Chicago Didn't Get The Olympics ...

The NYC chapter of the ACLU (aka CAIR, New York) must be salivating in anticipation.

When I tuned in to hear Holder say he'd be seeking the death penalty I thought they'd arrested Bush and Cheney.

I wasn't that far off. It's pretty obvious that part of the plan is put them on trial one way or the other.

If found not guilty do they get to walk?

The stupidest idea I've heard all year.

WASF...

Major Nidal is also an 'alleged' shooter.

I thought he confessed?

Like Beck said today "where are they going to find a jury of his peers?"

The latest from the WH is that they are seeking amnesty for 10 million illegals.
P.E.T. must be green with envy Obama has him beat hands down.

Maybe if his fair trial could be followed by a 1st class public hanging on the site of the WTC complex...

Like Beck said today "where are they going to find a jury of his peers?" Posted by: gobi desert

Pakistan.

Try these men and put them in a pit somewhere. If this is allowed to become a media circus, God help us when they get their own talk shows.

Why not? Now they are going to have to throw out all kinds of evidence. Can't wait for the day when his lawyers are high fiving and he walks out of the courtroom a free man. He can probably move to have the charges dismissed on the grounds that his right to a speedy trial were violated.

Obama And The General. This could be a TV series, you know ... another one of those mindless Negro sit-coms.

Love his eye shadow in the picture on the right.

I dunno.

I always thought that photo they took of Khalid when they nabbed him looked just like the late John Belushi after an all-night bender:

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/20/Khalid_Shaikh_Mohammed_after_capture.jpg

Toga! Toga!

Did Belushi really die at the Chateau Marmont?

I think we should be told.

I don't comment much here as 99% of the time what I want to say has already been expressed, but I can't believe some of the comments on the link provided re: The NY Times article. This one blew me away.... "It will be interesting to see how the jury handles evidence obtained by torture. If I was a member of it, I would vote not guilty"

Absolutely stomach turning. There are plenty more like it. People on the left must truly have a mental disorder, there can be no other explanation.

I new I'd seen him before too, but I thought he was Ron Jeremy.

I started reading those too, Rodney. Absolutely sickening.

A jury of his peers?

http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/home/daily/site_111309/content/01125111.guest.html

I have seen that face before as well...

And if you don't believe it, then you better kill me now, because I'll put a jihad on you too.

I like you. You have balls.

I like balls.

...

"I've got five terrorists going southeast on Baka laka daka (Wall) Street."

That is one hairy MOFO.

Can there be any doubt that an OJ-like acquittal is in the cards?

Yeah Rodney, I only got to the third comment before I closed the window to prevent hypertension and acid reflux.

The BDS leftoids are still out there and are more than willing to hand over our freedom to feed their habit.

Speaking of the ACLU ....

Here's some observations from

Stop The ACLU !

Now the victims of 9/11 get to pay for the housing, security and show trial of those who sought the murder of those and their families.

Really effin cool those Democretins... eh?

By putting it in NY they are inviting years of appeals. Prejudice? Find any non truther that wouldn't want these slime to swim the Atlantic in December. Those Americans that have not lost the will to live remember the people that brought this farce to you in the name of Justice.

I just cannot understand how people can hate people from their own country and sympathize with those responsible for 9/11. What is so hard to understand about islamist jihad and the fact that they want to see us all dead? I felt physically ill reading some of the comments at they NY Times. I've NEVER felt that way before in my life and I'm 43. I don't understand how people can believe things like that, as hard as I try.

You can't reason with people like the jihadis. The cold hard truth is as much as you try to talk to them they will only understand the fist. That is the only way they will respect you. To think otherwise is delusional. They should have been executed long ago, in a way that would cause them the greatest shame in the eyes of their peers so as to demoralize them, not make them martyrs and give them a platform to spout their crap like this dog and pony show. They're playing for keeps, why aren't we?

