Free Geert Wilders

Typical of SDA to continually post any item with an anti-Muslim, anti-Islamic undercurrent. The intolerance displayed is astounding. To reiterate earlier comments, not all Muslims are terrorists, in fact, only a small faction fit that description. I query the agenda of SDAs in continually focusing on the radical Muslim minority, rather than on the vast majority of Muslims, who,which live in our own communities who are any thing but radical, and moreover are productive members of society.

T, your point might be taken more seriously if you read the article.

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RCGZ says "T, your point might be taken more seriously if you read the article."

Just let me help you a bit with that comment given T's "intellect". Your comment should read

"T, your point might be taken more seriously if you had an adult read the article to you". There....fixed.

Free speech is something worth fighting for.

That's true, T, but... all terrorists are Muslims!

2002 called -- it wants its talking points back, dude.

PS: then there's this --
'Fundamentalist is a term we use rather carelessly. Very few people take the trouble to become suicide bombers and that's good news, but the reality is that substantial numbers of Muslims agree with the aims of the Jihadists even if they don't choose to blow themselves up. When Muslims in the West are polled, 40 to 60 percent wish to live under Sharia and wish to reside in the United Kingdom and the United States as opposed to Saudi Arabia. They may disagree with the means but they entirely support the ends.'

http://www.realclearreligion.com/index_files/e01e8af31419f836fb336d51586d118b-90.html

Thanks for playing, though.

"When Muslims in the West are polled, 40 to 60 percent wish to live under Sharia"

I wonder what sex those 40% or 60% might be?

Maybe "T" should go on a fact finding mission to the middle east to see how tolerance in a Muslim society really works. SDA at least uses only words, powerfull in themselves, unlike the Muslim radicals. It is seldom that the majority of "peacefull" Muslims among us here or in Europe actually take a stand agianst their own.

These men don't get their way without the full support of their women Grey Lady.

"My enemies enemy is my friend" is the principle that oozes from trolls such as T.
News flash to the anti-social leftists:
THE COLD WAR IS OVER---YOUR SIDE LOST!

The reality is that when the useful idiots fall into the power of the "islamists" they are the ones who decorate lamp-posts and cranes....or lose their heads.

Very poignant piece. The fact of the matter is, to Jews and Christians, even with their disagreements, the Arabs and their prophet are the descendants of the bastard (and un-anointed) son of Abraham. They too are eligible for the grace of God and the Redemption by Jesus even so. They are monotheists and therefor I respect their intended or real piety, I just disagree with their audacity and assumed superiority.

gimme a T for taqqiya
gimme a T for tariq ramadan
gimme a T for a terrorist
who'll never vote for Vlaams Belang.

(from my upcoming CD called 'Mo better blues'...)

Kathy, perhaps another analogy for what you're saying is that just as in hockey, there are "enforcers" on the team. Now, in general, there may be very few players willing to drop their gloves at a moment's notice, but they are certainly happy that the enforcers are there mixing things up on their behalf.

I still say send them all to the middle east and then... PUSH THE BUTTON. To bad a usurping muslim from kenya is in charge of it right now.

I get the impression that this T person spends all day and most of the night sitting in front of his computer ready to jump in with a knee-jerk comment as soon as a new posting appears. My suggestion to him/her/it would be 'get a life'.

These men don't get their way without the full support of their women Grey Lady.
Posted by: Indiana Homez at February 1, 2010 1:08 PM

You can't have thought that one through, IH.
Example: If I beat my wife regularly and tell her that I'll kill if she reports me and she decides to heed my advice ... she supports me?

While Kathy is probably right in many respects, it is also true that domestic muslims who don't support shari'a law and jihad may be silent for two reasons: 1) the safety of their kin back home and 2) our craven, gutless political class often treat Islamists (CAIR, for example) as the legitimate spokesmen for all muslims.

'These men don't get their way without the full support of their women Grey Lady'.

Good point Indiana Homez - case in point - "The Spartan Women": a play about the Peloponnesian Wars in Ancient Greece. The Spartans and Athenians had been fighting for 10 or so years, the women were stuck at home, on their own, with the crops and the kids and they were sick of the burden while the men were wandering around with their soldier pals. The Athenian and Spartian women got together and decided to kick the men out of their beds until they stopped the war. The war ended, quite promptly.

I do not want to hear any minority jokes about the necessity of women in Ancient Greek culture; Dutit is vastly over emphasized in modern thought since most people joking about the Ancient Greeks have never read a Primary source (Euripides, Sophocles, Homer, Herodotus etc.).

Gert is of the old school type Dutchman - the kind of man who would have sabotaged the war materials produced in slave factories during the Nazi occupation days. In spite of the FACT that the Nazi's shot slave labourers (Dutch citizens forced to work for the occupiers) every day, at random, for sabotage, the sabotage continued. The Dutch prisoners knew, every day when they went in to slave for the conquerers, that they could be shot at the end of the day. I got my information from a Primary source, btw.

The important question is: why are the Muslims a 'problem' in Christian countries? What are they doing in Christian countries in the first place, they should not even want to live with us. Perhaps the answer lies within our own political systems; why do we allow them into the secular law system with their religious beliefs?

Gert Wilder explains this situation with clarity. He is a very important man because he combines bravery with intelligence - he is Holland's William Wallace, IMO.

