Back Off, Or the African Gets It

"He, Harrabin, and all the rest of the motley crew should be run out of town, replaced with some real journalists and real scientists, who have the skill and courage to do their jobs properly."

I wonder if we'll ever see the day our Canadian MSM have the courage to say the same.

"The evidence is hugely for there being substantial climate change due to man's activities and if you want to argue against that case you have to produce some evidence," he said.

There is no evidence of substantial global warming, there is no evidence of a human link to climate change, and the Skeptics represent the status quo which means the onus is on those who would change the status quo, that would be the Climate Crisis Crew, to produce the evidence that a change in the status quo, our way of life, is necessary.

To date, they have produced no evidence that a change in our lifestyle is necessary.

All the Skeptics have to do is sit back and poke holes in the Climate Crisis Crew's attempts to promote a crisis based on lies and more lies.

We Skeptics don't need to prove anything except that the AGW theorists haven't any proof.

"Russian roulette with the planet".

I believe that someone from the Pirate CRU, was playing "Russian web server with the planet".

From the "Russian server" we learned that a gaggle of scientists were in collusion to skew data and systematically attempted to obstruct the sceptics.

AGW or climate change or the catch phrase du jour theory is precisely in question. The harum scarum phrases of 'we are all gonna die' demagogery are not going to work. So fess up and clean up your act or we cancel your research grant 'shakedown show'...

You say climate change, we say BS prove your assertions with scientifically vetted data.
Your data manipulations have called your theory into question. You may now start your data collection over again...people will be testing your data rigorously instead of blindly accepting your unproven claims and wild IPCC out of thin air assertions.

Have a nice day!

Cheers

Hans-Christian Georg Rupprecht, Commander in Chief

1st Saint Nicolaas Army
Army Group “True North

Um, "The evidence is hugely for there being substantial global endangerment due to lefto-fascist's activities and if you want to argue against that case you have to produce some evidence,"

The evidence is hugely for AGW supporter being congenital liars who want to destroy Western Civilization and pillage it's wealth to enrich a small number of elites while pretending to help developing nations, and if you want to argue against that case you have to produce some evidence.

Gee, this line of "reasoning" can be entertaining.

Maybe it is time for a new Comedy Central show . . "Laugh Along with Climate Scientology"

Special guest appearance for the inaugural episode can be Al Gore & his Mockumentaty.

And you all thought Harry Reid had the intelligence and nerve of a canal horse.
HI MOM !!!

RESIST THE NEW WORLD ORDER

“I have had it. Farewell.”
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"Scientist quits: ‘I don’t want to remain a member of an organization that …screws up science that badly.’
12 02 2010

From the Dr. Roger Pielke Sr. blog:

Henk Tennekes Resigns from Dutch Academy

Henk Tennekes is well known to the visitors of our website. A few days ago, he told me that he submitted a letter of resignation to the Royal Netherlands Academy of Arts and Sciences on Saturday, January 23. He wrote to me “I don’t want to remain a member of an organization that, like AMS and NAS, screws up science that badly.” The Dutch newspaper NRC-Handelsblad apparently got hold of a copy of the resignation letter and ran a News Flash on Saturday, January 30. In the letter to the Academy, Henk complains that he submitted the manuscript of his essay on Hermetic Jargon (which I am happy to reproduce here below, with his permission) to the Academy President at that time, Frits van Oostrom. The President, however, did not bother to respond. The NRC news flash, translated by Henk himself at my request, reads:

Tennekes Quits

By Karel Knip

“I have had it. Farewell.” With these words Henk Tennekes concludes his final letter to the Executive Board of the Royal Netherlands Academy of Arts and Sciences. He wrote his letter of resignation on January 23. A unique occurrence in the history of the Academy, which obtains its membership by co-optation. Normally, a member of the Academy loses his membership only when he dies. Tennekes is still alive."

http://wattsupwiththat.com/2010/02/12/scientist-i-don%E2%80%99t-want-to-remain-a-member-of-an-organization-that-screws-up-science-that-badly/#more-16353

Red-Green/socialists' AGW Fraud at war: notice the words, "to mobilize", "battle", etc.
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"UN panel to mobilize climate change funding (and you thought the UN's main mission was Peace)

UNITED NATIONS (AFP) – UN chief Ban Ki-moon set up a high-level advisory panel Friday to mobilize funding to help developing nations battle climate change.

