Or, as Kathy Shaidle likes to say, “Journalists – our moral and intellectual superiors!”
(Great work, Richard)
Update: I’m told that CTV.ca has quietly cut the offending portion from the tape on their online site. Not that there was anything wrong with it! **** Update 2: Or did they? Others tell me the segment is now intact.
Unbelievable, really.
Everyone got their swords sharpened? Got your joints all loose?
Way to go, Richard. Thanks.
So what’s your point??
… no, there is no media bias.
Pass the Polysporin, my knuckles are raw from dragging on the ground again….
Brilliantly executed, Richard, thank you.
As Ralph Kramden would say “How sweet it is”. The best revenge I always say, is watching your enemy make a buffoon playing straight guy with their own mouths. Public hypocrisy by Politicians or the Media have become all to obvious. They sound like wooden statues with grass for brains, objectivity so suborned by social dogma, they don’t see the clown that others do in the whole theatrical act they being officious with the audience every night . Nor their unashamed bias. Its too funny!
CTV has not only hit bottom of the barrel its now digging under it for its own grave. The tactics employed in this anti Conservative screed, was just too obvious, if not embarrassing just watching it. They haven’t figured out yet, we know all the little hooks-dodges they use.
Its was so pathetic, like watching a puppy get run over. Lloyd Robertson looks like an extra for “Day of the dead”. Love the Vlad hair do Floyd. With Fife his Renfrew of choice.
Great post Kate ,made my week lol.
As emailed to the CTV news room and to be quickly delted I am sure.
“I am writing to enquire as to when we can expect Robert Fife to list, by name, all the “Knuckle Draggers” in the CPC caucus? The term “knuckle dragger” will be required in this story so that libel proceedings can begin.
If this proves to be unacceptable to Mr. Fife, when, then, can we expect a full and complete retraction and apology from Mr. Fife?
I will not bother to hold my breath for either of the above to happen, or for that matter, even a reply to this email.”
I just can’t watch Canadian news anymore, its just not worth the frustration and anger.
SO….Fife can call the Conservatives “knuckle-draggers” on national and international TV, but, at a private party, Tom Lukiwski cannot refer to someone as a faggot. I am speechless!!!
We should all be calling CTV and demand Fife’s resignation immediately. What’s good for the goose is good for the gander.
There’s really no need for the repeats…we are intelligent enough to pick out what Fife said…someone should inform the creator.
As for Fife? Not surprised.
Wrong, Griff, read Strunk and White: “Say it three times.”
WOW. Lovely! Will Fife have to apologize AND resign?
Talk about being offended and double standards: here’s a small sample from Xtra, the homosexual publication.
I find the views expressed here juvenile, narcissistic, and highly offensive. (Remember, we all pay the health care costs of these people. Lukiwski was definitely on to something. Of course, truth is no defence.)
From Xtra: “Why we fight alongside hookers
“Ariel Troster / Xtra.ca / Thursday, February 21, 2008
“The struggle for sex workers’ rights is our [lesbian, gay, bisexual, transgendered, two-spirited] struggle. Here’s why.
“One. The state has no place in our bedrooms. Neither do city councillors or police officers or vigilante neighbourhood associations. Any attempt to regulate or criminalize consensual sexual activity between adults [even if on public property] is an affront to all of our rights and freedoms.
“Two. Lots of queers work in the sex trade. I know at least three gay male escorts who work in the trade to supplement their salaries and pay off debt. A dyke friend sleeps with men for money and with women for pleasure, paying for her university education in the process. And a few of my trans woman friends sold sex to pay for sex re-assignment surgery, which was de-funded by the Ontario government in 1998. There are scores of stories like this in our community. And guess what? You probably know someone who’s turned a trick too. [Don’t YOU?]
“Three. Queers [dirt under their fingernails, or elsewhere] use the services of sex workers. Whether we’re talking about the closeted men from the suburbs who ‘pay for play,’ gay men who stuff wads of bills down strippers’ g-strings, or kinky couples who pay a dominatrix to administer a good flogging, queers exchange money for sexual services ON A REGULAR BASIS. WE JUST DON’T TALK ABOUT IT. [emphasis mine] But seeing as we live in a city [Ottawa Xtra] that seems intent on portraying all customers as predators, it’s about time that our community ‘came out’ and admitted that purchasing sex is not tantamount to exploiting women . . . ” (Feminists, take note!)
There’s more, including lots of pictures of muscle men with their hands down their semi open pants and on their bulging crotches, advertising such web sites as Squirt. (Google Xtra.ca and check out Pink Triangle Press just underneath.)
Oh yeah (Toronto Xtra, March 27, 2008), “Toronto police are launching a campaign to persuade youth to report homophobic violence.
“The campaign, spearheaded by Const Tom Decker — the force’s queer liaison officer — is being developed in partnership with a number of community groups and will be launched at Pride . . .