One more page in the Obamunist play book. The boy president was not able to put Bush on trial so now Holder & the administration will put the FBI & CIA on trial. During a war.

The progessive media will love this! Especially the dead tree media as this will be like a bail-out with no end to the column inches of America bashing churned out by pin head CSJ graduates.

Just think of the possibilities for Chris Matthews - CAIR "Special Reports" during the next 10 years of trials, appeals, trails, etc.

I have to agree,this will end up being another "OJ" case, and Khalid will probably walk.

Some of the comments at that link are unbelievable!

Look at it this way; now the MSM has something other than the economy to kvetch about.

Who provides security... NYC police ?

NEVER HAPPEN!

I want to see the birth certificate, I prefer Biden because he is more entertaining than dangerous. bambam is dangerous and Holder has let ideology rule over common sense. NY doesn't need to be a target and as Guiliani (sp?) has said we did not try the Pearl Harbour guys in Hawaii. It was an act of war and not a civillian crime.

Follow the "alleged" link in Kate's post, and then scroll down to the link to the "Baseball Crank". This guy's right on the money - by holding the trial right in the middle of downtown Manhattan, the required security is just going to further choke and snarl traffic in the very heart of the city's civic core. An excerpt:

It's impossible, really, to caricature this White House; even Josiah Bartlett didn't run through this many liberal stereotypes in his first season. Obama needs new writers. Blow up the World Trade Center and kill 3,000 Americans? Jail! Don't buy health insurance? Jail! Win the Nobel Prize for doing jack squat.

Very funny, but absolutely accurate.

Have any of you read the article behind the "Is there nothing that Obama can't do?" link? This could be more than just a circus. It could turn into downright betrayal of their country.

I haven't read any of the comments from the NYT, but if they are as bad as folks here suggest, then it must be like commenters at CBC's website or at the Red Star. We must remember that people who comment at those places are primarily restricted to those people to consume the garbage the host media organ grinds out for their consumption. In other words, they are lunatics on the fringe.

I was one of the earliest and long-time commenters at the blog Iraq the Model. Most of the commenters there were Americans and I was amazed at how many confessed to being life-long Democrats right up until 9/10, but switched allegiances shortly after and have never gone back. I suspect this circus could very well result in a similar movement. It's going to be a loooooonnnnnng three years, but stunts like this will ensure the Dems are soundly defeated. (I hope.)

"Who provides security... NYC police ?
NEVER HAPPEN!"

No, but one can always dream...

It's outrageous.

1)Think about it. This act defines them as criminals within the rights of US Law. But - They are neither US citizens nor criminals. They are terrorists and non-citizens; i.e., an illegal militarist and should be tried in military court.

2) Think about it. How much money, US taxpayer money, is it going to cost for US citizens to pay for the lawyers for these five? And security? Millions and millions. Of US taxpayer money being spent on five terrorists whose agenda is to harm the US. Hey..with this decision, they ARE harming the US and its taxpayers!

3) Think about it. Holder informed the press that he was certain that prosecution, seeking the death penalty, 'would be successful'. Hey- that's already grounds for a mistrial judgment!

4) So what's it really all about? It's not about terrorism. Remember, Obama doesn't recognize terrorism; he's changed the 'war on terror' to 'overseas contingency operations' (what the heck does that mean?)..and the term 'terrorist' is now forbidden; they are called 'insurgents'.

It's an election year. The real agenda is Bash Bush. It's really a trial of Bush, Cheney and the whole Bush administration. That's what it's really all about.
And, there'll be LOTS of talk about incompetence, torture, ill-treatment of the Koran..oh..and lots of talk about how the whole 9/11 was justified and due to the perfidy of the Before-Obama era.

5) I predict - that this will blow up against Obama. Yes, there'll be the usual Hate America crowd, but I think that the Love America crowd, made up of people who are Democrats, Republiclans and Independents..is increasing. And they are fed up with Bash America, Apologize For America, and yes, are starting to see the good points of Bush.

