More People Are Murdered By Islamists Each Year.

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... than in all 350 years of the Spanish Inquisition combined.

The Canadian Broadcast Standards Council sanctions talk radio host Lowell Green for noticing out loud.

You can send Mr. Green a message of support here and a running tally of this year's victims of the Religion of Peace to the CBSC here.

h/t Maz2


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The PC establishment strikes again.

PC is a disease.

The CBSC is clearly following in the dishonourable & despicable tradition of the HRCs. Reading through the CBSC document, I was struck by how bland and non-controversial they would love for all on-air discussions to be. In other words, they want all radio stations to become like CBC Radio 1 = BEYOND BORING!

Incidentally, to further illustrate what a complete sham the report is, the Appendix B they referred to is for another case. Inept bureaucrats all!

Exactly what did he say that wasn't factually correct? Regardless, of what the donkeys running whatever the hell the broadcast standards commission is. Everything he said is accurate.
He should be supported fully and completely

Lowell Green's topic/subject yesterday, Friday, was this:

"Child Porn Pandemic as Police Estimate 600,000 Americans, 65,000 Canadians Trading Child Porn Online

By Kathleen Gilbert

TORONTO, Ontario, February 6, 2009 (LifeSiteNews.com) - Ontario police yesterday celebrated the results of a province-wide child pornography bust, the largest in Ontario's history - yet officers acknowledge they have only scratched the surface of the massive underworld of child sexual abuse in North America.

Police officers said at a press conference Thursday that the sweep led to the arrest of 31 child sex offenders between the age of 14 and 60, as well as the rescue of two young victims, a 4-year-old boy and 12-year-old girl. The maximum jail time for creating and distributing child pornography is ten years, with five years for possessing images.

But the "huge" bust has hardly put a dent in the actual child pornographer population - which officials estimate at a staggering 600,000 in the U.S., and 65,000 in Canada. The profits for creating and trading images of often-violent sexual abuse of children, toddlers, and infants amount to an estimated $2- to $3-billion each year.

The child pornography unit of the Ontario Provincial Police (OPP) believes the 65,000 figure is very low, as 40,000 computers in Ontario alone are known to be used to access child porn.

“The OPP is arresting about 75 of these offenders a year, when we know there are tens of thousands of them,” said Inspector Andy Stewart in a Canadian press report, also calling the 65,000 estimate "very conservative."

“We’re never going to be in a position to arrest our way out of this," he said.

“There’s just not enough manpower to go and identify and arrest these 65,000 individuals,” said Paul Gillespie, former head of Toronto police's child exploitation unit, now president and CEO of the Kids’ Internet Safety Alliance. “That’s where it gets scary and people sort of change the channel, because they don’t want to hear that the police know there’s 65,000 suspects they’re never going to get to.”"
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2180390/posts

Taking Green's fight with CSBC is now out in the world, thanks to SDA.

And thanks for the CSBC email address as well Kate.

I have just emiled Green my support with a copy to the CSBC as well.

I wish Green would get support from MSM editorial board rooms on this matter , because that fight has now entered their very domain.

Gagging free expression in Canada!

Will Mr. Green research and report on the annual number of "global Christian suicide bomber events" in the past year?

[sic, for that part of the dialogue that has pronounced the Qur’an in an anglicized way, the spelling “Coran” is retained herein; elsewhere, the proper spelling “Qur’an”, that customarily used by the CBSC, is employed].
Apparently, not speaking Arabic and not transliterating Koran into English "properly" is also a hate crime.

About a year before he was voted out of office (I'm too lazy to track down the date, location, or exact numbers, but the tone of of the statement is reasonably accurate and just as insightful) Pervez Musharaf in addressing some Islamic council noted that of thirty conflicts then ongoing, that 23 of them involved Muslim forces. If anything, I would bet the percentage has grown even larger.
Truth no longer has any place in our politically correct, frre-speech-muzzeling society.

Freedom of speech is dead.

some interesting things here.


http://www.standpointmag.co.uk/node/809/full


britians stand against islam . but in 50 years they will be the majority just by birthrate

"... in 50 years they will be the majority just by birthrate"

Which is part of Mark Steyn's argument in America Alone.

If you read the CBSC's words carefully, you will see that they have done themselves, exactly what they accuse Green of doing - taking a position on Islam that represents a personal(institutional) view that in fact discriminates against any other view, including Green's, when taken against the facts. Their decision is not about standards, its about personal points of view- theirs vs others. The complainant really doesn't figure much in this "decision" They must've subbed this out to Barbara Hall.

