Tony Blair’s Britain has arrived on our shores … and penetrated all the way to socialist Manitoba.
From Cjunk:
So, if the parents of a child have extreme political views … then that child is to be permanently removed from the home. Indian-haters, Muslim-haters, Conservative-haters, Che Guevara-lovers, Racists, Sexists, Communists, Christian-haters, Scientologists, Sikh extremists, pot-activists, nudists, Zionists, Fundamentalist Muslims, homophobes, extreme animal rights activists … hide your kids.
Who’s next? Are Muslim children going to be removed from their homes because they’re taught that the Koran sez it’s ok to have sex with 9 year olds? Christian kids? How about kids from capitalist families?
I’ve never been a big fan of Ezra – don’t really like him all that much but, his performance with that pompous ass, Rosenthal has “won my heart”. How can we get Ezra nominated for an Order of Canada?
How can we get Ezra nominated for an Order of Canada?
Maybe we could start by sending the chickenhawk to Afstan.
Not to worry Cjunk. It’s just the facist NDP trying to outdo the facist Liebs. Nothing good comes out of Manitoba anyways. Hell. Their socialist record is worse the Saskabush’s!!
Besides,I blame it all on AGW/BushMchimpyHitler.
Manny: …
*blink*
Apropos of nothing in particular:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=isdhEDWXg4I&feature=related
Ezra is absolutely brilliant, but he should have seized on one slip that Rosenthol made: ‘It should be illegal for a child to wear a symbol of hatred’.
That’s not the most important slip of logic that he admitted, but still pretty significant.
The ‘pompous Toronto lawyer who is a liberal’ prosecutes something that ‘should be illegal’. I must say: how typical!
Hilarious! Worth the time watch it.
I remember the time when kids that drew (hindu symbols) or whatever, or wore clothing that had slogans not appropriate for a learning environment were sent home with a nastygram for the parents. Now the nanny state jumps in without any (official) investigation? Pretty sad state of affairs.
I truly did love the “pompous arrogant toronto lawyer” smackdown though. Ezera is nothing but consistent on his freedom of speech, even if it supports a disgusting but lawful view.
btw, rosenthaul has defended more than his fair share of shadey types. No troubles taking their money.
Coming after an election near you!
Ahh, manny. Glad you’re back. Your strawmen arguments and pointless posts were missed. Now I remember why we constantly laughed at you.
Anyways, Ezra — excellent arguments, terrible, terrible shirt.
I have some beautiful old editions of Rudyard Kipling works on my shelves, and the swastikas on them are not “universal symbols of hatred.”
Why do we have to let rotten people hijack harmless or even good things to their purpose? So many things are coming not to mean what they once did. One of the worst areas for this is in the area of rights, where the very term “right” has come to mean an entitlement.
The state is going to remediate the “emotional well being” of children by taking them away from their parents? Taking them AWAY from their PARENTS!? Government employees are going to determine the emotional well being of children?
The school, which in my view has every right to set dress and appearance codes, should simply tell the parents their kid won’t be permitted to return to the classroom until it’s removed or covered. As a hard core libertarian I have no problem with this, just as I have no issue with prohibiting young pre-pubescent girls from wearing whore costumes in the classroom or boys exhibiting butt-cracks.
I too have mixed feeling about Ezra. The text at the end of the clip is a hit hyprocitical in light of his personal attack on the lawyer which is quite a bit stronger than the lawyer’s standard liberal-paternalistic advice about getting counselling.
When you’re fighting the zeitgeist you gotta be a bit more even-tempered if you want to win people over. I fear Ezra re-wins over the already won over.
January 1, 2015: Inspite of a cross country uproar, Canada’s latest federal law passed by the Liberals last fall, kicks in today, requiring all couples to undergo a ‘parental suitability evaluation’. Supporters say the law is the only way to stomp out hatred. Those opposed denounce the law because of what they say amounts to delving into the political beliefs of the parents and that it is completely ineffective and unfair due to the fact that foreign born couples classed as minorities are exempt from the law so as not to impede immigration. The Prime Minister defended the law today citing the opponents are mainly from ‘out of mainstream opinion’. He went on to state how important this law is for Canada and that it is a model for the world. UN Secretary General Mohammad Mohammad praised Canada in a speech today, saying “Canada is a world leader in wiping out hatred. We urge all western nations to follow suit”. The Secretary General is on his way today to mediate a cease fire between Hezbollah, Hamas, Fatah and Israel after the devastating attack last week that destroyed one small Israeli city.
Liberalism must always end up at the barrel of a gun. How else could the government make individuals or society act against their own individual or even collective self-interests?
