chinese head tax or the refusal to allow boat loads of Sikhs or Jewish refugees to land in Canada had they existed then. Weren't they created to put an end to such race-based discrimination? The mind boggles.
Do we need a better demonstration of the racial apartheid mentality of reserve culture?
Trying to placate such seething resentments by rewarding it with special concessions and cash payments is like trying to put out a fire with gasoline. I won't have my tax money funding apartheid and racial dicrimination.
I'm not surprised at all. Here in Alberta,to adopt a native child you must get permission from their band. That rarely happens. The powers that be would rather keep a child in a foster home,or in a dubious residence on a reserve,than let a non-native couple raise the child. This law was passed because children raised off-reserve by 'whitey' were visiting the reserves and causing distress for themselves and their friends with tales of the outside world.
surely there are some empty houses in Caledonia that these whiteys could live in.
I'm not sure that this request is related to ethnicity (and please, indigeneous are not a distinct 'race') and any notion of 'ethnic purity'.
I suspect it's related to the monstrous Indian Act and the finances that affect income from the government coming in for the reserve. I suspect that the number of registered natives vs non-natives affects the income.
Because you are not allowed private business enterprises on a reserve or the ownership of private property (everything is owned by the Crown) then the only income possible on a reserve is from the blackmarket and the govt.
I'm speculating, but really, I don't think this is about ethnic purity but about fiscal income.
Dumbass White Guy at February 3, 2010 4:41 PM
Too bad for you that homosexuality has historically been an accepted part of Indian life.
these clowns, effectively decree.. "what's the problem with racial discrimination".
~Rob H.
Discrimination is OK when it's always settled in your favour.
The band leaders at Kahnawake don't mind being in a ghetto if they rule the ghetto and are the keepers/distributors the treaty money the band gets.
They don't care about the people outside the ghetto or who leave the ghetto.
The are Big Fish in their own little pond, they don't want people with outside ties spying on them or costing them treaty or welfare money.
(until a tornado/earthquake/natural disaster strikes)
Dear Sir or Madame,
I will move on the condition that my tax dollars no longer prop up your mini banana republic and all its racist thuggery trappings.
Sincerely,
Canada
I guess the Mohawks are okay with Canada evicting all natives living off the reserve, as in forcing them back onto reserves?
ET,
This link may help. This seems to be a combination of the always problematic Indian Act and discrimination. The Indian act has a two generation cut-off rule. The Kahnawake reserve has taken a militant stance on racial purity enforcement.
http://www2.parl.gc.ca/Content/LOP/ResearchPublications/bp410-e.htm#54
In one community, Kahnawake, efforts to preserve cultural integrity over the past three decades have proved controversial. In 1981, the band adopted a membership code intended to preserve Mohawk culture and language and to discourage Mohawks from marrying non-Indians. The code, which called for a moratorium on mixed marriages and a blood quantum requirement for membership, has produced divisions in the community between those who see it as a means to prevent assimilation, and those who view it as a form of discrimination. It has led to several well-publicized disputes. In the spring of 1995, the band council moved to prevent children with less than 50% Mohawk blood from attending band schools.(51) Other conflicts have arisen over reserve residency and access to reserve employment and services.(52) In 1996, the band began community consultations on its code, in an attempt to draft a revised membership code for ratification by the community.(53) After an extensive consultation process undertaken from 1996 to 1999, the Mohawk Council of Kahnawake released the final draft of the proposed membership law in February 2003.(54)
OT
IMO the truly interesting battle is between Treaty Indians and Métis(plz forgive if I have the terms incorrect). Treaty Indians have been trying desperately and successfully to deny Métis of entitlements that Treaty Indians receive. The motive for this is clearly the concern for who gets what share of the ever growing somewhat finite(oxymoron?) entitlements pie. It is a shame that Treaty Indians are complicit in trying to rob Métis of their culture and history to protect the bottom line. My mother-in-law is Treaty, so my kids are being screwed to some extent. My kids will do fine without hand-outs, but I feel they are still entitled to their history and culture regardless of what these AHoles and the Government say.
I'll always remember what my brother-in-law (50 yrs old) said at Christmas one year "I've finally got my treaty card, I guess I'm finally a real Indian".
Simple - no Mowhawks outside Khanawake. No electricity. No money. No rifles. No ammunition.
Although I personally despise the Native American Indian for any number of reasons, I congruently admire him in a number of ways too. For instance,
1. When presented with overbearing monarchial undemocratic and Orwellian government regulations, and the mechanisms of a Canadian police state, they instantly retaliate with an armed response. I respect and admire that.
