Pat Condell

This must be old: Livingstone hasn't been mayor for a while (see how well-informed I am?).

I also know that Condell is an atheist, and more to the point an aggressive secularist, and so he can be very logically consistent when he mocks allowing a Muslem pharmacist to refuse to sell birth-control (I hadn't actually realized Islam had an issue with birth-control, but whatever). But I think it's tragic that every reasonable accomodation provided people with moral/religious objections to certain practices - doctors not being obliged to perform abortions, for example - is being exploited by Islamists to the point where the entire idea of accomodating anyone's beliefs will have to be dispensed with altogether. Common-law only works if you assume a certain level of good will.

Does that make any sense or do I need a lot more coffee?

Nice of you to widen this guy's audience: he's articulate, he's funny, and he's right.

I always maintained that Bush invaded the wrong country.

At this rate Allied forces will have the chore of a second liberation of Europe in 100 years - but are they really worth it?

So what your saying mamaba is that the muslims are going to ruin it for us all ? LOL i think we have known this for awhile .

And again even pat condell takes the politically correct highroad there ARE good muslims who do not want to fight and war and all of that . The problem lies in the book of faith the koran it is a hate filled book of death and blood shed and oppression....the radical muslims aare in fact following the koran right to a "T" the other muslims are in direct conflict with the koran and i commend them persoanly for seeing this and choosing peace over there religious book of death.

To me islam is not worhty of the title religion becasue out of every single entire world conflict from bosnia,to beslam, from syria to sri lanka isalm is the root of every single war conflict out there with maybe the exception of kim jong ill and his brother men-ta-li lol making a joke there .

I hope one day soon the west wakes up and realizes this crap and pushes these barbarians back to the desert and camel S#$T hut's the came from .

I personaly think that for the betterment of the west the death cult of islam should be band from everysingle western seociety and the current ones that are here as long as they are peaceful can stay but not one building can be converted into a mosk and no new mosks can be built ever never ever ever ....sieks can build tamples and practice there religion hinhus can jews can christians can ,buddihsts can every other single religion can except islam period .

just my thought's .

Paul in calgary

Condell's assessment of Islam is spot on. We see what is going on in Europe and the Uk in particular and we fret about what is happening there.

There is no sense fretting about what is happening in Europe. We need to get our own house in order here in North America. There should be absolutely no accomodating radical Islam here. We cannot allow it to happen in our cities and towns, not in homes, not in mosques - not anywhere!

Like Condell says - radical Islam does not want agreement - it wants domination and obedience. We need to let our politicians know that this is serious stuff and they need to take it seriously.

Well sort of, Paul. I was trying to say that attempts to counter aggressive islamism in the West - assuming anyone in authority has the nuts or sense to try - will probably involve the purging of any religion from the public sphere and force a very sterile and inhuman secularism on society. Just like the more militant atheists want.

LOL.

This is nothing against Condell; I'm a fan.

(BTW spellcheck badly wants to help.)

We have a long row to hoe. There are more books translated into Spanish every year than have been translated into Arabic in 2000 years!!

you'vebeenconnedagain....

actually there are more foreign books translated into spanish per year than ALL muslim countries have published of their own authors in modern history...

it's a benighted parasitic culture...they have 'literally' and figuratively produced zip nada zero contributions to the world...aside that is from a certain barbaric talent for both big and small murders...

My grandfather used to say, that if every Russian soldier shot just one German soldier during the WWII, the war would have ended quickly.

The western societies are being converted to Islam and it is currently the fastest growing religion.

Our penal system is full of it. The jails are hotbeds of conversion, it is the law of the jungle and the biggest, fastest and strongest are using their full force to convert the jails into mosques. When these jails are emptied this violent and radicalized group of society will use the "sword of Islam" to "convert the infidels".

The prisons will be emptied when the state can no longer pay their bills and go bankrupt, then they will swing open the doors and rats will be set free.

JMO

They are not insulting Islam, they are promoting it. And the "vast majority" of Muslims wear sheeps clothing to facilitate free movement of the wolves. He is spot on about the Saudis and they represent Sunni Islam. The tail of Islam, the Shia, wags in Tehran. Take them both down and Islam is done.

Condell is correct in everything except his separation of radical Islam from "moderate" Muslims. There are Islamic jihadists and there are quiet and peaceful Islamists. Generally, one can count on the later being ultimately under the thumb of the former when the pivotal moment arrives to assimilate or die in your neighbourhood.

The price for entry into or to maintain existing residence within Western civilization should be the written confirmation of a truly reformed Islam so that it can exist peacefully along side the rest of the modern reformed or inherently peaceful religions. That will likely mean a death sentance to the first "moderates" who try to rewrite the books and that proves my point.

A religion like Islam that inherently leads to illiberal theocracy deserves no secular liberal tolerance.

For the Western liberal secular societies to survive we must have the courage to say to all Muslims: Get out of the Seventh century or get out of the West. Clearly, what they bring with them is the end of our liberties. All we would be saying is leave that baggage at the door or go back to the retrograde Islamic societies from which you came.

Black Mamba
Your right its an old posting Livingstone is long gone from Mayors office, unfortunately still around, hasn't made much difference despite having Boris as mayor still the same dhimmitude.

But can I please respectfully suggest you all check out Condells latest on the trial of Gert Wilders as this (Wilders Trial) doesn't seem to be getting very much coverage and it really should have the Western world screaming.

Some technical troubles are preventing me from going to the originating web site - is this video on YT? I can't see it among Pat's videos to which I am subscribed.

Well Pat, it may "..get up your nose..." but it's not going to change for the better. In fact, it's going to get worse. Your yob liberal culture were ready to give up under Maggie -- a generation before y'all had this existentail threat. Back then, it was a difference of opinion. Now, it's a difference of religion. You fink the the IRA was bad?????? In the name of God, good luck!

Condell is not only correct, but is omitting to warn and inform of the Saudi cunning and intelligence.

If you happen to witness an interview with the head of the Saudi Royal Family, you will see a charming heavy set humble man who weaves a spell of friendly good nature to all manner of friends and beasts in near Oxford english.

This bright and well educated leader is able to answer all embarrassing questions about '' religious police violence '' and other government sanctioned malpractice with convincing assurance that Saudi Arabia is in transition and these unfortunate things are being phased out. '' Trust me in this. '' He says.

The ' professional' British interviewer was fully under the charmed spell of this charismatic Saudi leader.

All of Britian seems spellbound.
In fact all of Europe may be under the spell as well.
======The Fly at February 18, 2010 8:20 AM said..

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I always maintained that Bush invaded the wrong country.[/Quote]

CORRECT! But lobby power made me do it, said Bush.

Exxon, Chevron, Shell, BP, Texaco et all have a monopoly. They need Saudi crude to keep us on ONE fuel. We bright citizens of North America have no alternate choice!

GM, Ford, Chrysler et all have a problem. They all depend on that one fuel to sell their cars.

Lobby Power:

Saudi Arabia is UNTOUCHABLE.

Kate, are you able to provide links to your video clips? Your server is too slow and gets bogged down, even stuck, on most videos. If you could put up a direct link we could view them at normal straight-thru warp speed. Thanks for considering the request :-)

TG at 12:08
Check who has what for one you'll not find BP has assets in Saudi and I doubt that some of the others do either