That last assumes that trends continue indefinitely and that others will never, never get their backs up. At some point, they must.


The Israel Lobby has so much power in Canada, it is not likely that Canada will ever have a balanced policy again.

This is exacerbated by the confounding and inexplicable tendency of ‘progressives’ to ignore the power of The Lobby.

They criticize Isr-el, but ignore the role of Jewish owned media and pressure organizations in shaping Canada’s policy towards Isr-el. The Israel Lobby in Canada got Lesley Hughes thrown off the ballot for stating some facts about Israel’s foreknowledge of 9/11–facts that were corroborated by an Isr-eli paper.

Powerful lobby groups like the CJC and Bnai B’rith successfully lobbied for War on Terror legislation that has severely curtailed Canadian’s rights, resulting in innocent Muslims being locked up without charges for years before their trials, and got Zundel detained in Canada under an unconstitutional security certificate. They have successfully lobbied for laws that persecute Canadians who exercise their right to free speech.

Now Canadian leaders read speeches that sound like they were crafted in Tel Aviv, and Canada is shamefully the only country on 47 on the UN Human Rights Panel that voted not to condemn Isr-el’s Gaza slaughter.

Understanding Mearscheimer and Walt’s paper on The Israel Lobby is key to decoding politics today. This is a MUST read.

http://www.lrb.co.uk/v28/n06/mear01_.html

As usual, the best way to defeat Islam is to fully expose it. The problem is most people have no idea of the commands in the Quran to violence against unbelievers and Mohammad's actions and sayings as revealed in the Hadeeth and Sira.

Green would have done much better had he been more knowledgeable and quoted directly from the Islamic triology. It is irrefutable proof of the foundational violence of Islam.

Most people, including the censors at CBSC and even most Muslims do not know of the unbelievable blood-thirstiness and depravity of their own prophet. For example, one of the callers identifying herself as a Muslimah, said:

Taz: "Well, the Prophet himself, when he used to, uh, he used to be insulted in his time, he didn’t used to do anything. He didn’t use force, he, he, the companions did want to –"

Really? Well here's what the Hadeeth says:

Abu Afak, an elderly poet of 120 years of age, wrote poetic verses condemning the cruelty of Muhammad. Muhammad ordered the poet’s execution. One of Muhammad disciple slyly entered Afak’s house at night and dispatched him in his sleep [Ibn Ishaq, Oxford, Karachi, p675].

In condemnation of the elderly poet’s death, Asma bte Marwan, a poetess and mother of five, wrote verses denouncing Muhammad’s heinous act. Muhammad ordered her execution, too. His blind disciple named Umayr, belonging to Asma’s tribe, entered her house one night, removed her suckling baby from her bosom and plunged his sword into her breast with such force that it got stuck onto the couch. Prophet thanked Umayr for the job well-done [Ibn Ishaq, p675-6]: “You have helped God and His apostle, O 'Umayr.” The blind assassin for his great service received the honorific, ‘Umayr the Seeing.’

Another famous poet to fall pray to Muhammad’s sword was Ka’b ibn Ashraf, a Jew. Hearing about Muhammad’s victory at Badr, he traveled there. Witnessing the ghastly bloodbath, he traveled down to Mecca, and wrote a poem, lamenting over the dead Quraysh and inveighing Muhammad’s unjustified barbarity.

Once reached Muhammad’s ear, he said [Ibn Ishaq, p367]: “Who would rid me of [Ka’b] Ibnu'l-Ashraf?” Muhammad’s disciples, including Abu Naila and a foster brother of Ka’b, volunteered for the job. The assassins, with permission from Muhammad, befriended Ka’b by saying bad things about the Prophet. Then on one moonlit night, Abu Naila went to Ka’b house calling him to come out to devise some plan to counter Muhammad. Ka’b’s newly married wife warned him: “By God, I can feel evil in his voice.” Ka'b answered to his wife: “Even if the call were for a stab, a brave man must answer it.” Then he went out with Abu Naila, who enticed him to go walking around while talking about their plan. A pleasant little proposal on a moonlit night as it was, Ka’b came along. Once gotten at the right place, Abu Naila and his four accomplices fell upon the naïve poet with their swords and dagger and butchered him. Al-Tabari records, they brought Ka’b’s head to Muhammad and the Prophet duly thanked them for their service to Allah.

