According to CTV News….
Michael Ignatieff makes history, becoming the first American to lead the Liberal Party of Canada!
Update – Reader Mike W. writes with a reminder – “Have the Liberals forgotten how it worked last time they let one Mr. Paul Martin scare the rest of the pack out of the race?”
Probably.
Mississauga Matt is unhappy. “I should get a say as to who leads the LPC. After all, I’m part of the majority that never voted for them.”
And another one bites the dust.
Whose ear will Layton whisper into now?
The leaders of the coalition are dropping like flies. Hopefully the moonbats will ditch Layton now.
You mean the first American to lead the Coalition Party of Canada…Welcome to the show Professor Dithers.
Apparently, Ignatieff is still considering the coalition, now that spin the wheel for PM has ended.
“Leadership if necessary, but not necessarily leadership” is now the guiding power principle of the LPC.
Seems that the CTV made a mistake and came up with the truth.
Layton will stay, even with the vast amount of useful idiots the socialist have. The current one is particularly obnoxious, the quality that the socialists need in order to impress the “journalists”.
God, at this rate, Canadian politics could remain interesting for years! 8^>
If I was a strategist in the CPC war-room(s), I’d be painting Iggy as a Yank (NTTAWRT), a coalitionist (sleeps-with-separatists), and an out-of-touch academic starting RIGHT NOW, and I’d also be working on the inevitable response required to the hyping of Iggy as a potential “Canadian Obama.” There’s lessons to be learned from the O!’s campaign, particularly for those of us who don’t want to see a repeat of the election of His Total Empty-Suit Awesomeness up here in the Great White North.
Mind you, the O! was able to avoid pesky laws regarding campaign finance, whereas the Libs will have a harder time doing this, so without the complicity of Central Canada’s Lame Stream Media, perhaps we won’t be exposed to as much Iggy-idolatry as we might otherwise expect.
Ah, who am I kidding? The LSM will probably be in the tank for him starting today…
Garth
Is the comment about Mr. Ignatieff being an American a wry joke or does he really hold American citizenship? I scrounged through his biography and didn’t find any mention of a claim to American citizenship. Wouldn’t that be as controversial as Mr. Dion’s French citizenship?
Your anti-americanism is astonishing. By the same logic, I lived for 6 years in Vancouver (more time than Iggy lived in the US). Does that make me a westerner?
With a real leader in charge of the Liberals now, I dearly hope that we can all start focusing on policies instead of this kind of irrelevant spin and feable attempts at “framing”. I think that is beyond a conservative’s capabilities though, certainly Harper.
Puffins hide their poop. Where will the foreign leader of the Coalition of Saviors of Canada hide Rae and Dion, in a cabinet or a cupboard?
Needing to intellectualize every thought that passes through his turgid brain, Iggy is going to make Mr. Dithers look like the Great Communicator.
Is that a smirk on Harper’s face?
Had the deadline to enter the leadership raced passed?
Wow, don’t post after a night shift.
That should read: Has the deadline for entering the leadership race pass?
I should get a say as to who leads the LPC. After all, I’m part of the majority that never voted for them.
Ted…..”real leaders” don’t lead from the back….like Iggy. He is an empty suit.
And as for Layton, if anyone needs to be removed, it is that slimy egotist. He has been hiding a bit lately…popping up from his spider hole from time to time to give the MSM a sound bite and then he disappears again.
It will be interesting to see how much of the Liberal support now bleeds to the NDP given that Rae has been shown the door.
Just so, SomeGuyinOttawa.
Michael Ignatieff is now the Leader of the Bloc Coalition.
There really is no Liberal Party of Canada.
Anybody who donates money to the Bloc Coalition shouldn’t be able to write the donation off as a legitimate Party tax writeoff.
The fix is in with msm.Dan Matheson told Bobby Fife,’there is no doubt that Iggy is an outstanding candidate’
John Luft- right on with the layton comments, and let’s not forget the big enablers Cretch and Broadbent.
BTW CTV commentator already saying Iggy will probably quit the coalition.
Actually, ted, anti-Americanism has been a major ‘policy’ of the Liberal Party for over a generation. Trudeau, Chretien and Martin used it on a daily basis.
As for policies, my argument is that the Liberal Party, again for over a generation, ignored such trifling requirements; it became A Ruling Party, which requires only Power, rather than a Political Party which requires policies.
My question is whether the Liberal Party can move out of this focus on Power as its infrastructural base and actually develop any policies. So far, this hasn’t been the case.
Remember, Ignatieff signed that coalition, which has to be the most outrageous attack on our democracy in our history. He signed it; he made a choice; he didn’t speak up against it.
And I strongly suspect that Ignatieff is going to be set up, by his propaganda arm, as the Obama of the North. The same elitism, the same empty rhetoric about ‘change’, and the same focus on special interest groups. Can Ignatieff resist this and work on actual realistic policies or will he, as he did with the coalition, go along for the vapid rhetorical propaganda ride?
