We Don't Need No Stinkin' Giant Fans

Obama has to stay in power long enough for the worshippers up here to understand that Democrats in the Whitehouse are bad for Canada. Always have been, always will be.

So don't take our "dirty" oil.There are tons of other countries who will happily snap it up.Besides,isn't it time we started building our on reserves?

Opppssss....our "own" reserves

OT, but definitely SDA specific - a yummy recipe to check out.

http://www.mcclatchydc.com/251/story/59566.html

McMillan #1 eh?

Saskatchewan, a chicken in every pot, and an oil pumpjack in every back fourty!

Gotta like it!!

The Saskatchewan oil boom ended on Jan 1, 2009. Thank your lucky stars that your economy isn't completely tied to the oil and gas industry.

The industry will rebound within a year or so, but it would serve Saskatchewan well to curb your enthusiasm a bit. You don't want to end up like Alberta, with almost 100,000 useless, mostly muslim, immigrants sucking the life out of your old fashioned, western society.

Well, there's always that vast, untapped source of greasy oil that has yet to be exploited, AND it's sometimes in Saskatchewan. Ralph Goodale's greasy head. Better tap it before it explodes in frustration.

Adherence to AGW will put the American economy in worse straits than it is at present. Obama had better abandon it or he'll wear it worse than Bush ever did.

Soccermom.
"Ralph Goodale's greasy head."
Not to mention he's a huge gas bag.
I'm surprized he isn't floating.

There is plenty of coal in the ground in the USA that can easily be converted to liquid fuels at prices of $40 a barrel equivalent or less. Hydrocarbons are interchangeable, it's called refining. If it can be done in Indonesia, it can surly be done in Colorado.

Not only that, but coal-to-liquids refining produces a purer final product with less unnecessary and polluting byproducts contained in the liquid fuel.

The media enables the lies, until the media dies, America will not be safe. Little did the founders know that corporate media would turn so politically one sided and block out and control all forms of free speech.

What the last election proved is it is real easy to make idiot voters out of ignorant people, if you promise them enough free stuff. This was the one big thing the founders of America feared, a populist demagogue who would do just that -- Allow a majority to vote themselves anything wanted from the federal treasury.

We have arrived at that point.

The stuff of carbon lifeforms very life, CO2, proves that carbon interchanges very simply. Plants use photosynthesis, animals use cellular respiration to exchange carbon back and forth. Only the ignorant do not understand that CO2 is not a pollutant. Well, the ignorant and the US Supreme Court. You are on your own to figure that out.

This is meaningless puffery by the Obamanistas that has is being amplified by "people-against-oil" types in Canada and their media supporters.

1. It will be quite difficult for the Americans to replace oil imports should Obama ban or tax imports of Canadian synthetic crude. In either case it will mean a big jump at the pump for American consumers.

2. It will be quite easy for Canada to find alternate buyers for our oil. To wit:

http://www.northerngateway.ca/

3. Obama is aware of the foregoing. This is another NAFTAgate dynamic at work.

Cheers,

Oil isnt going away, even as we shift to additional energy sources. Natural Gas will be here a long long time.

1) Grid cant handle significant extra load

2) Nobody is producing the electricity for the potential demand that that the grid cannot carry

Better for everyone if there is a decent lead in time for shifts and changes. Nothing worse than sudden draws on severly limited resources.

At the end of the day AGW ultimately wont be the cause of the shift, it will be price and uncertain supply from evrywhere else. The Mexicans could fall apart, the venezualans are crazy, at least untl Chavez disappears, many of the other SA guys arnt terribky frinedly either.

The rest of the world is full of people wit more oil than brains or sanity. So this is what will cause the shift.

We werent running out of coal when the shift from coal happened, just different applciations requiring different energy sources were needed.

Glad Sask and the Dakota's have lots of oil. If it calms everyone down just a bit then maybe we can get back to some sense of normalcy.

"Worldwatch Institute" gets the nod for "idiotic statement of the day":

world carbon emissions will have to drop to near zero by 2050 and "go negative" after that, the Worldwatch Institute reported on Tuesday

Here's a thought: demand that The Messiah stop the MSM practice of murdering Nature's Lungs. Cancel a NYT subscription, save the planet. Join PETT, People for the Ethical Treatment of Trees.

http://www.alertnet.org/thenews/newsdesk/N13404353.htm

This climate change garbage becomes more ridiculous daily. Thank goodness we have the professional journalists out there hard at work digging up the truth and presenting it to us without bias.

A few points/comments that surround the issue of Oil and Gas:

The Stelmach-led Alberta government:

- ripped up production contracts,

- dramatically raised royalty rates And then pulled back on them sending the message to the industry that rates will vary based on what the price is IOW you have now certainty on royalty costs going forward

-let the EUB run amok becoming an ever-increasing pain in the butt to explorers and producers as they continue their departmental make-work project

-and moved its budget baseline price up to $65 per BBL.

