Some Bigots Are More Equal Than Others

The Tolerant Left 215 Comments


Or, as Kathy Shaidle likes to say, “Journalists – our moral and intellectual superiors!”
(Great work, Richard)
Update: I’m told that CTV.ca has quietly cut the offending portion from the tape on their online site. Not that there was anything wrong with it! **** Update 2: Or did they? Others tell me the segment is now intact.

215 Replies to “Some Bigots Are More Equal Than Others”

  2. Vitruvius, I don’t like to disagree with you, but: did you read the description of the sexual behaviour described by a member of the homosexual community (not me) in the Xtra article I provided?
    In the present thread, where hypocrisy and double standards are central, the behaviour of the homosexual community, about which Lukiwski—and by spin and innuendo, the whole Conservative caucus—are being hammered, is most definitely not a side issue. (It seems that you, quite out of character, are positing that truth is no defence. Actually, you seem to be denying the truth.)
    The point I’m making is that the mores and norms of the homosexual community are quite offensive to many people—and sometimes, deliberately so—but that community gets a free pass. Also, neither I, nor anyone else here is screaming for blood by demanding apologies from and resignations of people in the homosexual community.
    Loki writes, “Criticism of homosexuals seems to be verbotten now despite the well known health consequences of homosexuality. If one excludes IV drug users, >95% of sexually transmitted HIV cases occur in homosexuals. All venereal diseases are orders of magnitude higher in the homosexual population which is not surprising given that having several hundred sexual partners/year is considered ‘normal’ in cities such as Vancouver.”
    While homosexuals are now a protected, privileged minority—otherwise this tempest in a teapot would not have occurred (observant Christians, of which I am one, are slandered and libelled on a regular basis in this country)—a lot of the rest of us are vulnerable. The quite vicious attack on Lukiwski and the Conservative caucus has demonstrated such dangerous hypocrisy in spades. I’m concerned about that.

  3. “I am pro gay BTW…. Often I wish i was gay myself.”
    Posted by: atheist quebecois separatiste
    You mean you are pro anal sex? Because that is the image that comes to mind with normal people when they think of gays and perhaps some frail man in heavy make and womens clothing.
    I cannot imagine what pro gay means. Perhaps you mean that all people should be gay. You wish you were. What’s stopping you? We live in a country where you can be an do pretty much whatever you want. The government will even pay for a sex change if that’s your bag.
    Your comment is idiotic. My guess is that if you were simply being tolerant or magnanimous, you might have said. I am tolerant to the gay life-style or you think it’s fine for same sex people to love each other.
    Being pro something usually means that you are in favor of or are rooting for a win of some sort.
    You see, most normal people simply try to ignore the abhorrent life-style that you wish you could be part of. That is because most Canadians are polite and tolerant. That certainly doesn’t mean we are pro gay. At least in my case, it means if gay people want to do whatever it is they do, they are of course free to doit it, but I would appreciate if they keep it to themselves. Just as I prefer not to see hetro’s parading their sexuality because it’s simply rude.
    Most gays I have met are promiscuous. Gays are promiscuous by nature. The less attractive one’s seem to be the one’s who want to get married and just run a domestic business like the rest of us. However, there are many flamers out there who just can’t stop putting their stuff in everybody’s face like juveniles flaunt their droopy pants and ugly tattoos. I mean to say … what’s with the annual sex parades?
    Young men will lots of beer don’t have much good to say about gay people and that’s just part of life. Sixteen years ago Canada was less politically correct than it is nowadays. This whole issue is a tempest in a teapot.
    However, Robert Fife is a member of Canada’s national new organization and his comments about knucke draggers are another issue entirely.
    I see no reason why people have to be pro gay lifestyle if they see it as abhorrent. Half of Canada things it’s disgusting to be a Christian.
    We live in very confusing and sometimes sickening times.
    One last point. It is the conservative government who has recently suggested that if they achieve a majority government they will work to five Quecbec the sovereign status they have been seeking for so long. And that from your anti gay knuckle draggers.
    Wise up.

  5. Is it any wonder the Chretien / Martin era Liberal government could operate a corrupt regime for more than a decade with CTV, CBC, CanWest Global as the country’s “news” disseminator- enablers?
    CTV with Lloyd and Fife, last night, sealed their bias with that “knuckledragger” smear of MP conservatives.
    They will wear that on air bias smear as long as they live.

