Y2Kyoto: What Would We Do Without Forecasters?

Booker is hilarious; jump through to the link to "climate denial deemed mental disorder" for an even funnier piece.

I blame HRH Prince Charles!

once in a blue moon , ha.

http://www.cbc.ca/canada/nova-scotia/story/2010/01/02/ns-maritimes-storm.html

obama promised the seas cease to rise.

THE ASSOCIATED PRESS LONDON - Heavy snowfall and freezing temperatures have led to the cancellation of several sports matches across Britain.

Scotland's football league has been the hardest hit, with frozen pitches leading to the postponement of 16 of 18 matches on Saturday. Three games in England's FA Cup third round have also been cancelled.

Five matches in the Welsh Rugby Union Premiership are off, and the horse racing meeting at Sandown has been postponed.

When footy is canceled you know that even the least perceptive might figure that something is up.

From Breitbart..http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=cp_hhnvu1ohg38&show_article=1

http://denisdutton.com/newsweek_coolingworld.pdf
Click the above link or copy it to your browser and you will see what I mean.I hope the link works.

I am almost . . almost starting to feel pity for the fools & morons that run the UK Met Office.

"The reason the Met Office so persistently gets its seasonal forecasts wrong is that it has been hi-jacked from the role for which we pay it nearly £200 million a year, to become one of the world's major propaganda engines for the belief in man-made global warming. Over the past three years, it has become a laughing stock for forecasts which are invariably wrong in the same direction"

200 Million . . . that's all of pounds of being wrong.

http://tinyurl.com/yhxazln

Solar powered snow-blowers.
The next EU mandate.

Snowfalls are a thing of the past, eh? Could one then please explain the white, fluffy stuff falling outside?
Really, this alarmism nonsense might work on children and adults with no clue about anything but it doesn't work on everyone.

Short Memory Syndrome (SMS) is caused mostly by the MSM. (aka dumb-down-the-news)

Any chance our beloved media would have provided us with this flashback ? Hell freezes.

Short memory syndrome plagues most of us. Because of it, snake oil salesmen have survived for centuries. And the scams just keep on getting more expensive. (aka Al Gore)

SMS is the reason a good financial adviser can be worth their weight in gold. (This time is different, the rally will keep on forever. This time is different, the market will never come back.)

IMO, the biggest reason for SMS is the media. They do not want the masses to remember. Makes it hard for the Elites to control the Peasants.

Read any book of a couple of hundred years ago and it is plain to see the Elites (Kings, Queens, Professors, Clergy and media) conspired to treat the masses like mushrooms - keep them in the dark and feed them shi!.

An informed and semi-wealthy Middle Class spoils their fun. The Internet is a game changer. Watch for an all out assault.

Those guys at Copenhagen didn't waste any time.

As an aside, 'cause I don't know where to ask this, is there a Fox News Canada? A Canadian Fox News?

I'm fed up with the lack of balance in our Canadian news networks.

Certainly illustrates climate change and instability, however, I am confident that the climate change deniers will find a way to explain all of this as well.

Ha, That's nothing. The World Whack-job Fund is running its latest BS propaganda piece.

It features a loser no-name actor narrating the plight of a sow polar bear. It is actually a sow polar bear teaching its cub to hunt on the ice floes but the eco-fascists are using the scene to BS people into thinking bears are in distress.

I'm sure a few left-tards called into max-out their credit cards. The phrase, I believe, is about a fool and his/her money...

Finally, a less egotistical column by Jeffrey Simpson:

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/politics/bloopers-hasty-judgments-and-the-year-that-was/article1417072/

Didn't you folks get the memo?

Warmer winters a decade ago are indicative of global warming/climate change.

Colder winters now is just weather.

Glad to clear that up!

/sarc off

That column by Jeffrey Simpson has ZERO about climategate, he has not changed his spots.

Journalists have warned of climate change for 100 years, but can’t decide weather we face an ice age or warming

It was five years before the turn of the century and major media were warning of disastrous climate change. Page six of The New York Times was headlined with the serious concerns of “geologists.” Only the president at the time wasn’t Bill Clinton; it was Grover Cleveland. And the Times wasn’t warning about global warming – it was telling readers the looming dangers of a new ice age.

The year was 1895, and it was just one of four different time periods in the last 100 years when major print media predicted an impending climate crisis. Each prediction carried its own elements of doom, saying Canada could be “wiped out” or lower crop yields would mean “billions will die.”

