Channel 4's Dorothy Byrne defends her network's choice of Christmas messenger;
"As the leader of one of the most powerful states in the Middle East, President Ahmadinejad's views are enormously influential. As we approach a critical time in international relations, we are offering our viewers an insight into an alternative world view."
To mark the historic event, Hamas legislators in Gaza legalize crucifixion.











Hamas legislators in Gaza legalize crucifixion.
Don't let Obama know. He might want to give it a whirl.
Speaking of which Obama told his staff that when he dies he wants to be buried inside the image of his face that would be built on Mt Rushmore.
His staff replied that the cost would be enormous and would run somewhere in the neighbourhood of 20 billion dollars.
Ridiculous replies the big O after all I will only need it for three days.
BBC's head of news and current affairs Lord Haw-Haw said: "As the leader of one of the most powerful states in Europe, Chancellor Hitler's views are enormously influential.
"As we approach a critical time in international relations, we are offering our viewers an insight into an alternative world view."
It's an terrible thing that awaits the people of the middle east.
Unfortunatly they have been indoctrinated by their leaders for hundreds of years to hate the infidel.
Us infidels will eventually tire of their attacks on our way of life.
As with all murderous extreemism, Islam will only be contained with an iron fist.
Crucifixion? At this time of year? Don't these dorks know the Easter Bunny doesn't come until spring? They're not getting any chocolate this year!
I think this is another one of those "not watching for the dinosaur" occurrences.
This can ONLY be the result of drinking too much JUICE!
Powerful article. I can't wait to read the lefties response to it.
However, I do suspect they will pretend not to have read it and this thread will be absent of their usual ill-informed comments.
"Middle East" ?!?!
Consult your atlas Dorothy.
For next year's Eid I want Father Zakaria Botros to give an alternate view of Islam on all major network channels.
I just don't understand why you people must continually mock other cultures' values. Nothing good can ever come of that!
Come on, people - it's a brand new year. Let's at least try to move forward here and leave the ignorant attitudes behind.
When a culture wants to either enslave, convert or kill me, I will continue to mock said culture.
My attitude toward this is based on fact and knowledge, not ignorance.
izanpo- You aren't getting the picture. We aren't mocking other cultures' values. We're rejecting them. The evidence is clear, those values are offensive. Western society is waking up to the risk we face from allowing these values to gain acceptance here.
"I just don't understand why you people must continually mock other cultures' values. Nothing good can ever come of that!"
Your right.
Let's hear it for clitoris removal, flagellation, and the extermination of the Jews!
Izanpo.
"..other cultures' values?" So you believe that crucifixion is a value? And we're wrong for rejecting it?
Never has Lenin's designation "useful idiot" applied so accurately
"Mock mock."
"Who's there?"
"Izanpo."
"Izanpo who?"
...
Wow.
And so much for originality. They stole that one from the Italians. What's wrong with just burying adulteresses up to their waists and stoning them to death?
Izanpo is probably kidding.
It's a new year and I am changing my moniker to Black Mamba. Don't feel the need to point out that you don't care.
Happy New Year.
Thusly.
"Mock mock."
"Who's there?"
"Izanpo."
"Izanpo who?"
"Ispano kill the juice" preferably by crucifixion.
"Izanpo is probably kidding.?
If so, he'd better learn the art of sarcasm.
It is the duty of a free and civilized people to utterly denounce the cruel and barbaric practices of radical Islam.
To publicly reject its tenets is incumbent as an act of citizenship in the free West.
We have to do it because our politicians are spineless appeasers who may very well deliver us into the hands of our enemies.
If our politicians said what they should say as often as they should say it, there would be no need to speak so clearly on forums such as this.
There can be no tolerance, as in zero tolerance, for anything that Ahmadinejad has to say.
"In spite of his ridiculous and often offensive views, it is an important way of reminding him that there are some countries where free speech is not repressed," director Ben Summerskill said."
And the purpose of that is.....?
I'm sure Mr.Ahmadinejad couldn't care less if some other Countries have different rules, especially if those Countries are run by infidels.
As "cal" said.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1loyjm4SOa0
Seeing as no one's linked to it yet.
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Lets try a role reversal.
Death to the pedophile worshipper.
Death to islam.
Death to the muslim.
Wow I feel better.