When Muhammad captured Mecca in 630 CE and destroyed the idol Gods of Ka’ba, he ordered execution of 10-12 men who had criticized, apostatized from, or overtly opposed his creed. Among them, were two singing girls, who had composed songs ridiculing Muhammad’s messages more than a decade earlier during Muhammad’s preaching in Mecca.

That proves, from their own religious and accepted texts, that Mohammad was a mass murderer.

Another caller, identifying himself as Muslim, questioned Green, saying "there are 72 different sects..."

That may be true. However, central to all Islamic sects is exactly the same Quran, Hadith and Sira. All Muslims are required to emulate Mohammad.

That should be extremely alarming for anybody who has taken the time to read about him, from Islam's own texts.

anachore, a trip to your blog and I need a shower. I did have one good laugh though, one of your featured articles, the "Jews Did 9/11", had this hilarious disclaimer: "Due to concerns for his personal safety, the author has chosen to remain anonymous."

Come on, at the very worst the author might get pelted by a bagel in a NYC deli or be snubbed on a campus. I've searched high and low to find one neo-Nazi or Holocaust denier physically harmed by a Jewish person.

Ignoring a low life like you makes better sense, but, every once in awhile, and since you tunneled out of the mud to reach this site, I'll indulge my lack of better sense right now and just say to you that you're a low life hate mongering idiot.

Green got this info from this website:

http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/

Green keeps repeating,"is it a few fanatics, or is it the Faith"?

I suggest it is not a "few fanatics" but lots and lots of fanatics, millions of them!

As to whether it IS "the Faith", I can only hypothesize it is the interpretation of the Book by certain Islamic sects, and the power mongers who lead those sects.

It seems the most active fanatics are members of the Shiite, Sunni, Druze, or Wahabbi sects.

The largest Islamic sect, kind of the "Catholics" of the Islamic faith, are the Ismailis, who apparently comprise about 70% of Islam.

I don't know if Ismailis have ever behaved in the manner of the other four sects, and can only speak of my experiences with that sect, some of whom I became acquainted with when I lived in Surrey, B.C., about fifteen years ago.

Most of my Ismaili acquaintances came to Canada from Uganda, and were extremely happy to have come to a Country where they could live without fear. The persons I met were well educated, hard working, honest, taxpaying new Canadians, who dressed in the same manner as any other Canadian, no burkhas or hijabs, except for a very few elderly ladies, who wore a sari-like garment, with their head clearly visible.

We discussed their religion, and the Christian religion, often, and none ever offered any criticism of Christianity. Their main point was that "it's the same God we worship, we only approach him through a different prophet".

This "community" is the often asked for "moderate Islamic community", that so many posters here enquire about, as in,"where's the moderate Muslim community on this" act,or statement,by some radical nutcase.

From my own experience, the moderate Islamics are the same place as the rest of us, quietly earning a living, breaking no laws, being good citizens, and NOT in any way responsible for the actions of lunatic fanatics who happen to share the same "bible".

The moderate Muslims I knew were no more responsible for the Osama Bin Ladens of the Islamic world, than the Catholic church is responsible for the actions of Timothy Mcveigh.

Are radical Muslims a danger to world peace, and all infidels?

Absolutely, eliminate the bastards whenever we get a chance, no mercy, no prisoners, no Guantanamos, no Omar Khadrs.

If radical Islam raises its ugly head in Canada, arrest, jail, and deport them, first stripping them of citizenship if they've gotten it.

Radical Islam is as dangerous as any menace we've ever faced, and I do NOT underestimate them for one bloody second! They are NOT a "few fanatics", they are millions.

And they are NOT the moderate Ismaili Muslim community who have lived peacefully in Canada for over fifty years, and contributed positively to this Country.

And in this case, it looks like the CBSC should go the same way as the HRC's, extinction preferred.

Irwin:

There is one priest who has used the protection afforded by the internet to pose those questions to the Muslim world.

He has a $60 million bounty on his head, as opposed to $25 million for Osama bin Laden.

http://www.islam-christianity.net/

set you free,

Yes, Zakaria Botros is doing a wonderful job exposing Islam through their own texts. I think his last radio show was about Mohammad's homosexual tendencies and that he was a necrophiliac, as proven in their own texts.

The more people become educated on Islam, including Muslims, directly from their texts, I believe the less of a threat it will be.

