The World Is Being Run By Crazy People

I'm allergic to Jihadists.

Where do I file papers to sue?

"What people need to know is that this is not over the top. There are real reasons when you're 35,000 feet in the air and you have the kind of medical condition that can come on incredibly rapidly...

Usually this means you shouldn't be flying. At least it used to.

put the fatties , nuts and jihadists on their own plane.
that'll solve a lot of problems.

this just in...

two muslim extremists from Detroit caught boarding Air Canada jet in Windsor....one was apprehended with two coconuts in his underpants...the other a whopping 6 lbs of Acorns(ironically enough)...

this type of attempted hijackings is giving a whole new meaning to the word 'nutsack'...

we're doomed i tell you...doomed.

Does this mean Air Canada will no longer be flying out of Pearson?

Syncro

My fiancee is a nanny for kids with severe fatal nut allergies, so I have _some_ sympathy for the plaintiffs here. But completely independent of the moral and legal aspects of this case (for the record, yes I think this is stupid), there's a very strong _practical_ reason for not doing this: it simply isn't possible to protect someone with a fatal allergy with _legislation_.

Kids that grow up going to guaranteed nut-free schools and being ferried around in hermetically sealed school buses their entire childhood never learn the necessary paranoia that will keep them alive when (not if, _when_) they do accidentally come in contact with nut oils. No, it isn't fair that they have to be paranoid their entire lives, but it's better than the alternative.

Here's a thought - if you're allergic to something, don't eat it. Here's another - if you're not sure if food is something-free, don't eat it.

Kathryn, leftists are not responsible for themselves, we are, 'collectively'. Nuts demanding nut free zones. I tell ya.

I'm sure that in true "customer service oriented" fashion Air Canada will simply stop servicing food altogether on their flights.

MSG elevates all alergies. I am quietly anticipating times when people will finally learn of that it is doing to them and take pitchforks to the manufacturers.

I can think of a few other places I'd like to see Lizzie May banned. Parliament and the Senate, for one!

Anybody have shares in the airline industry? I'm sure they're having a great time right now

" ...My fiancee is a nanny for kids with severe fatal nut allergies ...

Kids that grow up going to guaranteed nut-free schools ..."

... and recently it has been found that many children who have nut allergies , may actually outgrow them if exposed to low levels of peanuts.

It makes sense in a way , because if you grow up with no exposure to bacteria , virus and other toxins , you have no immunity , so when you contact something for which you have no immunity , expect bad results.

Simple solution for Air Canada. When a customer notifies that they are allergic to nuts, buy them a bus ticket.

Apparently a whopping 11 died last year from food allergy in North American...Apparently more have died from lawnmower incidents.

"we're doomed i tell you...doomed."
John Begley

YES WE ARE!

Like I said on the MET post, we are living in the new dark ages where a renaissance (Rebirth) is badly needed now = REVOLUTION.

For your comfort and convenience, the cabin attendants will be serving you nothing.

Don't forget the Air Canada slogan:

At Air Canada, we're not happy....

until YOU'RE not happy!

Makes sense to me, but do they make zip-loc bags big enough for nutty(free) passengers?

I guess this makes my packet of peanut butter a banned weapon on flights now.

Doug @ 12:46 "At Air Canada, we're not happy....

until YOU'RE not happy!"

The sad part is that most likely the scumbags will force WestJet to follow the Commissariat diktats.

When I first ran into this while working at a school some years ago, I was as unsympathetic as the majority of you are. It was, "Let your kid leave the cookies alone then."

Then I saw someone have an anaphylactic reaction.

You will survive a flight without nuts; the person with the allergy won't, or will become very ill.

There's mighty little empathy on this site at times. The needs of others seems to bring out the beast in a lot of you.

Not putting a curse on any of you, but I can picture one of you on your next flight choking on a piece of food and requiring the heimlich manouvre, with no one available.

Have you ever seen that? That's not pretty either.

gellen, you are a moron. And I say to you as a moron: welcome to the Earth. It's full of dangers.

Don't screw up my life because you have a problem with nuts.

What about people who are deathly allergic to mushrooms? Do we see them forcing us to NEVER eat pizza?

Now go swallow a cashew.

//Don't screw up my life because you have a problem with nuts.//

Your life is screwed up if you don't have nuts?

Gellen, welcome to my world. You called it lack of empathy, I call it cruelty.

See, you are now pronounced a moron. There we go.

Like the sign I saw on a table where 2 people were eating at a community breakfast, "This table is nut free". Nut Free? Not likely.

Just seat me in the sushi-free zone.

How about a child free zone on planes too?

