In the Calgary Herald photographer Robert Thivierge is quoted as saying, "Basically, polar opposites were protesting together ... It seemed kind of weird."
Based on what factual evidence does Mr. Thivierge surmise that these two groups are polar opposites?
Would it have been too much for the reporter, Annalise Klingbeil, to ask this simple question of him???
This is what I wrote in a forum back in March - the idea was already old with me by then:
"...Even the most casual observer can see that since the 1960s there has been a popular movement toward what can only be described as atavism. It is currently embodied in the apologists for Islamofascism, the eco-terrorists, the anti-"Zionist Occupation Government" militias and the outright nihilists (and each of the aforementioned groups inevitably include members who are exactly that). The flight from reason, civility and progress and the retreat to violence, irrationality, mob rule, degradation both personal and species-wide. Is that the world you want? Tribalism, division, hatreds both new and ancient perpetuated? Because when the militias, Islamofascists, and eco-monkeyf___ers find their common ground - and it's a LARGE common ground - that's exactly what the West will have achieved at last, the barbarians won't be at the gates because they are living among us right now. A culture that prizes sloth, hive mind as the rule of right, violence, and irrationality - that's a barbarian culture."
I knew it was only a matter of time until the left hooked up with the islamisc terrorist calling for the blood of the Jews. I just didn't think it would happen this fast. To now have them in a brotherhood with the aryan guard is possibly the most unholiest trio of alliance imaginable.
Faber now in the paper making a feeble attempt to say he is upset. Too late, you stupid son of a bitch, you squandered your integrity on shit house nazi's. Get to hell out the way, and get someone who understands what has been going on under your nose for the last ten years.
" ... the barbarians won't be at the gates because they are living among us right now. A culture that prizes sloth, hive mind as the rule of right, violence, and irrationality - that's a barbarian culture."
And what was our North American shield against barbarism for over two centuries? Our Judeo-Christian faith, which mitigated against sloth, which championed individualism tempered by "loving my neighbour as myself," which stood on the watchtower, and nurtured reason. Having forfeited the faith of our forefathers and mothers, we opened the floodgates to profligate usurpers of all that our J-C society was based on.
This is the sad reality and to not understand this is to more or less consign ourselves to the dust bin of history. We seem well on our way.
You should catch the Pride Parade in Totonto because naked males gets to flaunt their penis to little boys on the route while the Mayor and Police Chief are in the parade with Jack and Olivia as well.
This quasi-pedophilia is allowed to go on and Mayor Miller orders the Police Chief to not arrest them because it's a sexual preference protected in our Charter Of Rights.
Sadly though, Police will arrest the Christians that protest this Pedophilia by merely holding a sign in the crowd on the route.
Mayor Miller has stayed mute over the Pro-Hamas/anti-gay rallies where Muslims are now making death threats to canadian civilians for backing Israel , we have see the usual Che Flags, hezballah flags, Palestinian suicide bomber dress with Green Jihad headband and white KKK sheet.
The media is afraid to use the "M" word for these mobs, but one look at the usual yahoo in the crowds and they aren't Hindus/Sikhs or mormon.
There are way more Morons that Mormons , maybe CAIR and Palestine House had a Typo in their promo releases.
Photo Op in downtown streets of Canadian cities, Nazis on the march. Easy to find, just look for the protective Police cordon, no skulking in washrooms needed. Bigotry, hatred and racism on display in broad daylight.
Easy to find, just look for the protective Police cordon.
Paging Mr. Kinsella, or Peter Pansbridge, or George Strombombobombo or any big mouth Liberal.
The progressives & such fools, forget that this is how Hitler came to power .
Hitler was the leader of the Germal National Socialist Workers Party. (NDP in Canada)
He was elected to his position, kinda and later as a result of an upheaval in German Parliment (kinda like a coalition) was requested to become the Chancellor, by their version of the Govenor General (Starting to sound familiar)
NAZI's are leftards, when it is convenient, just like Libbers are for the common man, when they don't or can't get funded by major corporations.
NDP are for the working stiff, until they get lots of loot from Islamists. etc.
The link between the West's caving into the barbarian hordes—which has been going on for some time now—has EVERYTHING to do with our loss of confidence in our own faith story: the Judeo-Christian one. G.K. Chesterton, "If you don't stand for something, you'll fall for anything."
I’m as spooked by the West's lack of backbone (and ashamed too) as I am by the public violence of the entitled Muslim thugs on our main streets, now just around the corner—which is one of the results of our cowardice. (A close relative was against our involvement in the ME because he thought such appeasement would spare us the Muslim wrath: what a fool. Comeuppance? One of the demonstrations took place five minutes from his home.)
