Update: NDP conference call audio is now on Youtube courtesy Stephen Taylor.
Blow up the Hill…
The New Democrats and Bloc Quebecois had a secret plan to form a coalition party well before the opposition’s uproar over the government’s fiscal update, CTV News has learned.
NDP Leader Jack Layton was in talks with Bloc Leader Gilles Duceppe for a “considerable period of time,” reported CTV’s Ottawa Bureau Chief Robert Fife.
Layton held a telephone-conference meeting with his caucus Saturday morning that was recorded by a Conservative member. According to the audio tape, Layton appears to take credit for the possibility of a coalition.
“Let’s just say we have strategies. This whole thing would not have happened if the moves hadn’t been made with the Bloc a long time ago and locked them in early,” Layton says. “Because, you couldn’t put three people together in one or three hours. The first part was done a long time ago.”
He then goes on to say that the NDP “spotted and prepared for the opportunity and had taken the steps that were required, so that when the opportunity arose, which was when Mr. Harper made his disastrous strategic error by not providing stimulus to the economy and instead playing political games, we were able to move and things began to move very quickly.”
Update: Stephen Taylor has the transcript of the NDP conference call.
Update 2 – Signs arise of a rift between the Loser Who Would Be King and the Heir Apparent…
Jack Layton: Man of Integrity, Good Faith, and Willingness to Work for the Good of Canada!
What’s happening right now is beyond comment. The country will pull itself apart if this Coalition goes through. I, for one, will have to give some serious thought as to whether I want to pay taxes to what would, in my eyes, be the result of a coup d’etat, and totally against the democratic system which spoke six weeks’ ago.
One more suggestion for the name of the new coalition party. How aboot the Canadian Leftwing Alliance Party (aka The CLAP). Like its namesake, you just wish it would go away as it causes you nothing but problems.
Otherwise Larry, Moe, and Curly (aka Stepane, Gilles, and Jack) seem to have a favorite catch phrase. That being “providing stimulus to the economy”. Funny though but they have no definitive ideas of their own on how to do this, without utterly bankrupting us.
I guess the DIPPERS and the SEPARATISTS have curtailed their own ability to use the words “hidden agenda” any more.
I’d be ROFLMAO, if I wasn’t so disgusted by them all.
leftists trying to seize power?
well that’s a new one, who’d have thunk it?
Yet another disgusting example of the sleazy nature of the dippers, Lieberals, and BQ – power at ANY cost. What vile scum bags the Three Stooges are.
Jack believes in same-sex marriage, but he draws the line at polygamy: he wants Gilles all to himself.
Take a hike Libs! Taliban Karl wants his Chairman Mao and his bedpans all to himself. The Sino-Soviet pact lives on.
Norman Spector provides some solid advice to the GG. What he is saying is correct of course, there is NO precedent for the Cabal de Trois to just take over if the PM demands that there be another election.
On the entertainment front, read the many comments. Most are complete morons, arguing that they have more understanding of this issue that Spector. Reminds me of how the 9/11 conspiracy nuts suddenly gained Metallurgical Engineering Degrees in a matter of minutes. It really is amazing how Emotion always usurps Intellect in the minds of the Left.
If the Liberals have any brains they should be backing out of this coalition as fast as they can.
Jack believes in same-sex marriage, but he draws the line at polygamy: he wants Gilles all to himself.
Take a hike Libs! Taliban Karl wants his Chairman Mao and his bedpans all to himself. The Sino-Soviet pact lives on.
The new name of the coalition!
“The Four Stooges”
Liberals, ND’s, Bloc, and Greens…
maybe it should be “The 3.1 Stooges” ?
Oops.
Double post.
My bad.
Layton also says about the Bloc: “Nothing could be better for our country than to have 50 members who have been elected to separate Quebec…actually helping to make Canada a better place.”
Gasp ……hahahahahahahahah….. gasp….
Jack and Gilles running the country? You know what that means don’t you? Civil war in Canada. There is not one thinking Canadian that would stand by and let those two little commie bastards run it for more than five minutes.
Jack and Gilles running the country? You know what that means don’t you? Civil war in Canada. There is not one thinking Canadian that would stand by and let those two little commie bastards run it for more than five minutes.
Layton held a telephone-conference meeting with his caucus Saturday morning that was recorded by a Conservative member.
How the hell did that happen? There’s an interesting side story…
How will the CBC and Toronto Star spin this one? I really can’t see how Taliban Jack can be part of the coalition now that he has been exposed as a conniving weasel, but the leftards are loyal to their leaders.
“If the Liberals have any brains they should be backing out of this coalition as fast as they can.” This I agree with. This is beginning to look very sinister, and the consequences for the Libs would be dire indeed. Having said that, they can emerge the “heros” if they pull the plug on this nonsense. Really, I doubt Ignatieff would be keen on something like this, and I suspect is is being driven more by Dion, Rae and Liberal Harper haters.
“How the hell did that happen?”
