Now Is The Time At SDA When We Juxtapose!

Gee I wonder what the target may be?

Who's commotioning online? I don't get it. Drudge Report doesn;t have any links to any online commotion either. I'm confused.

The logo in the middle is the new missle defense logo, isn't it?
It has to be, as the one on the left is the flag for the United Islamic States of America, coming soon to a country near you.

Compare with the old logo. The "star" was already there, and represents the incoming missile being shot down.

The "cresecent" is a segment of space representing low Earth orbit.

This is a non-issue.

There are much, much, much better causes for complaint about the Administration's actions.

Let's not forgoet the new Pepsi logo, which also hauntingly resembles that of chairman Zero's.

What, Lenin's head wrapped in a turban wasn't available?

Wow, these guys just floor me. Their numbers are in the tank with no bottom in sight and they just keeping handing out more of the same.

Just how big a stick do they need to get over the head before the bell rings.

Heh I can see the paid commentators have arrived.

Meh...I get that there would be furor over the similarity to the Great O's symbol, but really, the crescent is a stretch.

I think this is as far-fetched as the Muslim complaint in the UK, that the chocolate swirls on his ice-cream cone ressembled the arabic for 'allah' and that this was an insult to Islam.

There are only a limited number of geometric shapes, from the square, circle, triangle, and a limited number of symbols. Using them in a design doesn't necessarily mean that their meaning is shared.

I agree that the crescent is a strech, but I'm comforted to muse how many Muslim's heads would explode if they new that the it is this same crescent that serves as the cut-out pattern to provide daylight/moonlight to the thousands of outhouses that still dot the rural North American landscape.

Paid commentators! heh!

Try that again....

if they KNEW that it is...

* New keyboard!

I'm surprised the new defence agency isn't called the Orbital Ballistic Atomic Missile Agency.
(OBAMA)

And yeah, the new crest looks like a crescent.
Some think Obama has a tin ear for these things but so much is wrong that it looks intentional to me.

A crescent moon, with a star.

Huh.

But I'm relaxing. This must just be down to epic stupidity and mind-numbing ignorance on the part of the U.S. Dept. of Defense. It has to be; and that's a comforting thought.

There are only a limited number of geometric shapes, from the square, circle, triangle, and a limited number of symbols. Using them in a design doesn't necessarily mean that their meaning is shared.
~ET

That was my first thought.
My second thought was how many different ways these limited shapes can be put together to make different things and create new meaning.
The meaning reflects the maker's mind, especially when the creation is a 2 dimensional symbol.

Symbols have symbolism.

This must just be down to epic stupidity and mind-numbing ignorance on the part of the U.S. Dept. of Defense.
~Black Mamba

Yeah, and the head of the U.S. Department of Defense is a Commander and Chief named B. H. Obama.
I haven't given him the benefit of the doubt yet, why start now?

Really really epic stupidity. The Illiad + Odyssey of out-to-lunch clueless head-smacking WTFery.

But you're on your own out there in paranoiaville, Oz. I will not permit this weird administration to divest me of the last scraps of what passes for my sanity. Obama is not some sort of secret Islamic sleeper agent, and even if he were (which he isn't; frankly I'd've been more creeped out by a hammer-and-cycle type symbol, or maybe Che Guevara) the U.S. defense department is not working for the Saudis.

It'll all be over in three years.

For comparison purposes, this is the old logo.

and check out the Obama Youth Logo

http://thedailyrasp.blogspot.com/2010/02/symbols-of-obama-crescent-moon-star.html

what a coinkydink!

Black Mamba, and the old logo needed to be changed why?
To create jobs perhaps or just to take a dump on tradition?
(because Americans don't value tradition, right?)
Tell me how many agency logos have been changed in such a radical way over that agency's history?

The CIA, FBI, ATF, Treasury Department?
Which ones?

But you're on your own out there in paranoiaville, Oz. I will not permit this weird administration to divest me of the last scraps of what passes for my sanity.
~Black Mamba

Different strokes for different folks.
To stay sane I attack my problems.(and drink a little)

I also learn by observing success.
For 8 years the Democrats poisoned the well of political discourse and beat the Republicans through a death by a thousand cuts.

Turnabout is fair play, and can also be fun as well as sanity conserving.
Yes, Obama will be out in 3 years, but wounding without salting is banal.

Obama, An Inconvenient Goof

Short memories people.....

What ever happened to this?

The Flght93 Memorial.

There is a steady drip of such supposedly "Non-Issues".

