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Maybe this could be amended to ” Never come between a socialist and their perceived entitlement(s)”. Far more dangerous than being between Momma bear and her cub.
It was just an excuse. The opposition parties began plotting a coalition during the election when it became apparent they were going to lose. Had the NDP and Liberals combined won more seats than the Conservatives they would have approached the GG immediately after the election.
Time to seperate them out.
First step, isolate the Bloc. Keep the funding but change the formula to 1.95 x votes x (number of contested seats/308)
Cuts Bloc funding by 2/3. Serves Liberal interests and gives them a way out of looking like they are in Duceppes orbit. Weakens the Bloc in how it can fight, right now the Bloc is stronger due to the anomoly of fighting in one region.
Next steps can come later. But seperate the herd.
Harper’s screw up in getting this funding removed has set the issue back years.
It’s a tragedy that these clowns remain on welfare for another day, let alone another decade.
As Stephen points out, there are many ways this can be handled.
The bottom line is, voters hate the subsidy. And Mama Bear, in this instance, is a beggar not a beast.
Obviously as any IGGY farmer knows you call SUEY after the slop has been poured into the trough.
Just to throw some light on the other side of this issue I am willing to confess that in a previous life I spent some time as a low-level Liberal bag man before the current legislation came into being.
While I too find distasteful the funding of parties I don’t agree with using public funds, this system treats everyone the same and virtually eliminated the old “what have you done for me lately”, mutual back scratching that was not only pervasive but frankly led to some butt ugly situations.
I agree with Belisarius that this issue was a red herring although it was fun to hear them squeal.
Sometimes the devil you know……
Cheers
What other democracys fund political paties with govt funds? All dictatorships do and all communist states do.The socialist liberals next step would be to eliminate PRIVATE funding as that also could be said to favor the rich.
Try this poll. I hope the link works.
http://poll.pollcode.com/KZgk
To Tom : that you were a “low-level Liberal bag man” is something you should confess to either your priest/minister or to a Crown Prosecuter. Even the term makes one want to wash. Why is it that the moral bankruptcy of the Liebrals is always followed by the financial tapping of the electorate?
What do they need public funding for; don’t we already pay for the, CBC? I’d call that “double dipping”, yeww, gross!
hardboiled…the perfect time to present the cuts to parties was…when?
Guess PMSH blinked and missed it.
Oh..maybe you mean the perfect time is future when he gets a majority…which could have happened Oct. 14 but some conservative voters rejected him for not being consevative enough.
If you haven’t already, read Kate’s [Related] on this post.
Leo Knight sums up the Canadian political scene in one short article.
[ What is clear is that, with the notable exception of Stephen Harper, every Prime Minister in office longer than the time to have a cup of coffee in the past three decades, owes his allegiance to Power Corp. Then, add the likes of Maurice Strong (he of the UN Oil for Food scandal) and Paul Volker (former chair of he US Fed and current Barack Obama advisor) to the mix and their influence – dare I say dominance – over North American government is complete for the last 40 years.] Leo Knight
Canada is at the brink right now – remains to be seen which way it goes.
“Harper’s screw up in getting this funding removed has set the issue back years.”
I’m not despairing. I now expect this proposal to be in the Conservatives’ next election platform, where it will be supported by most Canadians. That is, if in fact it doesn’t pop up again (in modified form) in the Jan. 26 budget. After all, the opposition claimed that the elimination of the subsidy wasn’t the reason why they were going to bring the govt. down, even after that item was removed from the economic statement.
Spike 1,
How about most of Europe, most of South America, and the U.S….is that enough for you?
Or as the old Liberal Party saying goes – ‘Never get between the phone and a Liberal supporter who thinks they deserve an appointment to the Senate’, when the Liberal PMs are paying off their bagmen.
You could get trampled.
hardboiled…the perfect time to present the cuts to parties was…when? Posted by: bluetech at December 12, 2008 12:43 PM
There is no perfect ‘time’ to do what is right. One does what is right because it is right. Harper didn’t put it in with the budget, gave the three stooges leverage.
A big ball dropped. And all of these ghouls get to live on government welfare for years to come.
That, is a screw up.
I disagree with you ‘hardboiled’ on your post.
Post by: hardboiiled at December 12, 2008 11:20 AM
PMSH has opened all Canadians eyes of how much money has to be spent on the leeches of the Canadian taxpayer. I think he forwarded the issue.
