When it finally becomes clear that all of this is one big scam, Cult of Global Warming leaders like Hansen should be tossed into prison for fraud and extortion...if not conspiracy...leading to waste of tens of billions of dollars.
Fortunately he was never elected. I can see him acting like Chavez and declaring that democracy is great as long as the majority of people agree with you. When this is no longer the case you set new rules. To my global warmist friends I would just ask you to (a) convince me that the earth is warming (b) show me its manmade (c) explain to me why more CO2(plant food) and balmier temperatures would be the catastrophe you predict. I'm just sitting here in central Sask. waiting for spring after a record breaking cold winter.
That it is a scam is already clear...IMO...not until the "Cult of Global Economic/Financial Cooling" (to the tune of trillions) is imprisoned for fraud, extortion AND conspiracy will there be time to deal with the "Cult of Gore" !!
I recall a discussion years past (60's) with some lefties in the dorm. they proposed all sort of progressive agenda's. When it was pointed out that the population wouldn't cooperate......
They simply blurted----"then they will have to be forced".
Nothing seems to have changed----democracy is an easily discarded inconvenience to them.
Having a stupid opinion like this clown and the Gore/Suzuki cabal was at one time harmless, we all laughed at the idiots, some felt sorry for the dullards, but generally the local nuts were ignored. Now that journalists are the dullards and easily duped fools, liars,crooks and publicity seekers are elevated to something to be revered by the imbicile media, and we have this mess. All very laughable if it was not in part behind the world economic wreck. Ratings, are all that matter to these purveyors of lies in the media, just look at Adler put his finger in the wind when his ratings are down.
Hansen say "The democratic process is supposed to be one person one vote, but it turns out that money is talking louder than the votes..."
It's true -- if you look at opinion polls, in the US in particular, global warming disappears off the bottom of the charts in terms of what people are concerned about, meaning, people have no interest in emptying their wallets to pay for vast, fraudulent scams.
I agree with Hanson on only one thing. The Cap & Trade is the biggest turd in this whole charade of junk Science. It will not reduce carbon but have the opposite affect. We would need to have a Carbon Market that rewards the reduction of Carbon, such that share value goes “up” when the carbon footprint goes “down”.
The planned trading of Carbon Shares is in fact "Betting against America". Once the market is active all serious research & new technology will be discouraged. The costs will just be passed on to consumers. The Carbon price & use will just go up and up and America will be sucked dry.
A) Nuclear energy would be a threat to the price of the Carbon Market.
B) New Energy Sources would be a threat to the price of the carbon Market.
C) The carbon Market will want to allow drilling, but the Green Heads will oppose.
I don't trust a group of Chicago gangsters to run any trading Market.
Maybe we can Bernie Madoff with Billions to run the Cap n Trade Carbon market. It would have the exact same deleterious effect on the health of the US economy.
Money down the drain, as if we haven't seen enough of that already.
Cheers
Hans-Christian Georg Rupprecht, Commander in Chief
"The democratic process doesn't quite seem to be working,"
Of course the democratic system never seems to work in favor of the crisis creators who pimp alarmism for power and profit.
Democratic systems promotes debate and critical thought and most fallacious propaganda can't make it past the debate stage to a vote...but if it does, the very wary and scam-weary voter usually can smell the rat in the corn....or in this case the turd at the center of AGW hysteria.
Could somebody(Kate,Ron in Kelowna,speedy,ET)please answer this question for me......which is more dangerous to western society...Islamofacists or the Goracle/Fruit Fly Guy??? We can't shot the diaperheads,thanks to multiculti,and the AGWmongers want us all thrown in jail.Will agree with Hansen,though.Democracy cut its own throat.
I find it ironic that a man elected to nothing faults democracy. It seems that the people that have been elected have gone too far with the cap and carbon trading as it is. Hansen..you lie. Hansen you were caught. Hansen you get the memo? No? Ask Al or Dave for a resend.
The Glib & Flail has a new "Public Policy Wiki" on Climate Change that is sooooooo one-sided it needs to be "helped". Right now its three Environmental Profiteers, including Dr. Fruit Fly, holding court.
