The First American Prime Minister In Waiting

Wow, this Ignatieff really is just about as stupid as Dion. Heaven help us if this clown actually becomes Prime Minister.

Is Saskatchewan ready for a national potash tax ? Or a co2 storage tax ? An excessive water tax in Manitoba ? The possibilities are endless.

He's just telling the truth, and for a politician, that will get you in trouble every time.

mid island mike

This is a GIFT to the Conservatives, a GIFT comparable to those given by Stephane Dion.

Good news: Liberals don't win by telling the truth because voters are repulsed by the truth about them.

This is an even clearer statement than when Dion said he "might consider" raising the GST. Explosively clearer. I didn't see this coming, but I'm glad it came. Makes our job easier! I can visualize the Conservative "Truth About Iggy" ads now, and, thanks to the absent-minded Iggy, they don't have to be "negative". Wonder what funny picture of Iggy they'll use?

Anyway, my own two cents, given immediately after I found out...

http://thecanadiansentinel.blogspot.com/2009/04/liberals-would-raise-taxes-ignatieff.html

Hmm... I also can visualize Iggy's evil mastermind Warrin' Kitteneater pulling out his hair transplant right now... Priceless! He'll have to go back to the black-with-white-skull ballcap to hide the evidence of his self-destructive behavior...

A tax increase is not "inevitable".

The debt/deficit can be reduced by either reducing govt spending - which will happen automatically as (almost?) all of the federal stimulus is one time stuff or by capping spending and letting gross tax revenues grow to an amount greater than the fixed spending which will surely happen as the economy returns to a growth phase. This growth can be further accelerated and net revenues actually increases with well-placed tax cuts like reductions in capital gains and the introduction of income splitting.

The reason why the liberals want to increase taxes is not to reduce the debt/deficit sometime in the future but to increase the Feds spending capacity in order to squander it on more welfare state programs.

IOW he is imitating the current American POTUS in not letting a crisis go to waste.

Iggy is who we thought he was - a tax and spend liberal. The time has come for the CP to define Iggy before he gets the chance to define himself.

A wee bit OT: victor Davis hanson has an excellent column over at NRO entitled "the world's president".

Iggy is no dion ... but give him time. He signed up for the green shaft didn't he? He signed a lotta things ... but, but ...

Liberal rote is spend....it is just a question of whether dficits are in vogue or not. Right now the aren't so they tax and spend, in Trudeau's day deficit spending was the latest thing, so they spent.

Iggy is trying to poistion himself as responsible and trying to say again that the Liberals are responsible.

Inevitable end point of Iggy's policies, Gordon Brown and the UK. But we will have quite a party getting to Sovereign Default.

Iggy is as stunned as they get. At least Dion had the befuddled, stunned look when he simply couldn't believe you didn't drink the same bathwater as he did, "cause you don't love dis planet" Iggy, well Iggy is a different kettle of fish. He will say and do anything and everything as his prize is in what he thinks is his sight. I hope Jason Kenny is set on his case.

LPC or CPC, the private sector will pay, the public sector will go on strike and see their tax increase vanish with a consequent rise in pay.

I have started telling my kids to focus on getting a federal job and nhave cursed them away from entrepreneurialship..

I'm too tired for this crap and don't want my kids going thru the same pile. Someone else can carry the torch.

Please let Iggy keep talking about raising taxes. Please please PLEASE let it happen!

Go Iggy!

Words, words, words from Citoyen Dionky or STOPIGGY?

Stay IggyDionky!: "No Canadian is going to believe you.".
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"No one in their right mind wants to shut off the recovery by raising taxes in any form," he said, adding he's troubled by the $80-billion deficit run up by the Conservatives.

"No responsible politician looking at that number can excuse, forever and a day, raising additional revenue ... No Canadian is going to believe you.