Not that I'm a fan of Hamas by any stretch of the imagination, but this article isn't true. Not surprising from a Jewish publication when Israel is in the midst of an unofficial war.
The modifications to the penal code were proposed by three radical Hamas legislators and the bill was rejected by the Palestinian Legislative Council during the second reading.
The fact it was ever proposed is disgusting, but the vast majority of Palestinian law-makers rejected it as such.
Not that I'm a fan of Hamas by any stretch of the imagination, but this article isn't true. Not surprising from a Jewish publication when Israel is in the midst of an unofficial war.
The modifications to the penal code were proposed by three radical Hamas legislators and the bill was rejected by the Palestinian Legislative Council during the second reading.
The fact it was ever proposed is disgusting, but the vast majority of Palestinian law-makers rejected it as such.
If there is another war I wonder if history will repeat itself in the job market. Conscientious objectors nobody would hire, and C's after V's, Conscripts after Volunteers.
I remember asking my father why he had hired an x German soldier instead of Canadian at his restaurant, this was in the early 50's. His reply was pretty straight forward, he had the guts to fight for his Country and there aren’t other real men left to hire, he was referring mainly to conscientious objectors. In later years he also made the comment on several occasions that if you wonder where the others got a job it was with the government, they were the only ones that would hire “them”. The “them” also included the french after their performance in both Europe and their resistance to fight here at home.
To get a little closer to the subject, had anyone done what Channel 4 had done in the past they would have been put against a wall and shot. That is exactly my feeling towards anyone that puts our current soldiers at risk by siding with or that aids and abets our current enemy. The Hanoi Janes, channel 4's and the CBC’s included. The time for discussion is before and after not during a conflict that endangers our troops and gives hope to our enemies, against the wall channel 4.
So, the radicals proposed crucifixion and the moderates rejected it?
That makes me feel better, given the massive spread in degrees between the two. And that the Quran (5:33) they share commands them to do it.
I have searched for a source on this and come up with nothing. I think another source is vitally important. Can anyone provide a link?
This could easily be disinformation, either from Israel or Fatah.
If it's disinformation, my vote is for Fatah - the organization that has made a business out of the endless "peace process".
Crucifixion for hamas officials and their enablers sounds about right. I was very disappointed to find out that Israel is forewarning the hamas thugs before blowing their homes to hell. This is silly.
apparently the source, noted by the Jerusalem post, is the London-based Arab daily Al Hayat.
from JPost Dec 24
The Hamas parliament in the Gaza Strip voted in favor of a law allowing courts to mete out sentences in the spirit of Islam, the London-based Arab daily Al Hayat reported Wednesday.
Hamas leader Ismael Haniyeh attends the first session of Hamas-dominated Palestinian parliament.
According to the bill, approved in its second reading and awaiting a third reading before the approval of Palestinian Authority President Mahmoud Abbas, as the Palestinian constitution demands, courts will be able to condemn offenders to a plethora of violent punitive measures in line with Sharia Law.
Such punishments include whipping, severing hands, crucifixion and hanging. The bill reserves death sentences to people who negotiate with a foreign government "against Palestinian interests" and engage in any activity that can "hurt Palestinian morale."
According to the report, any Palestinian caught drinking or selling wine would suffer 40 lashes at the whipping post if the bill passes. Thieves caught red-handed would lose their right hand.
The Jerusalem Post could not verify the veracity of the Al Hayat report.
English source for denial of Shari'a penal code:
http://www.palestinianbasiclaw.org/news/hamas-new-penal-codes-not-ratified
Also I've translated a few arabic news articles which reaffirm the above. Here's one:
http://www.alarabiya.net/articles/2008/12/24/62699.html
In fact, I can't seem to find ANY reference to crucifixion. The only possible appearance is a word that doesn't seem to translate properly and comes up as "steel".
Under Iran's Islamic law, "Sodomy is a crime, for which both partners are punished. The punishment is death if the participants are adults. A non-adult who engages in consensual sodomy is subject to a punishment of 74 lashes." The "rubbing of the thighes or buttocks and the like committed by two men is punished by 100 lashes." The punishment for Lesbianism is 100 lashes; fourth time around, it's the death penalty.