2. They will not stand political correctness and will perpetuate the future of their people by whatever means they see fit. Real true blue resolve and rugged individualism. I like that too.
Oz at February 3, 2010 5:08 PM
"Too bad for you that homosexuality has historically been an accepted part of Indian life."
Two parts to my response.
Are you referring to the "two-spirited" people thing? More of a 20th century construct than actual "native" culture. Hell, most of "gay" culture is a 20th century construct. Men who like men have been around for millenia. They were just men who dug men. There was no "culture" there. Although, I suppose, one could make the case that all culture is a construct and...Oh, hell, I think I just flashed back to some stupid college courses with a lot of unattractive women.
Second part of my response? The terms "fag" and "dyke" were meant to reflect a stereotypical hostile attitude towards gays and lesbians and does not reflect my own attitudes. Merely representing a certain stereotype that you seem to have applied to me. If I misread your statement then, you know, I'll piss off, otherwise, piss off. :)
That is all.
DaWG
A resident of America's Hat.©
It will be interesting if the Islamics take over.
They have no treaties with Natives.
We all know what they think of Kaffur. Pagan kaffur at that.
I suspect they will do to the natives what they have done to Christians & Jews. Die or convert. By the way your land is now ours. If you don't like it. Well, when have we ever seen jihadists shy about mass murder?
The natives better get their heads straight in who they have loyalty, to or they will loose it all.
"Mohawks can make any membership policy they deem necessary for their survival as a people."
Yas. As compared to, say... Scotsmen for example, who are not allowed to even suggest they ARE a race or a "people" due to HRC regulations. Whose survival as a people is not at risk because they don't as a rule allow recreation (and recreational substances) to become the be-all and end-all of life.
Or is that racist?
scrap the whole FN industry, and turn them into Canadians
being a mutt myself, I can say that "mixed" hasn't hurt me in any way, and the small amount of racism I'v experience in my youth is just a part of life, living, and the human experience as I travell through life
RD
I've been saying for sometime now that “assimilation will be easy for me”. Not so much for many demographics that vote left. I sometimes wonder why someone of my description even cares. For example, we've been told that if we(the west) don't commit to binding CO2 reductions then we can't expect the third world to act at all. Really? Aren't "they" the ones who'll be hurt by the pending climate disaster? Apparently they're not too concerned, and if they can't be bothered to help themselves, I'd prefer to spend my money on a $5 violin from Wal Mart to assist me in expressing my sympathy.
Okay then, let the Muzzies come and let the oceans rise, why should I care?
Fair enough, non-Mohawks should exercise their democratic right to free market enterprise and not do business with Mohawk Supremacists. Doing business with racist bigots is not okay, boycotte them. If rule of law were applicable to the Mohawks then all those shipments of alleged illegal booze and smokes and guns would cease and be lawfully seized and they'd have to purchase their products at fair market value. They must be costing legit business millions in lost revenue?
Indians discriminate against frogs?
Touche'
What I meant, DaWG, was that because homosexuality has historically been an accepted part of Indian life your scenario @ 4:41 PM is moot.
It wouldn't happen.
Pose another scenario that could happen.
This is not so much about keeping the 'race' pure,as it is about teaching those 'uppity' women the consequences of sleeping with the enemy. It has been going on for years and years in every tribe in the country. Of course,those that disagree will be able to name a few exceptions.I won't hold my breath.
Some people are just more "equal" than others.
In the story it stated that those who didn't comply would have their names "published locally". Wasn't it the tyrant Sulla who had his "proscriptions" posted throughout Rome, those many years ago?
Some people are just more "equal" than others.
wallyj, the Mohawk Council would probably evict any non-Mohawk male or female of less than 50% Mohawk blood regardless of them being an Indian of another band or not too.
I think it's about cutting the band off from outsiders and ghettoizing them.
The end result is likely to be the destruction of their reservation from the inside.
I'm interested on how the CBC reported this or have they decided it wasn't "important" enough???
Canada screws up again! Meanwhile....
FRANCE,[can you believe this?], actually protects the rights and freedoms of French Women.
French courts barred a noxious Muslim from joining his wife in France because he forced her to remain concealed in a burqua.
His extremism extended to never shaking hands with any woman.
The gutsy official judged no French woman should ever be deprived of her identity and freedom under extremist suppression.