Y2Kyoto: The Duluth To Sault Ste Marie Great Prius Race

My favorite comment in the thread was the guy who said he lived on Lake superior, and that it was a warm winter, and he could see that it wasn't frozen over by looking out his window. Talk about "deniers"

The amount of ice in the Great Lakes does not auger well for an early spring in my part of the world -- eastern Ontario. It will take a lot of heat from the air to melt that ice thus delaying any warm-up in this region unless we get some nice, steady southerly flows. It has been a long, cold winter here but we have not had as much snow as usual -- certainly nothing like the 51 cm dump we got exactly one year ago.

Right now we could use some of that global warming the scare-mongers and addle-brained (hello Prince Charles) are always prattling about.

Growing up in that neck of the woods, we didn't really care of the lake froze over completely as long as there was enough ice in the harbour to ice race cars. I do remember that with the exception of some shallow and sheltered bays, Lake Superior was a good place to keep your beer cold.

George asks, "*Who are you going to believe, me or your own eyes?"

The following is at the end of the Guardian's report.
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"How we deal with climate change: denial

Academics meeting in Bristol at the weekend for Britain's first conference on the psychology of climate change argued that the greatest obstacles to action are not technical, economic or political - they are the denial strategies that we adopt to protect ourselves from unwelcome information. Nearly 80% of people claim to be concerned about climate change, but many people have a tendency to define this concern in ways that keep it far away. They describe climate change as a global problem (not a local one) and as a future problem (not one for their lifetimes). And 60% of people believe that "many scientific experts still question if humans are contributing to climate change" while 30% believe climate change is "largely down to natural causes". Seven per cent deny climate is changing at all.
George Marshall

• George Marshall is founder of the Climate Outreach Information Network"

"Czech leader joins meeting of climate change deniers"
http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/2009/mar/09/climate-change-deniers

(*H/T Groucho Marx)

The resolution of those images always amazes me.

I can actually see the area of fields where my 180 acres sits on that image.

I didn't have to drive the 12 miles north to Lake Superior to know it had nearly frozen over. I live in one of the lake-effect snow belts and the snow machine essentially shut off about two weeks ago. Good thing because we are over 200 inches for the winter and I was running out of places to push the snow.

A melt-down, of sorts, started two days ago and it's beginning to look like spring.

This past winter, according to my fuel oil consumption, was one of the coldest in the last 6 years.

Lots of good black strong ice on Lk Simcoe, almost 2 feet thick all the way across.
Exceptionally good consistant ice making all year long here.

Lake Erie is also experiencing one of it's best ice seasons in a long time.

Click on the Great Lake in your area, for up to date satellite ice images.
http://coastwatch.glerl.noaa.gov/modis/region_map.html

"There is a 50-50 chance of temperature rises reaching dangerous levels over the next century, climate scientists have warned. "

From the UK Times via Nat'l Newswatch.

Does this indicate a lack of confidence in their predictions?

Or is is hedging your bets?

When they go through the ice?

Wouldn't that be environmentally bad?

"Obama Aims to Shield Science From Politics"

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/03/08/AR2009030801476.html

What are the odds that he is not lying? I would say about 0%. What he is doing is "shielding science form politics he doesn't like." Otherwise he wouldn't have a guy who compares coal cars to the death trains of the holocaust in political speeches in charge of the surface temp records.

If he fires Hansen, I will take back that Obama is lying. I am not worried about the possibility.

-30C AND WINDY IN SASKATOON TODAY.

We had an ice breaker run up the Grand River from Lake Erie a couple weeks ago to break up the -second- ice dam this year. The first one was at Christmas time.

The Grand gets pretty ugly when it floods, let me tell you. If not for the ice breaker, we'd have lost every bridge from Brantford to Dunnville. Talk about economic stimulus projects.

-3c in Mission, B.C. today, and lightly snowing currently. It snowed yesterday too.

My December/2008 gas bill was well north of $300 as a result of that extremely cold, snowy and wonderfully wintery month. It has never been more than $200 in a single month during previous winters.

I know this is all anecdotal, but AGW troofers use weather events and anecdotal evidence to "prove" their claims. So, I am going to do the same in an effort to demonstrate how full of shitt they are.

How do you catch Al Gore?
Sneak up behind him and kick him in the ice hole.

Hey how about Palin and her dogsled versus a Prius?
That would be great!

Palin would kick some serious a$$.
Yay for old technology.

Hey, at least my Prius will start while all the electronics on your 1 ton NA diesel's transmission crater :D Imagine this present cold snap without the AMO being warm and protecting the Niagra Penninsula. Just wait a couple years and we'll get to see what that is like. Shoot, it will be cool to see Iceland fused to Greenland!

I used to drive betweeen Duluth and the Soo a few times a year. They even built a highway (US 2) just to make it easier. I believe you were thinking of the Great Marquette-Marathon Black Ice Rally.

I used to drive betweeen Duluth and the Soo a few times a year. They even built a highway (US 2) just to make it easier. I believe you were thinking of the Great Marquette-Marathon Black Ice Rally.

My son-in-law's VW diesel UFO [unidentified-fxcked-up-object] POS couldn't start at -20 observed so diesel technology isn't all that intriguing from my perspective. A good place for a Prius would be at the bottom of one of those terminally polluted inland seas in Russia or one of it's long-suffering ex satellites.