” ‘Our best bet would be to start as young as possible if you want to achieve social change. We thought why not start in schools. It’s aimed at high-school students and youth. Thirteen to 25 would be a safe age range.’
“Decker says the campaign will include posters and flyers in schools and in the queer community, and he hopes to be able to produce internet and television spots if the money can be found.”
If one’s looking to be offended, Xtra’s got something for you.
But the homosexuals of this country, many of whom seem to live on the fringe (which we all pay for), never seem to be “outed” like MP Lukiwski (whose story led nearly every CBC “newscast” today). I guess, like in “Love Story”, being gay, lesbian, bisexual, transgendered, two spirited, or . . . means never having to say you’re sorry.
I guess it’s only we heterosexual, usually white and Christian folks who have to do that.
I love the repeats. And consider that the national media has repeated the offensive 16 year old tape, oh… a thousand times today? I think Fife gets off easy.
I received a reply about my email to CTV, too bad it was from my ISP……..
“The following message to was undeliverable.
The reason for the problem:
5.1.0 – Unknown address error 550-‘5.1.1 User unknown'”
Barney Fife should resign and Oppi thinks he should as well.
I’m laughing my head off…
…even though I’m totally pi**ed off, as I have been for a day and a half, watching our two-bit MSM turn PMSH’s triumph in Buharest, at the NATO Summit, into a smut sideshow here in Canada because of a so-called “stumbled upon” amateur video from 1991.
Pass me my smelling salts.
Yesterday, on Mike Puffy Live, Fife was sounding reasonsable and said that Tom Lukiowski’s apology seemed sincere and sufficient.
A few hours later, he’s singing the Canadian MSM Chorus: LETS’S KICK PM STEPHEN HARPER’S BUTT.
It get’s increasingly tiresome.
Fife, Duffy, Newman, Boag, Van Dusn’t, Robertson, and the whole damned bunch of these unprofessional shysters need their own butts kicked and some kind of reality check: What would that be?
Maybe Kate McMillan, Kathy Shaidle and the rest of the Blogging Tory Choir.
And what would our song be?
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Beautiful just beautiful.
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In Canada we no haven’t had government for a long time. We have media gottcha. That takes up all the time of government and guess what? We are paying for this shit.
The stupid idiots in the media are too dumb to realize they’re ensuring a Conservative majority.
Fife and his cohorts must have been swilling too much Liberal wine and are showing the brain damage.
Fife can quit with the strawberry blond hair color and retire if that’s all he has to offer.
Most of us are tired of that type of National Inquirer journalism. They have a few buzzwords to put forward and someone feeds them the rest ofthe trash.
Beats me why we don’t have a few law suits coming from the decent people they’re trashing. Being in politics doesn’t give these bozos in the press a license to smear.
I’ll bet that little shit Fife has never kissed a girl.
Will Fife (or a Dipper) explain to us how those 16 year old comments are offensive to people who strutt their stuff half naked on the city streets? Have they no pride?
Oh wait…
Great work! The repeats were perfect. Anybody remember Max Headroom?
It’s interesting to see that old corpse of an anchorman, Count Floyd still able to chuckle long after his apparent physical death.
Fife’s comments must have been better than the morning transfusion.
Are there knuckle-draggers and social conservatives in Harper’s caucus who would like to impose their agenda on this country? Of course. So what’s your point?
Just called CTV Toronto head office news division and spoke to someone who coincidentally refused to give his name.
I expressed outrage that Robert Fife referred to members of the Conservative Party as knuckl-draggers. I asked what CTV is planning to do about this. The fellow stated CTV was not planning on doing anything and asked what I thought should be done.
I demanded an immediate public mea culpa and Fife be demoted or terminated. I explained to this fellow that this clip is all over the blogs and on YouTube. This is when he dropped his arrogance and became very uneasy. He then said he had to leave the line and talk to somebody.
Call CTV News Toronto at 416-332-7400 and express your outrage.
I smell FEAR!
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The Opposition has a point…
There’s no sense endlessly hashing this thing out… without resolution.
Let’s put the Lukiwski resignation to a vote in Parliament. Just to make
it interesting… let’s make a vote of ‘confidence/non-confidence’
in the government.
“Whaddaya say, Stef… you still ready to rock n’ roll?”
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No, actually, Lookout, it is not the case that many homosexuals live on the fringe. You hear about the ones that do because they do. You don’t hear about the others because they don’t.
Is it possible, I wonder, for people to have a discussion about media malice aforethought without having to always descend into overgeneralized, ill-thought-out tangents that constantly detract from considered discussion of any single topic.
The problem here is Canada’s media oligarchy malfeasance and the effect of that on the perspective of our fellow citizens. I would have thought that important enough to concentrate on. But no, people argue with idiots like Manny about trivial irrelevancies like the colour of the fraudulent faux-journalist’s hair. Super.
