In Conversation With Tom Friedman's House, A Continuing Series ....

From the article: "a market, shaped by regulations and incentives to stimulate massive innovation"

If it's shaped by regulations and "incentives", it's not a market. The free economy is supposed to cater to consumer demands, not the whims of politicians.

It's funny how the villain always feels compelled to reveal his diabolical plan in the movies too.

2nd last paragraph:
" Even if the world never warms another degree, population is projected to rise from 6.7 billion to 9 billion between now and 2050"

Scrooge had plans for the excess population too.
Merry Christmas everyone!

I guess the warmist climate fanatics figure they need more lebensraum.
So the little people must go.
A World of half a Billion for the Utopians.
Thats the goal no matter what the lies.
Its a grand scam for human suicide. But than has Socialism dealt in anything but massive death?
JMO

one of the notable phenomena of the black plague of the 13 century was high inflation. The reduction of population by 25 to 30% made everyone richer. If you had one pair of lederhosen, you now had two.

the lefties still prefer to get something for free off the backs of the poor.

Scrooge was a conservative. I mean, he was bleet's idea of a conservative, and he was nearly damned for all eternity and all that, but I hardly think he deserves to be compared to Thomas Friedman.

Scrooge walked the walk. He didn't live in a mansion - or maybe he did, I don't remember; but if he did I'm sure it was dark and cold - and he didn't have a swimming pool or waste energy (no extra candles for Bob Cratchit. No extra candles for anyone). Enough Scrooge-bashing, people.

When it comes to "excess population", it's famously wonderful brilliant progressives who get the really big ideas.

cal2 - would you steal lederhosen off a dead guy? Who died of the bubonic plague?

I dunno, just seems kinda gross.

anyone who was there.

remember microbes and their effects werent discovered for centuries after this.

they tried to prevent infection by stuffing your pockets with flowers.

the "ring around the rosie" song is a "tribute " to the plague.

Plundering a grave for Prada? I'd think about it. But bubonic lederhosen?

Notice how these useless pieces of skin don't have a comments section??
Black Mamba....cal2 is correct...the litle kiddies poem ring around the roses was about the bubonic plague....or are you saying it didn't happen??

I'm no plague-denier. Where do you get that from? And yes: "Achoo, achoo, we all fall down!" Don't know if that origin story's true, but I've certainly heard of it.

On Topic: Friedman's a hypocrite; and here was me taking it as axiomatic that hypocrisy was the one "sin" the left acknowledged.

"[The] lefties still prefer to get something for free off the backs of the poor."

Worse still, it would appear they want to get something for free off the backs of the DEAD too.

Just to make sure that I've got the argument straight: if the storm-to-end-all-storms arrives, it'll be proof of global warming/climate change, but if the global temperature fails to rise for a decade, that's no evidence against global warming/climate change.

You see, I'm not a scientist, so I don't understand this technical thinking. I always have to check with my climatological betters, like Tom Friedman.

Imagine there's no junk science
It's easy if you try
lots of fuel below us
Above us only sky
Imagine all the people
Living for tomorrow...

Imagine there's no greenies
It isn't hard to do
Nothing to lie or steal for
No Gaia religion too
Imagine all the people
Living life in peace...

You may say I'm a dreamer
But I'm not the only one
I hope someday you'll join us
And the world will be a better one

Yes, the developing world will want "green" cars just like the developed world does. Last time I checked the best selling vehicle in the the USA was the F150,a vehicle used by people who actually build things and grow crops, and the carmakers lose money on each hybrid. How efficiently can the developing world develop using the Smart Car?

It's just more cowbell....

Friedman thinks everybody is stupid and has swallowed the kool-aid.

These warmists are the 'flat-earthers".

T needs to read this and post his comments:

http://www.sas.org/tcs/weeklyIssues_2006/2006-04-07/feature1p/index.html

Are all the AGW types as earnestly naive as Thomas Friedman?

He wants a "race" to be "green",and expects if Obama starts it, everyone else will fall in line to win the race!

No,Thomas, other, more sensible leaders will quietly chuckle as Obama ruins the American economy. They'll watch as America slips to second rate power status, just like so many want, especially the elites of all the developed Countries.

You may get what you wish for this time, and I shall take great pleasure in watching you try to negotiate with a supreme China,whose "go to hell" will be couched in less diplomatic terms as they reach the top.

I keep thinking we're getting that storm. And then all the crazies start saying the global warming causes snow.

Weird.