We’re still here!

http://www.businessandmedia.org/specialreports/2006/fireandice/fireandice.asp

...but it's a DRY cold ...

To our resident troll, it's called Working As Intended. Put another way: climate change, it's a feature, not a bug.

I've really noticed a lot of poor predictions, this last year. The weather network has done a very poor job in my area, at least. I've never seen so many changes in the forecasts. I used to check the forecast in the evening, to plan my work schedule. Now, I check again, in the morning.

I'm wondering if it's strictly because of recent instability, or because meteorologists are making poor judgement calls, due to their biased view of future weather patterns. There's always a human element to forecasting. If you have certain expectations, I'm sure it has an effect on your ability to analyze data. Sound familiar?

Posted by: chutzpahticular at January 2, 2010 3:20 PM

Your cable or sat company carries Fox News. Think it costs me $4 a month for the package it comes in.

Its minus 16 today on the north shore of Lake Ontario. I know that's balmy to you prairie boys and girls, but around here that's absolutely frigid. I pray for global warming every night.

Your cable or sat company carries Fox News. Think it costs me $4 a month for the package it comes in.
Posted by: AtlanticJim at January 2, 2010 4:22 PM

Yes, I've been happily subscribing to Fox News for the last two years now (through Shaw). Normally you can subscribe to specialty channels a-la-carte for $1.99 per month. But, Fox News maintains an unusual provision that it must be bundled with a second channel. But, I think the 2-channel bundle is only $2.99 or $3.99 per month. I personally bundled up Fox News in their 7-channel bundle which I think is only $7.99 or so per month.

(I still find the 2-channel requirement puzzling, but when Fox News first came to Canada I confirmed this provision was directed by Fox News, not Shaw Cable, through direct correspondence with Fox News).

I'm glad tranio pointed that out, I was close to subjecting myself to that column to see if he was eating his words. He's one of the examples of the sort of stupid smugness that I think of when I consider the Canadian media's death grip on this ridiculous theory.
On a less famous, more ratlike, level, I think of T and his muttering about "climate instability". Yep, global warming to climate change and now, simply, instability. Slowly backing toward the exits...

"once in a blue moon , ha."
I'll take your word for it cal2 otherwise I'd have to chip thru the ice coated snowy crust that is covering my windows. The great "0" must be good to make a nor'easter all the way from Hawaii.

T

"Certainly illustrates climate change and instability, however, I am confident that the climate change deniers will find a way to explain all of this as well."

climate change DENIERS????

we question cause and effect, we do not deny natural climate change, try keeping up with the program will ya!!!!

Ok, we were way off on the no more snowfalls in Britain, but we're bang on re: climate change & instability. Really, we are!!

Stuck on "stupid"...

another theory first posited in 1991 that was rejected outright and labeled irresponsible by the co2 gang:

solar magnetism, cosmic rays, clouds and climate - 1st of 6 parts at youtube - subtitles in english when necessary. 58 minutes and interesting enough to watch it all.

http://www.youtube.com/v/dKoUwttE0BA

Solar powered snowblowers...heh!

Going to be a run on storm windows and water pumps in Britain this winter. Nobody has storms over there, just single pane sash windows.

The pumps are for when all the 200 year old Victorian water mains break and flood every basement in London. Cooooold weather baby. Does amazing things.

actually the blue moon was dec 31, its a waning moon now.
a blue moon and a partial lunar eclipse on the last day of the year.
blue moons only occur every 2.7 years.

John Stossel: Global Warming Debate - Well worth watching!

"Certainly illustrates climate change and instability, however, I am confident that the climate change deniers will find a way to explain all of this as well."

Since the climate has aways changed, a climate change denier would be one who insists that the climate remain static, that would be a person like you T. So tell us T,how do you explain it?

T:

Could you please enlighten us, o wise one?

Name a time in the history of the earth when the climate did NOT change.

dp@ 4:20:

The main reason, I think, is because a) unless you live in the GTA, TWN doesn't pay much attention to the forecast (it's all about advertising dollars), and b) most TWN forecasters are young, inexperienced model-gazers--that is, "forecasters" who accept the forecast model output as given without thinking about the meteorological principles involved and rejecting obviously bad solutions.

(Insider information because I have a friend who's a met at TWN.)