I saw Gert on Glenn Beck, has he ever been on any other media in North America? Britain, in another 'Chamberlain moment' would not allow Gert to enter their county. GB would rather have tire burners and murderers from the ME -GB has some Yellow Dogs in control of the gument; Mr. Churchill would have welcomed such a man.

For anyone that wants a little different outlook regarding Muslims you should tune into the Doha Debates on BBC TV on Sundays. You can watch them as well on youtube.

Doha Debates are a treat to watch compared to anything you watch here in North America, an unbiased moderator and the audience gets to vote at the end.

I wonder how long it would take for the moralistic left over here to start stacking the audience?

Dear T:

Refer to the following website:

http://www.bloggernews.net/18886

"102,876,651 Muslims in the countries listed still find suicide bombing an acceptable option."

Those countries? Lebanon, Bangladesh, Pakistan, Jordan, Indonesia, Tanzania, Nigeria, Turkey only. No mention is made of Syria, Saudi Arabia, Yemen, Oman, Bahrain, UAE, Egypt, Tunisia, Libya, Morocco, Mauritania, Iraq, Iran, Afghanistan, etc, etc, etc., nor, you'll notice the undisputed champs of suicide bombing, the Palestinians.

"Few Muslims who believe suicide bombings are acceptable in the abstract will act on those beliefs. However, if only 5% acted, there would be over 5,143,832 suicide bombings." --- "The truth is that while the percentages involved might be small, the actual numbers are significant, especially considering the damage 19 people (9/11/2001) or even 4 people (7/7/2005) can do."

Small number, huh, T?

"In May, 2007, Pew reported that “by nearly two-to-one (63%-32%) Muslim Americans do not see a conflict between being a devout Muslim and living in a modern society.” The Associated Press spun the headline furiously, trying to find an acceptable angle to present the information that approximately 752,000 Muslims in America did see a conflict between their faith and modern society. Buried in this Pew survey on Muslim Americans on page 54, it states that a mere 5% of Muslims in the United States express a favorable opinion of al Qaeda. However, there are 2.35 million Muslims in the US, so that means 117,500 Muslims in the United States have a favorable opinion of al Qaeda."

Nothing to worry about here, eh T? It only takes is 4 people, after all.

Bring back Dubya.

Dear T

Most Muslims are not terrorists, however, most terrorists are Mualims! Fact

I don't blame Muslims for the mess in Europe, I place the blame on the political left who have destroyed the foundations of their nations hoping to replace an advanced society with a medieval one for greed and power. Muslims have as much to lose via their freedoms and liberty as the infidel, when the political left are done persecuting non-Muslims they'll go after progressive Muslims who don't want to live under Sharia Law. Muslims and non-Liberals infidels need to unite, together we can defeat the Modern Liberal movement and their demented utopian agenda founded on the principles of stuck on stupid loopy logic.

Nicely stated, Rose!

I'm Geert Wilders
"T for taqqiya"
Bingo!

From Daniel Pipe's article:

"That Islamic challenge consists of two components: on the one hand, an indigenous population’s withering Christian faith, inadequate birthrate and cultural diffidence [all related], and on the other an influx of devout, prolific and culturally assertive Muslim immigrants. This fast-moving situation raises profound questions about Europe: Will it retain its historic civilization or become a majority-Muslim continent living under Islamic law?"

Bingo: " ... an indigenous population’s withering Christian faith ... Will [Europe] retain its historic civilization ...?"

The 64-thousand dollar question.

Couple Rose's assertion that the political left is to blame for "destroy[ing] the foundations of their nations hoping to replace an advanced society with a medieval one for greed and power" with Christians' non-assertion of their faith and that of their forebears and you arrive at the situation we now find in Europe: Suicide.

People are really blind about the danger of Islam. Islam is inherently anti-democratic and is hostile to the individual liberties sustained by western democracies. What people just can't seem to understand is that Islam does not think in terms of any separation between religion and state. For Islam, life is one. If you are not of the faith, then you don't deserve the same rights and freedoms as the true believers. But it's probably futile to say all of this to people like T. He actually thinks that Muslims will continue to move to Canada and the U.S.A. and help us build a vibrant democracy. Truth is they will use our democracy to undermine our civil structures. If you haven't studied Islam, this may seem quite far-fetched to you. However, all you need to do is get some audio files of your local imam and you'll know all you need to know. Remember this fact: all terrorists in the modern world are Muslims. There are no Christian terrorists in the world. Wake up!

Geert is a bit of a nut job. That said, any guy who can tick off that many Muslims for just words, any guy who could annoy that many libreals and yet actually have a point has to be worthy of freedom for sure. I wont buy into all his nonsense, but on the fact that libreal democracies should tell Muslims to either accept our laws or move along is DEAD on the money.

As for the terrorism and Islam? Last I looked, every attempt since 9-11 against the west was by Muslims. I guess that old idea that the worst terrorists were the Irish has died a hard death. The last time I saw, they only blew up other Irish and the English. Islam radicals want to change the west to suit their purposes because Islam has destroyed for the most part any chance of building a modern society in the Middle East. So come here..and take ours? No thanks. Any more libreal stupidity, and every country will have a Geert...

Posted by: Kathy Shaidle
// That's true, T, but... all terrorists are Muslims! //
FBI -- Terrorist Attacks on U.S. Soil by Group, From 1980 to 2005
Islamist -- 6 percent
EUROPOL--Terrorism Situation & Trend Report 2009
2008 Number of failed, foiled or successful attacks Islamist 1 Separatist 397.... Total 515