Not Waiting For The Asteroid

Wow, conservatives are now 'guerillas' that must mean that conservatives are also counter cultural and avant garde. Who would have thought?

Hey greenies and hippies, you're now the "Establishment."

BWAHAHAHAHA!

New headline, "Pit bulls attack poodles".

Doug said " conservatives are now 'guerillas' that must mean that conservatives are also counter cultural and avant garde. Who would have thought?"

It's been that way for awhile. I used to piss people off when they said they liked alternative music. Alternative to what? Mainstream? The fact that Nirvana was on every major tv show and had the biggest selling album getting the most airplay their fans still tried to claim they were alternative. The left is like that now. They have become the people they claim to be against. For some strange reason they are oblivious to absurdity of their own situation.

wow, gord are you reading my mind or what? ;)

From some "expert" quoted by an MSMer :

Here is how Queensland University's Professor Ove Hoegh-Guldberg, a world expert on coral reefs and climate change, describes what happened when he contributed a small slice of the 2007 IPCC report:

"The IPCC has one of the most rigorous review processes I have ever experienced...."

Neither one of them actually know whether there was any so called peer review ... or bother to ask.

In the case of the scientist and so called expert ... if that is the most rigorous review process he ever experienced, it should make everyone ask "Just what sort of peer review HAVE you experienced?>

The "experts" who resort to sources of accreditation seem to miss the fact that they ...themselves ...have undermined or allowed to be undermined... those very sources.

A house of cards .... dwellings built upon sand.

Seems to me the scientific comunity has forgotton the principle keeping you own house in good order and the foundations in proper repair.
Instead of doing that they ... as a group .. allowed their house to be undermined and infested.

As for the MSM .... stupider by the day. Beyond hope... beyond redemption.

The acrid smell of roasted Dinosaur wafts upward. Tsktsk
...-

"Fire destroys CTV's Ottawa newsroom; archives lost"

"Among the losses were the local news archives of Ottawa's history and the 37-year video history of anchor Max Keeping who is set to retire April 1, CTV said in a story published on its website."

http://www.google.com/hostednews/canadianpress/article/ALeqM5jdRVZI60U0ji81DhUuiSyGwNKS-w

When I saw Kate's "You don't speak for me" statement on SDA years ago, I knew this place was worthy of my time and trust. Every post is a debate between visitors that mostly are looking for the same things - greater understanding and a solid foundation to express opinion. A place where getting to the bottom line of truth is always the point.

Climategate/AGW is perhaps the greatest of the many shining examples that boldly underlines the value of SDA and other like-minded information aggregator blog sites to the continuing fight against those that seek to destroy individual freedom and liberty. The overlying mission I interpret is if the facts don't add up, dig deeper and look for the hidden snake oil den of special interests (something we believed the MSM used to do until they mortgaged their souls to sell religion instead of the much harder job of uncovering the truth). I shiver to think what our politicians and their well-fed press lapdogs almost let happen to our country at Copenhagen.

To Kate and your community of hardworking faithful supporters, for your vision and contribution to truth and debate within Canada and beyond I salute you! Thank you.

Maybe someone can explain to me how it is that the left is often led by what is termed the "intellectual elite". University professors and the like. Yet socialist policies and socialist governments has been proven to be failures around the world time and time again. It seems like more than a little of an oxymoron to refer to these people as "intellectual" or "elite". Most have been sucking off some government department or the other their entire life. I used to think that intellect was synonymous with wisdom...obviously not. In my opinion, these people are low life leeches sucking off the system and hiding in their ivory towers spewing their socialist puke at every opportunity. And the MSM that worships their every word and promotes their garbage are even lower on the scum food chain of the left.

Kate, thanks for the link to the Spectator; it's been a while since I've visited their site.

After reading the excellent linked article, I encourage readers to check out "Taki" among the columnists at the Spectator. This horny old Greek goat (if you'll pardon the redundancy) takes no prisoners as he details the life of the rich and mighty, and adds the occasional gem of his own.

For example, discussing the current crisis in his native Greece, he refers to it as "the birthplace of electrolysis". Great for some warming laughs on a cold Sunday afternoon!

Two years ago, a smart-ass, wet behind the ears Kennedy knew it all. A very good read, considering that all the 'Gates' we're just around the corner. (And to think the LA Times would print this rubbish)

Los Angeles Times
September 24, 2008

By ROBERT F. KENNEDY Jr.