Kate, maybe you could put up a “buy a tv station” paypal button. The ONLY way the CPC will ever get balanced coverage is if we have a Fox news type of station.
Kate, you could be the program director
Manny:
Let’s – for the sake of argument – take what you assert – that there are “knuckle-draggers” in the CP caucus as true in that you mean people who have out-of-date viewpoints in the opinion of many.
Then you would have to agree that there are also knuckle-dragging proto-commies in the liberal, BQ and ND caucuses as well.
What do you think the reaction would be if Mr. Fife had said there were commies in the NDP caucus or the liberal caucus (in fact wasn’t Dion once a Marxist?)?
Would people consider that an unacceptably biased/bigoted position for a reporter – someone who is supposed to be even-handed – to take?
That is the point of people’s ire – that those who do wrong against those on the right are treated much more leniently than thos who do similar things to those on the left.
The point here is media bias; and in this case, one of the worst cases I’ve ever seen because it’s so insulting and blatant.
That’s the topic … not Manny.
More pertinent comment and less personal attacks would make Lucy West look less like a HR Kangaroo Kourt troll.
About the only thing that CTV still has going for it was that it hosts the CSI series. I can save lots of time by renting episodes without ads at the end of the season. This makes CTV totally superflous for me as there is absolutely no reason for me to watch it now. I stopped listening ot the CTV news some time ago once the anti-conservative bias became far too obvious.
During my internet wanderings today I somehow ended up on the Calgary Herald web page for the Lukiwski story and was a bit surprised to find that comments were strongly critical of both Lukiwski and Wall. As the story was still open for comments, I decided to post one and got a page indicating my post was “awaiting approval by an editor”. I’ve checked back a few times over the afternoon and no sign of the post. Yet another example of the MSM attempting to shape the news rather than just report it. For the record, what I attempted to post was:
The only thing disgusting about this whole affair is that both politicians felt they had to apologize. I saw the tape and saw nothing that offended me. What is very disturbing is that this tape, which was likely illegaly obtained, was broadcast without the permission of the individuals who appear on the tape. What Lukiwski and Wall should have been doing was suing the asses of the NDP who stole and then released this tape without getting permission.
Criticism of homosexuals seems to be verbotten now despite the well known health consequences of homosexuality. If one excludes IV drug users, >95% of sexually transmitted HIV cases occur in homosexuals. All venereal diseases are orders of magnitude higher in the homosexual population which is not surprising given that having several hundred sexual partners/year is considered “normal” in cities such as Vancouver.
Tommy Douglas, that NDP icon made numerous statements which would now be considered homophobic and was also a strong proponent of eugenics. I’m sure that if one secretly videotaped a drunken conversation among NDP politicians, one would easily get statements far more offensive than the non-event that the MSM seems to be covering ad-nauseum.
A more contemporary member of teh NDP is former Manitoba cabinet minster Joe Borowski who, according to Wikipeida:
“Borowski also published a series of works in the late 1980s that were criticized as homophobic. In 1988, he released a document that called for “all known gays” to be quarantined from the rest of society until the AIDS epidemic had subsided. He also published a work entitled Child Molestation and Homosexuality, the front page of which showed a middle-aged man attempting to lure a child for sexual purposes. Winnipeg AIDS activist and future mayor Glen Murray became a vocal opponent of Borowski during this period.”
(thanks to Chad for the information on Borowski).
The point Manny is that he is equating knuckle draggers and social conservatives with Stephen Harper’s caucus. Kinda like equating homosexuals with people who have dirty fingernails and spread diesease. Are there homosexuals who have dirty fingernails? Of course. The other instance is possibly true too, but for fear of getting a HRC complaint, I better not state it, or even make an affirmative statement to the position.
Point is, both Fife and the MP painted with a broad brush, but the MP is tar and feathered for statements made 17 years ago, while Fife is paid by CTV for his statements today.
Whoops. There’s no point, Dr. manny; we just want to see how many times a guy can say “what’s your point?”
Duffy. “There’s a large number of born-again Christians in that riding. When one reads the entire transcript, I would think a lot of people of faith would be concerned, not just by the references to gays and homosexuals, but the tone that runs through the entire tape.”
Pat Atkinson: “Oh, I think that’s true. There are sexist remarks, there are racist remarks, there are homophobic remarks, there are, ahhh, many remarks, ahh, we were thinking that, ahh, really, the only group they left out were first nations people. Ahh, but it’s, it’s disturbing, to say the least, and we have people on that tape that are involved in political life in our province — there were also remarks made against trade unionists in our province, aah, so it, it’s disturbing.”
Fife: fagget in quebecois slang
http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fif
I am pro gay BTW…. Often I wish i was gay myself.