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This is why I love movies like "Syriana" and "Body of Lies" - for their comedy value. A guy can "go rogue" and start advocating mass civil disobedience, in the press, daily, and NOTHING is done, never mind some tech-nerd in a CIA back office using a joystick to drop a guided missile onto his car.
Damn it, if only it really DID happen in the real world:
"Will none of the knaves eating my bread rid me of this troublesome physicist (n.b. he's not actually a climatologist)?"
I, for one, would like to see a photograph of the windmill that Hansen uses to power the computer that processes the model on which he bases his catastrophic predictions.
What makes you think this guy is a problem for governments?
I mean he's creating public hysteria over a fabricated crisis which calls for, at minimum, massive government intervention and expansion and, at maximum, suspension of elected government and the constitution and erection of an eco-police state to "cope" with this issue.
This is a statist's wet dream...I can think of no modern big-government politician or bureaucrat who would refuse help in extending their power and securing their sinecure.
This is the reason that big government always listens to the whack jobs and ignore reasoned voices. Crisis expand government.
"You never want a serious crisis to go to waste ... This crisis provides the opportunity for us to do things that you could not do before." - Rahm Emanuel
I, for one, would like to see a photograph of the windmill that Hansen uses to power the computer that processes the model on which he bases his catastrophic predictions.
Posted by: shaken at March 20, 2009 9:38 AM
LOL shaken, it'd take a head x-ray to view the 'wind power' generating hansen's thoughts. Must be lots and lots of space for pinwheels to host multitudes of fan blades spewing forth the B$ from it's orifices.
I guess when a party one disagrees with wins an election, that is more proof democracy isn't working.
The is an old saw. When someone can't convince the public of its goofy ideas, then it's man the barricades time. You know, we tried everything else, so our act is that of desperation.
Sound familiar? I believe OBL using the same schtick.
Realizing one has been taken in by a scam causes incoherent actions.
First, denial and continuing to put money in the "machine" (AGW taxes, windpower, ect).
Then, they become quite, try to hide their being taken for a sucker.
Then, they get real pissed and turn on the scamer (Gore et al). Mutiny even. Civil disobedience.
The final stages involves trying to wreck what others have built. Misery loves company thing. Anonymous trolling being the final stage - admitting they are a looser.
"Gallup poll: For the first time among U.S. voters in 25 years, economy takes precedence over environment"
But, don't worry 'bout it, because: It's the economy, stoopid!
>>> "The reason for this shift in priorities almost certainly has to do with the current economic recession. The findings reflect many recent Gallup results showing how primary the economy is in Americans’ minds, and help document the fact of life that in times of economic stress, the public can be persuaded to put off or ignore environmental concerns if need be in order to rejuvenate the economy."
If you add up all the money I spent employing construction workers, electricians, neavy equipment operators, you would see that the amount of money I spent was very high on local business, and very little on foreign oil and imports.
Making your home energy efficient not only stimulates the local economy, it saves you money for decades.
You hear many people incorrectly say that somehow being green will destroy our way of life, but then many people's way of life was already destroyed by invading Iraq.
Freed Iraqis beg to differ with ya, come lately.
What about the millions killed under saddam, including gang raping your wife before your eyes, eh? Then killing her.
Then throwing you off a building, while they slaughter your children...
Guess the BDS meds are on back order?
Or is this the throngs of laid off scribes?
Would explain the out of date neediness.
"but, but, but, wha..what about me me me .... and invading Iraq, sniff."
my son-in-law was all for them thar EXPENSIVE windows,over the cheepies, until I stat the lad down and ran him some numbers
a) the return on dollars spent, well, I'd luv to live to that age
b)the house will be torn down before the return will relize the initial investment ,never mind factoring the value of a dollar,so it would equal a net loss,not just for the buyer, but also the "green" value
so maybe you wanna try again, after you've boned up on your ecomonics
You guys are all wrong. Don't you know the heartbreak of global warming is now really being felt in Calgary.
