In Related News, Analyst Predicts Newsweek* Will Disappear Next Year

It's a new week. Hasn't Obama nominated a new private citizen for the "weekly hate"? I just can't keep up. Maybe sarge can let me know who it is cool to hate this week?

I recall Michael Coren relating a conversation he had with David Frum regarding abortion. ALbeit this was seveal years ago and is a second hand recounting. Mr. Coren was trying to impress upon Mr. Frum the humanity of the unborn child. David Frum's reply that he would not think about whether the unborn child is a unique individual for if he did it would mean that he would have to totally reorder his perspective not just on the issue of abortion but of life itself. Nice to know this esteemed thinker has the power to isolate basic premises of life and blissfully ignore their implication. I admit this is now a third hand recounting and Mr. Frum may have had a change of mind. However he seems to have fallen out of stead of a great many conservatives since his Axis of Evil days.

David Frums rants are just that , he is a bit player with an underlying love of liberalism. Look at his raisins folks, his mommy was such a Turdeau sycophant on her newscasts don't think that didn't rub off on little angry faced David. Him and his family remind me a lot of the other liberal lovin family in Winnipeg whose bank financed empire is falling down around them. They employ a strident liberal, Newman to give the nightly news and wonder why they are failing. People are sick and tired of liberalism and saving the planet, they want just to save themselves from losing their house. Be quiet spoiled little David.

As far as I am concerned, the Republican Party needs to cut loose from David Frum and all others like him.

Perhaps Frum's problem is that he can't shake his 'Canadianism'.

(That would work, except he's not the only one in that 'snobby without a cause' group.)

As someone pointed out last week, there's a difference between being a conservative (Rush) and being a Republican Party 'strategist'. Rush's apeal is to the 'real person' conservative . Not all conservatives will support the party, because they don't think the party represents them. If the party desires to represent them, they better get at the meat and potatoes of what Rush is saying, in his very appealingly direct and straight shooting manner.'Real person' conservatives, right after a win by liberals, are not in the mood for 'mamby pamby' strategists. They want free expression. Now's the time. (Noone's voting tomorrow...)

Same problem in Canada. There's a big difference between being a conservative, and supporting the CPC. People who wax wise about what the party 'needs ' to do, ought to keep that difference in front of them at all times. Mind you, its the rare Canadian that expresses something 'out of the realm of PC' . Most of those people read this blog!

Nicey nice saves so much trouble, but real life eventually catches up. Like now.

David Frum is dead wrong.

You got a defanged conservative in John McCain, and look what happened.

Frum? Never liked him. At least his mother knew where she stood. The GOP needs more Rush and less Jindal and Steele. Perhaps, in other words, instead of a creationist and a fellow traveller, they should be looking for a black Rush and not a fiscally conservative Obama.

I vaguely remember Frum being a stalwart in the Conservative trenches. He seems to have wandered off.

Rush wins heads down over David Frum. Rush remains consistent in his views, while David tends to go in the direction of the wind too often. The problem with the Republican Party is that it has too many Frums and not enough people like Rush.

If David were a tree he'd be a Red Maple, Canada's socialist plant.

Oh and uh Barry Goldwater sucked too.
http://www.thinkumentary.net/2009/03/01/david-frum-saboteur-extraordinaire/
Who cares what Newsweek and David Frum think of Rush.
A better question is ;
Does David Frum's Filipino nanny like Rush or not ?

Time for the Ontario PC's to get rid of the "P"s and US Republicans to get rid of the RHINO's .

David Frum is simply trying to get in the good books of his fancy Socialist buddies. He is no longer a conservative. He might as well join the rest of the Socialists tongue bathing Dear Leader.

Frum is not particularly receptive to any one's views but his own. Rush and Sarah are real people who can comfortably rub elbows with over 60% of the US population. Frum is comfortable with the urban elite only and likely most at home in a back room pulling the strings of power. I don't think he has much of a following, perhaps 0.1% of that of Rush. Frum is well on his way to obscurity.

The RNC certainly screwed up with the appointment Michael Steele. They really need to rise above the politics of identity. They need to reinvent themselves alright and they could do a lot worse than following Rush in doing so.

Who will disappear along with Newsweek? The leaders in the race to disappear are handicapped here:
http://news.yahoo.com/s/time/20090309/us_time/08599188378500

John Chittick: "They need to reinvent themselves ..."