The panel, to be led by Britain's Prime Minister Gordon Brown and his Ethiopian counterpart Meles Zenawi, aimed "to mobilize the resources for climate change pledged at the recent climate change conference in Copenhagen," Ban told reporters."
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2449988/posts

"We Skeptics don't need to prove anything except that the AGW theorists haven't any proof."

Nor have you. Constant repetition is fine for a PR campaign in politics. And according to opinion polls, it has had some success.

But there is a reality here that you Objectivists should not forget. The planet is supremely indifferent to swiftboating success & the science will continue.
Go on -- take a bite of the apple --
http://rabett.blogspot.com/2010/02/hot-water-and-air_11.html

dizzy: You have a profound misunderstanding of the scientific process, and most likely didn't even read the EUR essay.

It is the responsibility of those proposing that AGW is real, and that it is catostrophic, to prove their point using imperical evidence. It is the job of all others, to delve into the supposed "proof" presented and either replicate it, thereby supporting it, or find fault with it. Nowhere, ever, do those who challenge or deconstruct a theory have to offer an alternative; they only need destroy that which has been offered. True science is a brutal process, where only the best ideas survive.

Science works that way, always. If a pharma company offers up a "cure", it's the job of its competitors, or regulatory agencies, or interested scientists to test the theory ... not offer up an alternative cure.

Clearly, the IPCC understood this principle, so it circumvented it whereby criticism was marginalized using politics, not scientific arguement; and worse yet, clear trickery was used to produce misleading "made for the public" drivel.

The AGW theory is just a theory which as yet has not stood up to the test of scientific scrutiny ... and worse yet, it is a theory that has stood this long only because it enjoyed political protection and manipulation.

Now that the theory is come into disrepute, true science may once again apply its merciless method to test the theory and then, and only then, will we be able to know how much cred it has.

Another stunned Brit. And he doesn't even work
for the Beeb. He isn't aware that at Copenhagen,
the Africans whom the bien-pensants are so busy
saving, actually SHOWED UP and demanded a BIG slice
of the pie.

Even for the climate-weenies, taxing the Hell out of Canada,
the US, and the EU to buy modern weapons for the Janjaweed was a bit much.

Sorry little Brit. Go back in your hole for another six weeks.

AG'sWeather (AGW): Ahm # One, and Ahm not from Texas.
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"Snowfall Shatters Record, Leaves 180,000 Without Power - (IN DALLAS, TX!!)

Large, fluffy snowflakes fell heavily across North Texas for about 24 hours Thursday, bringing record snowfall that sailed past the previous all-time one-day record.

A new record of 12.5 inches of snow in a 24-hour period was set at Dallas/Fort Worth International Airport (11.2 on Thursday) -- and flakes were still coming down after midnight. The previous daily record was 7.8 inches on Jan. 15, 1964, and Jan. 14, 1917 and the previous 24-hour record was 12.1 inches. The total for this winter, so far, is 15.7 inches, the second highest recorded in North Texas history. The highest recorded snowfall for a winter season was in 1977-78 with 17.6 inches of snow."

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2450038/posts

Now that the theory is come into disrepute, true science may once again apply its merciless method to test the theory and then, and only then, will we be able to know how much cred it has.
~Cjunk

AGW theory has zero credibility.
The proponents of it have spent 20 years and $billions and yet have zero proof to support their "theory".

If there were any real proof they would not have had to resort to lies and subterfuge when they have governments, 20 years, and Billions of dollars on their side.

Yep, the AGW skeptics are only required to prove that any part of the data, methods and conclusions of the AGW theory are faulty. To do that, the AGW scientists should have ensured all data, methods and sources were made available. The refusal to do so should have set off warning bells. Then, before any real debate, stating that "the science is settled" and intimidating "deniers" should have been the equivalent of air raid sirens.

FYI, other theories have been put forward as alternatives to GHG's but are either still in development or were dismissed by the peer-reviewed process. Since the peer review process was shown to be perverted by AGWers, these other theories may need to be looked at again. Sunspots, Cosmic Rays, Cloud cover etc. I doubt those research areas will be as well funded because there are no opportunities for trading markets and new taxes.

The UK weather establishment are so far into denial, they won't even update the January mean temperature on the CET website. Everyone knows it will come in around 1.4 C, almost three degrees below the recent 30-year averages. They usually update these figures on the first or second of the month, but this time, they appear to be waiting for the event to fade into obscurity.