Intelligent and moral Muslims will leave it and in the west -necessary laws, foreign and immigration policy will, out of necessity, be put in place to defend against it.

An interesting article by a former Muslim scholar on defeating Islam:

http://www.familysecuritymatters.org/publications/id.2287/pub_detail.asp

Tard spill in aisle 8, tard spill in aisle 8, anarcore 12:11.

Comedian/actor Dennis Miller said once, something along the lines of....

"...you have the right to hold any believe you choose, but I also have the right to riducule your beliefs mercilessly".

Of course Canada doesn't subscribe to the right of freedom of speech, only the rights of 'victims groups' that we don't want to offend, so Miller's quote, if recited here in Canada, would be viewed as hate speech.

Miller is appearing in Edmonton later this spring. Perhaps I'll take in his show.

On a related note, it's funny that now that there's a Democrat in the White House, it's been a while since I've heard the term 'American style' up here in the frozen north! (I don't think the carpet bagger, Iggy would dare utter that phrase!)

Of course Penny;

You ignore the Israel Lobby's control and apparently you have a Nazi fetish.

Are you one of those 'rubber and lace' gals, or do you just worship power?

anarchore:

Please show some maturity.

The case of Canadian Broadcast Standards Council vs Lowell Green is part/parcel of the left-socialists' war on free speech.
An exemplar of those who would criminalize free thought and free speech is "anarchore".
Do the leftwing guardians of Orwellian political correctness feel/think that they will be exempt from the sword of Islam?
These useful idiots will be among the first to kneel to the sword of Islam.
The whip/bludgeon of political correctness is exposed here:

"Europe’s War on Free Speech"

"Europe’s war on free speech is the result of a profound identity crisis, one that is being generated by the blanket abandonment of traditional Judeo-Christian values coupled with mass immigration from Muslim countries. But in their zeal to criminalize free thought and free speech, the leftwing guardians of Orwellian political correctness are systematically destroying European democracy."
http://www.brusselsjournal.com/node/3788

Can anyone here,besides penny,SYF,and maz2,see the exact same thing between this post,and the UofC one above???
Kate....you missed a perfect chance for a juxtapose!!

An exemplar of those who would criminalize free thought and free speech is "anarchore".

Huh??? Oh I get it, I'm one of the 'leftist socialists', while the Zio-lite 'progressives' call me a Neo-Nazi!

You just can't get your head around the fact that your entire worldview has been created by an alien group, with a well documented history of lying, from the Holocaust, to Gaza.

"Huh??? Oh I get it, I'm one of the 'leftist socialists', while the Zio-lite 'progressives' call me a Neo-Nazi!

You just can't get your head around the fact that your entire worldview has been created by an alien group, with a well documented history of lying, from the Holocaust, to Gaza.


Posted by: anarchore at February 7, 2009 2:32 PM "

Ummmmmmmm....try Rwanada,and see how your worldview works out.Oh....and it ZION-lite.If you are going to throw infantile insults,at least haul your thumb out of your a$$,and get it right.

I don't have a reference for this, but it's been said by Muslims (Tarek Fatah, I think) that within their faith, they have estimated that as much as 90% of the world's Muslims have never read the Koran (much can be said about the world's Christians too I suppose). If that is true, than many Muslims can argue against the apparent nature of radical Islam out of ignorance, with honest belief. Equally, this is a valid observation for western secularists - most, I suspect (including the HRCs), have not read the Koran either. Perhaps the dialogue for either side, but most particularly the strident Muslims, can start with the question: "have you actually read the Koran?".

So has anybody here,besides anchochovie-whatever been to it's site.Link whore is what these "people " are called.Another leftie,trying to live of a righties site and bandwidth.Now why dosen't that surprise me???(and you bet,I am a proud rightie)

Wherever I stand, I stand with Israel.

Sent to the CBSC. Please join me in doing so.

Dear Dhimmis;

I am writing in defence of radio broadcaster Lowell Green.

It is apparent that like the Canadian Human Rights Commission and the provincial counterparts, the Canadian Broadcast Standards Council accepts that truth is no defence.

While I may concede that only a small portion of Muslims adhere to the tenets of what I call 'political Islam', the generally accepted figure is 10%. By extrapolation, that means that some 120 million Muslims throughout the world agreed that all others should submit to the will of Islam.