We’ve just about depleted the moral capital bequeathed to us by the Judeo-Christian dispensation: as Michael H. Anderson writes above, note "... [t]he flight from reason, civility and progress and the retreat to violence, irrationality, mob rule, degradation both personal and species-wide . . .”
To mix metaphors, the genie’s out of the bottle and one can’t make silk purses out of [the] sows’ ears [the lefty, utopian, brain dead, non citizens our society’s been busy churning out]: it seems to me we’ve already reached the tipping point. When all our public institutions are either set up to let the Muslims off the hook or actually smooth the way for their duplicity—schools committed to “diversity” (read, anti-authority, anti-Christian, anti-tradition), university speech codes, our courts and even police forces bound to the Charter, etc.—I fear it may be too late to stem this killer tide.
I think that at one time, way, way, back in their history, before unions existed, the NDP had something to offer the "working stiff". (Although I've never believed that socialism is the answer). Now they've morphed into the party of fringe causes - the more fringe and way out there the better. With the rise of our welfare state over the past 40 years they are more for the "non-working stiff". I'm hoping that they can't draw on the mythology of being there for ordinary working Canadians any more - just look at who they're hanging around with !
Right on, Michael Anderson and batb, and consider this also, that when you gut a culture which socialism is required to do the public square gets filled with some pretty ugly ideas and anti-social people. Look no farther than Europe which is a couple decades ahead of us on that road.
The handful of pathetic white boy skinhead sociopaths are a distraction compared to the whole ugly Muslim context which the left either ignores or sanitizes.
NA Jews need to do some hard thinking as to whom exactly is returning them to the 1930's and it sure as hell isn't the conservative Christians that they so love to vilify. It sure isn't Republicans/Conservatives either. It's time to get your heads out of the sand.
michael anderson - there's no such thing as an 'evolution of culture', so I'll disagree with your view of barbarism as indicative of mankind's ancient lifestyle. And in particular, as operating within 'sloth, hive mind, violence and irrationality'. That's the old Hobbesian view of mankind and doesn't have much evidence for it. All these modes of behaviour are individual and can still be found.
The difference in culture is population size and economic mode, which are directly related to each other. The difference is also due to our accumulation of knowledge. Our species doesn't operate by genetic but by socially developed, learned and stored knowledge. So, we 'know' more about the world and how to interact with it than did our ancestors. We know that germs, not 'evil spirits' cause disease..and so on.
Nazism and Islamic fascism aren't polar opposities; they are both fascist. And that means that both are collectivist and utopian ideologies.
A major difference between now and the 1930s, in my view, is that the people, the everyday individual, have more power. I put this power down to the internet and blogs. We can find out information, we can share it, we can reject inaccurate data and we can express it. All of this was impossible back then. I think we shouldn't underestimate the power of this force to enact change and 'repel the barbarians'.
As a follow up to batb's observation this was by coincidence in today's Daily Mail, the Archbishop of York condemning uncontrolled immigration:
The Archbishop's powerful attack on uncontrolled immigration and on the Left-wing interpretation of multiculturalism that encourages migrants to ignore traditional British values, was made in a speech to Gordon Brown's think tank, the Smith Institute.
Dr Sentamu, a trustee of the Institute, has previously criticised multiculturalism and official neglect of the importance of Christian thinking and history.
Ezra Levant has some suggestions about what to do about these rallies. Rallies obviously can't be stopped; nor can we 'vett' the rallies to ensure that they say only what the government wants (as is done in Arab etc states).
But with regard to the expression of 'mass hatred' (where ALL members of a defined group are defined as evil), something can be done about that if these are public statements. I refer to any 'mass hatred' type of rally, not just the anti-Israeli/Jewish rallies.
He says that all that will happen is that the rally organizers might be charged under section 318-9 of the criminal code, ie, for promoting hatred and genoicde. That's all that we can do in the criminal area.
But, politicians have to denounce, not all rallies, but these types of rallies (where ALL members of a group are defined as identically evil).
And above all, the Union participation in these rallies ought to be stopped, fined by the government. There has to be a Supreme Court Case about the political activism of unions. Political decisions must be made by individuals or groups of individuals whose mandate is for that group. A union's mandate ought to be confined to the well-being of the work environment of its members. Period. Unions have no business getting involved in political activism.
ET, I altogether concur re the unions' political activities—all left, all the time and often counter productive to the needs of their members. E.g., Teachers’ unions support anything anti-authority and anything that entitles the kids, and we all know—or should—that one cannot teach effectively when teachers have been divested of their authority, while the kids have all the rights.