Ben Summerskill, who is quoted in Kate's BBC link, is gay as a three-dollar bill. He is the Chief Executive of Stonewall, a gay rights organization. In a piece in the Independent -- "Nice to have pride, shame about the bias that lingers" --he rails against the sacking of a gay press officer in the Anglican church; he writes about the "terror" the Church imparts; he goes after the BBC for refusing to censure a DJ who once used the word gay as an insult; he lauds a campaign by homosexuals which caused British Airways to fire their female director because of her views on homosexuality.
But here's his take on Ahmadinejad giving the Christmas day speech on Channel 4 in the UK: "In spite of (Ahmadinejad's) ridiculous and often offensive views, (having him give the Christmas day speech on Channel 4) is an important way of reminding him that there are some countries where free speech is not repressed."
Um, wouldn't it more effectively remind Ahmadinejad that "there are some countries where free speech is not repressed" if people like Summerskill, who is a Commissioner on Britain's Commission for Equality and Human Rights, didn't run around trying to get people censured and fired for holding views Summerskill disagrees with?
Using Summerskill's logic on the matter of Ahmadinejad we could just as well say "Having the Grand Duke of the KKK light the menorah is an important way of reminding him that in some homes, Jews are accepted," or "Having sex with Clifford Olsen is an important way of reminding him that, in some bedrooms, sex is consensual, between adults, and does not end in death." But even Summerskill, a former Labour Party councilor, wouldn't agree with those statements, because neither invokes the statist/left's fetishization of the...exotic peoples of the world, with all the excuse-making that entails.
Britain is circling down the loo, going full-speed ahead towards cultural suicide. God's mercy on their doomed arses.
"When you're chewing on life's gristle,
don't grumble, give a whistle
This will help things turn out for the best..."
I think I'm going to go hit David Thompson's PayPal button...
Or, in both a historical and moral context:
"As the leader of one of the most powerful states in Europe, Chancellor Hitler's views are enormously influential. As we approach a critical time in international relations, we are offering our readers an insight into an alternative world view."
Izanpo: "Let's at least try to move forward here and leave the ignorant attitudes behind."
Who are you accusing of "ignorant attitudes"? 'Seems to me that President Ahmadinejad's views are not only "enormously influential" their ignorance far surpasses anything we might have to say.
Why not suggest that Ahmadinejad "move forward" and leave HIS ignorant attitudes behind?
Wake up!
Seriously, I think Imadinnerjacket should be permitted to speak as much as and often as he wants.
Lunatics and fanatics always reveal themselves by their words. The Western is not (yet) so weak and stupid that it cannot see his message in the context of what is going on in his country and with his religion.
I think it is hypocritical to say that Dinnerjacket should not talk, while we fight for Ezra Levant to talk.
The best, of course, would be to put Levant and Dinnerjacket in the same room for a debate, and then watch the fireworks.
JW - that's an interesting assertion you have made, saying "this article isn't true". Don't be shy: What you mean is, the author, Caroline Glick, is lying. Your rationale? Hamas said it's not true.
Let's get some further context, shall we? http://www.imra.org.il/story.php3?id=41953
Oh, and the appropriate sura...
“Sura 5:33 Those who wage war against God and His Messenger and strive to spread corruption in the land should be punished by death, crucifixion, the amputation of an alternate hand and foot or banishment from the land: a disgrace for them in this world, and then a terrible punishment in the Hereafter.”
