When I was a lad, I remember learning that scientists present a hypothesis, then they test it. If the test fails, the hypothesis may be wrong. But then, what did I know about these big people things, I was only a wee lad:
Without a large uptick in temperatures in the next few years, the modelers really have to go back to the drawing board (or they need to discover another “negative forcing” to keep the models on track to reality).
... for you warmists out there, admit it, you're praying for an "uptick" ... aren't you?
This seems like a relevant reference
Ike's not so famous second warning
http://tiny.cc/warning278
An uptick is also what you need when you want to short the shit out of a stock you think is headed for the basement...
tick, tok,
tick tok,
tok, tok, tok
Ain't no ticking going to be happening in the Global Church of Climate Scientology.
The sound you will be hearing in a few years is KABOOM as the lid is blown off the great scam perpetrated by the All-Do-Gooder International Environmental Industry, the greedy "I'll lie luck a cheap rug for a Grant" scientists and the slick ex politician snake oil salesmen getting rich peddling fear.
Just a matter of time before they invent a new even bigger lie to try and squirm out of their current pet scam.
Nyaaah... what's uptick?
Edward:
Actually, they got rid of the uptick rule in NYC some time ago, and only put restrictions back on shorts when the market started cratering last fall. I still think that there are no restrictions on shorts outside of a bunch of financials. On CNBC this morning, commentators were suggesting the uptick rule should be reinstated.
Now they'll have to start taking little blue pills to keep it going up...
You bet I want an uptick in warming! It's damn cold here in northern AB!
Whatever happened to acid rain? It was a huge concern along with noise pollution when I was growing up - have not heard a peep about it in decades.
The only two positive thoughts when we suffer through cold spells...."It should kill off some Pine Beetles"...and..."It should shut up the Global Warming crowd for a bit".
The 'new science' is a lot like the 'new dummocracy', if you don't like the results, fudge the numbers and recount.
Redefine your parameters and recount.
And recount and recount again until you like the results, then declare a victory.
"The only two positive thoughts when we suffer through cold spells...."It should kill off some Pine Beetles"...and..."It should shut up the Global Warming crowd for a bit".
Posted by: Gus at February 20, 2009 6:10 PM "
Gus...Part 1...yes...Part 2...no.Nothing will shut up the eco-freaks.
no-name:
Acid rain diminished greatly because most of the coal fired plants installed scrubbers and switched to cleaner coal, and because of emission controls on cars. It's still a problem, but not as acute as it was. Interestingly, some people think most of the acid rain that falls in Western North America now originates in China. It gets up into the jet stream and crosses the ocean. Just another reason why Kyoto is such a fraud, since China is now the largest emitter of CO2 and sulphur from dirty coal power plants, which are the largest components of acid rain.
These warmers are evil. They want to tax breathing. After all, if CO2 is pollution and must be taxed, then we, ourselves producers of CO2 through respiration, must also be taxed.
I expect joggers to be taxed more than me as they generate more CO2 by respiration than me.
Of course, you may consider it crazy for carbon-based life-forms to tax carbon.
I despise the warmers.
it is so simple folks. its obvious the carbon trading programs Al Gore put in are already working.
more tax and the temperature will be perfect year round worldwide.
sarc off
Why do Hansen/Gore/Suzuki etc sound like the guy in the TV cereal commercial....."Dad you shouldn't eat that.....THEY DID A STUDY......?????
I'd be willing to take Suzuki out on Lake Winnipeg..... leave him there ..... that'd be an up-tick of some sort .... I'm sure.
KevinB
Thanks for the info and reply.
Just so there's no misunderstanding, the regulatory controls that resolved the "acid rain problem" were targeted primarily at sulphur dioxide emissions, i.e. at controlling emissions of an actual pollutant. This was, by and large, a good thing. Nitrous compounds are bad for us, too, and nobody likes breathing mercury vapour (remember that the next time one of David Suzuki's eco-drones shows up at your front door with a "free" Made-In-China compact fluorescent lightbulb).