"Once recovery is underway and we are still stuck in a structural deficit, then we would need expenditure review, cutting back government expenditure," he said." (ottawasun)

STAYIGGY.
You are homeless in LibLand.
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"My Last Post
April 10, 2009, 10:58 am
Filed under: Democratizing the Liberal Party

I thought about it off and on yesterday and finally decided last night that I no longer identify as a Liberal. I was going to write this blog last night, but I decided to wait to see what I thought in the morning. I still do not identify as a Liberal.

I was a member for decades until the undemocratic appointment of Ignatieff. The way that happened completely turned me off of the Party. It wasn’t as if there wasn’t a voice of reason explain why this was SOOO wrong. Rae was doing just that, and ironically I prefered Ignatieff to Rae in the race. Soon after that I was no longer a card carrying member but I still identified with the Liberal Party. I don’t anymore. I think this blog was part of the transitioning process.

From beginning to end that whole process has felt rather strange. Not being a card carrying Liberal after being one for decades felt very unusual. Now not identifying with the Liberal Party feels unusual as well, though I guess it is the next logical … inevitable … step. Going to another party isn’t an option. I’m middle of the road on the political spectrum and very progressive. So politically I’m homeless. (No, I’m not a Tory. I voted NDP once, but my political philosphy would very much line up with Trudeau, Chretien, Martin.)

I have more to say, but I also don’t feel much of a desire to say it. That will please some and be of absolutely no concern or interest to others. It’s like having a fight with a childhood friend and realizing you’re just not friends any more."
http://1anxiousliberal.wordpress.com/2009/04/10/my-last-post/

(H/T http://www.bluelikeyou.com/)

The MSM doesn't dissappoint.

Their story isn't "Iggy will raise taxes."

It's "Iggy is too smart to raise taxes"

Iggy writes the CPC campaign and keeps his spin doctors busy.

From the story:
'Mr. Ignatieff said many Canadians can't access EI because the standard for eligibility differs depending on where a person lives. In Southwestern Ontario there are six different standards, and 54 across Canada, he said.

“We think a national standard is fair,” Mr. Ignatieff said.'

Off topic and yet related: Iggy, tell me again how one standard for western grain farmers and another for those east of the lakehead is okay then? Why no national standard there, hmmmm?

Sheee-it Iggster! Yeah nothing sells during a recession like tax hikes...great seller there....where's did you get that idea from, free-basing katsmeat in a crack pipe?

Iggy demands the government inject massive amounts of tax payer money into the economy and then calls for a tax hike that withdraws money from the economy.
Iggy is starting to show is inner-Dion. What an idiot.

I'm glad you're all so confident. Barak Obama was promising tax increases, surrender, cap n'trade and a multi -trillion health care reform boondoggle and still got elected.

It doesn't matter what Iggy says, his votes are bought and paid for (a tax increase should do it). We are in a "cold civil war" for lack of a better term. The Liberals will continue to gain support, and by hook or by crook they will acquire power; then they will attempt to deliver the death blow to conservatives. They’d be foolish not to, it’s working in the States.

Present company excluded, central Canadians are not our chaps, brothers or friends. This is a shame, but it is not by our own hand. It is unfortunate that we have not learned Canada’s history lesson, and we continue to march head first into the predictable ambush. Once the Liberals have real power, the will make sure we can’t fight back.

I’m curious if there are any Conservatives out there(westerners) who don’t think: a Liberal government intent on harming western Canada is inevitable, sooner not later.

Leftist moonbat Riley questions Iggy's moral/mental probity.

That hoary cliche, "moral compass", is clanking like Scrooge's ghost round the neck of STOPIGGY.
Iggy's albatross: "moral compass".

Evidence adduced by Riley?
1. "Take Ignatieff's surprising defence of Brian Mulroney --".
2. "Once upon a time, Ignatieff championed a carbon tax which he now repudiates, suggesting bluntly that pragmatism trumps principle.