If truth is no defence, then denial is no excuse but rather, willful ignorance. Eventually, your political correctness may either subjugate or kill you and frankly speaking, I'm not up for either of those choices. The thousands of 'incidences' of bombings, kidnapping and murder of both Muslims and non-Muslims that take place annually and in virtually every geographic region throughout the world cannot be ignored and Mr. Green was both ethical and accurate in his broadcast.

The following website will give you the particulars of such attacks with dates, places and deaths attributed. Scroll down and examine those for 2008 alone. Add up the lives of innocents and ruminate on their deaths. Then, if you have the stomach, go to the previous year and the year before that.

And then again deny what is undeniable.

http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/index.html#Attacks

Canada: where evidence does not apply, truth is no defence and we are all so very, very nice.

M. Ziniak (Vice-Chair), M. Hamilton, H. Hassan, L. Levinson, G. Phelan (ad hoc), J. Pungente
are listed as menbers of the CBCS.

I wonder which one of the 6 pushed the hardest for the censure. Hmmmm.

M. Ziniak (Vice-Chair), M. Hamilton, H. Hassan, L. Levinson, G. Phelan (ad hoc), J. Pungente
are listed as members of the CBCS.

I wonder which one of the 6 pushed the hardest for the censure. Hmmmm.

anachore, GF(greg BIG Failure or saint elmo the med-evil troll) or whatever putz you claim to be. Truth hurts eh?
Here you go slandering Mr Green, for telling the factual truth, and then you pick on the Jews again using false data from those hacks W&M.Hum, who paid those morons to write that garbage? The saudis? Who pays you to whore for them? Truth be told, we in Canada should be wary of the islamic fifth colum that you are probably subscribe to.They are the real traitors and usurpers of our country.Prove me wrong.

Why don't you infect some radical islamic website with your garbage, I'm sure you will find many friends among that death cult of perversion.

Your handelers will get more bang for the buck.

So, mohammed was a child molester, a mass murderer, gay, thief and it's all there in the quran...queeran, or whatever that book is called, and the muslims STILL think this "guy" was a saint?

But, then again, muslims are violent by nature, I guess. I mean, rioting is what they live by.

AND, these idiots wonder why CIVILIZED folks can't stand them....

Soon, hopefully, somewhere, someone in government will realize just how dangerous these loons are and put a stop to all those stupid rights complaints.

By the way, why are muslims given rights, anyway...They trample over everybody elses....

I don't know why the OIC has gone to so much trouble to get the UN to make criticism of Islam a crime when so many are ready and willing to do it anyway.

No Guff - good letter.

dmorris: It would appear, from this and other links I've checked, that there are about 15 million Ismailis worldwide:

http://chiesa.espresso.repubblica.it/articolo/6990?&eng=y

This is a long way from your '70% estimate', and perhaps, because Ismailis are an offshoot of Shias, your figure included all Shia?

Ismailis are those connected to the Aga Khan, and I will concede that they are, by far, the most agreeable.

Dmoris
“moderate Islamic community”, this term comes from the limp wristed liberal media.
It's nothing more then a distortion of facts, or an outright lie. Islam has nothing in common with the
west or Christianity. Islam is based on the teachings of Mohammad, it also commands its followers to be like him; much in the way Christians are to strive to be like Christ, but the similarity's end there.
Mohammad was a soldier that waged wars, kept slaves, tortured people in the most inhuman way, murdered anyone who opposed him, was a pedophile, this is why he promoted mounting young boys and had a 9 year old wife that he abused from age 6. This explains his obsessions, threw-out the Quran with virgins. As non believer you are to pay taxes to the believers this brings us to lie number 2.Mohammad was out to wipe Christianity from the face of the earth, they never got along with the Christians remember the crusades hmmm. Unlike the liberal media this was a defensive war. It got so bad that there were only two small pockets of Christians left and one was on the verge of collapse had the pope not reacted you would be a following Islam today, whether you want to or not.

Why don't you infect some radical islamic website with your garbage...

cliff was from montreal, our trolling hate spewing anachore would have his head sawed off in front of a camera if his hate mongering site was directed towards Muslims. Sociopathic creeps are selective in whom and where they terrorize.

My first reaction to his site was that it looked paid, but, hey, he might be a pathetic little non-Muslim sociopathic angry boy whose developmental years were pathological. Either way he is damn lucky that he can say what he wants and be protected in western democracies. I'm proud of that. Until they day comes that he ever physically harms a Jewish fellow citizen or incites others to do it for him he can rear his ugly face and be mocked by us.

