The "Come Get Me" Sign

Yep? Gun free zones are real lethal areas.

Ecole polytechnique, Dawson, Virginia Tech, Columbine were all such "gun free zones".

There has never been a massacre at a gun show.

I don't ask, and I don't tell.
Break in my home, I'll send you to hell.

Under each of those signs, on the same sign post, they should have the sign for "dead end ahead".

Now thats funny.

Wonder if you should send a copy to Antonia Zerisias?

http://www.thestar.com/living/article/723951--politicians-forget-that-left-wing-fringe-group-votes#article

Just received this by email today:

For those who don't know him, Major General Peter Cosgrove is an 'Australian treasure!'

General Cosgrove was interviewed on the radio recently.
You'll love his reply to the lady who interviewed him concerning guns and children. Regardless of how you feel about gun laws you gotta love this! This is one of the best comeback lines of all time. It is a portion of an ABC interview between a female broadcaster and General Cosgrove who was about to sponsor a Boy Scout Troop visiting his military headquarters.

FEMALE INTERVIEWER:
So, General Cosgrove, what things are you going to teach these young boys when they visit your base?

GENERAL COSGROVE:
We're going to teach them climbing, canoeing, archery and shooting.

FEMALE INTERVIEWER:
Shooting! That's a bit irresponsible, isn't it?

GENERAL COSGROVE:
I don't see why, they'll be properly supervised on the rifle range.

FEMALE INTERVIEWER:
Don't you admit that this is a terribly dangerous activity to be teaching children?

GENERAL COSGROVE:
I don't see how. We will be teaching them proper rifle discipline before they even touch a firearm.

FEMALE INTERVIEWER:
But you're equipping them to become violent killers.

GENERAL COSGROVE:
Well, Ma'am, you're equipped to be a prostitute, but you're not one, are you?

The radio went silent.

You guys are too harsh - remember, Vancouver is a nuclear weapons free zone, and there hasn't been a nuclear explosion there, probably because of those signs declaring it so.

Posted three days ago;

Were any others in the immediate Hood area armed ?

The first time I was at a gun and hobby meet, I thought mmmm.

A lot of guns here. A lot of ammunition. Some crazy could really make hay.

Nope. If a nut-case was looking for an opportunity to shoot it up, would he choose a Utopian University setting or a gun show ?

I suggest, even a nutso can see the light. Within seconds, one or more of the hunter types would have taken this guy out. And probably save many lives.
Posted by: ron in kelowna ∴ at November 8, 2009 2:33 PM

If the base hadn't been a gun free zone Maj. Nidal Malik Hasan would never have attacked it. He would probably have gone down the street and taken out the daycare building or the hospital.

Ghost of Ed @11:02 - there's really nothing like a good Aussie.

Never bring an empty holster to a nutbar fight.

Like the big black and red sign says in my office at home:

THESE PREMISES ARE MONITORED BY SMITH & WESSON. CLOSE SUPPORT SERVICES PROVIDED BY MSSRS WALTHER, NORINCO,CZ, MITCHELL AND REMINGTON. LONG RANGE SUPPORT SERVICES PROVIDED BY MSSRS. MARLIN, MAUSER AND TIKKA

Ghost of Ed @11:02

Got to agree, that is the best comeback I have read.

Aussie General Clarification on 11:02 post:
Checked the story out and apparently it's an urban legend. While the general does indeed exist and is highly respected the interview apparently never took place. But it's a good line anyway.
More here:
http://www.hoax-slayer.com/cosgrove-female-interviewer.shtml

Ghost of Ed
That was hilarious.
The thing is,she is a prostitute,an MSM politically correct one.

"This latest tragedy, at a heavily fortified army base, ought to convince more Americans to reject the argument that the solution to gun violence is to arm more people with more guns in more places.”

The Brady Bunch,like so many others in the anti-gun movement,can't differentiate between a law-abiding person with a gun,hunting or participating in a shooting sport, and a criminal or maniac with a gun,slaughtering defenceless people.

When someone decides to go lunatic/ballistic,whether they're armed with a gun,knife,double bitted axe or machete,the only real solution is a loaded gun in the hands of an accurate shooter.

So much has come up in respect to guns and American military bases, I feel somebody should offer a small explanation.

If the military base were in some zone that was threatened, then naturally everyone would be armed.

Even at Ft. Hood there are various guards on gates and so forth who are armed. Naturally, they were too far away to even know the shooting event was happening.