As he told one crowd: "I'm trying to get myself elected here, and if the public, after mature consideration, thinks (a carbon tax) is the dumbest thing they've ever heard, then I've got to listen." But it wasn't "mature consideration" that sank the tax; it was Harper's shrill, dishonest attacks."
3. "But this isn't Ignatieff's only course correction. Asked recently about Canada's continuing exports of cancer-causing asbestos, Ignatieff replied: "I'm probably walking right off a cliff into some unexpected political bog of which I am unaware, but if asbestos is bad for parliamentarians in the (Parliament buildings), it just has to be bad for everyone else. Our export of the dangerous product overseas has got to stop."

Perhaps after being reminded that the dwindling Quebec asbestos industry has long enjoyed the benevolent protection of his party, Ignatieff prevaricated:"

We rest our case.
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"Ignatieff's moral compass is lightly used
Susan Riley, Times Colonist"

"The intriguing question is whether he will end up confirming Harper's worst smears. The impressively agile Liberal leader may have a moral compass, but it does tend to veer crazily."
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Indiana: Absolutely. They can't win us over so they will punish us. Where's the money going to come from for their expensive new national daycare program, etc. etc.? From us.

If anyone Kinsella tax-and-spend Liberal, please phone 1-800-TAXMORE.

Soccermom

Correction, WE can't win them over!

This is about US and OUR choices. "They" are what "they" are, it's our own apathy that has shackled us. Confederation is our choice, we need to educate our families, friends and children about this. JMO

Indiana,

Liberals will take over Canada just like they did in the USA but not because they're smarter or more organized. It's because Conservatives like you are stupid, arrogant and stuck in an ideology that is no longer relevant.

Personally I'm a centrist that identiifes somewhat as a conservative but can't commit to rightoidness because it hasn't evolved with the changing times.

More STAYIGGY!:

"My Last Post".

Commenter:
"I too think it would be a shame to pack up and go. There are many unaligned or independent bloggers among Progressive Bloggers who can assess what is going on with Canadian politics without being bound by party speaking points or loyalty. There are others who remain Liberals but are committed to changing their party from within. My respect goes out to all those bloggers who are inspired to see decent political leadership in our country and progressive policies put in place. I’ve appreciated your honesty and insight.

(P.S. if Katie Shaidle of Five Feet of Fury is running Opinions Canada, I would advise all of you from staying out of that cesspool.)
Comment by Beijing York April 10, 2009"
http://1anxiousliberal.wordpress.com/2009/04/10/my-last-post/

Stirred

Stirred, please explain to me how Alberta separating is a left/right or a partisan issue.

Without going into detail, almost everyone I've spoken to, left or right, see the benefits of some form of separation. I have spoken to at least 100(conservatively haha) people in Saskatchewan and Alberta and I haven’t found one person who is against separation. I know it’s anecdotal, but I’ve been interested in this issue for years, and I trust you’ll take my word that I’m not b.S’ing you. Alberta Dippers, Libs and Cons have paid 200Billoin+ into Confederation since the 70’s. They don’t care in Quebec who is paying, so voting Lib or Dip out west makes you(not you) a useful idiot.

I disagree with you that "saving for retirement is stupid", and I disagree that "conservatism" which is the philosophy of conserving is irrelevant. I suspect that conservatism will become very relevant(I don’t mean politically, I mean practically) as times get tough. It is actually as close as a atheist like myself will admit to some type of nonnegotiable natural law. Socialism is manmade like religion; whereas, supply and demand is natural law like evolution. Surely you can see this. Surely you can see the contradiction in your philosophy.

As far as the ad homonyms’ go, “Stupid is as stupid does”. If I’m stupid what does that say about you, who I’ve agreed with at times publically?

"Personally I'm a centrist that identiifes somewhat as a conservative..."

Which part? And how are the Liberals or the Democrats assuaging your conservative side?

Indiana Homeboy: Present company excluded, central Canadians are not our chaps, brothers or friends.

Um, you did read the last election's results, didn't you? The one where all those maligned Ontario voters sent 51 Conservatives to parliament, many more than the 38 Liberals? And two Liberal wins in Brampton were by less than 1,000 votes combined over the Tories, else the numbers would be even better. And I can guarantee, most Ontario voters don't read SDA (although I wish they did).