Peter, my post is about my Personal experiences with Muslims, and has NOTHING whatsoever to do with the MSM.

The community in Surrey was, and probably still IS, moderate, by any standard. Most of the people I met were from African Countries, not Middle Eastern.

The difference is in the interpretation of the Koran by the sect's Leader. The Ismaili's spiritual leader is the Aga Khan.

Go to Surrey, British Columbia, and visit the Ismaili Mosque at 72nd Ave, and 128th St., and talk to some of the moderate Islamic community there.Form your own impression.

I lived about six blocks away, for eight years, and got acquainted with several members of that moderate community, did business with them, was a client of some professionals in that community.

I'm as left wing as Gen.George Patton, and as socialist as Margaret Thatcher. And I recognize a moderate religious community when I live amongst them, and discuss religion with them.

Did a post on this, too.

http://thecanadiansentinel.blogspot.com/2009/02/broadcaster-with-balls-lowell-green.html

Worth a look, plus in the comments I received an interesting visit from a rep of the Muslim Brotherhood...

DMorris You are not the first source I have heard to specifically point to the Ismailis as an authentic moderate Muslim Group. I'd love to hear more on the subject.

I'd also love to hear what Robert Spencer, or some other unsympathetic expert, has to say on the matter.

One thing struck me in reading the CBSC 'verdict'.

Upon receiving the first complaint - and I'd be very interested knowing from whence it came - the CBSC defended Green's rignt to fair comment.

The complainant however, was not satisfied and re-iterated the complaint. At this point, the CBSC apparently grew fearful. Whether this fear was due to being painted as 'rascist' or due to fears of escalation one cannot know.

But the fact is that they reversed their position in order to appease the complainant.

Where pray tell, have we seen result this before?

I encourage anyone to send him a letter. Its about time we all fought back before there is nothing left.

Double standard, anyone?

The CBSC is a left-wing propaganda machine. It supports Muslims and other, favoured groups. It discriminates against those causes it doesn't happen to like.

E.,g., Life Canada, a pro-life group, recently had the following ad banned by the CBSC:

Along with a photograph of a very pregnant woman's belly (fully clothed), here's what the ad said:

"9 months.

"The length of time an abortion is allowed in Canada.

"abortion.

"Have we gone too far?"

It's not just graphic, unpleasant pictures the Establishment doesn't want: it's the TRUTH.

Lowell Green is an honourable man and he's being pilloried by the usual, state paid for and sanctioned, fascist suspects.

Oh oh Canada.

I/3 of the women in Kyrgyzstan are forced into marriages. It's not exclusively a muslim thing, but they are the majority.
It's called bride kidnapping, and there are a few reports out there about it.
Many of those whitewash the more brutal aspects of it, such as if the woman has been raped her family won't want her back again regardless of if she tries to refuse.
One third isn't a small minority, it's a significant portion.

What does the CBSC think about female genital mutilation?
Can we discuss that without being branded racists?

anon in bc,I have no idea if all the Ismailis in the world are moderates.

I ONLY related my experience with one small community in one area of B.C., in answer to the often asked question, here, and at other conservative blogs,"where is the moderate Muslim community", and I mentioned where I found one example.

There are 1.2 billion Muslims in the world. I'd bet money there are some more moderate communities, like the one I lived beside,in the late 80's, early 90's.

There are, unfortunately, too many of the extreme fanatics to hog the world stage with their insanity, for the others to ever be heard, or paid attention to.

http://www.straight.com/node/172251

According to this article, the Ismaili sect only comprises 15 million of the world's Muslims, while I read elsewhere they comprised the majority of Muslims, so,I don't know which is correct.

Whatever, the community I met and lived with, never demonstrated the hatred of us that the radicals do.

"Unreliable statistics have resulted in there being only an estimate as to the number of Ismai'lis in the world. Estimates range from 15-30 million.[2] It is accepted that Ismai'lis constitute the second-largest Shi'a Muslim population. Within the Ismai'li sub-sect, the largest branch is Nizari at around 10 million. With its three branches added together, the Mustaali are the second largest at under 2 million, followed by the Druze at around 1 million."

That's from Wikipedia, for what it's worth. Seems the Ismailis, and the Nizaris, comprise a small sector of the Islamic world.

Too bad there aren't more of THEM, and LESS of the others.

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