In Virginia, the weather also has changed dramatically. Recently arrived residents in the northern suburbs, accustomed to today's anemic winters, might find it astonishing to learn that there were once ski runs on Ballantrae Hill in McLean, with a rope tow and local ski club. Snow is so scarce today that most Virginia children probably don't own a sled .

And today, heh heh

[The snow is piled up in front of the West Wing of the White House in Washington Saturday, Feb. 6, 2010. Mid-Atlantic residents were buried by a blizzard that the president jokingly called 'Snowmageddon.'] AP

"Nothing prevented Ms. O'Neil from taking a firsthand look at the IPCC report herself. She, like me, could have typed "WWF" (which stands for the activist group, the World Wildlife Fund) into a search box"

Or nothing prevented Ms. O'Neil from using the interweb google thingy to look up the annual financial reports from the WWF and Greenpeace.

If she has she had, she would have realized that the WWF raised, from donations and government grants, over $3 BILLION dollars in five years.

Now that's some Gravy Train that they will do anything to keep rolling. Anything doesn't mean being honest and truthful.

http://www.climate-resistance.org/2010/01/wwf-wtf.html

It is always about the money, always follow the money.

The kicker

[ "climate change" is not only a scientific scandal but also a massive journalistic failure.]

And THAT! is why 'global warming' was much larger than just the weather.

This mother-of-all-scams may also end the plague of misinformation that has been on going since 1436 Gutenberg.

It must have been/is pure he!! for some Journalists. They tried to tell the real story but daily saw their paper put out headlines claiming little ole carbon dioxide was going to kill us.

Aw shucks. When I read the word "poodle" I immediately thought to Dr. Dawg. Imagine my disappointment.

LOL Louise, I thought the same thing. Many, many Modern Urnalists do not go out and seek to verify their stories, they go to twitter and facebook to seek said evidence.

I protest all these denigrations of poodle, including calling Scott Brison one. The standard poodle is considered a very bright dog, strong, and capable. It is only the toys and miniatures, shaved and hairdressed by people into a parody of canine dignity, that deserve derision.

Back me up on this, Kate?

Martin B wrote: "When I saw Kate's "You don't speak for me" statement on SDA years ago, I knew this place was worthy of my time and trust"

Exactly. That's why I financially support Kate when I can afford to do so.

I used to read the Spectator all the time; a friend passed on his discarded copies. Taki is great; in fact, all of the writers were wonderful. Even if you didn't agree with them, their arguments were exquisitely articulate and never knee-jerk liberal crap.

Is it still as influential as it was 10/15 years ago? This article will certainly put Climategate on the map for a lot of people whose heads may still be up their yin-yangs. It's read by pretty smart people!!! ;-)

A little back ground checking...putting the timelines in perspective.

In the case of the cited interview and article by Steyn/Ridley ....ABC Australia's Margot O'Neill.

It happened back in November and therefore she may claim ignorance of the issues in regard to the IPCC's lack of credibility.
Since her own kind had failed to report on it at all, prior to the revelation of the "E-mails"...

Whether she has had any change of opinion or allegiance in these matters is unknown.

BUT .... since I and many others have been well aware of the nature of the IPCC and it's cohort well before that time (2 years) ..... exactly WHY that should be a valid defence would be beyond reason.

It also seems that she has published NO related material since Nov. 23/09....

Martin B @ 12:55 says it for me. It was Kate's "You don't speak for me" that drew me to this site and keeps me here when I have time. All of the visitors do not always agree, but it is the free expression of ideas that is important and not the canned newspeak leftist or leftist light ideology that we get from almost all of the MSM.

Surely the MSM poodles have now learned their lesson and will be hesitant about jumping on the next doomsday bandwagon. They will put aside their bias, become detached skeptics and thoroughly investigate all claims made by experts, NGO's and special interests. No more fear-mongering about the vast right wing conspiracy, human created natural disasters and pestilence.

Nah, you can't teach an old dog new tricks. Sit boy, roll over, play dead...good doggie.

LC Bennett: I assume you've seen 'Old Yeller'.

It'd sure be nice to see Stephen McIntyre get some acknowledgement from the Canadian government.
A seat in the Senate would show the proper appreciation!