I have been carefully tracking the data over the last 4 days and have built a computer model (using a computer hundreds of times more powerful than anything in the 80's).
I can tell you now that my model predicts noon temperatures of over 60 degree Celsius within 30 days. Unless drastic measures are taken, we are all doomed.
Well then, how come we stopped at Iraq? The mistreatment of women goes on all continents, and the dictators slaughter their own people by the 100s of thousands, so why are we not invading these countries?
Just look at the human traffic on the USA southern border?
I know, the Mexican oil supply is dwindling, no need to help there.
Bone up on the economics of energy efficiency?
By reducing my consumption I reduce our dependance on our military to slaughter other nations for oil... priceless.
Ask the surviving children the difference between their parents being killed by Saddam or Bush. Go ahead, ask them the difference.
Wow, Earl E - an unmedicated schizoid who shoots smack as soon as he rolls out of his filthy cot and then slumps down to to the park bench to down his Baby Duck and rave at passersby actually EMPLOYS people?
Sorry asshat, you started the ad hominems. Welcome to your nightmare: finding out the people who loathe your belief system are smarter AND funnier than you.
BTW Earl, you utter knob, EXCELLENT suggestion about invading and toppling the governments in all those other countries. We'll put you in the front line,s a pusillanimous no-balls caitiff like you could use a bit of real-world experience - as opposed to the fairytale castle you inhabit inside your pointy little skull.
"Serve a filth"??? Bet your name isn't REALLY Earl - maybe Muhammad - guess it won't be too long before you jon teh ranks of other "liberals" like anarchore and start dragging "the Jews" into your so-called arguments...
Or maybe you're just a f*cking dummy with a lousy vocabulary! :D
Hey Earl - though you're off-topic by many thousands of kilometers and a preschooler could see through the puerile redirection tactics you and your kind always use in these discussions - have you ever actually ASKED anyone in the military if they despise themselves as much as you so clearly despise them for the job they do?
Don't bother answering, we already know. I can't think why you idiots keep showing up here, you're way out of your depth. This isn't the children's hour "Earl", you big bad Internet tough guy you. FOAD, fool!
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Count me suprised at Hansen's actions. I could never have seen this coming.
Kermit says: "it ain't easy being green".
When it finally becomes clear that all of this is one big scam, Cult of Global Warming leaders like Hansen should be tossed into prison for fraud and extortion...if not conspiracy...leading to waste of tens of billions of dollars.
I guess the climate fear mongers feel a hammer over the head will set you thinking right faster than their pushing of corrupted data..
Them: the earth is warming, the data proves it..
Us: your data is flawed, and mostly made up..
Them: you're a climate denier!..
Us: now you're desperate..
Them: i know where you live..
Nice planet you got there chum, shame if som'thin were to happen to it like..
Fortunately he was never elected. I can see him acting like Chavez and declaring that democracy is great as long as the majority of people agree with you. When this is no longer the case you set new rules. To my global warmist friends I would just ask you to (a) convince me that the earth is warming (b) show me its manmade (c) explain to me why more CO2(plant food) and balmier temperatures would be the catastrophe you predict. I'm just sitting here in central Sask. waiting for spring after a record breaking cold winter.
Springer,
That it is a scam is already clear...IMO...not until the "Cult of Global Economic/Financial Cooling" (to the tune of trillions) is imprisoned for fraud, extortion AND conspiracy will there be time to deal with the "Cult of Gore" !!
Cheers
I recall a discussion years past (60's) with some lefties in the dorm. they proposed all sort of progressive agenda's. When it was pointed out that the population wouldn't cooperate......
They simply blurted----"then they will have to be forced".
Nothing seems to have changed----democracy is an easily discarded inconvenience to them.
I see that the Guardian's own commenters see through Hansen's fraud also.
I am sure the Warmongers, who suckered their followers, are feeling uneasy as the scam unravels. They may indeed be lynched.
Job applicant, resume; Er, ahhaw, well, for half my "working" life I spread Gore's word that the end is here.
