When A Tree Falls In Vancouver

Same leftie idiots in our province Alberta, had to do much the same for a tree down by Burmis in the Crowsnest Pass. These useless idiots spent time and "someone elses money" the same way, propping up a dead tree by the hiway. Went by it last week, it has since met the ground and the steel and wire are left to harm "Gaia" my god! When people finally wake up and see these people are NUTS, nothing more, see James Hansens rant yesterday, the cupboard will not even exist. Spend the money on your in dept Oylmpic housing BC!

"Get beyond traditional politics".

Allow me to decrypt the message...

"Hopefully, there will be no visible or audible opposition and we can get this done quietly enough that the victim we are burglaring will remain asleep"

Leftist Mental Disorder is sad thing to behold, is it not?

It's nothing, but a rotting chunk of cedar that these idiots are preventing from returning to the forest floor to become part of the soil from whence it sprang some three or four hundred years ago.

My advice to these people is, get a freakin' life!

Where's that chainsaw?

Oh that's nothing! Some of the same twits were all set to spend $60+ Million to add bicycle paths to the outer edges of the historic Burrard Street bridge, just to let a relatively few bicyclists across ... and in the process, permanently deface the beautiful Art Deco bridge forever.

I've come to believe that there's no limit to the amount of money a Left-leaning mind is willing to waste. Incidentally, that's YOUR MONEY they're willing to waste, not their own!

Don't buy into the Olympic doom & gloom scenarios being pushed by the "what's the next crisis" MSM.

90% of what has been reported is usual MSM crap & lies. CTV last night saying the cause was that the condos aren't selling because the Vancouver real estate market has "collapsed".

Some collapse. Places that went up $700,000 in value in 10 years are now on the market at a price down by 5%-10% off the peak price. That's my kind of collapse.

Fact: Only phase 1 has been offered for sale. Places sold out in minutes at prices in excess of $1000/sq ft. The rest of the development will sell - it is prime waterfront property.

The problem is financing - can you say global financial crisis ? The financing firm (Fortress) got caught out and is having trouble getting the money organized. The village is 75% complete now - they are working interiors and as Vancouver city moves to be the financier the asset is real concrete, glass and valuable waterfront property.

The village will be built, the Olympics will be successful - Vancouver will get international media coverage worth $Billions in advertising. Great for tourism and real estate because it will mean people want to live here.

The reporting has been, as usual, 99% sensational hysterics - gotta sell that advertising space after all, and 1% fact.

The noise out of the media comes from the usual pollyanna sources who think the only good investments are millions of free needles for druggies, government funded warm & cozy shoot-up galleries and GLBT Summer festivals.

Ticket sales for the Olympic events sold out and very heavily over-subscribed. The vast silent majority of folks here are eagerly waiting for this time next year when we will be days away from hosting the world winter games.

What Robert W said about the Burrard St Bridge . .

This is what it looks like - well when the fog lifts :)

http://www.katkam.ca/

Common sense over nostalgia. We have pictures spaced about 25 years apart of various members of the family who went out to Vancouver and had their picture taken beside the hollow tree. Oh well ashes to ashes, dust to dust.

Fred & Joe.

I thank you both for saving me a lot of typing.

Just wait until they realize that all the trees they planted to save the world release most of the CO2 when they die.

On the other hand some trees are worth remembering:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Danger_Tree

Go tree go!!!!

I love watching Chicken Little greenies, run around looking for their heads!

Just love it, har de harhar...

Just read Mark Steyn's latest. His article illustrates so clearly what's incredibly wrong with government - all government.

Midway through the piece I got to thinking, "Vancouver politicians probably regret they're not part of the U.S. Otherwise, they could have declared a Federal Emergency for the recent snowfall.

And they could also declare a Federal Dead Old Tree Emergency. Dear Old Tree, please come back to life. Dear Old Federal Government, please give us $265,000 to research why dead old trees won't come back to life. N.B. $50,000 for non-Xmas Xmas Party!

Dear eco nuts:
In a system, a process that occurs will tend to increase the total entropy of the universe. -- second law of thermodynamics. Read and weep.

It could be worse - instead of clinging to a dead tree they could be clinging to God and guns...

For a $215,000 engineering fee, you could have some sculptor come up with a way to make a cast of the tree and replicate it in all it's glory.

The Burmis tree:

Then

http://tinyurl.com/9pq89r

And now

http://tinyurl.com/9aryh8

Still had traces of green the first time I saw it.

"i talk to the trees
but they don't listen to me...."

anyway...been thru the tree since i was in diapers.....and now i know she's DNR,ready for the boneyard i intend to drive by today and cut me a piece off.....i will keep the genetic information safe for future generations who will hopefully see the folly of their ancestors...then i expect a cloning will be possible....and then Stanley park will reassume it's environmental balance...Vancouver and it's citizens will profit from the return to Gaian harmony....