My goggle RE: Scientific America's Voodoo Science Editor in Chief & Jeffrey D Sacks (regularly bends the truth) turned up the following Web Site on Science Journalism....

My favorite Quote, found on the web site

{quote]What unites them is a deep conviction that science is far too important to be left only to scientists [/quote]

Who would guess?

http://journalism.nyu.edu/sherp/

Shock Alert!

Drudge has a link to a Globe and Mail article titled "The Great Global Warming Collapse" by Margaret Wente.

Shove over Rex, here comes Marg!!

Blame Crash, first an appearance before the Joint Senate/House of Commons Inquiry into the state of climate "science" that will soon be struck by parliament.

Okay. So that's not going to happen, but I guess one can always hope.

Did anybody watch the goings on at the Tennessee Tea Party Convention these past few days? We need a Tea Party movement here, too.

PiperPaul, I vaguely remember watching Old Yeller. I agree that the media is diseased and the only humane solution is too quickly put it out of its misery. Then again, Old Yeller was charming and valuable. The audience cried at the dogs death. I get the feeling that former newspaper readers are indifferent to old media's fate.

A giant poodle named Regan Ray, writing at j-source, provides us with a really fine example of how mental dimness + pontification = MSM journalism.

It's a howler:

"I can’t speak with authority on science. But after 35 years and a score of honours for documentaries, articles and books, I do know a thing or two about journalism. So I’ll let the academy decide whether the email behind 'climategate' exposed any scientific fraud. But I can say this:

"The real scandal here isn’t scientific. It’s journalistic."

Brace yourself - he's about to assume the fold and smooch position:

"Under prominent bylines I read that the emails exposed man-made climate change as (a partial list): 'the biggest fraud in history' (David Warren, the Ottawa Citizen); 'one of the biggest scientific scams of our time' (Charles Adler, blog); 'the biggest scientific hoax in a generation' (Lorne Gunter, National Post); and a 'racket' (Mark Steyn, National Review). Peter Worthington (Sun) cites approvingly Conrad Black’s verdict that, 'global warming… is not, in fact, occurring at all.'"

Such "dishonest journalism," he writes, goes "beyond cherry-picking facts to reckless endangerment...the equivalent of failing to shout fire in a crowded theater that is slowly filling with deadly fumes." He types out a hyperbolic, non-factual litany of AGW-caused disasters obviously gleaned from stale-dated MSM sources: "The most violent rainstorms, persistent droughts and powerful storms are all increasing. Plants and animals are migrating away from the equator and up to higher elevations. Diseases are appearing in new places. Established seasons are becoming irregular. Extreme weather has blighted food harvests from salmon to wheat."

I love this bit -

"Journalists aren’t (god knows) society's brains. But we can make a case for being its synapses, passing around information and ideas so the rest of society can better navigate a shifting landscape of threats and opportunities."

His final plea:

"Peter, Lorne, Mark and the rest of you: You betray journalism’s core product, that flint of fact beneath the fancy footwork. You’re urging people to stay in their seats while the theatre burns.

"You’re hurting us. Stop."

Pure comedy gold.

Climategate must be a nightmare for those collaborators at msm. Heh. This is just the tip of the iceburg - the lies about health issues (eggs, butter, beef), oil, tobacco, 'recycled air' (being healthy), education...it's all fair game and the Truth choo choo will not stop now!

Thanks Kate for always being here for all the rest of us.

Oh dear..the next time I see Peter or Lloyd, or Tommy Clark, I'll 'see' poodles.

Ollie looks too much like a horned owl.

Bwa ha ha...

Could we please stop picking on poodles? They're actually very smart -- second, apparently, to border collies.

How about comparing journalists to chihuahuas: They're ugly, they've got tiny brains, and they never stop yapping.

'Anything I missed?

"Could we please stop picking on poodles? They're actually very smart -- second, apparently, to border collies."

Border Collies are the smartest dogs in the world. Pitbulls on the other hand are the only dogs that are actually smarter than their owners.

I generally read the Spectator for its excellent writing besides its conservatism. He's no longer a monthly regular columnist but Paul Johnson was worth the hefty price (here in Canada) alone, and was the first page I'd turn to.

Martin B. at February 7, 2010 12:55 PM said:

"A place where getting to the bottom line of truth is always the point."