Drip ... drip ... drip until there is a flood of Anti-Amercian symbolism.

And the group that is always there to defend the chipping away.

File this under "Know your enemy."

I don't see the connection. Yes I believe that Owebambam is a Muslim. However I doubt that he would be the one to create the new logo. He's not that creative! This reminds me of the Olympic logo vs the Conservative logo here in Canada.

Joe, why the need for a new logo?
What was wrong with the old logo that it needed to be changed?

I think the change came from the top, and if so, that Obama had a hand in the design.

ommag - the flight 93 memorial image had far more in common with a mosque image of pointing to Mecca than this new logo has in common with the other two images.

And even if it didn't have that commonality, you cannot logically say that because it did or did not share a logo imagery, that it was intentional and, or, that this new logo also shares a logo imagery and intentionality.

I could also say, heck, the new logo looks a lot like the Nike logo..and from there, muse about the extent of big corporate influence and..that star looks like a satellite image of a comet..

oz - your opinions are ungrounded in evidence and remain pure speculation.

oz - your opinions are ungrounded in evidence and remain pure speculation.
~ET

You are right.
Except for the fact that my speculation appears to be the thread topic, also widely discussed on the net, and that no one has come up with any reason why a perfectly good agency logo was changed while no other agency logo was changed.

Yeah, sure, ungrounded.

Striking similarities to the Islamic crescent and Obama's logo notwithstanding.

Are the people around him this stupid, or is this just typical Obama Hubris?
Like a Trudeau Roman salute sent Westward?

Both of these apply but I'm not sure in which order.

If it walks like a duck...

and then my favorite

Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, well...you can't fool me again.

"Black Mamba, and the old logo needed to be changed why?
To create jobs perhaps or just to take a dump on tradition?"

You just don't get it OZ. Sometimes you have to spend money to make money. Like the time the Saskatchewan government paid big $$$ for a new Saskatchewan mantra.

Saskatchewan! worth every penny.

Think of it this way:
the US is sitting on the flip side of the logo, reaching around, and shoving the star right up the crescent's ass.

As eskimo points out, the crescent and star are common cut-outs on the wooden doors of outhouses. Now, what are we to make of that?

oz, because it's the topic of this thread and because it's on various blogs (and FOX online) doesn't mean that your speculations are valid.

Oz, because it's the topic of this thread and because it's on various blogs (and FOX online) doesn't mean that your speculations are valid.
~et

Doesn't mean they're invalid either, et.
Still it would be nice if you could give me an even speculative explanation of why the logo was changed and why it resembles both the Obama logo and the Islamic crescent.

As eskimo points out, the crescent and star are common cut-outs on the wooden doors of outhouses. Now, what are we to make of that?
~et

You won't make anything of that because it would be pure speculation, right, et?

Yes, the crescent's a bit of a stretch. However, without suggestion, I'd certainly see it. But the crescent does make sense within the context of Obama's nutty "outreach" which has given its enemies some spirited chuckles.

To me, the real issue is this constant Cult of Personality push, i.e., the use of Obama campaign imagery for a state organ which should not be personalized in this way. I don't recall this being done before in the US. To this extent, the Obama cult far exceeds the PET cult. PET didn't have a logo, tho it has to be admitted the Liberal Party of Canada tried to wrap itself in national insignia.

Technically, Obama is a Muslim; that, or an appostate muslim, for which the punishment is death -- not often delivered, but there it is. Women get a rare break: imprisonment only.

Hamas ran phone banks for Obama during the campaign.

Finally someone has recognized that the iconic picture of "The One" is a remake of Che Guevera on the tens of thousands of 'T' shirts worn on US campus' throught out the Seventies. So if it worked to get "The One" elected why wouldn't the powers that be use the same brainwashing propaganda technique to their advantage again? Kate you might get someone to juxtapose O's election button with the Cuban martyr's oft published image.

The Obama logo reflects reality. Lines rising from the left on a shallow parabolic path and about to plow into the ground on the right.

Very appropriate.

Yukon Exploding Outhouse
"Our most popular item! Open the door on this item and it literally explodes with roof, side and back walls flying off in every direction."

ALL of the cabinet level departments got new logos which were surprisingly similar in style to My Hero, Zero's personal brand.

I have a sugestion for the missile defence logo......

http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/.a/6a00d8341c60bf53ef01156f824471970c-500wi

POWinCA, I'd like to see a link to those "new cabinet logos"..
I can't seem to find any new ones, not even at the White House link itself which seems to have all the old logos and seals, some unchanged since the 19th Century.