Think about it - How Bush went, privately, without the photo-op, to Fr. Hood to meet with all the wounded. Did Obama? Heck no, He couldn't even announce the crisis properly. Recall how he first talked about a 'shout-out' (what is he, a campus cheerleader?) for some native American, and other..and finally, got to announce the Ft. Hood massacre..

Remember how he showed up for a Return at an airforce base of a soldier killed in Afghanistan? Obama? For a photo-op? Why? Because he was refusing to decide on the AFghan policy and he was trying to silence critics..so, he went for the photo-op.
Bush went often, often, to these ramp ceremonies. But never once allowed a picture to be taken. Obama asked for one.

I predict, that this will blow up against Obama.

This is a brilliant move for Obama. He can't keep them in Gitmo because he promised he would shut it down. He can't order the detainees released. He can't deport them because their home countries don't want them. So he orders a civil trial where the judge throws the case out because they weren't Mirandized. The 5th Amendment kicks in - double jeopardy - and they walk out, free men. His hands are clean - how can you blame the Constitution? - and the mess goes away.

Related - any guesses on how much poor wee Omar Khadr is going to get for his troubles? I think it'll be at least 20 million.

He looks like most cab drivers?

I just don't think the Democrat strategists have really thought this one through.

If Khalid walks (unlikely) the popularity of the Obama administration will inevitably tank.

Even if, as seems more likely, he ends up with a significantly reduced sentence, the popularity of the Obama administration will still suffer.

It's LOSE-LOSE all the way.

Circus is right. While the media bombards us with daily overdoses of OJ East Coast, Reid and Pellosi will be busy shredding the last remnants of the constitution.

It's a political agenda for Obama; it's part of his next election campaign.

Think about it.

1) The trial will take several years. It's all about Bash Bush, it's laying a huge guilt trip on America, for the defense will do all they can to set the terrorists up as hapless victims of American imperialism...it will be about waterboarding; it will be about..whatever..

Remember, that Obama operates by emotional manipulation. He won, using the vapid empty rhetoric of Hope and Change (hope for what? change from what?..it's up to the listener)..and on an anti-Bush campaign. AND, on the guilt trip strategy of his 'race'. He used that as a vital tactic in his election campaign. Pure emotion.

2) This next election campaign, disguised as a court session is equally emotional manipulation.

It will campaign on guilt. But this time, it's not about race. It's about Being American. So, he'll put the Pre-Obama era on trial, and make Americans feel guilty about that era.

3) And this anti-Bush and anti-American campaign will be paid for by Americans! Not out of the Democratic Party coffers!

4) And it will function as a huge propaganda campaign to recruit and inflame jihadism around the world. Huge propaganda....

5)Notice that this decision came right after Ft. Hood. Ft Hood was a terrorist attack. On Obama's watch. This trial is being set up to define any and ALL terrorist attacks, even future ones, as Due To Bush and to Pre-Obama Americans.
Watch them do this; watch for the rhetoric.

6) I'm still going to predict that this will incite more, a backlash against Obama. You can only manipulate people so much....

Too clever by half, Kathyrn.

I'm with ET. THEY WILL RUE THE DAY. This is going to become a long-running advertisement against this despicable regime. This is going to refresh liberal memories. Recall, liberals were just as angry as we were on 9/11.

I keep wondering if I sometimes engage in unjustified hyperbole when I refer to this administration as Marxist/Maoist America-haters.
But I think not. If anything, HYPObole.

This is way, way beyond hard-ball Chicago gangster partisan politics. This is a Fifth Column Whitehouse. This is collaborating with the enemy.

me no dhimmi - YES! I agree with you! We finally did it! We agree.

It is indeed true; this administration is in active collaboration with the enemy.

Obama is using this as an election strategy. He's not intending to run his next election campaign on what HE has done, for his record is increasingly disastrous. No, he's running against Bush. And against guilt. But this time, it's not racial guilt. It will be 'religious guilt' or Middle East guilt.