Knowing Jack and his Wile E Coyote intellect he probably put it on speakerphone and hooked it up to the public address system in the House of Commons.
I’m amazed a steel anvil or large rock didn’t fall on him in the middle of the call.
“Jack and Gilles blow up The Hill”…
Our very own Canuck Guy Fawkes’ Gang?
“exposed as a conniving weasel”
How clueless does someone have to be to have only figured that out now? He’s panting heavier after Gilles Duceppe than an out of shape porn star at an all night movie.
So when will the MSM start reporting that the separatist Bloc will be part of any ruling coalition?
I wonder if it was an Acme® phone, Hannibal?
“exposed as a conniving weasel”
“How clueless does someone have to be to have only figured that out now?”
Apparently the Dippers haven’t figured it out yet, or maybe they have and like him all the more.
I bet $20.00 the NDP offs Jack and dredges Bill Blaikie out of retirement. Bill’s hanging out at the University of Winnipeg where President Lloyd Axworthy is supporting Liberal Landmine Bob Rae for imminent detonation.
I think if they form the ‘coalition government’ and hit the economy with ‘stim’ package and ‘create many jobs that the Canadians want and must have’, just think of the money that is going to mysteriously going to disappear and up in the coffers of the ‘libs/ndp/bloc’ parties bank accounts.
So did Harper perhaps know about this plan before he mused about the poison pill? Dare I dream that this is all falling in place the way Harper planned?
By negotiating a coalition with the BQ, the NDP and Liberals show that they are more interested in power than integrity.
Lie down with dogs…
(Okay, okay, Kate’s dogs wouldn’t tolerate these characters, and I’m sure they are utterly flealess. The dogs, I mean.)
Exactly right. This idea came to me as I was walking back from some Xmas shopping today – that this whole scenario is really a ‘hidden agenda’ of Layton’s to finish off the Liberal Party.
The group that ought to be most afraid right now, is the Liberal Party. Think about it.
First, the Liberals were demolished at the election. Their reaction was to Ditch Dion and move into a leadership contest. They focus as usual, on The Leader, rather than Policy. The Liberals have gone without policies for a generation, since Chretien threw such necessaries overboard and instead, relied on massive taxation followed by using that money to buy votes.
But, the Liberals were busy with their leadership race. Layton was silent.
Then, Harper – whose govt was sworn in as legitimate – announced some economic measures. Some, not all, because you can’t work on them all without the cooperation of the global economic network.
This phase was cuts. To civil service wages, and to the pork barrel trough that funds political parties. The three parties who are dependent on this money went ballistic. Note that they were totally disinterested in the Canadian economy. They provide no plans, no amendments, nothing, about the economy. They daren’t say that their real beef is the cutting off of the trough money; so, they instead talk about ‘stimulation’ but haven’t a word or policy about such an action to provide as an amendment.
Then Layton makes his move. He suggests to the wild cowboys of the Liberal party to ‘merge’ to form a coalition and ‘become the government’. Some of them fall for it. But think.
The likelihood of such a scenario is, well, it’s unlikely. But, what if, what if..who would be Da Boss? Dion? heh. Rae or Ignatieff? Which one would back down? Ahhh…Layton.
And think about it, with this merger, he’d reduce the ability of the Liberal party to divest itself from the NDP. It would from now on, be seen as simply one arm of the NDP. And, the Bloc would be the other arm.
I think that the party with the most to lose in this fiasco, is the Liberal Party. No integrity, no democracy, no honour, no care for Canadians. Just power and greed.
The last line is the most important: Harper’s ham-fisted political tactics gave the Libs, the Dippers and the Bloc an opening.
Nice work, Steve. Nice work.
I have talked with my wife and we are going to exchange CDN for American USD on monday. If this coalition goes through we are taking the kids and moving back to the US. I can only imagine how much this will anger Alberta. This needs to be painted as a Lib/NDP and BLOC coalition.
“Libs, the Dippers and the Bloc an opening”
Wile E Coyote often saw a light at the end of the tunnel before the train rain him over. I think Harper is playing Bugs Bunny and Duceppes is cast as Black Jacques Shellac.
“Don’t blow up this one, Jacque!”
And what a surprise, “concerned, lifelong Conservatives” are showing up in the comments section to attack the Harper government.
“Because, you couldn’t put three people together in one or three hours. The first part was done a long time ago.”
”put 3 people together”,
that pretty much implicates the Liberals, no?
The NDP and Bloc were smart to begin these negotiations early.
They were right — Canadians can expect nothing but subterfuge, dishonesty, and Karl Rovian tactics from Steven Harper.
Prescience pays off.
Harper is done next week Monday!
Posted this earlier at the other topic below but thought I’d post here as well.