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That Jonathon Rosenthal is a pretty scary dude.
Did you know that there is a town called Swastika in Northern Ontario. Perhaps we should remove all the children from the town(“not”)!
While I do not advoacate its modern symbology a swastika used to indicate good luck.
That Jonathon Rosenthal is a pretty scary dude.
Did you know that there is a town called Swastika in Northern Ontario. Perhaps we should remove all the children from the town(“not”)!
While I do not advoacate its modern symbology a swastika used to indicate good luck.
Sounder: I almost embarrassed myself by commenting before becoming aware of the date on a second read. On second thought, however, it sounded perfectly in line with where we’re going — not at all futurisitc really. You won’t get your sci-fi novel published with mild stuff like this. 🙂
quote from no libs comments …
After watching that clip, I think this growing ideological culture war is going to come to a lot of shooting at some point. You know, a good old fashioned civil war.
I has happened many times before and it can happen again.
These are not issues that can be debated to a logical conclusion because there is little logic coming from the fascist kid Nappers who are running the horrid nanny sate that used to be Canada.
I have noted in my long life that kids rarely take on their parents values anyway. They like to do the opposite. That’s how we got hippies isn’t it?
And look what the hippies have given us … political correctness, multiculturalism, nanny-statism, Big time welfare, a drug culture, the CHRC and pretty much everything that is wrong with our society today.
To quote Kate M. “Someday all the hippies will be dead”. Lets hope they don’t succeed in taking our society with them.
Keep going Ezra. You appear to be our last best hope to stop these f*ckers.
Loved this little slip by Mr. Rosenthal at about 6:22.
“What about the child in need of protection? What happens if that child is beaten by people who dont like that Nazi uniform….”
I wonder who he might be refering to. Mr. Rosenthal sure seems angry.
I think Ezra is my favorite superhero after he makes that guy look like a complete clown!!!! Awesome spectacle to behold!!!!
After watching that clip, I think this growing ideological culture war is going to come to a lot of shooting at some point. You know, a good old fashioned civil war.
I has happened many times before and it can happen again.
These are not issues that can be debated to a logical conclusion because there is little logic coming from the fascist kid Nappers who are running the horrid nanny sate that used to be Canada.
I have noted in my long life that kids rarely take on their parents values anyway. They like to do the opposite. That’s how we got hippies isn’t it?
And look what the hippies have given us … political correctness, multiculturalism, nanny-statism, Big time welfare, a drug culture, the CHRC and pretty much everything that is wrong with our society today.
To quote Kate M. “Someday all the hippies will be dead”. Lets hope they don’t succeed in taking our society with them.
Keep going Ezra. You appear to be our last best hope to stop these dicks.
it ALL keeps coming back to Osgoode Hall doesn’t it ?….it must be blindingly apparent to others than myself that Osgoode Hall is the red star of a pernicious progressive LLLiberal chancre that is attempting to infect the body politic through whatever orifice it finds susceptible…i don’t think there’s a big enough dose of permanganate to eradicate the spirochete.
not to say we’re doomed of course…
Has anybody raised the obvious point that some are extremely offended by a peace symbol for a variety of reasons and would find a child adorned with one equally “offensive?”
How about one of those disgusting Che Guevara t-shirts? But this isn’t just about the sacred right not to be offended, is it?
It must have felt like a sucker punch to listen to that drivel about “I hope your wife’s watching and gets you counselling.”
Good for Levant. He did better than he thinks he did.
Ezra Levant has just made the same point I did just above about children adorned with “leftist” symbols, right down to the Che shirt. Brilliant fellow!
In the Occupation following WWII did we remove Germany’s children from their Nazi parents, hell no, because as repugnaant as their parents political views were making children of ideologically incorrect parents wards of the state was more repugnant. We aren’t fascists. Fascists do that.
Eradicating bad ideas in a free society is easy, shame, reason and an open debate are great cures to stupid ideas, but, that’s if a society has the confidence and freedom to apply those measures. We don’t need no stinking tribunals or lefty thought police to arbitrate which kids become wards of the the state’s correct thinking list.
The state of Texas social worker zealots were slapped down by the courts after they decided to remove all of a religious cult’s kids recently as they should have been. In that and this scenerio the dumb social workers, and it’s now a de facto dumb degree, a product of the lefty dumbing down of higher education, acted as agents of the state. Like the Nanny State cops in Britain, the left are masters of finding the stupid to carry out their agends.
