Dock Ellis & The LSD No-No

The point of this animation was ???

This is a good little story.
I don't know how well Ellis would have fared against a drunk Babe Ruth, but one thing's for sure -- it would have been totally awesome.

This story only makes sense to those of us who've actually experienced LSD. Please don't ask me to explain. If you have to ask, there's nothing I can say to make you understand. I can only say, LSD is the closest thing to an out of body experience, you will ever encounter.

Will it lead to tabbed browsing?

I'm gonna get some for my next job interview. It couldn't hurt.

I tried, but never managed to do acid in the recommended consciousness raising environment; sheltered in some safe place with sitar music playing while dressed in flowing robes. (Although once I wore a bathrobe.)
It was always the wrong place, wrong time, wrong people...or maybe it just turned out that way.
It's scary to think young people are crazy enough to take substances sold by home chemists. I wish I hadn't, I wish they wouldn't.

I've never done LSD, but I remember Dock Ellis well. The story back in those days was that he was a personality -- but who'd have known.

To those of us who haven't had the pleasure of a Timothy Leary freak-out, I think this little video clip will tell you everything you need to know:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P0zgIzqgxFU&NR=1

Not so "groovy" now, is it, you beatniks?

I'm not good with baseball. Did he do poorly, or well? Everyone seemed very happy with him at the end.

I thought that was well told and well animated.

BlMa, to throw a no-hitter is pretty amazing - in all of Major League history I think there has been a little over 250 no hitters thrown - ie where the opposing team has no hits at bat.

It's still possible to lose by walking players, so they can get to base, but that's very rare.

PS - no-no is slang for a no hitter

Thanks, Erik. Didn't understand that last sentence, but yes, pitching a no-hitter is good, that does ring a bell.

So.... athletes should take acid.

And so a no-no is really a "hell-yes!" I'm catching on.

Took LSD twice in my youth. Took one hit and all I experienced was hyperactivity and huge pupils. The next night, which happened to be Halloween, I took 2 hits and experienced the full effects which were exacerbated by attending a rather ghoulish Halloween party - do not recommend it. I was given another hit, not blotter but dot, a couple of weeks later; fortunately, I accidentally lost the tiny pink dot in a friends shag carpeting.

Remember that the brain is not fullly formed until age 25; I prefer to blame the foolish decisions I made in my youth on this fact.

BlMa - well, professional athletes are in a different performance world from the rest of us - it's interesting how mind altering drugs can wreck part of you, but the rest keeps on going just fine - maybe even better because nerves etc disappear.

I still remember when Elvis messed up "Are You Lonesome Tonight". He couldn`t remember the words for the spoken part - but he had no problem belting out *perfectly* the sung part. The brain is an interesting thing. I`m sure he was a high as a Georgia pine then.

The King, high!? Shame on you!

Next you'll be telling me JFK slept around.

I've had some good times and inspirational moments on acid, now with a wife and kids I would worry about having some sort of "bad trip" and end up curled up in a ball fretting about my marraige and kids.

From wiki:

Dock Ellis retired to Victorville, California and a career as a drug counselor. An alcoholic, he was diagnosed with cirrhosis in 2007, and was on the list for a transplant at the time of his death. ESPN.com reported on December 19, 2008, that Ellis had died at USC Medical Center in Los Angeles due to "a liver ailment."

Truth is strange than fiction.

Wrong you baseball experts!

A no-no means "no hit, no run" which is not quite as good as a "perfect game" during which no opposition runners make it on-base through hits, errors or walks. In other words, he faces the absolute minimum number of batters and "gets" them all. Don Larson of the evil Yankees is the only man to pitch a perfect World Series game and he did it sober and drug-free. However, rumour has it he may have been chewing tobacco ..... if true, that should drive the tobacco-haters nuts.

I stand thoroughly and appropriately corrected - (I know almost nothing about sports and never put myself forward as an expert.)

PS - it's Don LARS*E*N

Erik Larsen (no relation) :-)

I never progressed beyond smoking other people's weed at parties. My current status as being above ground I attribute to this this inborn caution as a young man.

Drugs + motorcycle = dirt nap.

However, I must say that anyone around the age of 50 or so who tells you they never did drugs is a fibber. :)

According to my GP---the defining line between normal and alcoholic is 14 shots/drinks/week.

I am quite content to skate that line.

sasquatch - for physicians, the true definition of an alcoholic is someone who drinks more than you do

If you remember the 60's, you weren't really there.

" I can't remember you"

Ron Miles

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZZDkGv9J5rE

Phantom - I had a drugs+motorcycle event. I gave up on both a long time ago.

All I can say is, it's a good thing LSD isn't physically addictive.