More to the point, the IPCC and AGW lobby have been playing Russian roulette with the global economy. I blame them for at least half of the economic downturn because of the dislocations to the global economic structure imposed by their make-believe economic paradigms. They were partly responsible for the spike in oil prices which was largely responsible for the U.S. recession (by forcing commuters out of their homes or to default on other payments to stay in their homes and cars).

The situation right now is ridiculous, we have a largely discredited scientific theory but those who promote it are not turfed out of their positions, the skeptics are not placed in charge, and it's rather like the so-called "fall of communism" which has so far taken us all the way from Andropov to Putin (a rather small distance, more caviar basically).

If they want to place an adult in charge of Environment Canada, I am at the other end of this e-mail address:

realpieceofwork@yahoo.ca

and I won't even charge them what the nut-cases who run the place now charge the government for screwing up science on a national scale. Or maybe the UK would like an adult in charge. Same address, takes about nine hours for me to get there and a month to clean the stables.

I've got a clue, and now I would like a job in the science that I understand.

AlGW says, When Ahm in Rome, Ah always do what the Romans do: When the moon hits your eye, like a bigga snowflaka pie, .....
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"Rare snowfall in Rome as cold snap grips Italy"

"Rome was last dusted in snow in 2005, but one meteorologist said the steady snowfall through Friday morning was the heaviest seen in the Italian capital in 24 years.

"It's very exciting. I have been taking pictures of my husband in front of the Colosseum because I thought nobody would believe me if I told them it was snowing in Rome today," said Margaret Jones, a tourist from London.

The ancient Roman forum and the Colosseum were later closed for safety reasons."
http://au.news.yahoo.com/a/-/newshome/6797762/rare-snowfall-in-rome-as-cold-snap-grips-italy/

My posting earlier about Dr Jones at CRU East Anglia(The Great Data Migration) works for Doc Liss too:

"I can imagine the first words of advice a hotshot PR guy would give to these scienticians - er, scientists:

'Shut up. For God's sake, don't open your mouth in public again.'"

These bureaucrats, posing as "scientists" are truly stuck on stupid.....to keep flogging a dead horse.

RESIST THE NEW WORLD ORDER

// dizzy: You have a profound misunderstanding of the scientific process, and most likely didn't even read the EUR essay. ETC //

Nothing profound in your comments.

"The AGW theory is just a theory"
Where have \I heard that phrase before? At least the Creationists do offer an alternative -- God did it?

You are not, I hope, offering eureferendum as a souce of "scientific scrutiny". They are against the EU & any project which involves the cooperation of European states with each other bothers them.
See their present post --

http://eureferendum.blogspot.com/2010/02/pioneers-in-practice.html
"Climate-KIC is the latest of the EU's increasingly expensive "climate change" initiatives, this one intended to bring together Europe's leading academic institutions and business partners to address climate change."

But according to richard north, it is a commie plot. Just like the whole EU.

In anycase, none of these XYZgates test basic climate science.

"In anycase, none of these XYZgates test basic climate science"

I hear supporters of AGW continue to claim how their vast amount of sound science supports the existence of AGW. To date, none of this "sound" science is specifically used to defend AGW.

However, in every case of specific claims I've heard made by AGW "officials" (i.e. drowning polar bears, north pole Carnival cruises, heated hockey sticks, disappearing himalayan glaciers, etc.) those claims have not only been thoroughly debunked but also show the rotten fraudulent political underside to the whole AGW movement.

If sound science actually exists that can address the skepticism present in reasonable people then put it all out there for public review. So far all I've seen is attempts to pass off false statements as fact with an unquestioning AGW community and their fawning press corps. The huge scope of the misinformation fraud perpetrated on everyone is criminally bad and most people are getting it. It's about money and freedom...our money and freedom.

My advice to any self respecting scientist that still thinks there's reason to uncover real skeptic-reviewed substantive proof that there's AGW worthy of honest debate: Take a deep introspective breath and rip your mouth away from the public's teet, walk the streets and raise donations from those likewise concerned and then DO ACTUAL SCIENCE. If at the end of the day, you can't find what you believed was there, be honest about the results and move on. Bad science under the harsh glare of skepticism is exposed. That is what all the fuss is about: Bad Science being used as the path to our pocketbooks.

None so blind as those who will not see.

It is for us to show that their arguments are suspect and riddled with inaccuracies, their data corrupted, lost or destroyed, their findings often not subject to peer review and their sources frequently have been non scientific advocacy groups.

I hear the sound of rivets popping.