Kate, you forgot C.D. Howe ;o)
Mrs. Sauga Matt: works for me! Let’s write in Robert Winters’s corpse….or even worse, reinflate Hellyer.
This really is fun to watch.
>”Iggy will probably quit the coalition.”
It matters not.
Dion said he wouldn’t consider a coalition and here there is now a coalition.
People who have been supporters of the LPC and NDP in the past should be told that a vote for the LPC or the NDP is a vote for the coalition.
Five Liberal leaders in five years. What an absolute joke the LPC has become.
video of ignatieff and rae showdown here: http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=4sNWcSpRFz8
Ladies and Gentlemen I give you the Leader of the Liberal party… In his own words.
“To defeat evil, we may have to traffic in evils : indefinite detention of suspects, coercive interrogations, targeted assassinations, even pre-emptive war.”
http://www.vigile.net/Lesser-Evils
Lesser Evils
Michael Ignatieff
New York Times Magazine
dimanche 2 mai 2004
Here I am thinking that most of the Liberal party doesn’t have a clue about this devil they don’t know.
Mr Yankee Doodle Dandy has spent his adult life as a foreigner to this country. PM Harper needs to pummel that liberal egghead supremacist and kick his sorry ass back across the border.
Ted, stop being obtuse. Ignatieff refers to himself as American in a NYT’s article updating his support of the Iraq war a couple of years ago.
Oh, and to all you Liberal supporters out there, since the backroom brokers have selected your new Liberal Leader for you, sans constitution, who do you think they will select for you next time?
Bwahahahaha.
Lovin’ it.
This is not good news for the Liberals. The coalition and coronation will be the final blow to the party.
The coalition deal destroyed their voters trust. The polls shows Canadians are disgusted with the coalition without election idea Forget about gaining support they will be lucky to hold on to what they had. It is impossible for the LPC expect the previous voters to disregard their willingness to sign on with socialists and separatists. After all, during the election, Dion said he would never do it. They also cannot entirely blame Dion since Iggy and all the other MPs signed the paper and pledged support. The election ads will write themselves.
Now because of the Iggy coronation, the left side of the LPC is more likely to support the NDP. So the Liberals strongholds in the big cities are in jeopardy. The process is also a slap in the face to LPC members, making it that much more difficult to raise funds and keep a stable voter base.
In Que., the coalition gave the Bloc legitimacy and a strong argument that they can again be effective extortionists and bring home lots of goodies. The Bloc will increase support not just from separatists but average Quebecers wanting more freebies from the ROC. The LPC will lose as much as the CPC, maybe even more if Liberals selling themselves to the Bloc disgust federalists.
So where does this leave the LPC…in more financial difficulty, losing to the CPC in the middle class suburbs because of the coalition coup attempt, losing to NDP in cities because of the Iggnation ceremony and losing the Bloc in Que. Where are they planning to pick up support?
I think everyone should start collecting Iggy-videos … Soon enough we will be in an election and they will be (very) useful for portraying him in the correct light on youtube
Who stomped on the bush doll? Who said I hate those bastards? Who called bush an idiot?
Don’t preach to us about being anti American!
RE five leaders in five years. Lets look for some root causes as to the Libs descent that began in 2003. How about bill C-24. Looks like having to raise funds from your supporters has proved difficult, and 1.95 per vote doesn’t come close to covering the operating expenses of sustainting the framework designed to keeping the NGP in Power. My guess would be that requirement would be more like $195.00 per voter in the Libs case.
Tsar Michael Ignatieff:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v714/stevekog/MichaelIgnatieff.jpg
“Where are they planning to pick up support?”
Intravenous drug users, gun control freaks, ad agencies, golf resort owners…
Just trying to list the benefactors of Liberal policy in the last 10 years.
Liberals,so inept – five leaders in five years. Sounds like a mantra to me.
Iggy has spent the vast majority of his life not living in Canada. He doesn’t understand the country. His view of the country is Toronto-centric and overly influenced by his liberal education and time working for the BBC.
A new Liberal King is crowned when what the Party needs is two years of time-out and a good top to bottom shake up to get their policies and platform sorted out.
King Iggy will just put more lipstick on the already heavily made up Liberal pig. More paint powder & perfume isn’t going to help them. The Party needs surgery not cosmetics.
The liberal party, and especially the grassroots of that party, need a lesson in democracy. Why should the Liberal Party care about the grassroots? In fact, if I were Mr. Big Wig Liberal I’d wonder if maybe the Liberal party should ditch the idea of purchased memberships and voting rights altogether. And here’s why:
No representation without taxation.
The Liberal party gets the majority of its money from public subsidy and the grassroots have shown very little interest in donating money beyond a nominal membership fee. If the grassroots won’t donate to fund the party why should they get a vote in how the party is run? At least the Big Guys work for the party. In the long run I think removing the subsidy would be good for Liberal grassroots guys because the party, for once, would have to listen. Assuming they began to donate to the cause.