Gellen...

my dog performs the Hindlick maneouvre every day...sometimes 3 or 4 times a day,,,

and you're right....it is NOT pretty....it's fecking disgusting it is...

aaron

Everyone gets ripped here sometimes, so as Ash said " That's it, go ahead and run. Run home and cry to mama!"

gellen

I see your point. That said, the politically correct response to peanut allergies has been to remove a very health part of lunches for decades from the school lunch room to protect a small minority, that healthy lunch being peanutbutter sandwiches.

From the people that brought us "you're a loser if you win, so we'll ban sports and competition then wonder why your kids are fat and lazy” and who brought us "some of your kids are fat so we'll ban soda for everyone" have now banned peanutbutter. A healthy energy packed lunch that KIDS LOVE! Why? To assuage the feelings of the parents whose kids have peanut allergies. Why do I say " To assuage the feelings of the parents whose kids have peanut allergies"? Simply because schools can easily have a “peanut free” lunch room for kids that can't be trusted to lookout for themselves. The all encompassing “peanut ban” is to protect the anti-peanut parents feelings, and their kids self esteem. It’s simple leftarded politics. Period!

See, Homez, it's not that we are upset - we are just raising eyebrows like looking at the antics of a 4 year old kid.

As for my MSG obsession - see, I am FINE. I've changed a few things here and there, sacrificed something, tweaked something else and the result is I live a happy healthy life.

It's you folks who are in trouble, that's the funniest thing. I can shut up just as well - 'who the f4ck cares about others', isn't that the motto of SDA anyway?

Tenebris thought I was whining... What a dork!

I think Air Canada will let you take your dog into the passenger cabin now. Airbourne dog dander seems a more likely allergy for someone than airbourne peanut shells.

aaron

I don't have a problem with your POV, I'm just breaking you ballz a bit. You seem to be a little high-strung, but at least you're not a goof like me.

All Jihadists have to do is wait;

our leaders are destroying Western Civilization from within.

We will die by a thousand liberal inflicted cuts...

btw,

It's been my observation that sda commenter’s are very empathetic, just not to the politically correct victims. It seems to me sda commenter’s are very empathetic towards frozen babies, but not towards the father that took them outside to die. Empathetic towards Israeli's that live under the constant threat of missile attack, but not towards those that lob said missiles. Empathetic towards oppressed women in Muslim countries, not towards enemy combatants that ambush and murder allied medics after surrendering. And lest I forget that sda commenter’s seem to be empathetic towards victims of child rape, but not towards the pedophiles that commit such heinous crimes; just to give a few examples.

Yes, it is as I say, sda readers and commenter’s are empathetic towards babies, Israeli's, brown women and child rape victims; all of which are not worthy of empathy, minus lip service, from the political and social left.

Gellen, I've seen an anaphylactic reaction all right. I've seen a four-year-old girl with severe asthma have an anaphylactic reaction panicking so badly my fiancee had to hold her down with arm and stab her in the leg with an epi-pen with the other.

And you know what? As much sympathy as I have for that little girl, I _still_ don't think this is the right solution. It is not reasonable to expect everyone else to curtail their lives because a tiny fraction of people have problems with a common substance, just like it's not reasonable to address your hypothetical Heimlich maneuver situation by requiring every single passenger to take two hours of CPR training before boarding any and every flight.

We don't mask the windows in taxis and buses just in case someone with porphyria might get on. We don't require everyone to speak in a whisper just in case someone prone to migraines is nearby. These people can be accommodated by alternate transportation, or private chartered flights, or asking for a seat far from other passengers on a nearly empty flight.

"These people can be accommodated by alternate transportation, or private chartered flights, or asking for a seat far from other passengers on a nearly empty flight."

...or they can goddamn well stay home!

I'm with aaron and gellen here

if there is ONE, I say,just ONE muslim in the country, ALL toilets should be reinstalled so they don't face east!!!!/sarc

And again, GYM, it went totally above your head.

If it was a personal fault, a lifestyle choice of the nut-allergic persons, that they have gotten their allergies, I would not have given a flying f4ck about their ailment.

But I find it highly unethical, that it is legal for food industry to poison generation after generation until there is sizeable % of population with sensitivity to this and that naturally occurring substance.

If we allowed creation of this condition (and that's indisputable - nut allergy is a thing of the last 50 years, just since free processed glutamic acid entered food supply), then we have to compensate the victims.

The opponents of homeopathy like using ridiculous argument against it: that its usefulness was not proven in a double blind study. They ignore the fact that every person is unique and has a unique condition. I would like to use the same kind of argument: if there are expressed concerns about use of MSG in food, why don't we conduct a double blind test and stop using MSG for 5 full years to see how that affects mortality and morbidity of the country?

Daniel: My claim of sda lack of empathy and the tongue-in-cheek 'curse' I placed has nothing to do with a real case requiring Heimlich maneuver.

