Via WUWT (where there's lots more);
In 2007, the Arctic lost a massive amount of thick, multiyear sea ice, contributing to that year’s record-low extent of Arctic sea ice. A new NASA-led study has found that the record loss that year was due in part to the absence of “ice arches,” naturally-forming, curved ice structures that span the openings between two land points. These arches block sea ice from being pushed by winds or currents through narrow passages and out of the Arctic basin.
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“Until recently, we didn’t think the small straits were important for ice loss,” Kwok said. The findings were published this month in Geophysical Research Letters.
Meanwhile, from our busy When It's Hot It's Climate, When It's Cold It's Weather Dep't, Phil Jones channels David Suzuki... "But there’s also a lot of other evidence showing that the world’s warming, by just looking outside ..."
So Greenpeace et al have their bubble headed kiddies all over the streets in Vancouver pitching their cause to the Olympic visitors . . . walking down Granville St. I made a suitably snide remark about Global Warming stupidity and the righteous zealot holding his binder open to the the polar bear on the ice flow picture shot back . .
Don't you believe in Global Warming?
"I'm not a religious person" was my response and the little pinhead had a very confused look on his face as the response sort of registered.
I think he was quite deflated. I hope I made his day.
Related....
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Northwest_Passage
Wiki .... blocks corrections to warmist propaganda on Northwest Passage.
West end of Northwest Passage (McClure Strait) blocked as at Sept 2009.
South of Banks and Victoria Islands, the Amundsen Gulf through to the Dease Strait, past Cambridge Bay to Victoria Strait were open. Normal for the this area.
http://ice-glaces.ec.gc.ca/Ice_Can/Arctic/Extents/qush-NHe-a-2009253_ENG.jpg
The satellite composite that the Glo-Bull Warmers don't want you to see.
'Outside' it's frickin' cold here in San Diego. Bummer.
Yeah, but Vancouver is all that matters to the AGW crowd.
Since it's warmer than usual, the science is settled.
I was in Vancouver all yesterday and didn't see a single Greenpeace activist. Saw the pro cannabis demo near the Olympic flame and a couple of First Nations protests, but no greenies. You guys must have hurt their feelings.
So 2007 was a unique year in that arches, which block ice flow through Nares Strait, didn't form. And "They found that in 2007, Nares Strait drained the Arctic Ocean of 88,060 square kilometers"
That would be about 10% of the 900,000 km2 loss that september 2007 showed from the previous September minimum [not the previous year].
So wattsupwithdat ?
“We don’t completely understand the conditions conducive to the formation of these arches,” Kwok said. “We do know that they are temperature-dependent because they only form in winter. So there’s concern that if climate warms, the arches could stop forming.”
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The ice lost through Nares Strait was some of the thickest and oldest in the Arctic Ocean.
“If indeed these arches are less likely to form in the future, we have to account for the annual ice loss through this narrow passage. Potentially, this could lead to an even more rapid decline in the summer ice extent of the Arctic Ocean,” Kwok said.
I feel better already.
It is said that pride goes before the fall. I think some adherents to this enviro-cult would rather fall than surrender their pride. With all these contradictions popping up, one would think at some point they scratched their heads and asked: "What's going on?"
I guess not.
The scientists and politicians and their camp followers in the msm all lied to taxpayers. They are Liars - nothing they say or preach has any credibility; once trust is lost, it's all over for the 'science'/cult. I have already bought my beer and popcorn and smokes for the lawsuits, I intend to enjoy the next phase with the same relish as I did the initial shakedown by Kate, Fox News, the Whistle-blower and fellow bloggers, posters and commentators.
Cheering out loud for the good guys!
Obiviously these guys aren't from northern Newfoundland. If they were they would know that narrows or chokepoints of land can cause ice floes to stick around much longer than expected especially if the wind is right.
Has anyone asked the Inuk who live there about this? Their memory goes back a lot farther than our records.
Seems like this "study" regarding the quick movement of immense volumes of material through narrow choke points should be sent to the TTC to help with their transit service update improvement policies. Under their present chairman, "Julius Caesar" Gambolonly and those past, the principles involved seem poorly understood.
Al Gore's AGW (AGW): TOTUS blogs with Moi and Jeet. It's a tripartite operation.
Here's Jeet.
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"Climategate's guerrilla warriors: pesky foes or careful watchdogs?
Jeet Heer
Exploring the increasingly influential community of online bloggers who take aim at climate-change science"
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/national/climategates-guerrilla-warriors-pesky-foes-or-careful-watchdogs/article1474924/
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"Quote of the week #29
This QOTW is from an article in the Toronto Globe and Mail which focuses on the rise of skeptic blogs including CA and WUWT.
The article contained this nugget from Gavin Schmidt, who never fails to disappoint with his (what McIntyre calls backhanded ) prose:
“He could be a scientific superstar,” Mr. Schmidt says. “He’s a smart person. He could be adding to the sum total of human knowledge, but in effect he adds to the reduction of the sum total of human knowledge.”
You know, sometimes I think Dr. Schmidt’s ego must be so large that the NY Dept of Transportation would have to put out orange traffic cones ahead of him when he travels.
I found this portion of the Globe and Mail article also interesting:
In the wake of the scandal, blogs that question the reality of man-made global warming have surged in public attention, leading new readers to websites such as Wattsupwiththat.com (run by weatherman Anthony Watts) and climatedepot.com (run by conservative activist Marc Morano). The sites’ rising popularity, and the growing influence they appear to wield in shaping public debate, is deeply worrying to the scientific community.