My union actually tried to pass a pro-abortion motion a number of years ago: the Chairwoman, a hired lawyer, who happened to be—whoops!—both Christian and conservative, disallowed the motion, saying that the union had no jurisdiction to pass judgement on such an issue on behalf of its members. (This woman, of course, was never invited back!) What idiots! I’m against abortion for other reasons entirely, but do these ignoramuses not realize that abortion, on average, kills off about 3500 classrooms PER YEAR? That’s lots of lost jobs for teachers and lost $$ for the union. ’Talk about cutting off one’s nose to spite one’s face. What cretins!
I’d love to see the unions charged under Sections 318-19 of the Criminal Code. Losing some $$ might make the members wake up and speak out.
An asteroid? How about an asteroid that impacts on Jerusalem, spreading destruction outward and obliterating all parties in the region! Then maybe the rest of us can on with our lives and stop having to watch media dominated by the antics of these shitty little countries and their fanatical denizens!
ET, not sure where I said there was such a thing as evolution of culture or that the problem is genetic in origin. I was simply speaking about culture that is progressive vs. morally bankrupt culture. But I do thank you for the injection of optimism about pushing back the advancing darkness - maybe I was just having a bad day, and my perception that a lot of Canadians (like the rest of the world) are caught up in some kind of deep regression is just coloured by that fact. Except that I've been watching this situation get worse for a long time now. Like forty years.
When Rome fell, at least they had the excuse of being brain-addled by lead poisoning (they lined the aqueducts with lead. It seemed like a good way to waterproof them at the time...)
I'm not sure what's addling the minds of the dimwits wrecking the west today. I'd like an inoculation though, if possible.
To Edward Teach: Or said another way, "When the Islamicists show up to protest the Zionists, you're not suppose to pick a side, your suppose to pray for an asteroid".
There is a connection between the area of Iran to India and the Nazis.
In fact, the Aryans were a people who were originally in India as outlined in the Bagvad Gita (or however you spell it) which is part of the Hindu texts dating from a few thousand years ago. The swastika was another concept from the area which Hitler stole. Both concepts had no evil taint to them before WWII and still don't in India. I'm sure the Hindus were downright miffed at the userpation of their symbols by some nutty upstart with a bad mustache.
In other words, the true symbols that the nazis corrupted had nothing at all to do with Germans, socialists or white people at all.
The nazis grasped upon the Aryan moniker because they were lighter in skin but of course, this was relative. They weren't fricken Swedish.
Hitler was a well known pagan, dabbled in the occult, was a vegetarian, health and nature fanatic.
The police keep cringing from this group of death worshippers which intimidate them at every turn. Mainly to show us all who really is in charge. Than the police turn on the peaceful, honest ones, because of their impotence against the real threat. We seen it all in Caledonia. My point here is that in the future for real protection Canadians may have to band together in community militia’s for protection. It seems the police will only protect the well off or famous.
Certainly not Jews. If history follows the same course if the Islamic take over the authorities will just continue to do there bidding. Its been so in every Nation taken over from Nazis to communists. The Country's police always fall in line with the power of the day. No matter how obscene or immoral. The law is the law even if its unjust. If you doubt this go to Ezra’s blog & watch the cowardice of the English bobbies as they are routed & insulted. It was shameful to watch as the jihadists hurled insults at them as they fled in fear.
JMO
"I’m as spooked by the West's lack of backbone (and ashamed too) as I am by the public violence of the entitled Muslim thugs on our main streets, now just around the corner—which is one of the results of our cowardice."
We can't have a backbone IMO, here is why:
"I've noticed that nobody mentions average dudes like myself can't physically(or verbally) do anything about what we see around us. For lack of a better expression, our hands are tied behind our backs. People can muse about fighting back, going for our gunz ect, but as a white dude you'd be getting familiar with a 5'x9' and a big dude named Bubba(or Cleatis to be PC) very quickly. Not to mention your family will most likely be ostracized publicly.
This is the result of the on going war against men being waged by the very people we bend over backwards to accommodate(and I'm not talking about Muslims). Who are women, gays, handicaps and children going to turn to? "
Oh yea. What we're seeing in the streets is simpy 'paranoia'. Damn my lying eyes.
ET: "There has to be a Supreme Court Case about the political activism of unions."
Already been done and the Courts sided with the union. Premise: unions are democratic institutions and the members have the 'right' and 'duty' to instruct the union regarding it's activities.
no guff - yes, I know about that court case, but the Supreme Court case I'm envisaging is where the Union Executive is, on its own initiative, taking action.