Maybe a few volcanic eruptions will finally convince us that global warming is real.

I read the piece and this guy sounds like a high school glee club. He is a juvenile thinker.

Here is the crux of the biscuit.

"The Earth Day strategy said that the biggest threat to mankind is climate change, and we as a global community have to hold hands and attack this problem with a collective global mechanism for codifying and verifying everyone's carbon-dioxide emissions and reductions and to transfer billions of dollars in clean technologies to developing countries to help them take part."

Cal2:
Everyone did not prosper as a result of the black death. Peasants (at least those who survived) did see their wages rise as workers became scarce. However, land owners took a beating as as the market for agricultural produce contracted, wages rose, the workforce became harder to control, and contractual obligations were disrupted by the death of debtors. Peasant revolts and war, both civil and international, broke out, and Europe fell into a severe economic depression from which it did not recover until the 16th century.

for about a 3rd of the population it wasnt good at all.

strangely the left advocates this.

His whole argument seems based on two (untrue) facts;

1) The worlds population will keep on rising (9 Billion by 2050)
Many countries are already well below replacement. Projections claim world pop growth will begin declining by 2030.

2) The US has used up all it's own energy and is reliant on unreliable countries. Untrue.
The US has a horrendous amount of untaped fossil fuels - coal and shale gas and off shore oil. If the US had nuclear power generation comparable to France, that would take a huge strain of fossils. Canada is a huge supplier of oil to the US. The oil sands are far, far bigger a reserve than anything the volatile Middle East has.
Canada will be a stable supplier of energy for decades to come - unless Charest lets his jealousy get the better of him and, and, ... what ? refuses transfer payments from Alberta and Sask ?

Friedman is an ignoramus. A big storm is just that -
a big storm. It proves nothing about climate,
which has to do with long--term trends.

As for reduction in the population, we indeed even
in Canada have way too many moonbats - but also plenty
of hungry bears, wolves, coyotes. Surely the solution is obvious!

Has no one obtained a similar picture of Suzuki's house yet ? Kate would like one. I have the aircraft, but not a long distance traveling one, heh.

Justthinkin & Cal2:
According to what I've read recently, the "ring around the rosies" story is a myth. I'm no expert, though. I Goggled the phrase some time ago, and that's what I came up with.

the rosies are the sores caused by the plague

sneezing and koffing was a pulmonary symptom(ah choo)

the scent of flowers was considered to ward off the disease(posies)

we all fall down...res ipsa etc...

citation to 'the story of english"(mcrum cran and macneil... viking, 1986)

"A storm big enough to ..."

So, it is true. The climate-alarmist really did cheer on Katrina - begging it to destroy and kill.

Small price to pay, if it meant Maurice Strong's dream would now come true.

Why are lefties and latte libs always on the weird side of an issue ?

His website encourages everyone to use a mechanical lawn mower. Will that really produce less co2?

I just finished shoveling snow, while the guy up the street did his driveway with a snow blower. It took him 5 minutes, while I huffed and puffed for 45 minutes. Something tells me I put out as much co2 as that machine.

I know, I know, the machine was using fossil fuel, but so what? It doesn't change a thing. Fifty years from now, some guy is still going to be shoveling snow, and wishing it would warm up.

Feel good about ANY method of carbon dioxide production - our plants need more of it. And our lives depend on plants. Totally !

Suzuki's Shugar Shack

go to google earth , go to coordinates

49 degrees 16' 24.78 N
123 degrees 09' 41.30 " W

fly in to about 250 feet
there is a picture of 2478 point grey road. but across the street in a huge place on the beach with a big white RV in the front yard. if thats not it then the one beside it is even larger. looks like a protective wall around it .

wait, go in a little closer, it must have been a bright day cuz the little hairy guy in the yard is squinting

close up for the suzuki shugar shack

go to google maps,
type in 2478 point grey road,

go to street view
click on the address on the left side of the screen
shows the house undergoing renovations. you can look in every direction from here and go up and down the street looking for his superbus.

close up for the suzuki shugar shack

go to google maps,
type in 2478 point grey road, vancouver BC

go to street view
click on the address on the left side of the screen
shows the house undergoing renovations. you can look in every direction from here and go up and down the street looking for his superbus.

there appears to be someones posted picture there of a very japanese temple looking monster house.

It's hard to believe this guy is so stupid.

It's easy, when CBC fawns all over you - for decades.

All the same, the dude does have a nice crib....

Tom Friedman.