Rosenthal is a fascist weasel. And, typical, you can bet he nor the lefty Nanny State minions would ever move to strip non-whites of their blatant anti-white hate symbols.
for some CRAZY reason i’m wondering where Superduper K-man was when this swastika imbroglio started….and why doesn’t the K-man have a foto of the swastika….and blogwise he seems oddly quiet about the whole fracas…almost as though he’s hiding something……so like how far away is manitoba from toronto …anyone know ?
john begley, K-man is busy reveling over the death of US Republican Senator Jesse Helms. You know, hatred for a conservative trumps all. What a hypocrite.
I think that huffing, effeminate Tranna flimp should take a trip to the day spa or put on a mud mask and settle down.
I am looking at fellas like Warren Kinsella, David Miller and now this urban cliff dweller and I wonder if there are any men left in Ontario?
Ouch! To suggest that Ezra’s wife get him counselling!
The lawyer deserved a smackdown for that alone.
The largest impact for the young children, who are very young, will come from that removal from their own home.
And there was not one sense of that coming from this Rosenthal.
On the shirt….I think Ezra was into Calgary Stampede events at the time of the interview.
Don’t let Rosenthal anywhere near that entertainment venue.
Heck, would any farm kid be safe from a Rosenthal removal plan, with all that happens with the operation of a farm or rodeo?
Sort of helps to see how residential schools got started, believing most parents did not know how to raise and love their children best.
Ezra has been under fire for a long while now.
There is no surprise that he is less than tender with the ‘other side’.
Mr. Rosenthal looks a little excitable there, eh? I don’t believe I’d trust that guy with live ammo at the range. Nuh uh. Too twitchy.
Ezra’s right of course. Of course its bullsh1t for the little kid to show up at school with a swastika,of course its bullsh1t to be a white supremest in the first place. But it isn’t -illegal-, and it isn’t -dangerous-. Distasteful, distressing, possibly an outrage, but not physically dangerous. The child seems to be in no physical danger, nor do the child’s classmates.
A state institution trying to take somebody’s kid away because they have objectionable beliefs? That’s frickin’ terrifying. Taking your kids? People are willing to die over stuff like that. That’s civil war material.
It takes a lot to get me to feel anything more than contempt for the White Power crowd, but this is doing it. You can’t take a guy’s kid away because he’s a jerk and believes stupid things.
I wonder if Mr. Rosenthal has the guts to be number one man through the door when the CPS goes to snatch this kid? Let me be the first to say, I strongly doubt it. He’s a pencil neck.
So, gay pride gets a parade, black history gets a month, but you are a dick if you are proud of your white heritage? Look at it objectively, the white man has brought a lot of good to the table. Seems that there is a lot of intolerance towards the white race……. I see a CHRC complaint in the future……
So, Mr. Rosenthal, I suppose you’d have NO problem with residential schools, after all, using the wisdom of government in that era, Indian children had to be removed from the influence of their “savage/heathen parents to be forcibly civilized.
I think the hijab is a symbol of hatred against women. Therefore all hijab-wearing mothers must have their children seized.
Now to alert the authorities. We could be just a writ of mandamus away from returning Canada to the list of free nations.
“Sort of helps to see how residential schools got started, believing most parents did not know how to raise and love their children best.”
Best comment of the day BB!
God save me from people with “good intentions”.
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hang on a second… we don’t even take kids away from
junkies… and we know what’s gonna happen there.
amazing.
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While it is clearly questionable to have an a$$hole parent to tattoo anything on their little ones (which should be prohibited in the first place), the lawyer from Toronto is of course out of line, to have a say what parents should talk with children about.
Sheer force of common decency and general disapproval should be enough to calm the idiots on both sides.
There are plenty of examples, of children having different opinion from the parents. This is actually almost a law of nature. Talking here, from own experience.
Due to influence of schools and other assorted institutions of diktat, there is no chance that a kid today would come out as anything as a socialist, though come to think of it, there is not much of a distance to the ‘national’ added to it.
The 10 scariest words in the English language:
“I’m from the government, and I’m here to help you.”
Rosenthal’s attack was simply a gratuitous debating ploy to put Ezra on the defensive — particularly the part about Ezra’s wife somehow being the moral barometer for Ezra. When I went to law school, I knew too many “Rosenthals” in the making.
Keep Rosenthal back in T.O. Central Canada deserves more like him.
Garth
Faisal Joseph, Jonathan Rosenthal … man there are some crap lawyers out there!
“Communism killed 100 million and all I got was this crappy Che Guevara t-shirt.”
‘out as anything as a socialist’,should read as ‘anything other than a socialist’
From Mr. Rosenthal:
“They allowed their child to go out with an emblem on her which … represented a group which … murdered twelve million people. If that’s not a kid in need of protection, I don’t know what is.”