As a supporter of the “knuckledraggers”, I take offense to Bobby’s comments. I think he should apologize AND lose his job!
How about it CTV
Vitruvius. Well said.
The problem lies in that the faux-outrage about the tape is naueating and the over the top comments being made by the “outraged” elicits similar over the top replies. Such is the way of the political world.
As I said earlier, the scandal for week 1, April,2008; time to gear up for week 2.
What do you think the reaction would be if Mr. Fife had said there were commies in the NDP caucus or the liberal caucus (in fact wasn’t Dion once a Marxist?)?
Would people consider that an unacceptably biased/bigoted position for a reporter – someone who is supposed to be even-handed – to take?
Not if was true. And yes,by knuckle-draggers I do mean people who have out-of-date viewpoints in the opinion of many.
I just phoned the CTV number and the person at the CTV National News room refused to give me his name too, “for security reasons”. I explained that just a first name would do, to verify, if I needed to later, that I’d actually spoken to the CTV employee on the phone at the time I called. No go.
I pointed out the huge irony of the Lukiwski/Fife situation, re disparaging comments being made about an identifiable group. “I’ll pass on your concerns,” the man said. I said, “Good-bye, whoever you are.”
‘Talk about an unprofessional, hypocritical outfit. Like the CHRC, the CTV news room don’t seem to have any procedures either . . .
Set aside the cultural and religious bigotry inherent in the term. It’s name calling, and dehumanizing. On that basis alone, it has no place in news journalism.
Exactly, Paul. The evolving partisan sound-bite gotcha mentality of what was once considered one of our valuable information resources presents a strategic epistemological problem for our society.
On the other hand, we already see some tactical approaches at hand. Never before has the traditional media been subject to post-hoc analysis as it now is, unless one went into the stacks. Newspapers were gone in days, TV in hours, radio in minutes.
Yet now we have the archives at our fingertips.
And the verdict is clear: They Are Liars.
Complaints to CTV will accomplish nothing. However, complaints to CTV’s News program sponsors WILL have an effect.
Pay attention to who advertises during CTV’s News programs, and then contact that sponsor – their marketing department specifically.
Things will change ONLY if CTV’s sponsors start holding them to account. Money talks.
Thank you, Richard!
And surely Fife will have passed the magical 40 year mark, so he will hold this opinion of Social Conservatives, no matter what.
At least that is the new instructive thought that many commentators have opted for today.
So let me see if I have the plot right so far.
Aunt Bee finds a tape in Opie’s room with swear words on it and turns it over to Barney Fife and then he tells Andy Taylor the sheriff all about it on TV and calls Opie bad names. I see a TV series here.
No you do not have it right.
This is not about a fictional TV show.
The is about media fraud. Our media. Liars.
Include the URL to the YouTube clip we have here – this is as cut and dried as it comes. “This material is objectionable, and your sponsorship enables production of this disrespect for elected representatives of the Canadian people. This puts your company in a negative light in my household…”
I think some pressure applied to sponsors to have them demand an on air apology from Fife would be entirely appropriate.
I love the repeats, too. Go Strunk and White.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=T17tRPxRWe0&feature=related
Note how the two are passing the ball from one to the other and back.
It seem as thought they are masturbating each others word, the orgasm being the hidden agenda.
Hmm, I wonder where Manny went?
I’m a bit slow sometimes, SO:
Were any gays hurt during the making of this party tape?
If any feelings were hurt (notwithstanding the irrelevance of hurt feelings) wasn’t the source of the hurting the release of this private tape. Therefore, aren’t the NDP and their MSM lapdogs responsible for any hurting in executing this egregious invasion of privacy.
And didn’t you just love Lloyd’s painfully obvious leading question: “So, Robert, do you think this is PM Harper’s worst nightmare?” INSTEAD of say, “Robert, do you think this will have a negative impact on the CPC”?
look, manny, you are the one who is promoting ‘consequences of your free speech’.
Fife spoke. The consequences are that he’s being criticized by many of us, as a bigoted, biased yellow journalist. That’s the point.
As for ‘knuckle-draggers’ referring to out-of-date opinions, how about the big government agenda of the Liberals? That’s out of date in Canada because the population is too large for the 1950-60’s style centralism. How about Kyotoism? How about universal health care? These are all items from the Liberal and NDP agendas and they are out-of-date. And the separatiste agenda of the Bloc? So, why are the ‘knuckle-draggers only among the Conservatives?
The point is, that our news sites and reporters are not operating in a professional manner but are bigoted and biased. Fife’s remark was outrageous, effectively branding Conservatives as ignorant non-humans. He’s an ‘authority figure’ in that he is authorized as a newsman, paid to speak in a public broadcast, as an authority on the political situation – and he’s defining our government – as made up of ignorant dehumanized people.
He ought to resign or be fired.