Alinski

Engles

Rahm

Axlerod

Carl Marx

why is these leftist nut jobs are so heavily populated with jewish names?????

john begly @12:51 - except that sneezing is apparently one of the only things that isn't a symptom of the plague (search for: Bubonic Plague Symptoms).

The Wikipedia entry (under Ring a Ring o' Roses, I assume they're trying to be quaint) is really good; lots of different versions, including Slovak, Japanese, what have you. The plague connection is described as unlikely, and if it does exist then it probably has to do with the Great Plague of London in 1665.

I suspect this all has to do with people finding nursery rhymes creepy, the way kids always are in horror films.

I don't send money to Wiki, though, anymore than I do to PBS; I send it to Kate instead. Does that make me a bad person?

Also: Thomas Friedman still a hypocritical jerk.

cal2 - no way to link to those google earth/google maps pictures, I don't suppose?

GYM - what's your theory?????

From the link http://www.sas.org/tcs/weeklyIssues_2006/2006-04-07/feature1p/index.html Posted by: jt

"His favorite candidate for eliminating 90 percent of the world's population is airborne Ebola ( Ebola Reston ), because it is both highly lethal and it kills in days, instead of years."

Plain Evil, courtesy of the Academic Community.

If that really is Suzuki's house, then I guess all he really is concerned about is property values, for if there is an increase of ocean levels, he'd be one of the first people treading water. roflmao.

"why is these leftist nut jobs are so heavily populated with jewish names?????"

Suzuki? Gore? Obama? That's kind of a dumb suggestion.

I agree that climate change can be catostophic, but it's not warming that is the concern, It's cooling. The majority of the earths food is currently grown in the northern hemisphere and the majority of those crops are what would be termed warm weather crops (Corn, wheat, rice). Over the past decades there has been 2 cooling cycles as a result of massive volcanos. In both instances grain quantity and quality were reduced. This past year we had some crop damaging frost in every single month in an area not normally prone to frosts. If these kooks manage to get some stupid project underway to pump dust or small mirrors etc. into the upper atmosphere we won't have to worry about populations reaching 9 billion we may lose a lot of population from the countries that now struggle due to bad policy and politics

If the world is overpopulated, maybe we should rein in all the safety laws,anti-smoking campaigns,anti-obesity laws,etc.

All lefty issues.

Black Mamba

""GYM - what's your theory?????""

haven't developed any theory yet. But it is curious that a people who are over represented in the field of accomplishments are also over represented in the area of leftist nut job causes

Hudson Duster

I can tell that "statistics" ain't your strong point

If you take the world Jewish population and fraction it, and then compare that to those Jews that are in the leftist causes, you factor that is a large statistical anomaly

GYM - Jews are smarter. They're overrepresented in everything: Right, left, doesn't matter (how many important right-wing thinkers are Jewish? Authors? Businessmen? Philosophers? Doctors? Scientists?)

I'm no worshipper of IQ tests per se, but it's awfully interesting that Ashkenazi (i.e. Central and Eastern European background, as distinct from Sephardic and others - who do pretty well too BTW) Jews average something like a 120 IQ. Add to that a culture that has venerated literacy, intellectual versatility and street-smarts for many centuries, and you've got a minority that punches, metaphorically, way above its weight. (If it comforts you, there isn't a huge tradition of Jewish athletes. Gretzky was a goy).

But keep working on the theory, GYM. The only thing that can keep up with Jewish resilience and diversity is anti-semitism.

(And Engels wasn't Jewish.)

Sorry - way off topic, I know. He started it.

(And Engels wasn't Jewish.)

Black

was doing some research years ago and to my surprise I came upon an article that claimed he was, and have also subsequently read so as well, but can't not verify the independence of subsequent sources (sometimes you simply read others rehashes of subject), and had/have no way of supporting or refuting this.

"""(If it comforts you, there isn't a huge tradition of Jewish athletes. Gretzky was a goy)."""

Spitz that one back at cha

there are a few who are simply not identified as such:-)))

cal2, Anywhere from 600K to 3 mil.

http://www.bcassessment.bc.ca/index.asp

suzuki has another shack on Herriot Bay up on quadra island, but the resolution on google maps in that area is poor.

Black Mamba, link google maps and google earth?, I wish I could but way out of my pay grade.

That is a really, really nice house. One suspects that it stables some rediculous undersized and underpowered imported vehicles instead of the once traditional Cad and Lincoln roadburners. What a loser.