These include Sid Ryan's statements about essentially outlawing Israeli professors in Canada; it includes these anti-Israel marches, it includes donations to political campaigns (eg, Miller in Toronto is heavily indebted to unions for their money AND their 'in-kind' work on his and his councillors' campaigns). I'm quite sure that none of these actions was approved by the Union workers.
Furthermore, because ONE case went through our leftist dominated Supreme Court, doesn't mean that it shouldn't be asked to review the question again.
Warwick: "I'm not sure what's addling the minds of the dimwits wrecking the west today."
Read my post at 7:00 a.m. today! Forsaking the faith of our forefathers and mothers has been far more devastating than lead in the Romans' water.
Thanks, penny, for the link to the article on the Archbishop of York's assessment of multiculturalism run amok in Britain. Ironically, what he said could probably not have been said by a white, Anglo-Saxon. Dr. Sentamu is a Ugandan who arrived in England in the early 1970s. But, thank God, he is saying what he's saying. Someone's got to.
[begin quote from article]
... Dr John Sentamu said the failure of migrants to integrate had contributed to the collapse of a common British culture and the lack of a national sense of direction.
He called for recognition of the Christian heritage which used to bind the nation together and for a revival of the civic values once represented by myriad local clubs, churches and trade unions.
The Archbishop's powerful attack on uncontrolled immigration and on the Left-wing interpretation of multiculturalism that encourages migrants to ignore traditional British values, was made in a speech to Gordon Brown's think tank, the Smith Institute.
Dr Sentamu, a trustee of the Institute, has previously criticised multiculturalism and official neglect of the importance of Christian thinking and history. ...
[end quote]
What Dr. Sentamu doesn't point out, however, is the fact that multiculuralism has been able to take a stranglehold of Europe, Britain, and North America because a critical mass of those of Judeo-Christian heritage don't have the courage of their convictions, they lack "backbone," as lookout has pointed out.
Multiculturalism could never have grown as all-pervasive and stultifying of common values if our Judeo-Christian faith had not grown lukewarm to non-existent. When common values were held by the majority of the population, we could count on common sense and the common law -- upon which we could all agree, except for a few whackos on the fringes of the political spectrum. Our spiritual values were actually weapons against the kind of tryannical barbarism we're experiencing now ... in Canada ... on our streets ...
When the watchmen abandon the watchtowers, the enemy has a very easy time entering and taking over the city.
ET: "where the Union Executive is, on its own initiative, taking action."
C'mon ET, you understand how these things work. It's like 'negative billing' - unless the members turn out in force to demand reform, the 'leaders', who are dyed in the wool,committed, leftist/communists can do pretty much what ever they deem to be 'in the best interests' of the members.
And having been a reluctant union member in my younger days, I know full well just what type of people show up at union meetings - the same ones who aspire to becoming union executives.
As for the Supremes, why would they suddenly decide to reverse direction and tread another path? Certainly the opinion of the Canadian electorate is of no concern to them.
Fact 1 The Aryans did not originate in India, they migrated there. The caste system was based on skin colour in India, although now it is primarily economic. Previously, the lighter the skin the higher the position in society. There are today many blue-eyed Sikhs.
Fact 2 The swastika is not uniquely an Indian symbol, it can be found on ancient Greek, Roman, Germanic and East Asian artifacts. Hitler stole it from no one. There were War bonds issued by Britain during the First World War decorated with swastikas.
Fact 3 Nazi "true" symbols such as the SS and other runes had everything to do with Nordic peoples and no one else.
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In the Calgary Herald photographer Robert Thivierge is quoted as saying, "Basically, polar opposites were protesting together ... It seemed kind of weird."
Based on what factual evidence does Mr. Thivierge surmise that these two groups are polar opposites?
Would it have been too much for the reporter, Annalise Klingbeil, to ask this simple question of him???
As we’ve always said – The liberal loons support nazi’s.
Wonder why WK wasn’t out there with his camera? Maybe because a Jew hating Jihadist might get in the way of the shot?
"""Wonder why WK wasn’t out there with his camera?""""
he got stuck in the toilet!!!!
This is what I wrote in a forum back in March - the idea was already old with me by then:
"...Even the most casual observer can see that since the 1960s there has been a popular movement toward what can only be described as atavism. It is currently embodied in the apologists for Islamofascism, the eco-terrorists, the anti-"Zionist Occupation Government" militias and the outright nihilists (and each of the aforementioned groups inevitably include members who are exactly that). The flight from reason, civility and progress and the retreat to violence, irrationality, mob rule, degradation both personal and species-wide. Is that the world you want? Tribalism, division, hatreds both new and ancient perpetuated? Because when the militias, Islamofascists, and eco-monkeyf___ers find their common ground - and it's a LARGE common ground - that's exactly what the West will have achieved at last, the barbarians won't be at the gates because they are living among us right now. A culture that prizes sloth, hive mind as the rule of right, violence, and irrationality - that's a barbarian culture."