Having a stupid opinion like this clown and the Gore/Suzuki cabal was at one time harmless, we all laughed at the idiots, some felt sorry for the dullards, but generally the local nuts were ignored. Now that journalists are the dullards and easily duped fools, liars,crooks and publicity seekers are elevated to something to be revered by the imbicile media, and we have this mess. All very laughable if it was not in part behind the world economic wreck. Ratings, are all that matter to these purveyors of lies in the media, just look at Adler put his finger in the wind when his ratings are down.
Hansen say "The democratic process is supposed to be one person one vote, but it turns out that money is talking louder than the votes..."
It's true -- if you look at opinion polls, in the US in particular, global warming disappears off the bottom of the charts in terms of what people are concerned about, meaning, people have no interest in emptying their wallets to pay for vast, fraudulent scams.
Perhaps the Hoax will be killed off in living rooms.
Mrs Gore; " Albert, they are on to you. Give it a rest."
Mrs Suzuki; " Any openings at a fruit fly lab, Dave ? After the court battles we are going to need something."
Mrs Hansen: "Jimmy, the jig is up. Let's get outa here - flee to south America before they come for us."
Mrs Strong; " Moey, you just thought they were listening to you. They were just staring at you because they fried their brains in the sixties."
I agree with Hanson on only one thing. The Cap & Trade is the biggest turd in this whole charade of junk Science. It will not reduce carbon but have the opposite affect. We would need to have a Carbon Market that rewards the reduction of Carbon, such that share value goes “up” when the carbon footprint goes “down”.
The planned trading of Carbon Shares is in fact "Betting against America". Once the market is active all serious research & new technology will be discouraged. The costs will just be passed on to consumers. The Carbon price & use will just go up and up and America will be sucked dry.
A) Nuclear energy would be a threat to the price of the Carbon Market.
B) New Energy Sources would be a threat to the price of the carbon Market.
C) The carbon Market will want to allow drilling, but the Green Heads will oppose.
I don't trust a group of Chicago gangsters to run any trading Market.
"The democratic process doesn't quite seem to be working", because the common people are showing disagreement with James Hansen?
Who died and made him Emperor?
Phillip:
Maybe we can Bernie Madoff with Billions to run the Cap n Trade Carbon market. It would have the exact same deleterious effect on the health of the US economy.
Money down the drain, as if we haven't seen enough of that already.
Cheers
Hans-Christian Georg Rupprecht, Commander in Chief
1st Saint Nicolaas Army
Army Group "True North"
Jimmy Hansen. Once an eco-fascist, always an eco-fascist.
"The democratic process doesn't quite seem to be working,"
Of course the democratic system never seems to work in favor of the crisis creators who pimp alarmism for power and profit.
Democratic systems promotes debate and critical thought and most fallacious propaganda can't make it past the debate stage to a vote...but if it does, the very wary and scam-weary voter usually can smell the rat in the corn....or in this case the turd at the center of AGW hysteria.
Could somebody(Kate,Ron in Kelowna,speedy,ET)please answer this question for me......which is more dangerous to western society...Islamofacists or the Goracle/Fruit Fly Guy??? We can't shot the diaperheads,thanks to multiculti,and the AGWmongers want us all thrown in jail.Will agree with Hansen,though.Democracy cut its own throat.
This, at the same time populist anger has surfaced against Wall Street.
Do I detect a hint of clothes-borrowing?
I find it ironic that a man elected to nothing faults democracy. It seems that the people that have been elected have gone too far with the cap and carbon trading as it is. Hansen..you lie. Hansen you were caught. Hansen you get the memo? No? Ask Al or Dave for a resend.
Who killed Dendroctonus ponderosae?
Round up the usual suspects: Hansen, Goreacle, Suzuki, Moonbat, Dionky, .....
...-
"Scientists predict frigid cold has killed most mountain pine beetles in Alberta"
http://cnews.canoe.ca/CNEWS/Environment/2009/03/19/8814671-cp.html
The Glib & Flail has a new "Public Policy Wiki" on Climate Change that is sooooooo one-sided it needs to be "helped". Right now its three Environmental Profiteers, including Dr. Fruit Fly, holding court.