The thing you have to understand is that this base is the place returning Soldiers come home to after deployment to violent areas. This is where they come home. This is where they're supposed to be able to relax. Where they don't have to live with guns 24 hours a day, or the potential of combat. Everyone needs a break.

In addition, unit cohesiveness is very important element in soldiering. You have to feel secure about relying on the Soldier next to you. You have to believe your unit has your back. (This is true generically throughout the military and not simply the Army.)

Now if all of a sudden Soldiers have to start worrying about killing their comrades, that other Soldiers are going to try to gun them down, then everyone has to be as much on animal alert when they're at home as when they're in a combat zone.

On these bases (all military bases of any size) people have families, there are civilians going to the PX, housewives shopping. People are going to the doctor. So as you can see, the mindset about coming home to the military base and being able to relax from the dangers of combat is an important element.

Now I am very pro-gun and a member of the National Rifle Association and a Viet Nam veteran, and as I type this there are 2 .38s loaded and in easy reach. Several others are scattered throughout the house. So maybe the military will have to begin to rethink the gun policy on military bases.

But I think you can understand why the Soldiers weren't armed when the shooting took place. When you're home, it's not supposed to be a combat zone.

Eric,

If you'll think back to those days, the cry was for a 'Nuclear Free Zone'. When it came to us on the SCRD Board, I pointed out that passing such a motion would immediately force us to close the XRay machines down and end cancer treatments in our hospital.

After having the staff agree with me, the Board didn't pass it until the wording changed, and we actively promoted changing the wording to what it is now. It didn't bother me much, as nuclear carriers don't fit under the Lion's Gate anyway, and Vancouver deserves the idiots they get every election.......

Ian Vaughan

You see that sign sometimes in Phoenix. Businesses are required to post it if they don't want concealed carry permit holders or open carry in their store/restaurant.

I figure its their store, if they don't want my free protection of their place while I'm there, that's their right. So I go find their competition who doesn't have that sign.

Because I don't think its a great idea to be is a store where they have a big frickin' sign that says "Come on in and do whatever the hell you want, nobody here can stop you!"

Of course for terrorists such as Hasan the choice of
weapon is more a matter of convenience than anything else.

As for separating soldiers from their weapons, the
results are occasionally disastrous. As an instance --
my granddad served in England as a medical officer in WWI, and he told me that a Zeppelin had
raided an army training camp near where he was posted. The camp wasn't near the coast,
and there wasn't even a slingshot available, much less a rifle.
The Zeppelin flew low, its men shooting and shooting and shooting.
The incident was covered up at the time but the casualties were numerous.

Ian Vaughan - thanks for the additional info - that's *really* funny!

There are a whole lot of people who need to watch Demolition Man.

Of course if you're worried about gun violence, you could always set up your very own gun free zone.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S7pGt_O1uM8

[quote]You see that sign sometimes in Phoenix. Businesses are required to post it if they don't want concealed carry permit holders or open carry in their store/restaurant.[/quote]
Texas was the first place I saw that type of sign. It's against the law, and common sense, to have a fire arm in a Bar (drinking establishment) The Texans respect that Law...In NJ & NY they don't bother to post that signage as it will be ignored.

We don't need more guns on Military bases. We need to Court Martial those incompetent military members that were derelict in thier duty. It is an act of crime to confuse a policy of diversity (those of a common cause) with a known threat of Islam Jihad. We should not label all Muslims with the brand of “Islam Jihad”, but those in command can not willfully ignore that possibility. ... General Casey needs to retire ASAP

The US Military bases MUST be “Jihad free Zones”

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now, maybe this is the missing piece of the puzzle
in mayor miller's war on crime initiative... the
banning of gun ranges in toronto.

the gang killings somehow mysteriously continued...
even after all the ranges were shut down.

i guess he forgot to post the signs.

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Unfortunately, the whole Canada is "gun-free" zone. Can you imagine any of MPs talking about 'concealed carry'? How about 'castle doctrine' ?

Greg: Before 1993, soldiers "at home" on bases could be armed if they wished to be, for self defense. Then DOD (on the President's orders, it is said) changed the policy so they could not be.

Unit cohesion didn't spike up after that ban, as far as I know. IDF soldiers manage to be armed all the time without suffering negative effects on unit cohesion either, to my knowledge. (Of course, they're all in an active war zone all the time, but...)