Sometimes I hate being right.
I knew it was only a matter of time until the left hooked up with the islamisc terrorist calling for the blood of the Jews. I just didn't think it would happen this fast. To now have them in a brotherhood with the aryan guard is possibly the most unholiest trio of alliance imaginable.
Faber now in the paper making a feeble attempt to say he is upset. Too late, you stupid son of a bitch, you squandered your integrity on shit house nazi's. Get to hell out the way, and get someone who understands what has been going on under your nose for the last ten years.
Well-said Michael H. Anderson.
" ... the barbarians won't be at the gates because they are living among us right now. A culture that prizes sloth, hive mind as the rule of right, violence, and irrationality - that's a barbarian culture."
And what was our North American shield against barbarism for over two centuries? Our Judeo-Christian faith, which mitigated against sloth, which championed individualism tempered by "loving my neighbour as myself," which stood on the watchtower, and nurtured reason. Having forfeited the faith of our forefathers and mothers, we opened the floodgates to profligate usurpers of all that our J-C society was based on.
This is the sad reality and to not understand this is to more or less consign ourselves to the dust bin of history. We seem well on our way.
Kyrie Eleison.
The circle is joined.
Left = Islam = Nazi
You should catch the Pride Parade in Totonto because naked males gets to flaunt their penis to little boys on the route while the Mayor and Police Chief are in the parade with Jack and Olivia as well.
This quasi-pedophilia is allowed to go on and Mayor Miller orders the Police Chief to not arrest them because it's a sexual preference protected in our Charter Of Rights.
Sadly though, Police will arrest the Christians that protest this Pedophilia by merely holding a sign in the crowd on the route.
Mayor Miller has stayed mute over the Pro-Hamas/anti-gay rallies where Muslims are now making death threats to canadian civilians for backing Israel , we have see the usual Che Flags, hezballah flags, Palestinian suicide bomber dress with Green Jihad headband and white KKK sheet.
The media is afraid to use the "M" word for these mobs, but one look at the usual yahoo in the crowds and they aren't Hindus/Sikhs or mormon.
There are way more Morons that Mormons , maybe CAIR and Palestine House had a Typo in their promo releases.
Paging Warren Kinsella, paging Mr. Kinsella.
Photo Op in downtown streets of Canadian cities, Nazis on the march. Easy to find, just look for the protective Police cordon, no skulking in washrooms needed. Bigotry, hatred and racism on display in broad daylight.
Easy to find, just look for the protective Police cordon.
Paging Mr. Kinsella, or Peter Pansbridge, or George Strombombobombo or any big mouth Liberal.
Anyone ??
Why is this a surprise? The name "Iran" means "Land of Aryans". You have to be fairly ignorant not to realize that there's a connection.
The progressives & such fools, forget that this is how Hitler came to power .
Hitler was the leader of the Germal National Socialist Workers Party. (NDP in Canada)
He was elected to his position, kinda and later as a result of an upheaval in German Parliment (kinda like a coalition) was requested to become the Chancellor, by their version of the Govenor General (Starting to sound familiar)
NAZI's are leftards, when it is convenient, just like Libbers are for the common man, when they don't or can't get funded by major corporations.
NDP are for the working stiff, until they get lots of loot from Islamists. etc.
more news from our arab friends
http://www.ctv.ca/servlet/ArticleNews/story/CTVNews/20090114/Saudi_cleric_090114/20090114?hub=TopStories
then again, Canada has Bountiful BC
AMEN, batb!
The link between the West's caving into the barbarian hordes—which has been going on for some time now—has EVERYTHING to do with our loss of confidence in our own faith story: the Judeo-Christian one. G.K. Chesterton, "If you don't stand for something, you'll fall for anything."
I’m as spooked by the West's lack of backbone (and ashamed too) as I am by the public violence of the entitled Muslim thugs on our main streets, now just around the corner—which is one of the results of our cowardice. (A close relative was against our involvement in the ME because he thought such appeasement would spare us the Muslim wrath: what a fool. Comeuppance? One of the demonstrations took place five minutes from his home.)
We’ve just about depleted the moral capital bequeathed to us by the Judeo-Christian dispensation: as Michael H. Anderson writes above, note "... [t]he flight from reason, civility and progress and the retreat to violence, irrationality, mob rule, degradation both personal and species-wide . . .”
