It's the 2008 Global Warming Top Ten List!
"In Somalia back in 1993, climate change, according to 11 three- and four-star generals, resulted in a drought which led to famine,” Rep. Edward Markey told a group of students who had come to the Capitol to discuss global warming, according to CNSNews.com. "That famine translated to international aid we sent in to Somalia, which then led to the U.S. having to send in forces to separate all the groups that were fighting over the aid, which led to Black Hawk Down."
(BTW - this is an excellent item to have handy when the Cultists Of Gore resort to holocaust terminology in response to those who mention the "face blistering cold".)
This web site: warmlist@numberwatch.co.uk keeps tabs on all the things that have been blamed on global warming. Some are hilarious, such as those that are complete opposites.
So, let's see if I have this right- global warming caused a helicopter in Somalia to be shot down?
drought in Africa : what's next? Hurricanes in the carribean? Snowstorms in Canada?
Lawsuits must be filed against the likes of Gore and Suzuki and all the other MSM purveyors of despair and LIES, and that is all this hoax is. This bull...t should be called Global Madoffing. Since the structure of this scam is much the same, the first idiots [agenda scientists] do a false study, the second idiots,[MSM] trumpet the end, like y2k, ice age etc, and now climate change etc, and then the experts, like Madoff, Gore, Suzuki, Hansen, get all the cash. If you must be a useful idiot and send cash to some phoney ecowhaco outfit, please send it to the Salvation Army instead, at least they, will help someone else, and not themselves, like these charlatans saving the "earth".
Did that article really quote 3 and 4 star generals as authorities on climate change?
Wow...just wow.
Our own pied piper of Global Warming; Dr. Suzuki, has a new ad out where he shows a neighborhood of good Canadians screwing in their Suzuki bulbs (you know, the twirly ones with toxic mercury in them to save the environment) This leads to the planet being saved by a suburban Toronto neighborhood.
Well, yours truly is already ahead of the game when I got a free one in the mail one day. The Mrs. and I installed it on our porch light. Alls good right? Wrong! Over the last three weeks, temperatures here in the 'bridge have dipped below -35 with -45 windchills. The Suzuki bulb doesn't work below -20. Therefore, you need global warming for the Suzuki bulb to work outside!
Any ways, Happy New Year to All!!
Chris in the Bridge, weather like that kinda makes the case against the electric car.........
The BBC says the leap second to be added to official time tonight is the result of the slowing of earth's rotation caused by tides and global warming.
"Frozen penguin babies"
I guess I'm just too tired to comment anymore
Global Warming causes a shortage of Rubber Duckies.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/2008/dec/22/nasa-arctic-icecap-climate-change
speaking of Suzuki , Im more creeped out that those parents let him up in the treehouse at night with a bunch of six year olds. and he wants them to call him David.
just weird.
Or Suzuki promoting alcoholism with his other ad having a guy running around his house unplugging evertyhing so he can buy more beer.
As for pythons taking over America, not when Samuel L. Jackson is on duty "I have had it with these....snakes"
"Frozen penguin babies", or cute little furry polar bear cubbies. Jeez louise, I'm getting all weepy now, over all this.
Reminds of a T-shirt I saw years ago, that said,"If you can't dazzle them with brilliance, baffle'em with BS."
And that about entails the AGW Warmongers strategy and philosophy. When all that fails, haul out the cute little cuddly thingies.
Environmental bulbs are dim bulbs.
Um, Kate? You've established that I'm thick and all, but I can't quite understand why you've linked me to those who "resort to holocaust imagery" etc. Perhaps you might enlighten me.
For one, my piece starts by talking about the time I publicly criticized Elizabeth May for engaging in unscientific hype and I made it plenty clear I have no use for Suzuki-esque hyperbole. That's not the usual behaviour of a Cultist of Gore. In fact, if you Google my name and Suzuki's, and you'll see that I've criticized the man repeatedly in my columns (and book) and been hammered on leftist blogs for it. I've even been called a stooge of the chemical industry. Again, not many Cultists of Gore can say that.
For another, I made no use of Holocaust imagery. That would be disgusting.
And lastly, I've accepted that I got what you wrong -- that your use of weather in making a point about climate change is actually clever satire of a particular sort of claim which you and I both agree is unscientific.
You see? On this point, WE AGREE! Isn't that nice?
Now that the cute little pengies are dying,when is the "Save the sea lion" campaign going to start? Or do we just feed them all the dead pengie/polar bear carcasses?
And hasn't the earth's rotation been slowing down since,oh,about 2 billion years ago???