Not everyone did LSD for the same reasons. Intellectuals tried to use it in their search for alternate perceptions of reality. Hippies used it for a pseudo-religious experience. Bad-asses like my friends, and I, were looking for ways to push the boundaries of human endurance. Think of it as being inside a crazy video game.

The video made me think about something I did in highschool. My 2 friends and I decided to drop acid at school, just to see where it would take us. To our dismay, we got a huge snowstorm, and school was cancelled. We all headed to my friends house, hoping his older brother would rescue us. We ended up snowed in, and spent the day trying to blend in with what seemed like a parallel universe.

I remember the sixties, because I was too young to be involved in anything crazy. The 70s were my training ground. We had a whole different attitude than the hippies. If my teenage sons want to try some of this stuff, I think the best thing I could do for them is make sure they understand the need for safe surroundings.

well...i did 'acid' at least a 100 times...and everything else on offer...in every way....never did me any harm and i've owned a good 2 dozen motorcycles over the years...and almost every one of them a big beemer yet only dropped them twice over 35 years....i certainly did 'f%ck up' in other ways the odd time but that was because of my personality and cheap red wine......but they were all learning experiences see...i soon learned how to exercise my unfettered will in society without penalty...

as Voltaire said.."once is philosophy while twice is perversion."....i always wanted to pack as many experiences into my life as possible...and shake my circumstances like a terrier shakes a rat...

liver?...check..no problem

kidneys? check..no problems

grey matter ?...check..still clicking away with only a few short term memory glitches..

heart ?...a mild right branch block thingy which is rather a commonplace..

eyesight?...check...still find money laying on the ground..

attitude?..check...don't cross me please...notice i say please..

money ?...made my pile honestly even tho i'm a lazy bastard...i only put energy into beautiful things..the world is far too depressing a place else..

and kinda pleased to see my genes were passed on as well...it really is uncanny ... i rejoice knowing my work will be continued...my mission will be moved further along influencing as yet unborn minds to stop being so full of shit..

Phantom - How about around 60? I'm no fibber unless you're one of those who insist that alcoholic drinks (beer included) is a drug, in which case you're feeling guilty for your bad choices as a youth.

Supacool...

You are one cool dude Begley; and you quote Voltaire no less. Why am I not surprised?

dp - You are such a wise and liberated father, I'm sure your boys are proud of how cool their pa is.

sasquatch said-
"According to my GP---the defining line between normal and alcoholic is 14 shots/drinks/week."

Must be a typo there. You must mean weekend or weekday not week. I know people who do 14 shots a week for breakfast.

Phantom said "However, I must say that anyone around the age of 50 or so who tells you they never did drugs is a fibber. :)"

Phantom I am outraged that you would ever even suggest such a thing. To insinuate that... oh wait.. uhh.. never mind.

Looking for the White Rabbit? Very talented little entertainment. Lot of talented people online.

sasquatch @ 3:13

"There's more old drunks, than there are old doctors...
So I guess I better have another round."

George Jones

Johnboy - Great quote, belongs in the Oxford Book of same. Is Georgie still around or merely pickled?

Very interesting. Thanks for sharing this

dp - "there's nothink I can say to make you understand".

Maybe Elton John said it best with "Lucy in the sky with diamonds."

LSD. If God made anything better, He's not telling.

different bob - Elton John? Well, you got the John part right.

What amazes me is that he pitched a whole game on 1970s acid. By the time I took the stuff, if was watered down, upset-stomach-producing stuff that only goosed the nerve endings a bit and made shag carpets merely blur and ripple, not change colour and explode into a coral reef. Of course, pot back in the '70s was much weaker than the crazy strong paranoia-inducing overbred resin-balls today.

So I guess there's a trade-off.

Larben, you may be the only guy in Canada who made it through that time without doing at least one doobie.

And dude, you didn't miss anything. Except maybe a mo-fo of a hangover. Pot can give a banger hangover, something you don't hear mentioned often.

These days I don't even drink beer anymore. Not because I'm all morally superior or anything, it just makes me cranky. Other people complained, you know? So I laid off as a public service, so to speak.

Phantom - Well at least you learned from your experience, though I suspect you wish you had the money back! The money I spent on cigs and booze would let me retire now. Ah well, no use crying over spilt beer. That said, there are people living in the park across from me who are homeless and appear to have lost all hope. This is partly societal (feminism,immigration,secularism) but mostly the ingestion of horribly destructive drugs.
It is why I find nothing humourous about that life-style.

Ellis, D. on LSD

20-30 yrs ago elephant weed was around for a weekend..pretty awesome stuff

manorrd - Dude!

Well, if I've learned one thing from this comments thread, it's that LSD use leads to ... conservatism ... later in life.

Whoa.

Thomas_l whoaaaa! must have had a 70's flashback! For sure - John and Paul! Got to let that sh_t go - Bob.

I'm OK now.

I guess they called him "Dock" Ellis because he had few piers...