By contrast, the regulatory action currently being bandied about by the US EPA and signed into action by the Gubernator in California last December designates carbon dioxide a "dangerous pollutant" - despite the fact that
(a) there is no correlation between carbon dioxide and average global temperature over any time scale (except to the extent that, according to Antarctic ice core records from the past 400k years, increasing temperatures seem to drive increases in carbon dioxide concentrations - an unsurprising discovery given that the solubility of gases in water is inversely proportional to temperature);
(b) there is no experimental evidence demonstrating the radiative forcing theory upon which the whole of the anthropogenic global warming thesis rests;
(c) there is, however, a strong linear correlation between solar activity and average global temperature; and,
(d) there is experimental evidence to support the cosmic-ray cloud nucleation theory, demonstrating a mechanism whereby the Sun (because higher solar activity reduces the amount of cosmic radiation that strikes the Earth) can influence terrestrial temperatures (see Svensmark & Calder, "The Chilling Stars", or just google "SKY experiment").
There is also, incidentally, a strongly suggestive correlation between past historical temperature shifts and the passage of the Solar system through the spiral arms of the galaxy, as well as above and below the galactic plane - all events that alter the intensity of cosmic radiation impacting Earth - as well as archaeological evidence to support this thesis.
Varying solar intensity would also, incidentally, explain the observed temperature changes on Mars, Jupiter, Triton and Pluto. Unless the Spirit rover has been popping wheelies on the red planet, I can't imagine anthropogenic greenhouse gas emissions are responsible for the observed increase in atmospheric temperatures on Mars. And there aren't a lot of coal-fired power plants on Triton.
The AGW alarmists are ignoring a correlation supported by experimental data in order to continue to pin their hopes on a non-correlation unsupported by experimental data. This tells us a lot about their credibility as scientists. Of course, when Hansen writes in The Guardian about coal-carrying "death trains", or when The One blathers about lowering the oceans and healing the planet, it becomes clear that it's no longer about the science. It's about power.
" the regulatory controls that resolved the "acid rain problem" were targeted primarily at sulphur dioxide emissions"
Yes. The efficient solution would have been to switch from sulfur-laden Virginia coal to the much cleaner Colorado/Wyoming coal, which could then be burned by the power plants with much lower emissions rates. Politics, however, intervened. It was decreed that the power plants would install scrubbers at great expense, and continue to use "dirty" coal from Senator Bryd's district.
The more efficient marketplace solution was buried by politcal considerations. It was only the taxpayers money so what the hell.
The day will come when the denial that the earth is cooling is over. (I think it may have been last month already).
The question is, when that day comes, will the BC Government remove the carbon tax on gas, and, as logic would extend, in fact give out carbon CREDITS to encourage people to drive big, polluting SUV's to heat the earth up?
The gig is up, you shysters.
Will Al Gore be investigated for High Treason? After all, he keeps insisting the US must relinquish sovereignty... an act of treason, I'm quite sure. It's certainly against the constitution of EVERY country in the world.
Why isn't Dr. Fruitfly Suzuki up on Baffin Island reporting on Global Warming in person? That's where he belongs. Out of sight, out of mind. He's a dark, embarassing chapter in Canada's intellectual abilities.
OH NO, how can this happen:
Feb. 20 (Bloomberg) -- A glitch in satellite sensors caused scientists to underestimate the extent of Arctic sea ice by 500,000 square kilometers (193,000 square miles), a California- size area, the U.S. National Snow and Ice Data Center said.
The error, due to a problem called “sensor drift,” began in early January and caused a slowly growing underestimation of sea ice extent until mid-February. That’s when “puzzled readers” alerted the NSIDC about data showing ice-covered areas as stretches of open ocean, the Boulder, Colorado-based group said on its Web site.
Didn't John Uptick just die recently?
Justthinkin wrote: "Nothing will shut up the eco-freaks."
Parasites, however useful in nature, are almost totally useless when trying to justify themselves within a functioning, decent society.