My what I would not give for a wee bit of global warming in the Fraser Valley right now, getting rather tired of having to shovel my way to the barn and wade through knee deep snow.
I try to find this funny, but all I can do is find it sad and alarming that this absolute bullshit actually is reported on and is used to further poison the minds of millions of people who haven't been educated enough to know the MSM is not going to tell you the truth, or even shades of it, they'll only fear monger as a shallow and transparent attempt to stay afloat as their revenue continues to dwindle.
Thank God for the internet, and sites like this.
Isn't that nice?
Posted by: Dan Gardner at December 31, 2008 1:41 PM
My how condensending you are when you try to apologize. Tool.
Gord.
It's the 2009 Global Warming Top Ten List!*
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"An Inconvenient Truth
Premiering On: Thursday January 1, 2009 at 8 pm on CBC-TV
Repeating: Sunday January 4, 2009 at 10 pm ET/PT on CBC Newsworld
"Humanity is sitting on a ticking time bomb."
(cbc)
(*H/T)
Dan, the point is: For years now the friggin media have been pushing outright lies and fear mongering over AGW. (for which they may someday be held liable)
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Computer Climate Models Are The Heart Of The Problem Of Global Warming Predictions.
By Dr. Timothy Ball
Abstract
Entire global energy and climate policies are based on the Reports of the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC).
Their conclusions are based on climate models that don’t and cannot work.
This article explains how the situation developed and why the models are failures.
Introduction
What do the IPCC reports actually say about global warming? What is the basis for their position? All predictions of global warming are
based on computer climate models. The major models in question are the ones used by the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) to produce their Reports. The most recent, the Fourth Assessment Report (AR4) uses and averages output from 18 computer models. These Reports are the source for policy on climate change used by world governments. The Reports are released in two
parts. The first release and the one used for policy by governments was the Summary for Policymakers (SPM) released in April 2007.
The Technical Report (“The Physical Science Basis”) produced by Working Group I was released in November 2007. It is essential to read because it contains more, but not all, of the severe limitations in climate research including the data, the mechanisms and the computer models.
And hasn't the earth's rotation been slowing down since,oh,about 2 billion years ago???
Posted by: Justthinkin at December 31, 2008 1:48 PM
The rotation actually fluctuates. Theoretically, global warming could be a factor. If huge blocks of shelf ice were to melt, the movement of mass from one area to another could create a wobble.
The wobble we're seeing this time is more likely from the incredible volume of mountain snow pack we've seen for the last couple of years. Pretty well the opposite of the claim it's caused by global warming.
A perfect example of 'none so blind as those that will not see'. (And how some journalists use spin)
Liz 'seriously' claims warm Wx proves AGW.
Kate mocks - then so can cold WX disprove it.
Goes clean over media hacks head. (Try to keep up)
Or is it just another case of Journalistic fudging ? Playing dumb ? Knowing one has been outed - obfuscate ? Smear ? Too much Cool-Aide ? MSM the sole source of information ? Indoctrination ? All of the above ?
Sounds like an Editorial page, doesn't it ?
With respect to Dan, the majority of the media has done a piss-poor job of investigating AGW.
The ramifications are far beyond Suzuki, Lizzie May and trivial weather battles. The big stories are politicized science, IPCC/UN manipulation, data irregularities and the massive profit-making potential for an elite few. The MSM is oblivious to the lack of observable proof and missed predictions from AGW scientists. Journalists avoid discussing the illogical basis of using flawed computer models, forecasting possible future events, to determine today's political/environmental/economic policy. They seem unconcerned that these "crystal ball"-based policies are guaranteed to produce a negative impact on Canadian businesses and Canadian families.
Thanks dp.I know the wobble fluctuates,but is that directly related to slowing the rotation???(physics and me don't get along..heh)
This won't be seen, as I have reservations he will not allow my post at his site. Which is his buisness. This is what I thought of his obvious fast read of Sda.
As usual you unhinged tofu-chomping losers don't get sarcasm. Posted at SDA myself on this. It was pure mockery laced with cynicism on my part to use there methodology. We on the right know weather is an intermittent phenomena that is affected by uncountable variables. Its in distain we use there methods to show how humorless & stupid they are. If not ants thinking a storm is a world flood. You do Kate McMillan with her readers a disservice, by insinuating we use the moronic practices of the Socialist collective. Kate has the instincts of an old fashioned Teacher. You miss what she is really saying, like me at times, you become the dunce. She likes to set traps for the lazy.
JMO
Sarc is the default.
Nothing, but nothing, undercuts a flake better than sarcasm and mockery.