The hollow tree in Stanley Park is a well known spot for queers to hookup with each other and have sex in the surrounding bushes. Maybe they're simply trying to stave off the widespread confusion and misery that would ensue if it were removed.

As to the real estate thing, I have friends in real estate who have been telling me for a couple of years now that the condo market in Vancouver has been overdeveloped for some time...a slump in prices is inevitable.

The best thing that happened in Vancouvewr a couple of years ago was the big winter storm that flattened about 1/3 of the trees in Stanley Park. The eco-nuts set their hair on fire. After preventing the city from removing 13 trees along the highway to widen it mother nature came along and destroyed 15,000 trees.

What these stories show is that when you don't adhere to good business practices problems occur.

Same problem we have in Langley. After getting a grant from the B.C. province to build an Events Centre the township went ahead and started construction without having ALL the financing in place. They suggested to the feds they needed another 5 mil to complete but never officially applied for the loot. Of course it didn't come and the taxpayers are on the hook for 5 mil. They could'nt understand why the feds wouldn't come up with the money. After all they did send a letter to Ottawa saying they were building this facility and it would be "nice" if the feds could help out.

Politicians, especially left-wingnuts are stupid.

Horny Toad

So, perhaps to save the tree they could pray to Obama, "da ONE, da Messiah":

"HOLLOW be thy name...eh."

These are people who live in the past. The tree is deead. Let its disintegration feed a forest of new trees!

These are people who live in the past. The tree is deead. Let its disintegration feed a forest of new trees!

That is such a powerful image. Wow. Just wow. A dead tree, propped up by humanity's vain attempt to save the world.

My God people!
We bailed out Montreal in '76
We bailed out Bombardier (over and over again)
We bailed out Jean Chretien and his Adscam followers
We are throwing money at the auto industry to delay their demise..

WHY NOT just fire up the printing presses and bail out the Left Coast? Fair is Fair....

Just hold off long enough until I can afford a wheelbarrow to carry the money to purchase that loaf of bread!

"As an artist I love the power of the Hollow Tree--the great hollow that that was carved by wind and time--its great size, the fifth-largest ever recorded for a Western Red Cedar,"

Of all the comments at the link, this one stood out for me, as indicative of the mentality of the people interested in "saving" a dead tree.

I spent 11 years in the BC Forest Service, many of them as a timber cruiser, measuring the height and diameter of the trees, then laying out the cut blocks for the logging companies.

I can't tell the diameter of the tree pictured, but it doesn't look nearly as big as dozens of trees we "D-taped" on the Coast North of Pemberton. There's nothing special about this tree, other than it's location, near the heart of environmental looney country.

Trees have a life cycle, just as everything else does, and it's kind of sad that some folks don't seem to be able to accept it. As someone said earlier, cut the damned thing up, and plant a new one.

And for any that are so f***ed up about it, sell them each a little piece at $25 each. They can put it on their coffee table, and some day explain to their grandchildren why they paid 425 for a little piece of wood.

Why not cut that thing into matchbox-sized pieces, and sell them for $100 each?

I've seen a lot of people buy treed building lots, and save the wrong trees. The big old trees don't adapt well to surrounding development, while the young trees grow with the new surroundings.

If they really want to keep that old tree in its natural state, it should be allowed to fall over, naturally. A new generation of kids could crawl through it horizontally.

Fred- You say a 10% drop in condo prices is acceptable when you consider past price increases. Tell that to all the people who just bought one last year. Some of them have mortgages that amount to more than 100% of the present value of the property. Throw in an economy in decline, and a slow real estate market, you have a whole bunch of people about to walk away from their homes.

To quote Albert Brooks, "Save the trees: I'm so sick of that. What are you going to do, build your house out of MEAT?"

Those kooks are doing the same thing that they accuse us of doing: affecting nature's course.

dmorris nails it !

It's not about the tree - it's about them.

You do have a way of getting to the common sense of an issue rather quickly Kate.

dmorris- You got the idea in ahead of me.

My brother was a timber cruiser in the 60's. My family has always been connected to the forest in one way or another. The sooner they get this snag out of there, the safer that park will be.

DMorris.....up Toba Inlet in the 60's i logged a BIG hollow shattered of course red cedar....and afterwards measured the stump....22 and one half foot diameter !

John Cleese:

the tree is dead. bereft of life it rests in peach. it has joined the forest invisible. it is an ex-tree. had you not nailed boards to it it would be lying on the bottom of the forest

Tree Shop Owner:
perhaps we better replace it then.

there is not a much loonier place than Vancouver. a city in a rainforest that claims a water crisis. a city council so opposed to Walmart that they put so many environmental retrictions ( not imposed on others) on them that they build the Walmarts in the suburbs so people have to drive three times as far. cutting of lanes on bridges for bicycles only so 50 bikes an hour can ride on the bridge while traffic idles for miles on the approaches.