The industry cautioned them that all of those measures were a mistake - that things could change...

Since then:

1. The US increased its annual production rate of natural gas to an amount equal to alberta's output. This is something that the government was told could happen in the price environment at the time and they said it couldn't happen. Less than sixty days ago the minister now says it was a "surprise" that it happened - that no one anticipated it.

BS.

All they had to do was look at the activity in the US and they would have known.

2. Sask and BC had far higher lease sales than AB did this past go-round. Over the next 24 months Alberta will be the least active of the three most western provinces. Only 30% of rigs are operating right now and many of them will be moving east or west of here very soon.

3.The next provincial budget will see AB in a very big deficit position. Rather than keep the baseline lower and using a weighted moving average to set that number whilst creating a budgetary balancing pool (which they were told to do for years now) we have the spector of future spending and hiring committments based on a price that is almost double the actual number.

4. Because of the breaking of contracts, Alberta is now held at a level of trust not much better than the province of NL under the socialist Danny Williams.

My recommendations to those who live in SASK: Don't let your leaders do what we let ours do.

I will predict here and now that Stelmach will be removed as leader within the next 18 to 24 months.

dp - Could you provide some data evidence for your statement that Alberta has 100,000 'mostly Muslim' immigrants; and that they are 'useless' and 'sucking the life out'? Without evidence, your statement is simply a bigoted remark and as useless as your assertion about immigrants.

By the way, there's less than 50,000 Muslims in Alberta; the dominant source country for immigrants is China, followed by India. Don't let the facts bother you.

Now, with regard to Obama, the key priority of Obama, in my view, is his electional power. His decisions are based, always, on how they will be perceived by the electorate. That's the first priority. Even now, he is preparing for 2012.

FEWER.

Not less.

Sorry, just my number one grammar beef. ;)

Before Obama tries to spring this stupidity, he will have to deal with Texas. Like Alberta there not known for taking crap. Last count there where 35,000 Texans residing in Alberta. Living off oil production & also injecting money into oil sands development as well pipelines to ND with other states to set up refineries for the raw Alberta product. What are these other States going to say when the big O tells them all the jobs coming there way are canceled because of his GW delusion? . Some the most influential & rich people on the planet have investments in this sector. Obama may be POTUS, but he ain’t God. Nor dictator. Yet!
Americans for the most part like here, are not stupid either.
What next, him banning private vehicles?

sorry:

in my fit emotion I made a typo:

"IOW you have now certainty on royalty costs going forward"

should read:

IOW you have no certainty on royalty costs going forward

You know who Obama reminds me of? Jean Chretien.

Both play up the emotional 'small town boy' card. Chretien with his 'just a street kid from Shawinigan' when he is anything but that, with his enormous wealth, ties to the Desmarais cabal and PowerCorp etc. Obama? His 'race'; his grandmother who raised him, etc, ignoring his ties to the Chicago political and economic cabal.

Both focus on defining themselves as 'for the people'. Both focus on image rather than content, and both focus on the power of Being in Office rather than the Power of doing good.

Personally, I'll miss the decent goodness and wise decisions of George Bush - who did things, not because they had a photo-op appeal but because they were the right thing to do. Can you imagine, ever, Obama taking out a dictator and enabling the people to develop democracy?

Obama's statements may last for five minutes because the agenda of those statements is electoral appeal to a certain segment of the population. The statements will change as the lisstener changes.

>ET; the dominant source country for immigrants is China, followed by India

In case you were not aware, there are quite a few muslims in India.

PrestO may want to appear to move to energy self sufficiency. That is not a bad goal to have. The problem lies in the fact he has to deal with people like Reid. If the US doesn't want our oil we will find another buyer. His problem will be we are OBLIGED to sell to the US. If he breaks that and then the tail falls off the donkey he is going to be in a world of real hurt. Unfortunate that he could take a lot of good people with him.

"Personally, I'll miss the decent goodness and wise decisions of George Bush - who did things, not because they had a photo-op appeal but because they were the right thing to do. Can you imagine, ever, Obama taking out a dictator and enabling the people to develop democracy?"

ditto

OT

What has been bothering me of late is all the talk from the BIG 3 about electric cars. Did I miss something? Do fossil fuels not work anymore?

No need to answer that. My point is: Will electric cars solve anything? I'm under the impression that electricity is at a premium today; without electric cars! How are we going to create all of this electricity we will need? Coal?

None of this makes sense to me. I envision the price of electricity going through the roof. If Obama is going to "bankrupt" coal plants, how are we going to stay warm? Nuclear? Is this what the envirotards want?

I suspect I am over simplifying this and I have nothing to worry about. The BIG 3 know what they're doing right?

Comments anyone?