What are the proponents of this fiasco saying to try to justify it? They are saying, in their smug sanctimonious stupidity, that this will 'show the world' the real glorious nature of American justice. Rubbish.

The world isn't interested in such a showcase. What is will show the Islamic world, and that's its agenda, is the Evil Bush Era, the Evil CIA, and it will attempt to twist the American voter into a pretzel of guilt. How to get out of this guilt? Vote For Obama in 2010 and 2012.

Think about it. Obama's Gang tried to trip up the CIA. Remember Pelosi claiming that the CIA lied to her? Hmmm?

And, they've tried to have the 'perpetrators' of 'torture' tried in US courts. Remember that?

These agendas both went nowhere.

Now, they are achieving this goal: Denigrate the CIA; Bash Bush....by this trial.

I'll still predict - it will backlash against Obama. There's a limit to Boots Walking All Over the American People..and when it's the Presidential Boots..he'd better be careful.

If the point was to have a real criminal trial he would walk even with the most inadequate of defence attorneys. So what is the point really, other than to fan the flames of Obama's raging ego and publicize security secrets?

maybe OwebamaRahm is champaigning to be the next secretary general of the UN

Hang onta yer hat granny...Hell just came to breakfast....

Ordinarilly I would equate this to firing on Fort Sumter...........I may be right................

oh look.

it's rosie o'donnell.

p.s. this has far less to do with The B.O. and vastly more to do with the fact that in 2004 there were more lawyers in the US of A per capita than anywhere else in the world.

http://money.cnn.com/magazines/fsb/fsb_archive/2004/04/01/366651/index.htm

oh lookie. 666 in the link. whatever does that mean . . . ?

Here's a comment worth reading at the National Review The Corner, by Andy McCarthy:

"So: We are now going to have a trial that never had to happen for defendants who have no defense. And when defendants have no defense for their own actions, there is only one thing for their lawyers to do: put the government on trial in hopes of getting the jury (and the media) spun up over government errors, abuses and incompetence. That is what is going to happen in the trial of KSM et al. It will be a soapbox for al-Qaeda's case against America. Since that will be their "defense," the defendants will demand every bit of information they can get about interrogations, renditions, secret prisons, undercover operations targeting Muslims and mosques, etc., and — depending on what judge catches the case — they are likely to be given a lot of it. The administration will be able to claim that the judge, not the administration, is responsible for the exposure of our defense secrets. And the circus will be played out for all to see — in the middle of the war. It will provide endless fodder for the transnational Left to press its case that actions taken in America's defense are violations of international law that must be addressed by foreign courts. And the intelligence bounty will make our enemies more efficient at killing us."

And that's the agenda of Hodder/Obama. To Bash Bush and the previous administration, and to create GUILT in the emotions of Americans...so that they will vote for Not-Bush, i.e., Obama, in the next elections.

It's not about justice. After all, they ARE guilty, and therefore, what's the point of a trial like this? A military tribunal would have been correct.

Those leftists who bleat about 'it will showcase the American justice system all over the world' are talking through their tinfoil hats. There is no need for the American justice system to be showcased in this instance, because there is nothing to prove or disprove. Nothing.

But it will incite jihadists all over the world because the trials will set these men up as Glorious Martyrs.
It will assist terrorists in their plans.

It will cost the American taxpayer billions - and I maintain that it is being used as an electioneering strategy by the Democratic Party, which means that the American taxpayer is subsidizing the Democratic Party's election campaign.

It will endanger the jurists and govt lawyers who will be targets of jihadist attacks.

This visage almost, for the first time in my life, gives me to accept Darwin's theory on the Descent of Man; ... in reverse!

Absolutely bang-on, ET. Every word, from start to finish. Can't even tell you.

Thank you.

It's ... a ... reverse show trial.