The Sound Of Settled Science

There has grown a whole industry of
taxpayer-funded climate modellers whose
equations can’t reproduce last week’s
weather let alone past climate change at
all, but whose crystal balls universally
forecast impending disaster (and of course
the urgent need for more research
money).Why haven’t physicists pointed
out the basic mistakes in the science?

Moreover, the zealotry of many adherents
is frighteningly reminiscent of the Spanish
Inquisition, fascism and other movements
designed to take control and silence
dissent. Vicious personal attacks on those
who raise valid scientific questions infect
the blogosphere, including likening them
to Holocaust deniers. Even NASA’s James
Hansen, a very vocal promoter of
anthropogenic global warming, has been
allowed to get away with all sorts of very
unscientific and virulent statements, such
as demanding that oil company executives
be tried for “crimes against humanity and
nature”.

So, if anthropogenic CO2 is not driving
climate change, why do mostWestern
governments—with the notable exception
of Václav Klaus, president of the Czech
Republic—continue to fall over themselves
in support of the belief of anthropogenic
global warming, and try to best each other
in promising to cap CO2 production,
designing carbon taxes and cap-and-trade
legislation, and throwing huge sums of
money at alternative energy schemes, CO2
sequestration projects and climatological
research? Sure, certain individuals stand to
make a lot of money out of these measures,
but some of them arguably will amount to
economic suicide.

...

But economic suicide is what the enviro-nuts like Paul Watson want, thus reducing the current human population by approximately 5 billion.

Remember, money and ideology trump common sense.

Cheers

Hans-Christian Georg Rupprecht, Commander in Chief

1st Saint Nicolaas Army
Army Group "True North"

And yet, when you check out the article that follows it, that article discusses awareness of climate change as if it is "settled science."

Brian R Pratt sums it up quite well:

[So, if anthropogenic CO2 is not driving
climate change, why do mostWestern
governments—with the notable exception
of Václav Klaus, president of the Czech
Republic—continue to fall over themselves
in support of the belief of anthropogenic
global warming, and try to best each other
in promising to cap CO2 production,
designing carbon taxes and cap-and-trade
legislation, and throwing huge sums of
money at alternative energy schemes, CO2
sequestration projects and climatological
research? Sure, certain individuals stand to
make a lot of money out of these measures,
but some of them arguably will amount to
economic suicide.Well, what politicians do
“passeth all understanding” for most of us in
the trenches, but it does illustrate the power
of the green lobby and, in my opinion, a
dearth of real leadership.] Pratt

"passeth all understanding" and "the power of the green lobby" can both be explained by the power (diminishing) of the media.

Popular Science magazines in Journalist Faculty lounges is probably as close as they ever get to science.

Mo Stlong . . . whispering in Obammasiah's ear

"Key Obama Climate Change [Scam] Exchange Being Swayed by Top UN officials - Presidential Politics | Political News - FOXNews.com

A greenhouse gases trading system funded with the support of then-Illinois State Sen. Barack Obama, which is likely to play a major role in his $650 million cap-and-trade initiative, lists five present or former top-ranking U.N. officials on its advisory board who've had enormous influence over climate change matters -- including one who received $1 million from a convicted South Korean lobbyist.

The most controversial figure of the five, Maurice Strong, was one of former Secretary General Kofi's key aides at the U.N. for years until the Iraq Oil-for-Food scandal forced him to leave. Since then Strong has lived mostly in China. Calls to the exchange for comment about Strong's role, and that of other U.N. figures, were not returned."

Pratt makes the argument that many of us in the geological sciences community make, that both atmospheric CO2 concentrations and global temperatures have, in geological history, been significantly higher than today (though not necessarily at the same time) and life still thrived. My only concern is the speed of the process. An increase of 5 or 6 degrees C over a century would be devastating, but spread over a thousand years, it would hardly be noticeable. I am not currently convinced that the predictions of the climate modellers are refined enough to make that determination.

The 'we' that the cultists like sazookey and Al Ghor toss around infers that 'we' is inclusive; in fact, the use of this inclusive pronoun is not inclusive, it is 'you' to which the spewer refers, not himself or his crowd. Every time a special interest groupie uses the term 'we must do something' know that the 'we' refers to you, not him/her and their crowd who are funded with your tax dollars.

Shun 'band wagon, snake oil salesmen like the plague. Their (the cult groupies) agenda is always all about getting your money via appealing to your better instincts with alarming 'dire warnings' of how 'you' guised as 'we' are destroying the lives and the habitat of 'other' people and all of nature. The conscientious citizen (esp guilt ridden citizens who have compassion for those less well off) question why they have been successful where others are failures. Good people feel sorry for the failures so by appealing to that very decent emotion, the cultists without conscience, weave their lies.