ET

""""Obama taking out a dictator """""

he would simple talk them to death:-))))

OTH; humans are basically emotional reactionaries rather than logical thinkers, liberals being far more so than conservatives

Obama's rhetoric since day one has been nothing more than low-cal pabulum designed to lull his far left voting base into a comfortable sense of security. If he actually meant anything that he has said about energy - anything at all - then he is nothing more than a fool.

The United States, as a direct result of ludicrous hyper-regulation post-3 Mile Island (a "disaster" in which not one human being died), has failed to keep pace with its escalating demand for electricity. It has responded via the only remaining available routes: gas-fired generating stations (which use one of the more expensive hydrocarbon fuels, and one of which the US has a very limited supply), and coal-fired generating stations. The US currently generates more than 55% of its electricity from coal. Anything Obama does that adversely impacts coal-fired generation will black out the US faster than he can say "sequestration". For the US, targeting the coal industry is the energy equivalent of shooting yourself smack-dab in the left ventricle.

Enviro-masochism is a luxury available only to the wealthy. Tell people that "carbon regulation" will cost them a few pennies here and there and maybe they'll support it; but tell them the truth - that it will cost them a portion of their income in the tens of percentage points, and will lead to, amongst other things, nationwide rolling blackouts - and they'll change their tune.

Of course, Obama already knew that. That's why he's the one who's changing his tune first, even before taking office, on everything from NAFTA to GITMO.

Not a Light-Worker, I guess - just another triangulating hack politician. CHANGing all of his promises, and HOPing nobody will notice.

Who they (leftards) gonna vote for, S.Palin?

That's the beauty of the American System, the loons on both sides really don't have any power. Obama's desire to maintain office will keep him in line(I hope).

BTW Kudos to PMSH for coming out firing at the USA during the primaries. PMSH has big balls(no homo; "not that there is anything wrong with that")

You don't need no stinkin' giant fans, but you do need refinery capacity. How much have you got? We in NL are sort of one up on you - but Come by Chance refinery doesn't sell to us.

Mind, you can use crude as a fuel.

While thinking about the Americans, I am reminded about a drive I took with several others from Houston to the Gulf. For several miles all one can see from horizon to horizon are oil refineries. One of the party was and is very knowledgeable about energy issues. He commented that at each moment we were looking at more refinery capacity than existed in the whole of Canada.

I wonder what will happened if the oil stands and tar stands and oil in canada was to shut down; seems to me Obama al gore the die hard environments in canada must have something going right now paid by them to use the minute they shut down the oil sands. Right.

I wonder how these so call die hard environmentalists like Gore MAY SUZUKI LAYTON DUCEPPE LIBERALS are fearing now with the cold weather. ARE THEY LIVING OF THE LAND HUNTING FOR BUFFALO FOR FOOD AND CLOTHING ; HOW ARE THEY KEEPING WARM. Or, are they USING THE FURNACE, HEATING OIL, CARS ETC.
Where are the photos of the environments showing that they are not using anything that relates to the oil sands. e.g. heating oil, clothes, foods, housing, television, computers papers.cars bikes,etc....

I agree with Obama. We should all embark on a "great leap forward" past oil. Mao was the first user of the "righteous wind" phrase which Obama quoted. Why not now the "Great Leap Forward"?

We all, well maybe not Obama, know how that came out for the Chinese that Obama so admires -- mass starvation.

I've been in Alberta since 1982, due to a transfer and have been involved in various segments of the Oil industry since then. Pretty much every person I know, including myself, has either quit drilling here or divested of properties, pulled up stakes and headed east to Sask. I have had it with Red Ed and the rest of his crones that don't have a clue. Back to the 'Tooner perhaps. Bakkens calling.
(No I won't go back with a sackful of money, RevCan already took care of that)

After reading the thing about Obama's statements having an expiry date I was going to look up pragmatic in the dictionary. Then it struck me. I didn't need to it obviously ment liar.

Consider that Obama is first an foremost a narcissistic, ego maniacal dictator in waiting.

If he trashes his deal with Canada, he go kiss AquaVelvaJad's ass for some cleaner oil. He can trade off Israel for that deal.

Obama is an empty suit and he does not have the brains to carry off all the crap he talks about.

It will become clear later this year that this mulatto asshole is in way over his head. The whole world will pay for his presidency.

He and his crew of half wit socialists will destroy the American and Canadian economies before he is done.

Remember the three G's buy gold, guns and grub. Maybe a crank radio would be helpful too.

If the fans pay themselves off, why not throw them up (particularly if they'll placate the environmentalists)? Why not build a nuclear plant as well? Why not keep on drilling while exploring other forms of energy? There are plenty of ways to extract profit from this land - let's explore them all.

Fans don't pay for themselves, Bill. Those blades are powered by tax subsidies, not the wind.