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This is why I love movies like "Syriana" and "Body of Lies" - for their comedy value. A guy can "go rogue" and start advocating mass civil disobedience, in the press, daily, and NOTHING is done, never mind some tech-nerd in a CIA back office using a joystick to drop a guided missile onto his car.
Damn it, if only it really DID happen in the real world:
"Will none of the knaves eating my bread rid me of this troublesome physicist (n.b. he's not actually a climatologist)?"
BOOM!
I, for one, would like to see a photograph of the windmill that Hansen uses to power the computer that processes the model on which he bases his catastrophic predictions.
Well said shaken. And on a calm day the enormous bank of batteries needed for his operation would have to kick in.
Shaken,
I'd rather see the windmill which is going to power Hanson's electric chair... lol.
MIchael H Anderson :
What makes you think this guy is a problem for governments?
I mean he's creating public hysteria over a fabricated crisis which calls for, at minimum, massive government intervention and expansion and, at maximum, suspension of elected government and the constitution and erection of an eco-police state to "cope" with this issue.
This is a statist's wet dream...I can think of no modern big-government politician or bureaucrat who would refuse help in extending their power and securing their sinecure.
This is the reason that big government always listens to the whack jobs and ignore reasoned voices. Crisis expand government.
"You never want a serious crisis to go to waste ... This crisis provides the opportunity for us to do things that you could not do before." - Rahm Emanuel
Does anyone else get the feeling that to these people, democracy means "if you agree with me, speak up and we get our way, if you don't shut up"?
Haven't heard from Doctor Fruit Fly lately. Is he compiling lists for the prisons? Or is he doing more Chicken Little Science for the cause?
I, for one, would like to see a photograph of the windmill that Hansen uses to power the computer that processes the model on which he bases his catastrophic predictions.
Posted by: shaken at March 20, 2009 9:38 AM
LOL shaken, it'd take a head x-ray to view the 'wind power' generating hansen's thoughts. Must be lots and lots of space for pinwheels to host multitudes of fan blades spewing forth the B$ from it's orifices.
I guess when a party one disagrees with wins an election, that is more proof democracy isn't working.
The is an old saw. When someone can't convince the public of its goofy ideas, then it's man the barricades time. You know, we tried everything else, so our act is that of desperation.
Sound familiar? I believe OBL using the same schtick.
Wow, I just landed in the wimper room. You guys need a tissue? No wonder your party flushed down the toilet...
I'm sorry, was this a novice writer's blog for unpublished script wannabees?
I'm laughing at all of these itsy bitsy thoughts...
heh, the public toilet scribes are up earl_y today.
Mus'ta pissed in their beds.
Not everyone arises as you do Idd-iot.
Two billion dollars.
What a coincidence.
Alberta ends Natural Gas rebate program that paid back $2B to Alberta consumers
Alberta to spend $2B for carbon sequestration
Realizing one has been taken in by a scam causes incoherent actions.
First, denial and continuing to put money in the "machine" (AGW taxes, windpower, ect).
Then, they become quite, try to hide their being taken for a sucker.
Then, they get real pissed and turn on the scamer (Gore et al). Mutiny even. Civil disobedience.
The final stages involves trying to wreck what others have built. Misery loves company thing. Anonymous trolling being the final stage - admitting they are a looser.
Incoherant actions:
Added triple pane windows, attic insulation, high-efficiency furnace, sunroom, started growing own vegatables, fruit, and fish...
Yes incoherant to someone raised on video games where all is virtual and nothing is real.
"Gallup poll: For the first time among U.S. voters in 25 years, economy takes precedence over environment"
But, don't worry 'bout it, because: It's the economy, stoopid!
>>> "The reason for this shift in priorities almost certainly has to do with the current economic recession. The findings reflect many recent Gallup results showing how primary the economy is in Americans’ minds, and help document the fact of life that in times of economic stress, the public can be persuaded to put off or ignore environmental concerns if need be in order to rejuvenate the economy."
http://wattsupwiththat.com/2009/03/20/gallup-poll-among-us-voters-economy-takes-precedence-over-environment/
If you add up all the money I spent employing construction workers, electricians, neavy equipment operators, you would see that the amount of money I spent was very high on local business, and very little on foreign oil and imports.