I know what I said to the mother when she called to inform the school through me. Believe me, I was anything but empathetic and I regret taking it so lightly.

Back in those days we were a very unsympathetic lot.

Edward Teach: Telling them to stay home means I'll have to put a curse on you. May you be stung by a dozen wasps and swell up and choke to death. (My husband almost did during his first anaphylactic shock after a wasp sting so I know what it will be like.)

We used to have bees...stings don't bother me.
Tell ya what: We'll make up a nice shipping container...they can fly in the hold.

Air Canada stopped serving peanuts years ago. Surely the severe cases will all carry epi pens with them and Im sure air crew will know how to use them. I assume that all food served is nut free. Why do they have to do more?

Edward Teach: Not bees. Wasps.

You will never know what might send you into anaphylactic shock. Just pray you (or someone) has an EpiPen. And that you're not on an airplane.
It's seconds, not minutes, and certainly not hours.

People who never buried their children will not understand.

Aaron: "People who never buried their children will not understand."

Maybe not. But I take every step to make sure my children will bury me first. None of the steps include a reliance on a government mushing bananas for me or my family.

As an ER physician, not all anaphylaxic reactions respond simply to an epi pen. This is a seriour but rare condition(to be so allergic to nuts that simply touching them produces throat swelling). Not much scares me more than a young person's throat closing in front of me while we desperately try and put a tube down their throat or have to cut a hole in their neck to help them breath. Some of you should be ashamed for mocking that.

That being said I fail to see how any airline or transportation provider can fully protect people from the millions of different disorders they may succomb to. I sugest that it is in the passenger's best interest to inform the flight attendent who can ask other passengers to not partake of nuts close to said person. That's the best anyone can do really. This ruling approaches silliness.

People with medical conditions who are mature, take risks as best they feel comfortable with. As fellow humans we can only accomodate them as best we can, but we are not all responsible.

langman, I ran into one of those extremely peanut allergic patients as an intern. It was a close thing as the ER doc was asking me how I would do a tracheostomy and while I was frantically trying to recall the details of the one tracheostomy I'd assisted at he managed to get the ET tube in. That's the only person I've seen with this severe a peanut allergy over the last 20 years and most of my colleagues have never seen such a case.

To penalize the 99.9999% of the population who don't have a severe peanut allergy is totally asinine. It is up to the person with the severe peanut allergy to deal with it and I'm sure they can be desensitized. Medical care is free in this country and, if they can't be desensitized, they should be put into a protective suit before being seated on a plane.

Based on what I've seen in patients, I'd guess that 75% or more of "severe allergies" are bogus. Most of these "allergies" are personal linkages of viral gastroenteritis, or some other illness, with a concommitantly ingested food or drug. The only way to tell if someone is allergic is to rechallenge them with the putative allergen and, based on conversations with allergists who are called in to deal with "penicillin allergies" in hospitalized patients who need to be treated with penicillin/cephalosporins, generally there is no reaction to penicillin in these "allergic" patients.

I'm allergic to statists and their brainless goons - does this mean I can bypass airport security? I'd rather do this than take 5 mg of olanzapine 1 hour before going through security so I don't do something unprofessional like pounding the crap out of some minimum wage statist robot.

Aaron, unless you happen to have ectopic glutamate receptors in your esophageal and gastric mucosa and a non-functional blood-brain barrier, you CAN'T react to glutamate. Glutamate is one of the most common amino acids in protein and if you take hydrolyzed whey protein and toss in a pinch of salt, you've got a high level of "MSG". If MSG is so bad, why do all humans have a specific tongue taste receptor for glutamate (or MSG if you can't create the linkage between glutamate and MSG)?

In Edmonton one letter from a frenzied Mom (Yenta as Mark Levin says) to the crazy Mayor & bam. 35,000 foot ball fans cannot eat any peanuts.
The kid still never went to a football game.
The World for good or bad reasons. Are full of dogs in the manger. Since when did we vote to have them compel us to do their various wills?

@ loki,

As usual agree with you 100%. I have seen a couple of these rare reactions and not been very happy about it. I am still young. For the most part it's like a lot of what we do - protect society from rare diseases like tetanus while sanitation makes common things usually benign.

As an aside, one of these days we should get together and write a book about the way we hid our libertarian ways to blend in with what the organizations tell us modern medical persons should think... nah we should just get a drink.

I particularly like your description of how you got in as it reflected mine.

Will Suzuki have to take the train too?

There is science out there that says that you must ingest the peanut enzyme's. Touching or smelling them have no effect. See junk food blog. Read all about it. Nut free zones is more junk science. It's impossible to have a true re-action without ingesting the enzyme's period. Thats what cause's the re-action.