That’s funny, I know what a kid in need of protection is. A child whose parents have been physically abusing him is in need of protection. A child whose parents don’t provide minimum standards of sanitation in the home is in need of protection. A child whose parents don’t feed him is in need of protection. I could go on. The fact that a child’s parents hold values that, in my opinion, are evil is not a child in need of protection. Law should be directed to behavior, not thoughts.
Childred are used for political purposes all the time. Every political advertisement by a political party that uses children would have to be suspect.
When has an eco-creep outfit not put children out front in one of its propaganda pieces? Sending your child to school wearing a World Wackjob Fund tee-shirt could get them beaten up, should Child and Family Services step in for that?
On another but similar note, you don’t have to preach any political philosphy to children. Children pick up on your actions, thoughts and deeds quite well on their own.
No matter how hard you may try to hide it from them, your child will be your carbon copy even when you think they became your exact opposite.
T.Paine at 9:19,You must be spinning in your grave…..In Canada we have freedom of religion,freedom of choice,freedom of speech,as defined by trudeau,and re-inforced by his courts.We are all equal,except for those who are offended easily and perpetually,they need more protection from those who believe in fredom.
A 7 year old kid draws a swastika on herself goes to school ,gets her arm washed,goes home hours later still upset with no explanation,Mom pacifies her kid by redrawing the swastika,next day Mom gives the kid a sweater to cover up the swastika because they’re having trouble getting it off,kid forgets the sweater ,Mom picks up the kid at school and is met by the police who take both her kids away.
Did Mom know what was going on?Was she so pissed that she redrew the swastika out of spite?Was Mom wrong? Of course.
However,where exactly in the teachers union handbook does it state that they are allowed to physically contact 7 year olds if they are sporting something that teachers disagree with?
By washing the kid’s arm without contacting the parents and trying to find a amicable solution the teacher became a self annointed judge ,jury and executioneer.
By calling the police the following day when teach saw that the decision that was meted out the previous day had been challenged is indicative of someone who has zero common sense and not a shred of empathy for students in their care.It was more important for the teacher not have her moral indignation and authority challenged than to deal with a problem in an adult way.
The teacher should have been charged with abuse.
Remember, amongst many Progressives there is no difference between a white supremacist and a homophobe. In the UK, traditional Christians who teach that homosexuality is a sin are not allowed to foster children. In Germany, you can not home school your children and must therefore submit them to pro-gay propaganda.
Make no mistake, if white supremicists have their children taken, in Canada it is in the realm of possibility that traditional Christians will one day have their children taken. If Progressives can not distinguish between the two beliefs and they gain sufficient power, they start taking children. They will do it because in their view any child could be a potential gay person who needs to be liberated from abusive Christian parents who will not welcome the child’s sexuality.
Regardless of this mothers politics, she must be defended or things could get really ugly in Canada in a decade or two. I am a Catholic and the first time in my life I’ve seriously contemplated that Roman Catholics may need to flee Christian persecution in Canada. We are only a year or two away from priests who rightly teach that homosexuality is a sin are thrown in jail.
One day a kid will go to school with an anti-gay t-shirt and the government will try to take him away from his parents.
A 7 year old kid draws a swastika on herself goes to school ,gets her arm washed,goes home hours later still upset with no explanation,Mom pacifies her kid by redrawing the swastika,next day Mom gives the kid a sweater to cover up the swastika because they’re having trouble getting it off,kid forgets the sweater ,Mom picks up the kid at school and is met by the police who take both her kids away.
Did Mom know what was going on?Was she so pissed that she redrew the swastika out of spite?Was Mom wrong? Of course.
However,where exactly in the teachers union handbook does it state that they are allowed to physically contact 7 year olds if they are sporting something that teachers disagree with?
By washing the kid’s arm without contacting the parents and trying to find a amicable solution the teacher became a self annointed judge ,jury and executioneer.
By calling the police the following day when teach saw that the decision that was meted out the previous day had been challenged is indicative of someone who has zero common sense and not a shred of empathy for students in their care.It was more important for the teacher not have her moral indignation and authority challenged than to deal with a problem in an adult way.Now both kids have been wrestled away from their Mom by the government,I hope the teacher is proud that she got her way and made her point.
I believe that the teacher should have been charged with abuse as soon as she laid a finger on that 7 year old.
posted at Ezra’s
Ezra,
You missed a huge opportunity with the Rosenthal interview. What would he think of a young Jewish boy wearing the Star of David around his neck? For many “progressives” that’s a symbol of the terrible Israeli’s wreaking terror on the hapless Palestinians.