  6. BOB FIFE you’re slipping, you forgot to mention goosestepping NAZIS SS GESTAPO Fascists.
    Hey lets just have a nice WEIMAR Republic shoot ’em up in the Ottawa streets.
    You remember don’t you Bob, with:
    “Soldiers with guns
    In your cities
    In Canada
    I am not making this up”
    Way to be objective there. Aren’t journalists not supposed to become the news story or did you forget that little item as well?
    What a precious treasure we have in the media.
    Sincerely yours,
    A Reformed Knuckledragging Cavedweller who drinks beer with Sasquatches on Canadian glaciers.
    Yo my little mugwump, where’s the brewskies?
    Cheers
    Hans-Christian Georg Rupprecht BGS, PDP, CFP
    Commander in Chief
    Frankenstein Battalion
    2nd Squadron: Ulanen-(Lancers) Regiment Großherzog Friedrich von Baden(Rheinisches) Nr.7(Saarbrucken)
    Knecht Rupprecht Division
    Hans Corps
    1st Saint Nicolaas Army
    Army Group “True North”

  7. I don’t care, Lookout, the topic is not homosexuality, the topic is corrupt media. By focusing on one of your favourite hot-button issues, you are leading with a weak punch. If I may refer to the first comment above, by EBD, “Everyone got their swords sharpened? Got your joints all loose?” If you’re stabbing at non-targets in the local battle, never mind the broader war, then you’re exposed on your flank.

  8. I left commentary at the CTV’s site regarding this matter.
    I asked the question, How does this compare with Tommy Douglas’ masters thesis ideas regarding homosexuals?
    and you know what?
    The CTV choose not to publish my question!
    why would this be?
    I can’t imagine…

  9. Would Fife’s comments be ‘likely to expose a person or persons to hatred or contempt’?
    And another thing,if Mark Steyn and Macleans are being charged for quoting an Iman in the infamous ‘breed like mosquitoes’ quote, where does that leave the NDP?
    They, after all, are the ones who released this tape.
    Oh, wait, the HRC’s don’t eat their own.
    Yet.

  11. While “knuckle-draggers” is derogatory name calling and as such, journalistically unprofessional, it is not a lie to say some are members of the Harper caucus. Social conservative is NOT derogatory, indeed many would proudly declare themselves social conservatives. The hidden agenda is a considered opinion.
    And you are quite correct, ET, there will be consequences for that unprofessionalism, and as I said elsewhere, if CTV feels that the heat from the knuckle dragging demographic, then he may resign or be terminated. And so be it. I don’t happen to agree that he should be, but I find it strange, ET, that on the one hand you are calling for Fife’s head, and on the other, saying that speech should without consequence.

  12. I tried to post the following comment on the CTV Lukiwski’s story, last night, and they won’t post it. Wonder of wonders!
    This 17 year old story or scandal as some of the MSM are calling it is so ridiculous that I won’t waste my time to comment on it.
    The House of Commons and at least
    4 committees are totally dysfunctional. Private members bills are becoming the way laws are made in this country. The official opposition party is one big joke.
    The NDP must have taken a few dirt digging lessons from Mark Holland and the Bloc shouldn’t even be in Parliament.Paul Martin is off in never, never land somewhere. All this at our, the taxpayers,expense.
    Harper can’t go to the Governor General because of the fixed election date and Dion is not going to bring down the Government until his ‘divine’ right to be Prime Minister is achievable in his mind!!
    I think its time for the average Canadian citizen to email the Governor General and ask her to
    dissolve this mockery of a parliament. Maybe if she got 5 or 6 million emails it would set the
    wheels into motion.
    Today:- After todays developments on this story and the apology in the house I would say end of story. But I see the liberals jumping on this like a buck in the rut with no regard to a man livelong career. I thinks it’s time for Harper to talk to the Governor General and put Dion out of his misery. If the NDP loose seats then Layton is gone, Dion will be gone and I believe the Bloc leader will be gone.

  13. Still no sign of Manny.
    Oh well, look on the bright side, I always say.
    That’s one less festering pustulent boil to lance.
    I love annoyances that go away when you ignore them.

  14. manny is young.
    He (she) has no concept of journalism.There is a whole generation that has is growing up with biased media.
    manny…do your homewrk now.

  15. Vitruvius, I know what the topic is. So, we’ll have to agree–or I will–to disagree.

  16. Anyone ( Richard ) youtubed that CBC airheads comments after the recent by-elections equating voting Liberal as a sign of intelligence ? I’m sure many here could add their faves ……as Trey would say ….. it’s time for a MONTAGE .

  17. Such unprofessional conduct from Robert Fife.
    Unhinged. Unfiltered. Unacceptable.
    “Knuckle draggers”. How original. Never heard that one before!
    Wonder if I could get in trouble for calling Robert Fife a “limp-wrister” or a “rope sucker”? What’s the difference? Oh, yes… I’m not a professional TV network journalist! Fife is! Big, fat, hairy difference!
    Besides, Robert Fife looks like a Nazi… ever notice? Picture him in one of those uniforms, perhaps as Goebbels’s top assistant…
    Hey, Bobby, why don’t you just get a blog so you can spew your nonsensical drivel there, instead of on national television, posing as a legitimate, professional journalist?
    Schmuck. Schmeckel. Tatalah.