I don't know why any of this is surprise, we live in the age of Viagra where nature is defied nightly.

The entire world is becoming nothing more than a giant prop for those who wish to live in fantasy land.

Let's pretend is the name of the game. We have all just pretended ourselves into a depression of sorts.

A lot of us pretended we were "richer than we think". That was a slogan used by the Scotia Bank until recently.

Jack nails it also !!

Why not just wedge Dr. Fruitbat and Algore against it?

As their egos slowly deflate the tree will come down safely and no one will hear any of them fall. Or care.

The problem with idiots like this is that they cannot tell the wood from the trees, the trees from the forest, the forest from concrete and that nature cannot be defied.
I was a faller on the West Coast of Vancouver island at Franklin River, in its heyday, when it was the biggest logging camp in the world. Trees like this were regularly cut. The biggest I saw was 24' in diameter. If these nutcases think spending money to prop up this relic is of value to tourism, then they need to expand their cultural lives and get out of Vancouver and into the bush.

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well kate, on the other hand, a dead tree isn't gonna run around
robbing folks and burglarizing homes...

"So, to recap... three hundred thousand taxpayer dollars
to facilitate drug use... and nothing to stop it."

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if you compare the tree base of today with the base as pictured circa 1920,it is obvious that about 4-6 ft has rotted of the base as the trunk settles into the ground.This is not the historic tree any more. It would be great for fencing or one honking big traditional Coast Salish fish barbeque.

Fred, prices in Vancouver are not off 5-10%, they are off 19% and counting. The correction is barely 5 months old and you're calling bottom? Good luck with that. The real estate religion kool-aid drunk in Vancouver is similar to the Liberal kool-aid drunk in TO it would seem.

Norman.....

i'm almost speechless with shock.......so you murdered untold numbers of trees in their prime.....and then you have the gall to come here and boast about it....i tell you, if there's any kind of justice in this life you'll get a septic red cedar sliver in your chain saw throttle finger one day....that'll show you.

i at least made sure my victims were quite dead before i wrapped chokers around them and hauled them with as much dignity as possible to the landing...i often sotto voce hummed "how fair an earth and loving"(which seemed fitting) by Sibelius as the corpse slowly bumped it's way to the ovens...oops..i mean the bullsaw....

That particular tree was a great attraction to the park. 30 years ago u could back your car in and park inside. It would hold a Volkswagon beetle.

However over the years so many people banged the tree that it had to be walled off.

Its been dead and an eyesore for a very long time.

The parks board in Vancouver has been and still is a socialist bastion impregnable by any but the most stalwart lefties.

I'll confess to a much worse crime than you old loggers. When I was a surveyor in the Peace Country, I used to cut huge old growth trees that were left to rot. I once cut one that was at least 36 inches (we had to cut out a block to get the saw into), and dropped it into a ravine. It was big enough to build a small bungalow. If that's not bad enough, I was working for an oil company.

Consider if u will the influx of chinese immigrants to Vancouver. Now some 45% of the population. Most of whom are considered wealthy.

How much of that wealth is dependent on the Hang Seng (Hong Kong stock market) that has collapsed. And what portion of their influx contributed to Vancouvers inflation.

Also Greedy Mayors increased the housing densities of most cities and municipalities in and around Vancouver with out matching infastructure improvements to handle the increased housing densities these density increases were of course to increase the tax base without added improvements to roads and such so now Vancouver is in perpetual grid lock with almost a quarter of the population just having learnt how to driver in the last 5 years,

Can you say disaster.

Ageing and death are inevitable; Leftards being, - well, leftards - , they can't get the point (not before the terminal care ward, anyway). Even buildings show their age after the first 800 years.

Whilst the NDP ran the provincial Government here for 8 years during the 90's they managed to put the province into recession during the greatest economic expansion in history the dotcom boom.

An example of their stewardship. There were 2 people in coma's at one of the major hospitals. Because they were special needs the government in its sensitive nature kept them alive at $450,000 per person per month. These 2 were brain dead. Thats right they were legally dead.

The NDP ran the provincial debt from some 16 billion to 30 billion dollars. That legacy has been kept intact by the Liberals who now run the place.

California has 32 billion in debt with a population of 30 billion people BC has 32 billion in debt with a population of 4 million people.

Heard any stories lately on how California is fairing with its massive debt.

That would be 30 million people in the Great State of California

Also the dollar quotes are US dollars.

If I had that tree on my lot i'd make it into kindling so I could lite my un pc wood stove.

Some of Vancouver's finest idiots no doubt. So many green Vancouverites, yet the businesses on Robson that keep their doors blocked open in +2C seem to find plenty of customers.

Some of Vancouver's finest idiots no doubt. So many green Vancouverites, yet the businesses on Robson that keep their doors blocked open in +2C seem to find plenty of customers.

I don't know, $215,000 for an unsafe eyesore or 2 cents for a package of matches and an end to the saga? Just sayin.