To mix metaphors, the genie’s out of the bottle and one can’t make silk purses out of [the] sows’ ears [the lefty, utopian, brain dead, non citizens our society’s been busy churning out]: it seems to me we’ve already reached the tipping point. When all our public institutions are either set up to let the Muslims off the hook or actually smooth the way for their duplicity—schools committed to “diversity” (read, anti-authority, anti-Christian, anti-tradition), university speech codes, our courts and even police forces bound to the Charter, etc.—I fear it may be too late to stem this killer tide.
Kyrie eleison.
irwin,
You'renoit supposed to have 2 equal signs on the same line; a more correct equation would be:
Left + Islam + Nazi = Rightoid Paranoia
Schools drop Holocaust lessons to avoid offence...
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/education/article1600686.ece
I think that at one time, way, way, back in their history, before unions existed, the NDP had something to offer the "working stiff". (Although I've never believed that socialism is the answer). Now they've morphed into the party of fringe causes - the more fringe and way out there the better. With the rise of our welfare state over the past 40 years they are more for the "non-working stiff". I'm hoping that they can't draw on the mythology of being there for ordinary working Canadians any more - just look at who they're hanging around with !
Alex,
Thank you for being the first in demonstrating just how truly ignorant you are.
not stirred enough (obviously),
You got that wrong!
Left + Nazi + Islam = not stirred enough said
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Thank you for expressing your worthless opinion while providing no information or any relevant facts. Do you work for the CBC?
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Right on, Michael Anderson and batb, and consider this also, that when you gut a culture which socialism is required to do the public square gets filled with some pretty ugly ideas and anti-social people. Look no farther than Europe which is a couple decades ahead of us on that road.
The handful of pathetic white boy skinhead sociopaths are a distraction compared to the whole ugly Muslim context which the left either ignores or sanitizes.
NA Jews need to do some hard thinking as to whom exactly is returning them to the 1930's and it sure as hell isn't the conservative Christians that they so love to vilify. It sure isn't Republicans/Conservatives either. It's time to get your heads out of the sand.
michael anderson - there's no such thing as an 'evolution of culture', so I'll disagree with your view of barbarism as indicative of mankind's ancient lifestyle. And in particular, as operating within 'sloth, hive mind, violence and irrationality'. That's the old Hobbesian view of mankind and doesn't have much evidence for it. All these modes of behaviour are individual and can still be found.
The difference in culture is population size and economic mode, which are directly related to each other. The difference is also due to our accumulation of knowledge. Our species doesn't operate by genetic but by socially developed, learned and stored knowledge. So, we 'know' more about the world and how to interact with it than did our ancestors. We know that germs, not 'evil spirits' cause disease..and so on.
Nazism and Islamic fascism aren't polar opposities; they are both fascist. And that means that both are collectivist and utopian ideologies.
A major difference between now and the 1930s, in my view, is that the people, the everyday individual, have more power. I put this power down to the internet and blogs. We can find out information, we can share it, we can reject inaccurate data and we can express it. All of this was impossible back then. I think we shouldn't underestimate the power of this force to enact change and 'repel the barbarians'.
As a follow up to batb's observation this was by coincidence in today's Daily Mail, the Archbishop of York condemning uncontrolled immigration:
The Archbishop's powerful attack on uncontrolled immigration and on the Left-wing interpretation of multiculturalism that encourages migrants to ignore traditional British values, was made in a speech to Gordon Brown's think tank, the Smith Institute.
Dr Sentamu, a trustee of the Institute, has previously criticised multiculturalism and official neglect of the importance of Christian thinking and history.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1114604/The-migrants-just-dont-belong-Archbishop-York.html
Ezra Levant has some suggestions about what to do about these rallies. Rallies obviously can't be stopped; nor can we 'vett' the rallies to ensure that they say only what the government wants (as is done in Arab etc states).
But with regard to the expression of 'mass hatred' (where ALL members of a defined group are defined as evil), something can be done about that if these are public statements. I refer to any 'mass hatred' type of rally, not just the anti-Israeli/Jewish rallies.
He says that all that will happen is that the rally organizers might be charged under section 318-9 of the criminal code, ie, for promoting hatred and genoicde. That's all that we can do in the criminal area.
But, politicians have to denounce, not all rallies, but these types of rallies (where ALL members of a group are defined as identically evil).
And above all, the Union participation in these rallies ought to be stopped, fined by the government. There has to be a Supreme Court Case about the political activism of unions. Political decisions must be made by individuals or groups of individuals whose mandate is for that group. A union's mandate ought to be confined to the well-being of the work environment of its members. Period. Unions have no business getting involved in political activism.