  18. How dare anyone utter such meanspirited remarks about gay persons? No wonder the PC press is all over these ‘hatemongering’ stories and thus not hesitating to righteously smear all conservatives by attacking ‘some’ as ‘knuckledraggers’.
    In contrast,I see it is acceptable to our media to be arrested buying the ingredients to build a massive bomb to murder fellow Canadians and conspire to behead a conservative PM because those same myopic individuals in the press would rather just pretend this whole incident never REALLY happened than explore the story in the least.
    That might upset a muslim or two.
    Hypocrisy,where is thy sting?

  19. Marc in Calgary: So the CTV didn’t publish an inconvenient comment, yet I get blasted by leftists for deleting their hostile, irrelevant, off-topic comments on my site? What’s the difference? Is if ok for the MSM to censor, but not bloggers???

  20. There are many things we agree on, Lookout, and I always value your comments, even when I occasionally disagree with your particular conjecture, so, for now, yes, let’s agree to disagree on this one. I offer you my best wishes.
    Note to referees: Sentinal, Goodwin’s Law, red card.
    Argghh.. yes, act like the people you are criticizing, that will help your cause.

  21. perhaps Mr. Fife deserves to be hauled before a “human rights” commission…

  23. It is remarkable how that MSM spins the CPC Caucus’ discipline as a bad thing. It all plays into the “hidden agenda” spiel. Just because the CPC suffers one tenth of the idiotic displays of the other parties, especially the Libs, it is because Stephen Harper’s Stalin like iron fisted discipline. I always thought that a disciplined team was a good thing. At least that is what I strive for in the sports teams that I coach.

  24. Shades of Elinor Caplan,who proclaimed that the reform party was made up of ‘bigots,racists and holocaust deniers’.That is acceptable as it is targetted at the right.Fife’s comments will be deemed acceptable also,for the same reason. We are the last acceptable punchline that is allowed by the HRC’s of Canada..

  26. no, manny, I’m not saying that speech should be without consequence. You simply don’t get it. I’m saying that freedom of speech is primary, and I, the speaker can accept or not accept the consequences of his speech.
    So, I call you bigoted for saying that ‘it is not a lie’ (ie it’s true) that there are ‘knuckle draggers’ in Harper’s caucus. You are saying that their opinions can be viewed in a derogatory manner. That’s bigotry on your part. Just as it is bigotry on Fife’s part.
    Equally, you ignore the ‘out of date’ views in other parties. Why? You are biased.
    The point is, the MSM is heavily biased against the Conservatives and has, indeed, descended into yellow journalism.
    I am fed up with the endless, endless speculation about ‘When Will There Be An Election’. That’s all that Duffy and Newman can talk about; the agenda (hidden) is to return the Liberals to Power. Their disdain for Dion is only because he isn’t up to that task.
    They utterly ignore the accomplishments of the Harper govt; their focus is only on how to create the conditions for an election.
    Or, their focus is to assist the Liberals/NDP in constant endless smear campaigns against Harper.
    Each week, it’s another try. Mulroney-Schreiber, with their attempting to link Harper into it. That failed. Cadman – that’s gone; Nafta – that’s gone. Now this. It’s endless; the MSM spends hours and hours on it.
    The print MSM are equally involved. How about that front page headline of the Globe the other day, informing us that Harper wanted to open the constitution for the benefit of Quebec. Factual? No; the MP quoted has said absolutely nothing of the sort. But the G&M headline was a different story.
    As for the accomplishments – nothing. Silence.
    Our MSM are revealing themselves as mired in unprofessionalism, as hacks of the Liberals, and as unprofessional.
    That’s why we need blogs in Canada. Because our so-called professional news sources have moved into unprofessional behaviour.

  28. We need to find out what type of counter-tops this Fife character has!!!!

  29. no, manny, I’m not saying that speech should be without consequence.
    manny – there’s no such thing as a linear ‘consequence of speech’.
    Posted by: ET at April 3, 2008 7:27 PM
    I stand corrected.

  31. Fife forgot to mention that the knuckle draggers with the hidden agendas were also mouth breathers. Was my sarcasm showing?
    In a two or so minute or so news clip, Fife managed to sum up the Liberal paranoia quite nicely. Too bad he didn’t mention the many cases of bombastic Liberal foot in mouth disease that outraged Canadians. I guess Carolyn Parrish calling the US President a bastard doesn’t count…

  32. outraged Canadians. I guess Carolyn Parrish calling the US President a bastard doesn’t count…
    ========
    most Canadians agreed with this actually…even more so now.