More here:

"Cultic doctrines kill freedom; they demand its immolation in the sacrificial flames of their causes. Truth and free will – truth and freedom – by contrast require and nourish one another. We must vigorously remind our friends and neighbors of these facts."

"Liberalism and the Search for the Ground: Another Visit with Eric Voegelin
From the desk of Thomas F. Bertonneau"

http://www.brusselsjournal.com/node/4308

The fact that the majority of the Journalism Industry jumped on board the AGW bandwagon without EVER showing any skepticism is indeed alarming. What ever happened to checking the facts and getting both sides to the story? Evidently the journalism schools are no longer teaching the basics, much less developing the standard of ethics that used to be a part of the trade. This is indeed an industry in decline...

I'm so glad my daughter decided against a degree in journalism. Her observation? If I just get a journalism degree, what would I know to write about?

Exactly.

batb @3:29 - "This (Spectator) article will certainly put Climategate on the map..."

When James Delingpole isn't slaving away over at the Times, he's writing articles for the Spectator covering Climategate. They've been pretty good on this. And I'm afraid that I think Taki is an amusing, childish, anti-semitic pig. (Been reading the Spectator since I was small and adorable, you see - weird parents.)

Apparently dalmations are the stupidest dogs.

EBD....amazing! That link defines why the MSM is slipping into extinction. Without any of his own effort to investigate, he warns Worthington and Gunter to stop...'cuz THEY are hurting the sacred 'journo' reputation!!!
He-just-knows.

Laughable, indeed.

Steyn and the Spectator author call Climategate a failure of mainstream journalism. I disagree. I think the whole global warming schtick leading up to climategate was mainstream journalism doing what it always does: licking the hand that feeds it like a good doggy.

Their problem these days is that unlike the -entire- 20th century, now they have competition. And because they have never actually experienced real competition in their business, they are pretty much falling apart.

Yay.

Incidentally, I'm in Arizona right now. Saw a great bumper sticker today, "I was against Obama before it was cool."

I love this place. :)

Black Mamba: " ... I'm afraid that I think Taki is an amusing, childish, anti-semitic pig."

I agree that Taki's a spoiled and entitled rich guy, 'don't remember the anti-semitic thing, but he's amusing and I loved his politically incorrect bravado.

I haven't read his stuff for a long time.

batb - "politically incorrect bravado" I'll grant you, but he makes Tiger Woods look like a nun, Jayson Blair look like a rigorous fact-checker, and yeah, I'm just betting the basement at Palazzo Taki is full of Rommel paraphenalia; Rommel being the generous guess.

Anyway, Delingpole has been very very good on this whole kerfuffel, and kudos to Matt Ridley too.

taki liked his cocaine and was busted for it but i digress...

speaking on crime in G.B. i remember this comment by the man.."black thugs...the sons of black thugs and the grandsons of black thugs.."

MSM poodles are headed for the trash bin all right.

Real poodles though have a great future to look forward to.

As the brightest of dogs, one can sense a trend where they seem to get ever more service and loyalty out of their '' masters ''.

Read a pro warmist bit of drivel on the Times of London site re Prof Jones' contemplated suicide as a result of those nasty unlettered deniers hounding him. It would have had a truer ring to it if he had mused about faking his own death by apparent suicide.

"the equivalent of failing to shout fire in a crowded theater that is slowly filling with deadly fumes."

This is a perfect example of a really bad analogy. Exaggerated, alarmist and just plain inaccurate.

A far more realistic analogy would be failing to yell "women and children first" at the sight of a puddle on the floor of a cruise ship. Meanwhile, a group of nautical experts is running about screaming "abandon ship", drowning out the ship's plumber who is attempting to explain that the water is the result of a plugged toilet.

All the while, friends of those urging passengers to jump overboard are on deck, selling life-jackets at $50 each.

biffjr, a creative analogy but no. What this is, is a lead-up to where they shove a gun in your face and say "gimme all yer money".

That's what the modern eco movement is, the set up for a stick-up. Nazi Germany version 2.0, with envirowhackyness standing in for the Aryan Ideal. Why just hate the Jews when according to David Suzuki, you can hate EVERYBODY!

Going by the trolls we get around here, that kind of crazy $(%^* appeals to some people.

What biffjr. and The Phantom said........

RESIST THE NEW WORLD ORDER