Jim in Calgary. I own mineral rights in the Bakken. Want to drill on my land?

Horny Toad

Wind farms are profitable under the right conditions, Sarah. I am completely ignorant as to where wind farms would be built in Saskatchewan, so perhaps you're correct in saying they're only viable when subsidized. However, until I'm made aware that they aren't viable, I'm not going to rail against them on principle alone.

Obama is highly intelligent as he informed his own countrymen that he plans to visit 57 states-where those extra 7states are is new. Shame on you USA how can you say that you have 51 states when the BIG O HIGH AND MIGHTY SAID 57 STATES.
CANADIANS! ACCORDING TO THE BIG OBAMA, CANADA HAS A PRESIDENT. like I said, Obama is highly intelligent and you ain't.
Let me go to CNN blog site and ask Wolf about the newly founded american states instituted by OBAMA

"We decided not to deal with Sarah Palin. It was Obama and McCain."
( Plouffe said )

Why deal with it when the pro-Obama main stream media volunteered to and did try to destroy Sarah palin?

Liberals say funny things...

Now, with regard to Obama, the key priority of Obama, in my view, is his electional power. Posted by: ET at January 14, 2009 3:55 PM

If you talking about his power to engineer an election then don’t you mean his lectrical power, as in lectrical engineer?

Horny Toad:
Thanks
You can never tell. I just might be. I spent some time in the Plentywood, Mt area and at present, it is a pretty good place to do some business. I am going to wait and see what the "One" does before making any hurried decisions.
The problem with the Bakken is the gravity of the oil gets heavier the further north you go, so it's always location, location, location.
I can always locate you through here, the Best Conservative Blog!
Jim

Tarpon:

"There is plenty of coal in the ground in the USA that can easily be converted to liquid fuels at prices of $40 a barrel equivalent or less."

Please provide evidence that this is possible. I have lots of associates who would like to know about it.

Jack @5:53 PM - You have just said almost exactly what I have been thinking ever since the msm stated drooling with their legs tingling over a guy that I saw very short on the 'extraordinary'. Every time the msm falls for anyone or anything I instinctively bolt away from the object of their adoration because I know that it is foul and will cost me and my fellow countrymen (who pay taxes) money and liberty.

My reactions are based on personal experience.

Obamarama can continue to pay countries that don't like America very much for the oil they buy or they can try to obtain more of it from Canada who at least likes them a little more than the Arabs do but won't try to blow up their buildings. Barry was just playing to the voters with his jabber. He is now appearing to be much more of a pragmatist. Hell his Democratic controlled Congress is already sticking it to him and he hasn't even been inaugurated yet!

American politics is nothing if not a great spectator sport.

Horny Toad,
Mineral rights in the Bakken.
Shoot me some details if your serious.
cheers
pacemakerdoug@shaw.ca

Not about oil, but certainly about Obama. I get the feeling Bin Laden believes the Big O is a wimp too.He has challenged him already.

http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/story?id=6643641&page=1

Lots of negative press coverage when Pres Bush called PMSH -Steve
What will the reaction be when O says, President Harper.

Lloyd and Jane will get that 'tingling up their legs' feeling, Mary.
Ollie and Fife wouldn't notice.

FEWER.
Not less.
Sorry, just my number one grammar beef. ;)~Kate

My number one grammar beef is that she drank too much; but then I have a paucity of beefs against my grammar.

ET- I'm not sure if you're an immigrant, or a muslim, but I'll bet a weeks pay that you're useless.

There are 30,000 muslims in Edmonton alone. And yes, there are plenty of muslims in India. My sons have a Hindu friend, who is openly afraid of muslim domination. It's one of the reasons his family moved here. There are hundreds of African muslims in Brooks, population 10,000, on temporary worker visas. They have to hire twice as many Africans to get productivity in the US owned meat packing plant. The crime rate in Brooks is up about 500%, and Sudanese gangs are starting to establish territory in Calgary.

I don't care to debate with a socially ignorant tool any more, so have a glass of whatever, and stick with your lesbian friends.

dp:

There are plenty of Canadian workers who could move west in search of jobs.

The Beg Three are promising to mothball or shut down plants in several Ontario cities, where the unemployment rate is near 10%.

BTW, I bought my last car from a Bosnian Muslim salesman and quite often go to a grocery store run by Lebanese Muslims.

Both experiences were quite pleasant.

On the other hand, Edmonton does have increasing gang problems with Somalis. Not sure what philosophy drives them. Tribal, I believe.

I remember going past the Al Rashid Mosque on 111th Avenue in Edmonton on my way to music lessons. That was quite a while ago and near as I can remember, many solid citizens who contributed to Edmonton came from that community.

Apparently, none had been poisoned by the Wahabbi sect.

Worked for a Muslim company for 3 years in calgary.
Never again, nuff said