Does a seven year old boy inherently know Judeaism, or is he taught by his parents? Should he be pulled out of his family the next time someone complains about the Israeli genocide of the Palestinian people?
I would have loved to have seen Rosenthal’s reaction to that one…
wow.
what a can of worms Manitoba is opening.
I’m gobsmacked.
Children need to wear simple or uniform
no jewlery no symbol of religion or not symbol of polticial party liberal conservative
as simple dres as possilbe they can
school is not place adult use their children for made direction
if the children used so much f** word nasty thing
scholl can send at firest by 2 warning letter as notice to children and responsible parents the third letter can be suspenstion for 3 days your child stay home with return of more homework not stay doing nothing
sometimes children wear some wrong sign again this punishment should go like said above two warning letter and third letter 3 days stay hom with homework done for come back
we can not always think parenst dress child may children getis from some where orcousin or film or any freind family member
if continue then scholl can send the letter to go to court and find solution may pschologinal help first or some counsling to parents
I am not agree to as soon as some mistake come treat parenst to courts some social worker in scholl may get advanatage of it or some jewish anti Muslim teacher may revenge his or her idea to children of middle east to bother their parenta we also should prepare if teacher doing fault parnest has right to send two letter warning to teacher and scholl and bring teacher before board of educaiton board to see why teacher botehr intentiaonly with racist idea the children of ethinic back ground you can not always think problme may is fa\ult of kids or parnent may be principal or teacher or some peopel work in shcool bother children parents and kids has right to put compalin to board of eduction for investigation
at the end of day we must make sure school under stand dicipline not let use anyhate and rude lanuganage to train kid grow up not today chilrend agae 12 start using all F wording you may think this boy has too many sex while they only mirror image of their parents
parnest with viloance may affect children anger or some kid may be so quiet and look abuse by parents or may be teacher
how children grow with slef confidnece and protect them from hate will prevnet so many crime late when they become young offender
cartoon they are watching need to have certain cansor such as waltdisney or some carton maydraw with gay and lisbian or this cartoon shold be out of teach children how to become jeiwsh or chirsitna while cartoon is not some group teach politicla or religion while they can say you can be good not support anyreligion in favor of others
except privae school nobody from relgion or political should come to school to force their idea to children notready to undersand politic
it is too early to judge parent wihtout proper warning to seperate children from parents
again hate crime must stop influcne children so young age
in invite children birthday party parenst should not botehr chirldne from differnet race orrelgion background orany safty must control by school children
Ezra think it is funny put prophet mohamad picture with bomb to the head means I love killing Muslim head is hate crime against Muslim too this picute must ban you can say save Jwish from Nazi and let them teach them go put symbol of prophet mohamd to kill Muslim both are wrong infulince in innocent children
children need to grow by love support caring and hope for better future in Canada and united and safty of them not as tools some parents use childrne make money and pass politcal hate message while they shouldnot do that this can be stop in proper way not to abusive way
this may sansor some cartoon while this is protection of children place safty to able to resolve issue and be freind with no different ideas of thier parents and even teacher’s ideas
Rosenthal was brought in a ringer to take on Ezra, IMO, and he was carried out of the proverbial ring feet first. It appeared that from the outset he didn’t believe he couldn’t win the argument so he chose to unleash a startling, specious ad hominem argument couched in a display of moral outrage. The gambit directly backfired because it showed the Ezra’s assessment of the characteristics of that tribe who would rule everyone else, by dint of their own perceived holier-than-thou-ness has been spot on.
They assert the superiority of their personal politics over another, and they wish to transfer this as force into the corporeal realm of others. Ezra called him on that, in effect. It’s stark, but there it is.
I just want to say, I know that not everyone likes Ezra, apparently, but I really hope that conservatives and libertarians and Christians and reasonable centrists appreciate his value. There are some truly important struggles going on at this point in our history that will not only have profound repercussion for a long time, but from which there may be no return. The proverbial fork in the road. Correct me if I’m wrong, someone, but I don’t think we’ve seen his like before in such forums. In terms of calling BS, sticking up for liberty and freedom of speech in the face of political correctness, and and taking on Lib culture full-tilt, he’s been an absolute boon.
You have to give CTV credit too for their willingness to allow the debates that have been going on in this country for a long time, and which are fundamental to us as Canadians to finally make it to air. CTV is in danger of wiping out default-setting anachronism CBC, by virtue of CTV being the more real and relevant and therefore more entertaining televised news media.
Is Jonathan’s wife going to suggest that he go for counseling after she sees this clip, do you think?
That is one weird guy.