What should be deeply worrying to the scientific community is that they’ve allowed climate science to become noble cause corrupted by monied interests. Some serious retrospection is needed."
http://wattsupwiththat.com/2010/02/20/quote-of-the-week-29/#more-16581
"""Under their present chairman, "Julius Caesar" Gambolonly and those past, the principles involved seem poorly understood.""""
and in A-dam Giobroni's world there is only office winds blowing:-))
The average live expectancy of Inuit is about 2/3 that of ours. They don't have any more memory of past weather patterns than the average 40 year old living in Findlater.
M&M: True Canadian Heroes.
Veritas victrix.
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"The Heretics: McIntyre and McKitrick
When the infamous hockey-stick graph that purported to prove that human activities are causing runaway global warming was finally broken, there is some irony in the fact that a couple of Canadians did the breaking. Retired mining engineer Steve McIntyre and Ross McKitrick, Professor of Economics at the University of Guelph, have been a thorn in the side of global warming alarmists for years. McIntyre, McKitrick and, more often, the acronym “M&M” to refer to the pair, are the subject of many discussions in the e-mails released from the University of East Anglia’s Climate Research Unit (CRU) last November.
Reading the e-mails, it quickly becomes clear that leading alarmist scientists, like Michael Mann at Penn State and Phil Jones at the CRU, seemed positively obsessed – almost to the point of appearing deranged at times – with discrediting McIntyre and McKitrick. For example, when the pair published their first hockey stick busting paper in 2003, Mann sent an angry e-mail to his colleagues, telling them how to deal with MM: “The important thing is to deny that this has any intellectual credibility whatsoever and, if contacted by any media, to dismiss this for the stunt that it is.”
Raymond Bradley, a climatologist with the University of Massachusetts at Amherst and part of the International Panel on Climate Change (IPCC), went even farther, suggesting that CRU should provide the “independent” voice that would discredit McIntyre and McKitrick: “…if an “independent group” such as you guys at CRU could make a statement as to whether the M&M effort is truly an “audit”, and if they did it right, I think that would go a long way to defusing the issue… If you are willing, a quick and forceful statement from The Distinguished CRU Boys would help quash further arguments.”
What did McIntyre and McKitrick do to put these climatologists on the defensive?" (more)
http://frontpagemag.com/2010/02/19/the-heretics-mcintyre-and-mckitrick/
Jema 54
[....The scientists and politicians and their camp followers in the msm all lied to taxpayers.]
To be precise...this was not ALL scientists or the alleged scientific consensus but rather a relatively small cabel of UN/NWO enabled bureaucrats who had SOME scientific credentials. Gavin Schmidt is just part of that 42-43 member cabel.
The important point that the warmists don't want to touch is this -- open water in the arctic basin has often been linked with glacial advances outside the arctic basin. They have always tried to sell the governments on the scenario that open water in the arctic is just the first stage of catastrophic melting. In reality, at least with natural cycles, the opposite is more likely to happen. And the near-meltdown of 2007 proved this point rather emphatically -- some of us predicted this might happen as a "rebound effect" and when it did rather obviously happen in winter 07-08, I think there was a considerable shift in opinion about what was really happening, and what might reasonably be expected to happen.
I'm not too convinced that ice is making a total recovery, because of the thickness factor, but certainly the areal extent has recovered fairly well since 2007. But on the other hand, I am not too worried about some eventual loss of permanent sea ice in the arctic, because that might just end up recharging the land ice due to increased snowfall.
When your mean annual temperatures are around -20 C there is plenty of room for a bit of warming in mid-winter without losing snow cover, but at each end of the snowfall season (which up north is basically the outer edges of summer) you can actually get a lot more snow with all that open water around, particularly in the late summer and autumn.
The longer this controversy goes on, the more complex it becomes, and many of the oversimplified paradigms of early AGW days have already been abandoned even by warmists.
We have to cut off their lifeblood -funding- or this nonsense will continue ad nauseum. Dalton McGuinty, after having mismanaged the energy and financial sector of his own province, is now asking the Canadian taxpayer to fund wind turbines and solar projects in Ontario! This compulsion to throw taxpayer money at Big Green has to stop. The well is dry here in Ontario, so Mr. McGuinty is attempting to tap into a larger tax base to further his green dream. Where are the Canadian lawsuits?
www.cbc.ca/politics/story/2010/12/16/ontario-energy.html
Lynne, check this out;
Bankrupt Europe has a lesson for Congress about wind power.
http://www.americanthinker.com/2010/02/wind_energys_ghosts_1.html
The great genius behind lieberal spending programs like solar powered windmills or snowflake powered solar panels is their restraint. If they have to waste $180 out of $200 million to skim $20 million they are happy with their share. There is a lesson there for all politicians. Don't be greedy.
OK, Just changed my mind.
Bring on Global Warming! We'll take over the world.
This comment on 'Reason.com ' opened my eyes.
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There's a reason why those 30 million Canadians live along the U.S. border: it's the farthest south they can go without becoming Americans.
Just a few degrees of warming could turn Canada into a superpower. All that land, all those resources, coastlines on three oceans...all they need are people and a reason to go there. Just a few degrees warmer... [/Quote]
Wow! Can't wait!
Who got excited about about Global Warming?
Why?
We individual lemmings can do almost nothing to shift the course of a giant ocean liner guided by Solar storms and Volcanic atmospheric cover.
Was it all a decoy away from the reAL THING WE CAN DO SOMETHING ABOUT? ['sticky caps lock'].
POLLUTION is within our ability to affect some change.
Problem? Industry must then face added costs, and, [ most dreaded], change to better methods.
Change?? Oh no... Please Give us more global warming.
Some Canadian geography.
A series of images showing the Nares Strait arch breakup during July 2009.
http://preview.tinyurl.com/ykhjrej