(Best to date: MC serial #)
Rev: Unlike some, I allow any comment that isn't criminal, insane, or criminally insane. Yours met my exacting standards.
And, Rev, you're wrong about what "we on the right" know. Yes, Kate gets it. Put if you scroll up from the post that Kate linked to you'll find another where I provide example after example of right-wing commentators citing unusually cold weather as evidence that AGM is false.
And no, there's not a lot of evidence those folks are being sarcastic. One of them even takes a pre-emptive shot at those who say weather and climate aren't the same.
So there are lefty enviros who point to the weather to make their point about climate and there are righty critics who do the same. And they're both wrong.
It's easy to see the bias and error in your opponents. Self-examination is a little more demanding.
AGW is becoming unhinged.
So now its morphed into Climate change.
Different "Coolaid", same great taste for the scammed.
Gore and Madoff have one thing going for them. The believers won't call BS until they are ruined, taking a swath of the population with them.
"climate change" is the diversion to keep "cap and trade" snake oil scams going. It always was about the money, never the planet.
IF this entire scam totally unravels the only cannibalism of note will be the Greenies eating their own. Then purging. Repeat as necessary.
So we lose a second. I won't lose any sleep over it.
ron in kelowna....what about Ogoopogo??
And Dan.I Have shovelled enough global warming so far this winter to last me a summer.Get it? Sarcasm. If the eco-cultists can call a +40C day in the middle of July AGW,I can call 6" of white stuff in 3 hours global cooling. Funny how that works.Problem is,I realize weather varies.Always has,always will.The Goracles don't realize,or fail to acknowledge that little fact in their push for socialism.And make no mistake,AGW is socialist/commie based.They had to do something after the collapse of the USSR!!
Dan Gardner;
Thanks for the compliments. Did'nt mean to upset you.
Happy trails
And here I thought that Somalian social and economic collapse in the early 90s was caused by that "civil war" thing they were having.
I'd think that generals would be sensible enough about the normal effects of civil wars to have grasped that one.
Though to be fair, not only is the only source CNS News - who I trust as far as I can throw it - but the only source in that for "generals blamed global warming" was an idiot Congressman's speech to some high schoolers.
I'm more inclined to think he just bungled something in his speech.
(Such as perhaps a military report of possible effects of climate change, said that it might have had some effect in Somalia? And that the "11 generals" were those who had anything to do with the report?
I don't mean that I know of such a report, just that that's a plausible way for a real thing involving "11 generals" to get more-or-less innocently bungled into "generals say global warmenings caused famine in Somalia", despite the generals not actually having said that.)
Regarding the -- money vs. planet theme --
Church of England puts its faith in Al Gore's investment arm.
"The Church of England’s Church Commissioners have gone green, investing £150 million with former US Vice-President Al Gore’s environmentally minded investment firm, Generation Investment Management."
http://www.religiousintelligence.co.uk/news/?NewsID=3568 (courtesy Drudge)
Sarcasm Alert for Dan
Wow, empty, fence sitting, pox on both their houses, moral superior posturing passing itself off as informed news reporting from a dead tree angry planet scribbler.
I'm shocked I tell you, shocked.
Dan won't allow my above comment on his one way preachy newspaper site but comes on here rapidly down shifting to "No no no you misread, what I meant was "Your commenters" Ghia forbid not "you".
*Note to Dan; dramatic irony
(theater) irony that occurs when the meaning of the situation is understood by the audience but not by the characters in the play
wordnet.princeton.edu/perl/webwn.
Since i was actually in Somalia, drinking 16 litres of water a day, i can assure you it was murderous, doped up Somali gunmen who brought those helicopters down.
Honest.
Droughts in Africa, who knew?
To refresh your memory, Dan -
"climate change deniers on right-wing blogs like Small Dead Animals"
The word "denier" in this context appropriates the vocabulary of the Holocaust. Surely, you can't claim not to have known this - it's been protested as inappropriate ever since the usage began.
Secondly, "denier" declares that those who disagree don't simply hold contrary opinions on a science that's adjusted with every snowflake (and every independent audit of the data). "Denier" rests upon the premise that there is an established Truth, that dissenters know this Truth and their refuse to acknowledge it borders on the criminal.
Those who use the term "denier" in the context of the climate change debate tip their hands - it indicates that they're unable to present evidence to support their position. Instead, they resort to delegitimizing their opponent, belittling and vulgarizing the Holocaust in the attempt.
justthinking..i would think that a wobble would slow the rotation of a spherical object, as some of the energy used in maintaining rotation would be diverted to essentially a change in direction.