I think Rush's point is that they don't have to reinvent anything - they only need to realign with the main conservative tent (none of that fringe or annex stuff).

David Frum needs a swift kick in the pants by his father-inlaw Peter Worthington.

apropos of nothing i remember barbara frum having a fone interview with hugh hefner....had to be 20 years ago....in the lead up to the real time interview she intimated she was going to kick some serious ass for some self perceived violation of good taste or sumpin or other....

let's just say hugh wore kid gloves while upsideslapping her around....

it was very edifying and gratifying...and fonny..

a truly horrible woman.....Gah! but her and that egregious smuck Gzowski used to get WAY up my nose....

Frum always seemed like a political dilettante to me.
Of course coming from a family that had one of the Ffounding Mothers of Canada......

Frum responds. Rush reacts.

Frum is someone you can have reasoned conversations with.
Rush doesnt listen - he just yells and yells and yells.

Frum is generally calm and collected.
Rush is generally agitated.

Frum is someone you can trust.
Rush is the amusingly agitated guy on the soapbox, but not someone you would take home to meet your family.

Frum has innovative ideas.
Rush has innovative criticism, but few, if any, fresh ideas.

Frum is the guy you could make Prime Minister.
Rush would be great as the Leader of Opposition and a disaster as Prime Minister.

One responds. One reacts. When was the last time a reactionary made a good leader?

"If the party desires to represent them, they better get at the meat and potatoes of what Rush is saying, in his very appealingly direct and straight shooting manner"

All he does is criticise. If the Liberals are in power he critiizes them for not being conservatives. When the conservatives are in power, he criticizes them for not being conservative. Amusing. But pointless.

"'mamby pamby'"

Denny Crane. I captain my own starship. Denny Crane.

"You got a defanged conservative in John McCain, and look what happened."

If Palin was in power, Rush would criticize her for not being conservative. Well he might ammend that to "conservative enough". You know its true. Regardless of her conduct, Rush would criticize her. He criticizes everyone. Its all he does. Might be those 'Liberal' drugs he occassionally takes. They're just not conservative enough.

As for Rush being comfortable with 60% of the population, when was the last time you were in aroom with him. Its one thing watching him rant on stage. Its quite another trying to have a civil conversation on anything. Unless of course, you are just repeating everything he says word for word.

Why not just pick Rush to head the party? Clearly he's the guy for 2012.

Nobody is even allowed to question the drug-addicted, Twinkie-munching, draft-avoiding (cuz his bum hurts), multi-divorcee hypocrite, so he sounds like exactly the sort of leader you guys would like to see run the party.

How's about this... find somebody who actually won't bring about the end of civilization as we know it through his pigheaded stupidity and hypocrisy?

"How's about this... find somebody who actually won't bring about the end of civilization as we know it through his pigheaded stupidity and hypocrisy?"

No need to worry, nobody was suggesting making you POTUS John.

As clearly indicated in two posts, some here know absolutely nothing about Frum or Rush.
Frum has lost respect and influence in the conservative arena. Rush IS the epitome OF the conservative arena. He articulates the thinking, convictions and ideas of conservatism. Frum is a fringe player and is really a liberal Canadian style. How he got that gig with the prez is beyond me but even that lasted only a year. I guess George got on to him early.
With his trashing of Palin and Rush Frum has laid the foundation of his demise of influence in conservative circles. Many just wish he would shut up and fade away... maybe Pa in law might give him a few pointers before he opens his mouth again. Anyone raised by Barbara Frum has got to be a liberal, at heart anyway, if not in fact.

"How's about this... find somebody who actually won't bring about the end of civilization as we know it through his pigheaded stupidity and hypocrisy"

Sounds EXACTLY like Barack Hussein Obama to me.

IF Rush were to ever run the Republican party or become it's head and run for Prez, he could work circles around that girly man called the prez today. There is such incompetency in Obama that Grandma Moses could do a better job, Never mind Rush. If he chose, Rush can work and run circles around that pathetic excuse for a president we have now.

"How's about this... find somebody who actually won't bring about the end of civilization as we know it through his pigheaded stupidity and hypocrisy?"

There are already lots of progressives more than able to do just that John , without even breaking out in a sweat. We don't need anymore.

David Frum is nothing more than a Republican Justin Trudeau.

"multi-divorcee hypocrite"

How is Rush a hypocrite on divorce? People keep calling Rush a hypocrite on this a hypocrite on that, but they never actually seem to have a quote to back it up. You would think that the ministry of hate would provide them with this kind of information, IF IT EXISTED.