What president Ahmadinajad said
gradually people in world at pay attention to human right by some kind of revolation and changes as public interest and public asking look for thos changes and ask for thier answer
the answer to public must be stay based on facts and documents and evidencs anc clear and direction for this changes need is importand and so as aim and intention for those proper change and correct political scietifically based on facts need it
basically he said people asked for change
asked for leadership and correct direction and direction must be based on correct facts to take that goal and stick to do that changes happend
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west critizie Ahmadinajad saying he has finacinal problmes and that is reason he talk more humbelr and one jewish said that is only deception for deny holycost and argument of jewish deny christ as fact proof jesus was prophet of god and so if jewish are denial they we can used their Hilter's time for them to go in Isreal and do repeat abuse other nations
jewish in Iran saying since iranina revloation they can freely and more jewish relgion orthdox are live in iran do their job and travel to turkey and isreal and usa freely yearly and live in peace and has member in parlement of IRan as Jewish got respected to do their reglion ceremoney but not participate in Sahonism and Isreal activtiy or spy for them in Iran or jewish iranina owned hospital in iran but when patine came jewish iraina are not ask theier relgion background from pateint they only ask what need to see the docotores there
jewish in isreali belive all is only deception to get powre and botehr later
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Ahmadinajad also under critize of nuclear weapne as he and Iranina belive their facily are safe and Isreal also has nucleear facity and may treat and did treat palstine used their weapon of mess destruction and army weapon to bother Paltine and now Ahamdinajad treid to start more for peace talk wiht England and American in nuclear facilty as area in middle east get more safer and some trade barrer got open
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there is Iran saying deny and divided over prophet and deny over facts may be issued by study of human right and find solution is international issue in the region and find solution do not stop them to let America to attack middle east in excuse they are Muslim and american are jewish to put bomp to paletinan too
Iranina also saying Jewih in Isreal sahonim are not follow law of international and do not give land of palstine and as they do not follow law there it increase all bad and good palstinan get more in oppoistion with Isreal while if isreal pay their land back then we can left isreal to fight only bad guys in Palstine not put bomb in civilan to chase bad guys is not accetpbale to contineu war over 40 years and not stop it
therefore public in all world are look for solution form govermenet
this need good intention and good aim and good corect leadership in region by join jewish chrisitan and muslim issue for weapn to kill each other in region while prophet are not come to order this law to people
Iranina presidnet soon by next year may chang to new president as well as new year has new elction in Iran and Ahmadingad are try to open some diolage with west to find solution for that blod shet so far by having all laws in musli countries Iran gov are also under critic of gaeys and other slash for jail while thos law is also seen in saudi arbi worst then Iran stil saudi has better relatioship with USA becasue of Hamas are more supported by Iran to fight palstin to get their land back to them and do not use holosct reason to kill any more palstin civilan and delay to put their land back as isreal today are not follow law and except all paletin to follow law or criminal court to stop any terror activietis
jewish iranina also like to help to this matter give them example iran are not fight jewish iran is fight sahonsm not give back land of palstinin
still negotition are England and USA now
that was my understanding of that video
Dorothy Byrne:
Lets nominate her for the Dhimmi Burka appeasing infidel of the year award.
Little does she know, her heads already lost.
According to my Persian friends Imadinnerjacket and his controlling thugs are about as popular as a skunk on a dance floor in Iran. After listening to the dufus I can well understand why. Especially when you consider many Persians resent Islam since it is considered an "Arabic" import (imposition) that should be sent back.
Hamas has got their story line all wrong.
First its the death of the Holy Innocents, Mary & Joseph beat feet down to Egypt, then in about 33 years its crucifixion.
Besides baby's are too small to crucify.
In Canada, that might be unconstitutional as crucifixion might be considered 'cruel and unusual punishment'.
This sounds very much like the Romans, Monty Python crew should be having a field day with this type of news.
Hailing John Cleese, Hailing John Cleese, can you do a quick "Send Up Reprise?"
Cheers
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Frankenstein Battalion
2nd Squadron: Ulanen-(Lancers) Regiment Großherzog Friedrich von Baden(Rheinisches) Nr.7(Saarbrucken)
Knecht Rupprecht Division
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I really don't think that Iran is a powerful nation. Treat is so, and it may become ingrained in people's imagination that it is so.
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British “journalists” turn positively bombastic, as in “President Ahmadinejad's views are enormously influential”, when they know they are full of hot air.
Ahmadinejad is about as influential as last year’s snow.
As it is they have to justify their positions if not with gravitas, then use of extreme language.
Even the Persians are wandering at times, if Ahmadinejad has got it all together.
Even our side doesn't know that Hamas is Islamic. They are so multiculturalist they don't even know the West has a side.
Please see my video of the NYC Hamas demonstration. See our side not want to mention Islam.
http://culturismnews.blogspot.com/
Thanks, Culturist John
Enough is Enough
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Who will win the War of the Youtube Links?
And who will come second?
Who will win the War of the Youtube Links?
And who will come second?
Posted by: nv53 at January 2, 2009 12:01 AM
new,becasue he has abolutley NOTHING original to say.
again you are out of topic
all refernce youtube is related to topic of hamas
and jewish and palestinan
except your hate comments!!!!
taht is second exampe i treid to say you in other comments
We Muslim are speechless of your hate action
Nothing left to talk
just watch you get it
I am not talking to you who only just not thinking before talk or write