  33. Grrrrrrrr, I’m so angry I could squeeze a grape and pretend it was, well never mind.
    Time to demand Fife’s resignation and demand he name the “knuckle-draggers” and have his ass hauled to the courts. There’s got to be a line crossed here even for these journalists well past their prime.
    He’s leaving a cloud over the whole Conservative Party with those remarks

  35. “Knuckle draggers”. How original. Never heard that one before!”
    Snorin’ Kinsella, he of the PanzerPaper – Toilet Division Armored Bridgade, uses it often along with “mouth-breather”.
    Achtung.

  36. I sent CTV this:(for what it’s worth)
    Dear Sirs,
    I’d rather deal with a “knuckle dragging conservative” any day than a smarmy knuckle dragging liberal who swings with the polling compass day to day.
    Robert Fife is an idiot.
    If you don’t stand for something, you’ll fall for anything.
    Liberals in a nutshell.

  37. And this from the national news that has the most conservative bias! Ha ha. Hard to take, eh? Betcha Don Newman really went for the jugular!
    You all are in a tizz about this. Relax, Poppa Harper might not be too mad — about losing his limelight to such ridiculous shenanigans. Oh wait — my bad, he’s gonna be mucho angry and the poop’s gonna fly. This is , as Bob Fife said, “Harper’s worst nightmare.”
    Meantime, I confess, I have a dirty crush on Robert Fife.

  38. Sounds like hate speech to me. I’m Conservative and I don’t like what Fife said. I think I’ll complain to the Ontario Human Rights commission about Fife’s hateful speech.

  39. Don Newman? Never mind. Over the last couple of
    years, he’s decided he wants to be the Heather Mallick of
    the right. Nobody pays any attention to him anymore, just
    like nobody’s ever payed any attention to Heather Mallick.
    Well, at least, nobody who matters.

  40. If you’re a (L)liberal, it’s OK to be a name-calling bigot? Is that it?
    Because I’m still waiting for apologies from various Liberals who have been insulting Christians and Pro-Life advocates for years.
    Oh, I forgot, it’s OK to insult Christians.
    What an effed up country we live in.
    Not to worry…Stephane will stumble again shortly and we’ll be laughing at the Liberals again soon. Try all you want, Bob Fife, the story is how desperate you and the Libs really are. Your dirty bias is showing.

  41. “Call CTV News Toronto at 416-332-7400 and express your outrage.
    I smell FEAR!”
    Called at 9:20. The ‘male voice’ on the other end told me to note the time as the ‘managers’ would be able to identify the call and would know about my objection. He also told me he was a manager but declined to identify himself. Or his manager.
    Told the unidentified male voice I found Fifes comment about knuckle-draggers offensive. He told me he was familiar with the comment. We spoke some more, and he again declined to id himself. After putting me on hold, no doubt for instructions, I was assured the outrage would be passed along.
    Not really sure how he knew I was from Saskatchewan.

  42. I love the sound of conservatives whining in the morning. It sounds like….hypocrisy.

  44. Sudden Memory Recovery:
    I keep thinking my personal ban on Canadian TV “news” started with that CBC crockumentary ridiculing Stockwell Day for his religious beliefs — just before an election.
    However, I believe the ban originated with CTV election coverage. In Vancouver, turned on the TV when the polls closed only to see Lloyd Robertson and confreres grinning from ear to ear — partying almost — exclaiming that [their party!!!] the Liberals had won another majority. I’ll never forget the shock of such blatant biased coverage.
    I consume NO Canadian MSM radio or TV news. Period. Without this blog, I just wouldn’t know about these stories at all. Not sure if that’s a good thing, but a mental health programme trumps all, eh?

  45. Another lost guppy…
    I love the sound of conservatives whining in the morning. It sounds like….hypocrisy.
    Posted by: truewest at April 4, 2008 10:03 PM
    hey skippy, pst… it’s still the evening.

  46. What hypocrisy, Truewest? The hypocrites are the leftists, what with their spewing such hateful epithets. Hurtful. Leftists must be thrown out of their virtual caucus, or else their Leader will be blasted by the MSM as all sorts of bad stuff…

  47. Ah Hannibal Lectern, have a look Smearella’s blog today. Now we all know he’s a bigtime Nazi hunter but now has taken on a new crusade, other lawyers. More proof libs eat their own.
    I just have one question about someone who gleefully trashes a lawyer who defends Nazi’s and Holocaust-deniers but never a word about lawyers who defend murderers, rapists or child molesters. Oops, that would be almost all the rest of ’em I suppose. Just wonderin’.

  48. To a degree, MND, yet recall that Plato said that:
    “The price good men pay for indifference to public
    affairs is to be ruled by evil men.”

  49. BREAKING!!
    Apparently Lukiwski voted against SSM. This apparently was unknown until now.
    Great research by the Canadian Press. I am in awe!!

  50. Rick, only leftards have the moral authority to define what hate speech is plus anyone challenging that is a hate-speecher.

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