Overheard in Ottawa this morning (amid faint sounds of someone whistling Hail to the Chief): “…..I know I had some black shoe polish around here somewhere…” (then faint sounds of someone whistling Hail to the Chief again) “…..almost forgot – I need to find out if they’ve already had Christmas too…..” (followed by faint sounds of someone whistling Hail to the Chief again)
“If the grassroots won’t donate to fund the party why should they get a vote in how the party is run?…… In the long run I think removing the subsidy would be good for Liberal grassroots guys because the party, for once, would have to listen. Assuming they began to donate to the cause.”
~The Rat
The grassroots of the LPC don’t even get to select the candidate for their riding. The “Big Guys” can override their selection, and do, any time their want.
Personally I wouldn’t donate to such a party either.
So what if Iggy has spent 30 years in the US?
The interesting choice for the future course of the Liberal Party is … will it continue to bash America now that they have a leader who spend a good part of his life there?
There’s no need for Harper to mention anything about this fact, since the US is Canada’s largest market.
Let the MSM take care of this issue, they’ll turn their knives on Iggy soon enough.
How many times does King Iggy imply that he’s an American?
“There is only one thing we can do about this: live the way we are supposed to live, as our Constitution commands us to, with dignity and respect for all. Being an American is not easy. It is hard. We are required to keep some serious promises. We are judged by a high standard, one We crafted for ourselves in the founding documents of the republic, the ones that talk about the equality of all people, the ones that tell us that government is of the people, by the people and for the people. We need to live by this, at home and abroad, and it is just about the only thing we can do to face the hatred of those who want to destroy us. Our best defense is to stay true to who we are. Our best defense is to refuse to live in fear, of them, of ourselves, of anyone.”
Is bob exploring his chances at the Brotherhood of the far Left taking him back into their folds, Now that his chance of Leader & pm have faded within the Liberal ranks.
Would Not Surprise Me At All
Ted,
Your body may have been in the west but your spirit is of Toronto.
Manley, McKenna, Tobin – too smart to want to be leader of a dying party.
Free: “Let the MSM take care of this issue, they’ll turn their knives on Iggy soon enough.”
Don’t count on it. I predict that the MSM will inaugurate Iggy and have all the flower children voting that way by next election. Never count the Dippers out.
Zip:
Sounds like Iggy has some pretty good ideals which are more in tune with the average responsible Canadian, the type who rallied FOR Canada against the marxist coalition.
I happen to think Canada could use MOVE American values and reject the slow leftward drift of the opposition parties.
Speaking of which, one marxist leader out, two to go.
One Trojan Horse out (Rae), nowhere for the Liberal Party to go, since the Conservative Party has firmly planted themselves in the centrist positions the Libs used to hold before their leftward shift.
What territory are the Libs going to stake out? Further right of the Conservatives?
48 hours until the first Anti-Ignatieff ad is aired.. haha..
I can already hear the conservative war machine starting up. pwned!
48 hours until the first Anti-Ignatieff ad is aired.. haha..
I can already hear the conservative war machine starting up. pwned!
The coalition candidates in the next election would presumably consist of most Bloc-heads, Libs, NDPers, who won seats last time plus the first runners up from any party who came second to a Conservative who won his seat. That sounds very fair because the choice would be limited to vote Coalition or Conservative. I should email this to Iggy, Booby, and JackRat just to be sure I have this correct.
Neoconservatism is a political philosophy that emerged in the United States. Its key distinction is in international affairs, where it espouses an interventionist approach that seeks to defend national interests.
The term neoconservative was originally used as a criticism against liberals who had “moved to the right”. Michael Harrington, a democratic socialist, coined the usage of neoconservative in a 1973 Dissent magazine article concerning welfare policy. According to E. J. Dionne, the nascent neoconservatives were driven by “the notion that liberalism” had failed and “no longer knew what it was talking about.”
Irving Kristol remarked that a neoconservative is a “liberal mugged by reality,” one who became more conservative after seeing the results of liberal policies. Kristol also claims three distinctive aspects of neoconservatism from previous forms of conservatism: a forward-looking approach drawn from their liberal heritage, rather than the reactionary and dour approach of previous conservatives; a meliorative outlook, proposing alternate reforms rather than simply attacking social liberal reforms; taking philosophical or ideological ideas very seriously.
Finally a true Neo-con to vote for!
Go Iggy!
So now we know why we didn’t see nor could seem to find Ralph Goodale when the news of the coalition was breaking. Now we know the reason. Ralphie was one of the backroom boys for the Liberals cooking up the deal with the NDP and the SEPARATISTS (tough sh-t if Quebers are offended by that term)!
Saskatchewan’s own Ralph Goodale was turning his back on his province and Western Canada as a whole in taking an active part in this travesty. He was more than willing to disenfranchise the West. Never mind that in both Saskatchewan and Alberta we voted greater than 50% for the CPC. Our votes mean nothing to Mr. “I Worship at the Alter of the Eastern Liberals” Goodale.
Ralph needs to know that no effort will be spared to kick his sorry a$$ out of the Commons in the next election.
Ignatieff lived stateside from 2000-2005.