This is going to be a hell of a thing because as I recall the Brits (who accept perennial sunless skies and drizzle as a fact of life - I lived there once; sometimes I dream of grey and wake up screaming) react to an inch of snow as if it were the ice storm in The Ice Storm (never saw it; assume it featured an ice storm). The highways aren't safe! Don't leave the house! - etc.

Invest in U.K. shovel stocks. Salt. Trauma councellors. Do it now!

"is there a Fox News Canada? A Canadian Fox News? "

Why need it, they didn't even cover the 4 Canadian soldiers and Calgary Herald reporter in Afghanistan.

Environment Canada has the Top 10 Weather Stories of 2009 up on its website at:
http://www.ec.gc.ca/meteo-weather/default.asp?lang=En&n=645A8F9C-1

They are saying...wait for it...It was a WARM year for Canada...the 13th in a row.
Now seeing that a good portion of the Ontario corn crop is still sitting out in the fields freeze drying because we didn't get enough HEAT this summer for it to mature I call BULLSH*T.

Black Mamba said "the Brits (who accept perennial sunless skies and drizzle as a fact of life...".

You've described summer in Ayreshire perfectly.

Im looking for the story but the MSM already reported the years weather at the beginning of December saying it was on track to be the warmest year ever, neglecting the possibility that December which had not been calculated in, might be cold. Which is was in both the north and southern hemispheres.

they had it pegged before it started. talk about data manipulation.

http://uk.reuters.com/article/idUKTRE4BT49G20081230

Posted by: john brooks at January 2, 2010 7:39 PM

Because Canadian broadcasters cover every US serviceman or woman that is killed in action right?

Why should Fox cover it?

The arrogance of my fellow countrymen can be utterly breath taking at times.

The link I gave in my post earlier at 2.06 PM is no longer valid. It was to a copy of the famous Newsweek article in 1975 entitled “The Cooling World”. I will have to settle for cutting and pasting selected quotes.
“There are ominous signs that the Earth’s weather patterns have begun to change dramatically and that these changes may portend a drastic decline in food production– with serious political implications for just about every nation on Earth”
“The evidence in support of these predictions has now begun to accumulate so massively that meteorologists are hard pressed to keep up with it. But the scientists see few signs that government leaders anywhere are even prepared to take the simple measures of stockpiling food or of introducing the variables of climatic uncertainty into economic projections of future food supplies.”
“The longer the planners delay the more difficult will they find it to cope with climatic change once the results become grim reality. But the scientists see few signs that government leaders anywhere are even prepared to take the simple measures of stockpiling food or of introducing the variables of climatic uncertainty into economic projections of future food supplies. “

I see they were just as quick and adept at scare mongering as they are now.

IMO wanting to stop the climate from "changing" is likely a better candidate for a mental health disorder. Got that T?

"Scotland's football league has been the hardest hit, with frozen pitches leading to the postponement of 16 of 18 matches on Saturday. Three games in England's FA Cup third round have also been cancelled."

Another good old fashioned N.American word usurped by euro-pu$$ies. The fact that they must cancel a so called "football" game because of poor weather should be proof enough that they are playing Soccer, not Football. Football is played on the "Frozen tundra" in November and December, not on a "pitch"!

"I'm wondering if it's strictly because of recent instability, or because meteorologists are making poor judgement calls,"

dp

Or perhaps they're simply trying to clear the golf course for a good Tee-time as Larry David mused.

Thanks for the link Robert W.

My wife got a new polar bear in WOW and named it AlGore.

The Internet is a game changer. Watch for an all out assault.

Ron

I’ve been thinking about this for sometime. This is a can of worm that can only be opened if there is a political “consensus” because any move against the internet will awake the “pock-faced monsters” from their slumber in their mother basements. I believe that those PFM’s will be the saviours of free-speech going forward. Look for the political “consensus”, once something is “settled” politically the fight becomes much more difficult. That being said, comparing the genius and ingenuity of the PFM’s vs those that would muzzle us is like “ a candle in the sun; that isht don’t even out.”

“Yeah you shinnin but the only thing you’re leavin out. You’re a candle in the sun, that isht don’t even out.”-Jaz-Z

There is so much confusion regarding global warming in this thread. No wonder. The concepts are difficult for most to grasp.

Consider the following logic..

If GW keeps up at this pace we could all freeze to death.

Convoluted, but sound logic all the same.

Still confused?

Sorry about the comments on the new website. Its fixed now.

gord @7:50 - and winter, autumn, most of spring (shudder)...