In this nation, the WWI and WWII vets were so horrified at the beast that breathed in the breasts of totalitarian dictators like Hitler, Mussolini and Stalin that they were sickened and revolted by any human suffering. These honorable vets (I am the daughter of these vets) instilled a respect for 'grovelers' (not realizing that most of these grovelers had no reason to grovel and did not have the best interests of free citizens at heart OR that the 'grovelers' were much richer than them AND that the reason the grovelers were rich was because of honorable tax paying citizens like themselves!) in their offspring who they reminded often that 'we have a lot to be thankful for and we should 'help' others to achieve the good life we enjoy - remember that most of the vets were Dirty Thirty kids (or pioneers) and no one 'helped' them! - thus the finer people always can be counted on to 'help'. I was one of those people until my volunteer organizations refused to allow me to enjoy a cigarette while donating my time.

Because our ancestors worked for and died for the Liberty and good life that we enjoy in the west, we, the descendants of these real pioneers, fail to understand the reward of standing up for yourself and the people who will stand up for you; to defend the right to live as a free man/woman. Some people will die before they will allow themselves be slaves - they will fight for their own freedom or die - as a free man/woman. There is honor in being free, slavery is the lowest state of existence.

The cultists understand the guilt and wonder of freedom and they feed off the guilt of the inheritors of freedom who did not fight for that freedom. Freedom is never free ..this should be drilled into the head of every schoolchild in free nations; instead they are being force fed the Pablum of Communism and they are easy targets of the real slave makers who dwell in the cultist, evil, dark tunnels of joints like the UN, WHO, World Justice, PETA, United Way,... AND Global Warming.

Once they get the control of the economic independence of free born people, the absolute control of all aspects of life are just a mini step away. People who have never been hungry do not understand the power of hunger; but the cultist DO understand. The object of the Global Warming agenda alarmist is to limit the food supply.

I saw this video of Andrew Kalvan over at Blazing Cat Fur, and it perfectly encapsulates the whole thing for me.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lWHgUE9AD4s&eurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww%2Eblazingcatfur%2Eblogspot%2Ecom%2F&feature=player_embedded

The correct answer to the question "Does reducing our dependence on fossil fuels justify promulgating scientific lies?" is:

"Shut up!"

That's the essential communication being delivered by the global warmers these days. Have a look at the comments the trolls make later. Pretty much amounts to "shut up!"

So I'll just get a pre-emptive MAKE ME! in here now. Scottish heritage bubbles up at the oddest moments. :)

"So, if anthropogenic CO2 is not driving
climate change, why do mostWestern
governments—with the notable exception
of Václav Klaus, president of the Czech
Republic—continue to fall over themselves
in support of the belief of anthropogenic
global warming, and try to best each other
in promising to cap CO2 production,"

There's 4 'logical' answers:

1- The threat is real.
Yet the live results witnessed are heading in the opposite direction of the 'warming'. It's getting colder on a planetary scale and this since 2000 if you use yesterday's "GLOBAL WARMING" mantra.
If you use the newer "CLIMATE CHANGE" title, again the evidence shows there is no relationship: Since Katrina (Which was not a record strong hurricane) it has been relatively quiet. Droughts, fires, tornados and floods have not increased either. In fact past records show that severe climate activity (Hurricanes) was more pronounced during the colder period of 1945 to 1980.

2- We are running out of fossil fuels.
Natural gas and especially coal which can be easily transformed into fuel are still quite plentiful. The arctic has yet to be explored for oil and there is lots of oil discovered which has yet to be tapped because of environmental/political reasons (US COASTS AND ALASKA FOR EXAMPLE).

3-It is a left wing/World banks/UN plan that's been in the works for decades. The goal: To socialise/control the western world by wealth redistribution. There are facts that construdes this. The UN's Maurice Strong's and others vision of world socialism under one government is one of them.

4- It's all about profitiring: The likes of Al Gore and other business con artists who see the opertunity of making big bucks by riding a lie of their own construct and/or the scientific community addicted to public tax funded "research" grants.

Right now I sit in the camp of the combination of both number 3 and 4. I will believe in "global warming" when it is constantly getting warmer even if it moves so slow I am not affected in my lifetime of even my grandchildren's lifetime. You can't have a period of warming and then of cooling and say that the world is constantly getting hotter. Although it has been debunked as pure myth that hurricanes and other events are linked to increasing Co2 emissions, again a steading increase and acceleration in frequency and intensity is simply not witnessed.