ET, I altogether concur re the unions' political activities—all left, all the time and often counter productive to the needs of their members. E.g., Teachers’ unions support anything anti-authority and anything that entitles the kids, and we all know—or should—that one cannot teach effectively when teachers have been divested of their authority, while the kids have all the rights.
My union actually tried to pass a pro-abortion motion a number of years ago: the Chairwoman, a hired lawyer, who happened to be—whoops!—both Christian and conservative, disallowed the motion, saying that the union had no jurisdiction to pass judgement on such an issue on behalf of its members. (This woman, of course, was never invited back!) What idiots! I’m against abortion for other reasons entirely, but do these ignoramuses not realize that abortion, on average, kills off about 3500 classrooms PER YEAR? That’s lots of lost jobs for teachers and lost $$ for the union. ’Talk about cutting off one’s nose to spite one’s face. What cretins!
I’d love to see the unions charged under Sections 318-19 of the Criminal Code. Losing some $$ might make the members wake up and speak out.
An asteroid? How about an asteroid that impacts on Jerusalem, spreading destruction outward and obliterating all parties in the region! Then maybe the rest of us can on with our lives and stop having to watch media dominated by the antics of these shitty little countries and their fanatical denizens!
ET, not sure where I said there was such a thing as evolution of culture or that the problem is genetic in origin. I was simply speaking about culture that is progressive vs. morally bankrupt culture. But I do thank you for the injection of optimism about pushing back the advancing darkness - maybe I was just having a bad day, and my perception that a lot of Canadians (like the rest of the world) are caught up in some kind of deep regression is just coloured by that fact. Except that I've been watching this situation get worse for a long time now. Like forty years.
batb and Lookout, thanks for thoughtful comments.
When Rome fell, at least they had the excuse of being brain-addled by lead poisoning (they lined the aqueducts with lead. It seemed like a good way to waterproof them at the time...)
I'm not sure what's addling the minds of the dimwits wrecking the west today. I'd like an inoculation though, if possible.
To Edward Teach: Or said another way, "When the Islamicists show up to protest the Zionists, you're not suppose to pick a side, your suppose to pray for an asteroid".
Doug,
There is a connection between the area of Iran to India and the Nazis.
In fact, the Aryans were a people who were originally in India as outlined in the Bagvad Gita (or however you spell it) which is part of the Hindu texts dating from a few thousand years ago. The swastika was another concept from the area which Hitler stole. Both concepts had no evil taint to them before WWII and still don't in India. I'm sure the Hindus were downright miffed at the userpation of their symbols by some nutty upstart with a bad mustache.
In other words, the true symbols that the nazis corrupted had nothing at all to do with Germans, socialists or white people at all.
The nazis grasped upon the Aryan moniker because they were lighter in skin but of course, this was relative. They weren't fricken Swedish.
Hitler was a well known pagan, dabbled in the occult, was a vegetarian, health and nature fanatic.
History matters. Too bad no one knows any.
The police keep cringing from this group of death worshippers which intimidate them at every turn. Mainly to show us all who really is in charge. Than the police turn on the peaceful, honest ones, because of their impotence against the real threat. We seen it all in Caledonia. My point here is that in the future for real protection Canadians may have to band together in community militia’s for protection. It seems the police will only protect the well off or famous.
Certainly not Jews. If history follows the same course if the Islamic take over the authorities will just continue to do there bidding. Its been so in every Nation taken over from Nazis to communists. The Country's police always fall in line with the power of the day. No matter how obscene or immoral. The law is the law even if its unjust. If you doubt this go to Ezra’s blog & watch the cowardice of the English bobbies as they are routed & insulted. It was shameful to watch as the jihadists hurled insults at them as they fled in fear.
JMO
LOOKOUT SAID:
"I’m as spooked by the West's lack of backbone (and ashamed too) as I am by the public violence of the entitled Muslim thugs on our main streets, now just around the corner—which is one of the results of our cowardice."
We can't have a backbone IMO, here is why:
"I've noticed that nobody mentions average dudes like myself can't physically(or verbally) do anything about what we see around us. For lack of a better expression, our hands are tied behind our backs. People can muse about fighting back, going for our gunz ect, but as a white dude you'd be getting familiar with a 5'x9' and a big dude named Bubba(or Cleatis to be PC) very quickly. Not to mention your family will most likely be ostracized publicly.
This is the result of the on going war against men being waged by the very people we bend over backwards to accommodate(and I'm not talking about Muslims). Who are women, gays, handicaps and children going to turn to? "
Is there a cure to our problems?