I don't see that allowing soldiers who wish to to carry a pistol on base is going to destroy morale. Plainly nobody can have the illusion, anymore, that they're safe because they're disarmed.

Philip: It's against common sense (and the law) to carry while drinking - it's not against common sense (or, in some states, the law) to carry while in a bar or place-where-alcohol-is-served but not drinking.

They should get rid of any locks & just put up a real sign saying "just rob me" Liberal living here.

"Backlash in California: Muslim at mall kiosk tears crucifix from shopper, shouts "Allah is power"

Whoops, sorry -- this isn't backlash against the poor, innocent Muslims being terrorized and victimized by the thousands after the Fort Hood Nothing-To-Do-With-Islam attack. This is just the familiar Muslim backlash against non-Muslims, which will increasingly be a feature of American life in the coming years. Nothing to see here. Move along.

Police arrested 22-year-old Abdul Walid Hamid of Hayward on the evening of Wednesday, Nov. 4, after he reportedly tore a crucifix from a person's neck and scared others at Stoneridge Shopping Center. Hamid, an employee at a mall kiosk near Starbucks, has been charged with battery, terrorist threats and grand theft.

According to reports, Hamid was yelling "Allah is power" and "Islam is great" while holding a pen in a fist over his head. Witnesses said he shouted anti-Christian comments, said police.

Lt. Mike Elerick of the Pleasanton Police Department said the man was not provoked and didn't threaten violence, but he committed robbery when he grabbed and broke a crucifix off someone's neck."
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2384173/posts

Sigivald, I personally don't have anything against people carrying on base. My post was intended to help Canadians understand some of the rationale for Soldiers not being armed on base.

When I was in and we were Stateside, I knew guys who carried little pistols around whether anyone liked it or not.

The sad truth is (as you know) that sometimes Soldier, Sailors, Airmen, and Marines have to protect themselves from each other, but that opens a whole other can of worms not connected to an act of terrorism on one of our military bases.

Stumbled on Oprah show with Sgt. Mark Todd and my heroine Sgt. Kimberly Munley.
Great to see an interview so quickly.

Re training kids. During WWII, we were given rifle training - to kill a human, not a deer - at high school. No parent objected to my knowledge.

I live in a semi rural area north of Toronto. (close enough to see it from a high point on the moraine, but far away enough to escape most of the stank of crazy urbanites) With proximity to the city comes some of the problems of the city too. Some of the urban criminals occasionally venture up north here to raid some of the unlocked doors and easy pickin's of us trusting and friendly country folks. On my concession, quite a few of my relatively new neighbours, who have recently moved up here and live in "estate type" homes and have brought their urban sensibilities (anti-gun animal hugging crap) with them have been victimize by these miscreants. Some repeatedly.
Others, like myself and other long term residents have not. Might have something to do with the deerheads hanging on the front of the garage, and the gun racks on the ATV's and pickups parked out front. Seems even stupid criminals are smart enough to realize someone who has a different view of gun control might be living in a place like that..

Of course if your weapon is concealed, who's to know? Some of the best comments here tonight. I may have a handgun, but I would want few to know, so in a way it is concealed. And Trudeau's law that got the government out of the bedrooms of the nation should disallow police to check my bedside table.

Omg, thats was funny. Stay away from gun if you don't want to get hurt.

I wonder what little ms glock-semi soccer-mom thinks of it all:

http://www.phawker.com/2009/10/08/guncrazy-glock-packing-soccer-mom-shot-dead/

Are there two curious_georges or are you just schitzoid?

The answer to your question is the woman is dead and so doesn't think anything at all.

Did you ever think maybe the woman was carrying at the soccer game because her husband had threatened to kill her? Duh. Not everybody has a squeaky clean married life dude.

Phillip G. Shaw, to the best of my knowledge Arizona concealed carry permit holders are now allowed to carry in places where liquor is served, so long as they are not intoxicated. Its a new law, so I'm a little hazy on the precise wording.

Establishments must post some sign like Kate's example above if they want to exclude permit holders from carrying on their premises.

I don't eat where I see that sign. It means "please rob us."

Military bases are military -targets-. It is insanity to disarm soldiers on-base in time of war. You may as well slap orange "shoot me!" stickers on their backs.

And gee, didn't some guy just shoot like 43 soldiers last week? Facts are moving in my direction, I'd say.

Posted below that warnig should be a sign for those who don't obey signs:

"welcome armed hoodlums, the place is yours to do what you will"