As far as I can see, Rush has made three women millionaire ex wives, and had never had children. I just don't get the problem.

Frum has always been a polite debater of ideas. He is very conservative on fiscal and international issues but MOTR on the social ones - not unlike - as he has argued often - many people in the US. Cross-over issues like healthcare find him in the middle as well.

Where he seems to get tripped up is focusing on demographic analysis - much of his argument for change is that the highly-schooled types tend to be democrats whilst lesser-schooled ones are in the GOP's fold. While he argues that the gOP needs to compromise in order to attract the highly-schooled types I and many others argue that it is the teachers of these people that need to be addressed - they have been taught wrong-headed politics just as the mullahs in the mid-east fill university student's heads there with bunk.

Conservatism and the policies that spring from it aren't the problem (as Newt and others has amply demostrated in polling) it is the delivery of the message that has failed and continues to fail.

David Frum is falling for teh Joe Clark falacy.

"Be the same as the governing party and you will get elected".

Clarke was a Liberal in a blue suite.

The falacy is that conservatives win when they are conservative.

Liberal voters float around, conservatives stay home when their party isn't conservative. And no way liberals will vote "red tory" they can gop further left.

Mr. Frum's problem is the same as that of the Republican Party: they have abandoned conservatism. Rush hasn't departed the party; the party has departed him.

Frum "C" to flaming "L".

Seems like only yesterday that Frum was receiving accolades for his clear thinking. Oh wait! It WAS only yesterday....

To think that one could confuse a radio talk show host with the party?

Hmmm.. It may be said that guys like Rush are the the voice for hearts and souls of conservative America.... but they sure as hell do not have anything to do with that bunch of losers that constitute the GOP and especially the GOP RINOs in congress at this time.

Frum certainly is a LIberal sycophant ... never was anything else. Yet has he been accused of representing the LIberal party?

Not to my knowledge.

Just another MSMer stuck on stupid and adding to the pile of evidence that supports my assertion that as a group, the members of the MSM are the stupidest people in the world.

Frum is an impostor who is trying to stake out his claim to fame in unoccupied territory. He thinks bashing conservatives will make him as famous as that loser McCain.

Did any of you bother to read the article? He preempted your "he's a liberal" and a "RINO" comments.

He's not a liberal. He just doesn't think Rush will lead the party from the wilderness. And neither do I. Of course I've been accused of being a liberal as well. So I guess I'll join David on the sidelines.

Who is David Frum, and why is his head embedded in his nether regions?

Frum, Brooks, Parker .... they all should join the Scott McClellan phan club.

Losers.

"Frum has always been a polite debater of ideas. He is very conservative on fiscal and international"

Frum is not remotely conservative on fiscal issues. The good news is that if you don't like where Frum stands today, all you have to do is wait til tomorrow.

And I'm pretty sure that calling Rush a fat drug-addled degenerate is not really politely debating ideas. Not even by Canadian standards.

"He's not a liberal."

Nor is he a conservative.

"He is very conservative on fiscal and international issues but MOTR on the social ones - not unlike - as he has argued often - many people in the US."

The conservative position on the "social issues" is significantly more popular than the Republican Party. What drags the GOP down are exactly its positions on fiscal and international issues.

People keep calling Rush a hypocrite on this a hypocrite on that, but they never actually seem to have a quote to back it up"

sarge likes this one:"Too many whites are getting away with drug use...Too many whites are getting away with drug sales...The answer is to go out and find the ones who are getting away with it, convict them and send them up the river, too."
"When commenting on the death of musician Jerry Garcia, Limbaugh said he was just "another dead drug addict"

"in regards to drug use being a disease,rush said that he didn't "buy into the disease part of it". He said people are "making a personal choice" to do drugs and they "should be held responsible for it."

sarge sort of liked the one where rush refers to john kerry as a gigolo for marryin a rich lady but forgets to call john mccain a gigolo for marryin a rich lady nor has old rushbo accused any of his ex wives of bein whores, least not publicly

or this one... sarge seems seem to remembers in the '91 campaign old rushboy told them the Ditto heads to vote for Bill Clinton.

sarge thinks the best of all is old rushbo tellin us in 2001 thats its "time for critics to shut up and support the president" yet here old rushbo hopes the current president fails during time of war and exteme economic crisis sarge thinks someone might need to tar and feather old traitor rushbo