Iggy..Couldn't beat Dion so had to be annointed.

Hmm... I also can visualize Iggy's evil mastermind Warrin' Kitteneater pulling out his hair transplant right now... Priceless! He'll have to go back to the black-with-white-skull ballcap to hide the evidence of his self-destructive behavior...

Kinsella has a rug? For real?

Liberal Iggy: Iggy "spit".

Iggy:
I am not now; nor, have I ever been a member of the Canadian Tea Party.
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"About those taxes (IV)

Meet John K. Bell. He’s the Cambridge businessman who asked Michael Ignatieff a question yesterday that prompted an answer that may or may not be the single most controversial thing any Canadian politician in recorded history has ever said."

"Bell: Let me just talk you through it, the way I recall this whole thing. He gave a speech which was half tight and good, which I was impressed with, and then half pretty scrappy and very political … But one of the things he said [was] that he was thinking the big picture and the long term. And from that I thought, oh boy, this is good. So mine was a very honest question. I was looking for a strategic vision, because he was talking strategically, big picture. So I framed the question as I’m going to ask this on behalf of my children and… well, there was no vision and there was no answer and certainly he had no strategy or good answer. So I was very disappointed, he was really scrambling for a response, and I think the other people in the room were somewhat disappointed as well. So what started as being impressive was not so when it ended.

Me: So, just to clarify, what exactly was your question?

Bell: My question was, with the massive deficits that are piling up … how do you intend to deal with the debt and is this going to burden future generations, are you going to burden future generations? And the way I said that is that I’m asking that on behalf of my children. And that’s why, further in his response, he said he did not intend to burden our children with that responsibility. But he didn’t say how.

Me: So this was a fairly long answer?

Bell: Yes, it was a long answer. It wasn’t crisp and clear and articulate. He didn’t articulate a strategy or a vision, so it appears that he doesn’t have one, or the Liberal party doesn’t have one. And I was honestly hoping for an answer. I wasn’t there to trick me. Because I’m very worried about this.

Me: So at the end of this he spits out this line about possibly raising taxes?

Bell: Yes. He said, I certainly wouldn’t rule that out.

Me: Was it qualified, as in if X doesn’t work or Y doesn’t work, then we may have to raise taxes?

Bell: No, he was not definitive. At that stage of the response, he was scrambling to say something, so he spit it out, I think a couple of times."
urlm.in/ccmj
STOPIGGY.

“Aw, people can come up with statistics to prove anything, Kent. Forty percent of all people know that.” – Homer Simpson

Sure KevinB, and only 42% of healthcare dollars are spent on woman’s health. What I failed to tell you is the other 58% of that money goes into the general pot, and what you failed to tell us is that not only did Ontario elect 38 Liberals, but they also elected 17 Dippers.

That isn’t the point, I’m past semantics on this issue. Quoting the last election results doesn’t change the fact that Canada is bad for western Canadians. What I was trying to express above is this is “our” issue, no amount of pomposity from the east or naivety in the west will change that. I could change political stripes today and lead the Alberta’s socialist party, Ontario/Quebec could make a hard right turn and it doesn’t change anything. What is good for central Canada(economically speaking) is bad for western Canada, what’s good for western Canada is bad for central Canada. We are not “birds of a feather” we are geographical and cultural competitors.

What I'm saying is we don't supplement each other; actually, central Canada obstructs our “progress”. Ironic isn’t it?

"Ignatieff fires back at Tories over torture

Liberal leader Michael Ignatieff flatly rejected Conservative suggestions he is ambiguous on the question of torture, accusing the Tories of lying."
(nnw)

Iggy:
I am not now tortured; nor have I ever been tortured by a "Tories"; to the best of my recollection; and that's the truther.

BTW, how do you like the MSM's alliteration, "Tories over torture", of which they are so fond.

The Green Shaft was Iggy's idea and Dion's downfall.

Iggy can speak English, but when he does speak it comes out of both sides of his mouth.

"Iggy : Not A Leader 2", a dark comedy coming to a theater near you.