If the axis of the sphere is disrupted, given the size and weight of the sphere, eventually there will have to be seen a slowing effect over time, in this case, millions of years..
So let's get this sorted out.
MSMer takes a swipe at Blogger.
Blogger sticks a figurative pointy object up said MSMer's nose.
MSMer "corrects" and "clarifies" his position by denigrating the readers of said blogger.
Blog readers point out that they're not the ignorant Bozos the MSMer made them out to be.
MSMer goes to Blogger zone to further defend himself.... largely by suggesting that all the blog world should be researching his work before calling him out on this ONE particular matter.
Looks like a "Not Waiting for the Asteroid!" sort of moment to me.
Happy new year!
why do we need dirty(Bush-Cheney-Harpoon) coal plants to power our cities when we have stingrays? what about electric eels? the natural repulsion of libs&cons?
Kursk
the heat at the core of the earth is generated through friction, this energy transition is radiated, thusly it will "rob" the rotational energy (inertia) causing a rotational slow down. Because of the mass of the earth this slow down is measured in sec/Mil-yrs
Dan is doing rather poorly, both here and on his own blog. Of course we "deniers" are such bullies. Lighten up Dan. Take a polar bear to lunch while we still have solid north pole instead of a slurpee.
Recipes » Fried Python ( http://tinyurl.com/8sor63 )
serve 4 persons
Take
600 gr Python fillet or 800 gr Python bone in
1 cup sherry
1/2 tsp black pepper
1/2 tsp season-all
1/4 cup lemon juice
1/2 cup Italian salad dressing
some flour
Marinate pieces of snake in the mixture of sherry, pepper, lemon juice and Italian dressing for about 2 hours. Drain and turn pieces into flour. Fry pieces for about 12 minutes and turn often untill brown. Serve hot.
Has anyone tried this yet?
Ural:
Yeah, I tried it. But when I sliced open the python, there was a guy inside. He was still alive. Apparently the the python ate him because he was a "denier."
I call myself a climate change denier proudly.
and Al Gore and Dr. Mengele Suzuki side are the climate change derrieres.
I see flipping through the channels that CBCpravda is about to start the new year by showing "An inconvenient Truth" they should be required to put a warning on it like an infomercial.
Someone asked about Ogopogo ?
Been on the lake (boat & float plane) many days - no sign of him/her.
The amazing part is - some still believe it possible.
As in AGW, some just WANT, no, HAVE to believe.
AIT still being shown on CBC !?? You got to be kidding !!??
HAPPY NEW YEAR !! to all on sda. Been a great year.
Kate,
Thanks for the clarification. But no, there was no malicious intent -- and certainly no desire to link this in any way, shape or form to the Holocaust -- in my usage. One who denies another's assertion is a "denier." That's ordinary English and it's the only sense in which I meant the word.
As to your second point about the implication of "denier," I think you're seeing something that simply isn't there. I deny assertions made by others all the time. If someone says I am a (blank) denier, that's fine. It means someone claims X is true and Gardner denies that is so. So what?
Incidentally, I find it a little odd that someone famous, or infamous, for faking a Holocaust survivor's tatoo would be so keenly sensitive to the inappropriate use of Holocaust imagery.
And to the merry band of commentators here, I want you to know this is all deja vu for me.
Just last month I was condemned on a website and read with amusement as a long line of commentators shouted "burn the witch!" The website was The Tyee. The commentators condemned me as a typical MSM right-wing hack. And like you, their posts were filled with standard ideological talking points that divided the world neatly into hostile camps of rational, empirical, smart and good-looking sensible people (them) and irrational, ignorant, deluded, lying, ugly villains (everyone who does not share each and every one of their views).
You are, in short, blinkered ideologues -- the mirror image of the "leftards" you so despise.
Kate - you dun made nother victim. Dan is very, very smart!!! His can make hisself own meanins for words!!!!
Ural (and Kate), I thought it might be helpful for you to consider the definition of "denier" on p. 374 of the Canadian Oxford Dictionary:
"A person who denies something."
Kate. How dare you make poor,edumacted Dan feel bad on New Year's Eve! Especially as ural noted he is busy making up new leftard meanings for words.He isn't a "denier",he is just a useless idiot.Not even useful. He reminds me of the type who needs a baseball bat upside the head to make a change in their thinking.Do deny that the Goracle and his cultists do not use the word "denier" in the worse possible terms is,well,justifiably deniable to the eco-freaks,and those who can't think on their own.
Rutgers grad,are you,Dan???