Harper missed his majority because the arts groups in Quebec screamed over having less that 1% of all arts funding be reallocated to the Olympics – after all they are in B.C. not in Quebec so don’t really count. The Bloc made hay out of it and the scummy Liberals yelled just a loud. Harper nearly lost his government because the leftist political groups in Ottawa screamed over not getting our money as their God-given entitlement. Yeh, I hope Harper finally learned his lesson – don’t get between left wing begging groups and the taxpayer trough. Question – can anyone name a single left wing group that does not get government handouts? Can anyone name a single right wing group that does? – Honest question because I can’t think of any in either category.
Harper missed his majority because the arts groups in Quebec screamed over having less that 1% of all arts funding be reallocated to the Olympics – after all they are in B.C. not in Quebec so don’t really count. The Bloc made hay out of it and the scummy Liberals yelled just a loud. Harper nearly lost his government because the leftist political groups in Ottawa screamed over not getting our money as their God-given entitlement. Yeh, I hope Harper finally learned his lesson – don’t get between left wing begging groups and the taxpayer trough. Question – can anyone name a single left wing group that does not get government handouts? Can anyone name a single right wing group that does? – Honest question because I can’t think of any in either category.
That 2nd article, by Leo Knight, is an excellent summary of recent events.
Incidentally, his name sounds very familiar but I can’t quite place him.
Ron…that was worth a double post.
hardboiled…do you see your contradiction?
ron in kelowna…when we see the MSM spinning that the time is right for a new leader of the CPC you just have to wonder who is in the CPC that has the links to Power Corp that the media so desperately wants to see in PM Harper’s place.
It all started out thusly:
Jim Flarety:”We cannot ask Canadians to tighten their belts in times of financial uncertainty.”
To which the united opposition proudly responded:
“YES WE CAN”
They will never stop getting between the worker and his paycheck, or the business man and his profit.
There is one gigantic coalition of all politicians on that extortion.
The mishandling was that they gored all of the oxes at once….the funding, the right to strike, the pay equity challenge
If they had just kept to the one issue, the subsidy, then they might have got the NDP on board…..maybe.
The silk purse out of this is that the public is aware, but generally cannot be changed until there is a conservative majority. This was likely always the case.
I still would likme to see the Bloc’s funding get nailed, or any other regional party (one that doesnt run a national campaign)
Anywya, Harper has to live through this budget. I think the people have seen why a majority is useful versus what we are about to witness. Remeber the last election was all about a minority. Harper can now openly campaign for a majority.
Thanks for the links Kate. The summary of events by Leo Knight was very astute. I just wonder why they are in Colorado and what scheme they are now cooking up.
Pelalusa over at Leo Knight’s blog comments: “I wonder how many Canadians would be shocked to learn how much control of our federal gov’t the mysterious Power Corp has had.”
Maybe quite a few if Canadians knew about “the mysterious Power Corp.”
‘Problem is, there’s no reason for Power Corp to be “mysterious.” If you want to know about them, there’s tons of Internet links to their nefarious connections with all of Canada’s governments (and skulduggery at the UN) since Trudeau. AND, if the connection of Power Corp and Mo Strong wasn’t to the LPC–but, say, to the CPC–the MSM would be going ballistic and would be all over it.
As it is, the MSM know all about the connection but have chosen to say nothing. Thank G*d for Conrad Black’s National Post. That’s the only reason Canadians learned about the Desmarais family, their connections to the Liberals, and the extent to which they have been able not only to meddle with but control the policies of the Canadian Government since the late ’60s.
It’s a scandal that Canadian journalists, for the most part, are lily-livered cowards who won’t touch this story with a 100-foot pole.
Canada stopped being a free democracy a long time ago; Prime Minister Stephen Harper and his CPC are the only hope Canadians have of stopping a continuation of rule–not governance–by a Librano oligarchy.
“Harper’s screw up in getting this funding removed has set the issue back years.”
But at least now the voters know it exists.
On the topic of “Delusional”, take a look at this: http://www.rabble.ca/blogs/bloggers/sharon-fraser/stephen-harpers-march-majority
How could any REASONABLE person look at the protests and look at the polls and possibly come to the conclusion that there was grassroots support for the Coalition?!?
Robert, here’s a direct quote from that page:
“So many millions of people in 800 cities around the world were so easily swept aside by the war criminals in Washington.”
WTF? Have the radical lefties (as defined by a statement like this) gone _completely_ insane equating current US military action with what resulted in the Nuremberg Trials?
Sigh. I guess as a free society we must suffer these fools and useful idiots. Doesn’t mean we have to fund them though – doing so only encourages and reinforces their irrational behaviour and thinking (assuming there’s any actual thinking going on in those skulls).