Western Separation.
It's funny how this works for many of our problems today. Perhaps we are not addressing the real problem.
"Left + Islam + Nazi = Rightoid Paranoia"
Oh yea. What we're seeing in the streets is simpy 'paranoia'. Damn my lying eyes.
ET: "There has to be a Supreme Court Case about the political activism of unions."
Already been done and the Courts sided with the union. Premise: unions are democratic institutions and the members have the 'right' and 'duty' to instruct the union regarding it's activities.
an oldie but a goodie
http://dotsub.com/view/84f5c72d-b0ba-408c-ace3-8cc40995e011
no guff - yes, I know about that court case, but the Supreme Court case I'm envisaging is where the Union Executive is, on its own initiative, taking action.
These include Sid Ryan's statements about essentially outlawing Israeli professors in Canada; it includes these anti-Israel marches, it includes donations to political campaigns (eg, Miller in Toronto is heavily indebted to unions for their money AND their 'in-kind' work on his and his councillors' campaigns). I'm quite sure that none of these actions was approved by the Union workers.
Furthermore, because ONE case went through our leftist dominated Supreme Court, doesn't mean that it shouldn't be asked to review the question again.
Warwick: "I'm not sure what's addling the minds of the dimwits wrecking the west today."
Read my post at 7:00 a.m. today! Forsaking the faith of our forefathers and mothers has been far more devastating than lead in the Romans' water.
Thanks, penny, for the link to the article on the Archbishop of York's assessment of multiculturalism run amok in Britain. Ironically, what he said could probably not have been said by a white, Anglo-Saxon. Dr. Sentamu is a Ugandan who arrived in England in the early 1970s. But, thank God, he is saying what he's saying. Someone's got to.
[begin quote from article]
... Dr John Sentamu said the failure of migrants to integrate had contributed to the collapse of a common British culture and the lack of a national sense of direction.
He called for recognition of the Christian heritage which used to bind the nation together and for a revival of the civic values once represented by myriad local clubs, churches and trade unions.
The Archbishop's powerful attack on uncontrolled immigration and on the Left-wing interpretation of multiculturalism that encourages migrants to ignore traditional British values, was made in a speech to Gordon Brown's think tank, the Smith Institute.
Dr Sentamu, a trustee of the Institute, has previously criticised multiculturalism and official neglect of the importance of Christian thinking and history. ...
[end quote]
What Dr. Sentamu doesn't point out, however, is the fact that multiculuralism has been able to take a stranglehold of Europe, Britain, and North America because a critical mass of those of Judeo-Christian heritage don't have the courage of their convictions, they lack "backbone," as lookout has pointed out.
Multiculturalism could never have grown as all-pervasive and stultifying of common values if our Judeo-Christian faith had not grown lukewarm to non-existent. When common values were held by the majority of the population, we could count on common sense and the common law -- upon which we could all agree, except for a few whackos on the fringes of the political spectrum. Our spiritual values were actually weapons against the kind of tryannical barbarism we're experiencing now ... in Canada ... on our streets ...
When the watchmen abandon the watchtowers, the enemy has a very easy time entering and taking over the city.
What happend to the usual lefty trolls on this post?
Nothing but crickets chirping.
Left + Islam + Nazi = The circle is squared.
ET: "where the Union Executive is, on its own initiative, taking action."
C'mon ET, you understand how these things work. It's like 'negative billing' - unless the members turn out in force to demand reform, the 'leaders', who are dyed in the wool,committed, leftist/communists can do pretty much what ever they deem to be 'in the best interests' of the members.
And having been a reluctant union member in my younger days, I know full well just what type of people show up at union meetings - the same ones who aspire to becoming union executives.
As for the Supremes, why would they suddenly decide to reverse direction and tread another path? Certainly the opinion of the Canadian electorate is of no concern to them.
Knight 99: "What happend to the usual lefty trolls on this post?"
The watch[wo]men are on the watchtowers!
To the trolls: YOU MAY NOT PASS!
Warwick:
Fact 1 The Aryans did not originate in India, they migrated there. The caste system was based on skin colour in India, although now it is primarily economic. Previously, the lighter the skin the higher the position in society. There are today many blue-eyed Sikhs.
Fact 2 The swastika is not uniquely an Indian symbol, it can be found on ancient Greek, Roman, Germanic and East Asian artifacts. Hitler stole it from no one. There were War bonds issued by Britain during the First World War decorated with swastikas.
Fact 3 Nazi "true" symbols such as the SS and other runes had everything to do with Nordic peoples and no one else.
Learn some history from somewhere other than the History channel