Just a hypothosis but suppose Iggy is the man of intellect that the Liberals have claimed in the past and he knows with Chretien now on the scene that Boob Rae will get the nod as the next Liberal leader courtesy of Power Corp and as a result will lead the Liberals through the next half decade or so, Iggy will then be too old to stage a comeback so he knows he has no chance of becoming Prime Minister. As a result he leads a revolt within the Liberal party and takes some “Blue” Liberals on a walk about and they end up crossing the floor ( Say an even dozen for arguments sake,). Seems to be enough egotists on the liberal side that this could be a possibility. As a conservative I’d sooner make an interm deal with a “Blue” Liberal for the next few years than to allow the Bloc to hobble and ransom the country by letting them make a deal with the Libs/Dips. Any comments!
An upside for Iggy in the above scenario would be that he would serve enough time in HoC to qualify for a pension. Whereas if an election is called in the next few years there may be a lot of the Liberals out on the street.
I think that it is time for charges of treason to be laid against Jack the Jackal, Duceppe, all about Quebec and Dion the dork, all about money and control. Also, the RCMP should be called in to press charges against Scott Reid for uttering death threats against the Prime Minister.
Lets go to another vote, I am so pissed off right now at these three imbeciles, I would just love for them to see the wrath of the voters. IF, this coalition wins, it is time for the west to leave. AND let the tit suckers feed off of each other. So pathetic!
Harper hasn’t provided stimulus to the economy, is the current version of “soldiers with guns….”, and makes even LESS sense.
Dion and Layton don’t mean a real stimulus, they mean taxpayers dollars to bail out their constituency, the auto workers.
Some member of the MSM should ask Dion & Layton where they stand on B.C. forestry workers bailout.
“If the Liberals have any brains they should be backing out of this coalition as fast as they can.” This I agree with. This is beginning to look very sinister, and the consequences for the Libs would be dire indeed. Having said that, they can emerge the “heros” if they pull the plug on this nonsense. Really, I doubt Ignatieff would be keen on something like this, and I suspect is is being driven more by Dion, Rae and Liberal Harper haters.
“the RCMP should be called in”
Ah yes, the pillars of sanctity the RCMP. In about 40 years they should have the investigation wrapped up. Better call in the FBI instead.
Two peas in a pod really, both are ideological communists and political opportunists that would chat up a security camera if they thought the film would end up being seen by someone (anyone).
I wonder if the Republic of Western Canada could use another skilled soldier.
Venezanada? Canazuela? Chavezisnuck? Even Survivor! had high quality liaisons than the Throw Canada Under the Bus gang. Raw naked greed and lust for power is not a pretty thing.
It should be crystal clear now to everyone why the Libs (p’tooey), the NDP (p’tooey) and the Bloc (p’tui) relentlessly want to disarm citizens. Hard to seize control when the citizens raise up in arms to object…
It looks to me like Harper got caught playing checkers.
A Manufactured event. Plain and simple. Hidden agenda is the operative phrase.
I also remember a statement that Dion made just right after the election that watch out for what would happen at budget time, and he smirked. I always wondered what he had in mind. Now we know.
Cutting party subsidies is undemocratic according to Bob Rae, so the answer is a bloodless political coup to overthrow the clear results of a democratic election we just had. Now that’s democracy at work!
Harper should look for fourteen sane opposition members willing to cross the floor. This would put an end to the scheming, and the Coalition of the Corrupted would be D.O.A.
But…..are there fourteen opposition members disgusted enough with the opportunistic power grab being proposed by crypt-keepers Chretien and Broadbent, or am I being far too optimistic?
The lack of Canadian outrage, except at Conservative sites, shows what a dangerous possibility this corrupt cabal could be. There needs to be a revolution in this country. There are plenty of us in the east who do not want anything to do with the left either, by the way. PM Harper miscalculated and now needs to take measures to protect us from the salivating, rabid leftbots, completely mesmerized by the thought of holding power in concert with the Obamessiah.
“Liberal Harper haters.”
Are there any other kind?
What I find disturbing about this is I don’t think its collusion between just the three opposition Parties.
If they defeat the government and the GG denies their request for a coalition, there would be another election.
An election the Liberals simply cannot fight. It would literally wipe them out.
So why would Dion all of the sudden develop a set of brass balls, and why would Harper after holding fast suddenly capitulate?
Seems to me it must be becuase Dion knew, and Harper just found out that there will be zero chance of the GG rejectin the Oppositions request to form government.
No way Dion bets the future of the LPC on a coin toss. Unless of course he knows its a two headed coin and he gets to call it.
While gaining power by whatever means necessary is certainly a priority, I think a just as high on their list is the thought that if they can remove the Conservatives from power, the very helpful MSM can start a narrative that Harper must step down as leader.
This is a much about destroying Harper as it is about gaining power. And I cannot see how the GG is not in on it.
“are there fourteen opposition members disgusted enough”
Keith Martin would be my first phone call.
Skip, I like Cana-banana-da if the coalition seizes power.
“Cana-banana-da”
Sounds like its time for the Bananada anthem.
So, is there accepted moniker for this one yet? Moustache-gate? Layton-gate? Slimy socialists trying to steal a country-gate?
Well, if we all just stop purchasing anything that is not essential, we can bring the economy to its knees. Let’s see how the Dippers and Bloc deal with that little issue.