Obama is neither Muslim nor Christian, nor any other religion. He has a vaguely defined messianic complex that is probably a default position, as in "if the suckers start to show sufficient belief, I will come out and announce my deity."

I would say he's crafty enough to realize that an agnostic position works better at this moment.

I would further speculate that Obama is one of those confused intellectuals who think that the three major monotheistic religions are all variants of one another and virutally interchangeable. Yeah, apart from about twenty centuries of negative test results, that is a theory one could hold ... if one were stoned much of the time.

I kind of like the new logo, even if missile defense is a dumb idea. And anybody who even lends an ounce of credence to the "Obama is a secret Muslim" idea is a retard.

How come every frikkin dept. needs a gaudy-chest-thumping logo, fercrissake?! How about just getting the damn job done...You need a logo? Fine, you, General Bullmoose, you pay for it out of YOUR salary and stop shoving it to the taxpayer.
You think it's peanuts we're talking here? What do you want to bet we're talking hundreds of thousands of dollars, all in!
-design competition
-stationery
-uniform items
-vehicle logos
-PR costs
-etc, etc, etc...

peter o'donnell - I agree with you about Obama's agnosticism. However, even that stance is not a result of any intellectual exploration but a result of his pathological psychology.

He's a malignant narcissist; his only focus is on himself and his own control over others. Certainly he's not a Christian. Note that he hasn't been to a church since the Obama left the anti-American, anti-white ideology of the Rev. Wright's church. Therefore, they went to that 'church' only for that societal perspective. Nothing to do with Christianity.

I'd say he's not a Muslim either, not because of any intellectual decision, but again, because his focus is only on Himself. Though he has in the past in Indonesia, been brought up in its ideology.

As for merging the three monotheistic religions, he probably does that. He's not a person with a desire for rational thought or analysis, he's a manipulative self-focused narcissist.

Does Obama consider himself the 2nd coming of:
a)JFK
b)FDR
c)Lincoln
d)God
e)Allah

In my best John McLaughlin sneer: "Wrong! The answer is all of the above."

However, even that stance is not a result of any intellectual exploration but a result of his pathological psychology.
~et

et, your opinions are ungrounded in evidence and are pure speculation.
You could not possibly know whether Obama has explored himself intellectually or not.
Neither could you know whether he is a Christian or not by his church attendance, which is not a requirement for Christian belief or practice.

To say that Obama is only focused on himself is pure speculation on your part.
You do not know him personally nor do you know what he does when he is not being covered by the MSM.

In short, your mere opinions on these things are invalid.

The term narcissist is a pigeonhole that psychologists and psychiatrists, both pseudosciences, have agreed upon through a consensus much like climate science.

But let us pretend, just for the sake of discussion, that they are sciences and not an interpretaion based faith.
Narcissism is a healthy adult personality trait according to their consensus.

You have no way of knowing that Obama is a malignant narcissist.

In fact, any of his known public behavioural examples that you could provide can easily be explained by Obama's beliefs in Marxism/Communism, beliefs of which we have ample evidence he holds.

Oz - I do agree with you that psychology is mostly daft. However: "Narcissism is a healthy adult personality trait..."

I don't think that word means what you think it means.

Healthy narcissism is formed through a structural truthfulness of the self, achievement of self and object constancy, synchronization between the self and the superego and a balance between libidinal and aggressive drives (the ability to receive gratification from others and the drive for impulse expression). Healthy narcissism forms a constant, realistic self-interest and mature goals and principles and an ability to form deep object relations. A feature related to healthy narcissism is the feeling of greatness. This is used to avoid feelings of inadequacy or insignificance.

http://tinyurl.com/ydc9bzdism

Read the whole section on Healthy Narcissism.

Yeah, I know it's "wiki" but there isn't any rational reason to assume they have a political stake in providing false or erroneous information in this particular case.

I'm sure I could provide a better source but I'm too busy.
Just search Healthy Narcissism for yourself if in doubt.

Oz - you know that isn't the type of "narcissism" ET is talking about - that's something altogether different; it's really just a coincidence of terminology.

Yes, Black Mamba.

ET is talking about malignant narcissism, an abnormal personality disorder.
There is no evidence that Obama is a malignant narcissist.

As I said, all of his behaviour can be attributed to his belief in Marxism/Communism, which give him a different set of values then many people, especially people who frequent this blog.

I wonder if it was drawn in the 56th or 57th state?