Making your home energy efficient not only stimulates the local economy, it saves you money for decades.
You hear many people incorrectly say that somehow being green will destroy our way of life, but then many people's way of life was already destroyed by invading Iraq.
cpt. capitalism has the answer: we hold leftard's like Earl_E's feet to the fire!
http://captaincapitalism.blogspot.com/2009/03/give-me-25000-or-environment-gets-it.html
Freed Iraqis beg to differ with ya, come lately.
What about the millions killed under saddam, including gang raping your wife before your eyes, eh? Then killing her.
Then throwing you off a building, while they slaughter your children...
Guess the BDS meds are on back order?
Or is this the throngs of laid off scribes?
Would explain the out of date neediness.
"but, but, but, wha..what about me me me .... and invading Iraq, sniff."
hey Early
my son-in-law was all for them thar EXPENSIVE windows,over the cheepies, until I stat the lad down and ran him some numbers
a) the return on dollars spent, well, I'd luv to live to that age
b)the house will be torn down before the return will relize the initial investment ,never mind factoring the value of a dollar,so it would equal a net loss,not just for the buyer, but also the "green" value
so maybe you wanna try again, after you've boned up on your ecomonics
Earl_E - name a sandwich after yourself!!!!
You guys are all wrong. Don't you know the heartbreak of global warming is now really being felt in Calgary.
I have been carefully tracking the data over the last 4 days and have built a computer model (using a computer hundreds of times more powerful than anything in the 80's).
I can tell you now that my model predicts noon temperatures of over 60 degree Celsius within 30 days. Unless drastic measures are taken, we are all doomed.
Freed Iraqis beg to differ with ya, come lately.
Well then, how come we stopped at Iraq? The mistreatment of women goes on all continents, and the dictators slaughter their own people by the 100s of thousands, so why are we not invading these countries?
Just look at the human traffic on the USA southern border?
I know, the Mexican oil supply is dwindling, no need to help there.
Bone up on the economics of energy efficiency?
By reducing my consumption I reduce our dependance on our military to slaughter other nations for oil... priceless.
Ask the surviving children the difference between their parents being killed by Saddam or Bush. Go ahead, ask them the difference.
Wow, Earl E - an unmedicated schizoid who shoots smack as soon as he rolls out of his filthy cot and then slumps down to to the park bench to down his Baby Duck and rave at passersby actually EMPLOYS people?
Sorry asshat, you started the ad hominems. Welcome to your nightmare: finding out the people who loathe your belief system are smarter AND funnier than you.
BTW Earl, you utter knob, EXCELLENT suggestion about invading and toppling the governments in all those other countries. We'll put you in the front line,s a pusillanimous no-balls caitiff like you could use a bit of real-world experience - as opposed to the fairytale castle you inhabit inside your pointy little skull.
How many times have you re-enlisted in the military Mr. Anderson? How many of your kids are serving right now?
I couldn't feel worse about volunteering to serve a filth like yourself.
"Serve a filth"??? Bet your name isn't REALLY Earl - maybe Muhammad - guess it won't be too long before you jon teh ranks of other "liberals" like anarchore and start dragging "the Jews" into your so-called arguments...
Or maybe you're just a f*cking dummy with a lousy vocabulary! :D
Hey Earl - though you're off-topic by many thousands of kilometers and a preschooler could see through the puerile redirection tactics you and your kind always use in these discussions - have you ever actually ASKED anyone in the military if they despise themselves as much as you so clearly despise them for the job they do?
Don't bother answering, we already know. I can't think why you idiots keep showing up here, you're way out of your depth. This isn't the children's hour "Earl", you big bad Internet tough guy you. FOAD, fool!
No more idiotic sophomoric redirection to blurt? Blow an artery, Earl? Or just pass out over your keyboard?
RUN, you worthless pathetic coward!