As a professional engineer (registered in QC), I would like to express my deep appreciation to Brian Pratt and the Sask society.

if I tried to promulgate something like this in QC, I would probably be run out of the OIQ

"[So, if anthropogenic CO2 is not driving
climate change, why do most Western
governments—with the notable exception
of Václav Klaus, president of the Czech
Republic—continue to fall over themselves
in support of the belief of anthropogenic
global warming..."

They probably also believe they look good naked in front of a mirror..... a delusion is never apparent to its owner.

The promulgation of scientific lies is never justified.

But Left-Wing Extremists will use any excuse to justify lying. Not that they think they need an excuse, for they believe they're somehow entitled to lie to get what they want and get away with it.

Climate Change is simply an extension of the Liberal Left's doctrine of social and political intolerance that they always accuse the right of.

The left cannot understand or even tolerate that anyone anywhere looking at the same situation or data could come to a conclusion that differs in any way from theirs.

If you do you are attacked and must be marginalized quickly. Debate is silenced by claims of "time for debate is over".

If the right made this claim we would be run under by every leftist organization on the planet in an orgy of ever increasing claims of insanity and fascist dictatorial plans.

Conversations about anything on a National/World scale are frowned upon as is tolerating the introduction of these ideas that run counter to liberal conclusions to the education system.

Dissent is only the right of the left.

Once you understand that the key to defeating them becomes apparent, calm rational and relentless statements of your opinions and data.

Their response will rise in fervor and shrillness until they tip their hands and say something so ridiculous that they themselves become marginalized.

This has been the boom and bust cycle of such movements, like Environmentalists, for decades.

when those in the scientific community are so poorly informed and doing such a half assed job how can anyone with any critical analysis skills listen to anything they say. what would you do to those who would make it necessary for you to freeze in the dark?

Our new rent seeking Masters . . . same as the old ones.

"President Dwight D. Eisenhower, in his farewell address to the nation in 1961, gave a warning

“that public policy could itself become the captive of a scientific-technological elite.” He said – “Partly because of the huge costs involved, a government contract becomes virtually a substitute for intellectual curiosity. ...

The prospect of domination of the
nation’s scholars by Federal employment, project allocations, and the power of money is ever present – and is gravely to be regarded.”

Nearly all of your nation’s scholars and scientists owe their primary livelihood to the involuntary generosity of the taxpayer. Some of your rent-seeking, scientific-technological elite, taking willful and shameless advantage of the taxpayer’s largesse and of the scientific illiteracy that is now widespread, are
mightily enriching themselves by misleading your Congress into appropriating disproportionately large sums to permit them to address the non-problem of anthropogenic “global warming”.

read the whole letter

http://tinyurl.com/desc2o

Maybe a bit OT, but has anybody here previously encountered the expression "environmental racism"? Does anyone know what it means?

I had the misfortune yesterday to be held up on a roadway while a rag-tag gaggle of enviro-mutts paraded/sauntered across the road. Some of them were carrying placards that decried "environmental racism". So what is this supposed to mean?

The great delusion of the day.

"The goal: To socialise/control the western world by wealth redistribution...The UN's Maurice Strong's and others vision of world socialism under one government is one of them."

That nails it exactly.

The World Court, Kyoto, and International Carbon Taxes are all elements of giving up our sovereignty to world bodies. The media cheerleads in the background.

Kudos to Brian Pratt for the courage to speak the truth.

"The goal: To socialise/control the western world by wealth redistribution...The UN's Maurice Strong's and others vision of world socialism under one government is one of them."

That nails it.

The World Court, Kyoto, and International Carbon Taxes are all elements of giving up our sovereignty to world bodies. The media cheerleads in the background.

Kudos to Brian Pratt for the courage to speak the truth.

Dr. Pratt annoyed me when I studied under him at the U of S, mostly because he was a geologist who made fun of engineers and geophysicists -- and I was both.

That said, he is an expert in his field and knows what he's talking about. I would take his word on anthropogenic global warming over that of David Susuki or Al Gore at any given moment. If he doubts these claims, I suggest that we pay attention.

Fred nailed it when he brought up rent seeking. If you read the following article, as someone pointed, out these professionals are interested more in profiting from the scam rather than exposing it. My profession of forestry is no different. While anyone who has worked in a green house knows the remarkable benefits of growing trees in an enhanced CO2 atmosphere, most of the profession join in on the vilification of this essential life giving micro-nutrient to get in on the rent seeking, carbon sinking, cap and trading, lemming in the sea, nonsense.

Professional organizations are first and foremost rent seekers by definition. Another word for it is guild socialism.

Good for Dr Pratt.