43 Replies to “Pink On Pink”

  1. Every time I check out one of those blogs (which is not very often, thank God), I get so creeped out I think I must be living in an alternate universe. What a bunch of freaks.

  2. One of the sites linked above uses conjoined twins as an example. The idea is that if one twin is murdered which subsequently leads to the second twin dying as well, then the murderer would be charged with two crimes.
    Here’s my hypothetical:
    Some conjoined twins do not have a symbiotic relationship. One twin is actually parasitic on the other twin. In this case, if the twins stay attached they both might die young. Let’s say at age 30. However, if the twins are separated, the healthier twin will live a natural life span but the parasitic twin has a high probability of dying during or shortly after surgery.
    Does the healthier twin have the right to request to be separated to more than double her lifespan?

  3. Lefties scare the daylights out of me!
    Ti-Guy leads the way with this little gem at Robert McClelland’s site:
    “That’s why there is a need for a good, tight enemies list: the leading lights among the Blogging Tories and other venues in the new media, the prominent figures in religious institutions, the so-called “family values” crowd, the rogue’s gallery of anti-feminist women in the media, the PR firms churning out cartoonish and insulting depictions of women, The University of Calgary Political Sciences Department…”

  5. As far as I can tell the argument they’re trying to make is that it’s time for women to stop being pushed around by fetuses. And that it’s war.

  6. reproductive freedom…reproductive freedom?
    keep your fu##in legs closed and you can have all the reproductive freedom you want!

  7. I’m going to go way, way out on a limb here and take a SWAG that around 50% of aborted lives are female.
    Wouldn’t it just be a great deal better for the feminists to see that only males are aborted? It would only take one generation to really turn the power tables then, wouldn’t it girls? In two generations, women would basically rule the planet.
    Regardless, I still refuse to conclude that women are not good long-term strategic thinkers.

  8. That old hippy website was rife with denigrating swearing. My English teacher always told us that swearing was a sign of laziness and/or a low IQ. These people certainly have no compassion for the young and innocent – do they step on kittens and puppies?
    I was very glad that the HOC passed Ken Epps bill, it gave the people of Canada one more weapon to fight murderers who kill people who want to live. It gave women (and men) choice – the right to have their baby protected by a law before it is born. I grew up watching men protect all pregnant ladies with tenderness and over protective (almost irrational) actions (I grew up among farmers and ranchers so these men were not panty waists!).
    I believe that this bill of Ken Epps was partially a reaction to the murder of his daughter-in-law and her unborn child. I wonder if those people on that old hippy website know about that tragic incident?

  9. That old hippy website was rife with denigrating swearing. My English teacher always told us that swearing was a sign of laziness and/or a low IQ. These people certainly have no compassion for the young and innocent – do they step on kittens and puppies?
    I was very glad that the HOC passed Ken Epps bill, it gave the people of Canada one more weapon to fight murderers who kill people who want to live. It gave women (and men) choice – the right to have their baby protected by a law before it is born. I grew up watching men protect all pregnant ladies with tenderness and over protective (almost irrational) actions (I grew up among farmers and ranchers so these men were not panty waists!).
    I believe that this bill of Ken Epps was partially a reaction to the murder of his daughter-in-law and her unborn child. I wonder if those people on that old hippy website know about that tragic incident?

  10. The language is foul in the comments on those sites. Really foul language from women too. The hostility is breathtaking.
    Which is not a good thing for the left. Married for 20 years with two daughters, I learned the hard way that big mistakes in logic get made by the most emotional. These lefties seem so spittle flecked emotionally……… if they are representative of the left the whole works is going to come off as complete a**es eventually.

  11. After cruising the old hippy site, I have gone from a social liberal to a social conservative. Absolutely breathtaking. Congrats to Ken Epp and the Tory caucus for passing this legislation. That sentiment has nothing to do with my social views.

  12. Well, I generally avoid this topic like the plague, but I’ll just point out my thought here:
    This is pretty much a useless bill. It’s probably part of an iterative strategy to normalize the concept of fetal personhood on the part of Epp. It won’t work, of course.
    Even if the bill goes into law, it’s going to do very little to sentencing, since jail sentences are served concurrently in this country anyways.
    The fact is, killing or beating a pregnant woman is already considered an aggravating factor in sentencing.
    If you want to lock people up longer, you need more mandatory minimum sentences is the criminal code. This bill is just fodder, both in proposition and in practice.
    Now that I’ve offended everyone’s sensibilities, I’ll be on my way.

  13. I think the bill will pass, and should. There are cases where a woman is beaten so badly that it kills the unborn child, but she survives. In that case the perpetrator of the crime could be charged with murder, instead of just assualt, and should be. What the anti-life people are really worried about is that females who are coerced into having an abortion will come back on the abortionist. There are a few young girls who have had an abortion, not because they wanted to, but because they were forced to by a family member, or a boyfriend.

  14. i can’t find words stong enough to denigrate anyone, male or female who thinks it’s ok to kill an unborn child.

  15. In the last few days i’ve been hearing updates on a variety of channels about a local traffic crash involving a pregnant woman. The announcers keep referring to the conditon of the “unborn child”. I doubt the newswriter is trying to make a political statement; they just realize how weird it would sound to report on the condition of “the foetus”.

  16. Ah, yes, one of your links makes reference to Bloc MP Raymond Gravel… Catholics do believe that once ordained, even one like Gravel is “a priest forever”, but it is disingenuous at best to refer to Raymond Gravel’s ecclesiastical status. He is, at best, what Catholics once referred to as a “spoiled priest”, as repulsive a prospect as soiled linen.

  18. OT, but,
    Isn’t it interesting that in a country of 37 million people,
    “hundreds” gathering to oppose the Afghan war is headline garnering news.

  19. I think I have a solution that will end all of this petty bickering.
    EXECUTE ALL MURDERER’S
    So, whether she was carrying a baby or a sack of potatoes, if someone kills her, kill the murderer.
    No more molly coddling of these scumbags, let’s just re-open the hanging tower in Kingston(it still sits there, on the edge of the Queen’s campus).

  20. I think this fact from the Angus Reid poll is very interesting;
    Women (74%) are slightly more in favour of the proposed legislation than men (66%). Female respondents (19%) are also less likely than male respondents (29%) to perceive the Unborn Victims of Crime Act as an attempt to recriminalize abortion in Canada.

  21. I like to say that for those who insist that, “Abortion is an absolute woman’s right” it was a travesty that their mothers didn’t exercise their’s.
    Another observation I’ve made is that all of the homely women (and orientation suspect) are on the “choice” side and the attractive ones are on the “life” side.

  22. Well there is an easy solution to the leftards delima, if they are attacked and that attack results in the loss of the life of their “Foetus” perhaps they could just tell the crown that the “Foetus” wasn’t a baby just a mass of cells ergo it had no legal/moral/attachment or worth to them.
    If I were attacked and my “BABY” died as a result of that attack I want the attacker charged with the death of my “BABY”. How dare the arrogrant left, it might be a foetus to them but I can assure you ask any pregnant women what is growing inside her and I seriously doubt they shall call it a foetus but a baby? If the feminazi’s unborn children are desposable fine don’t have the crown charge the assailant with a crime. How dare the left assert this issue is about abortion, how dare they demean the unborn nothing more than trash and if murdered in utro the mother suffers legally nothing. That baby is the mothers’ son or daughter not trash.

  23. I see the abortion issue as THE defining issue of hypocrisy for the left. Leftists are the ones who scream for compassion and caring and no violence and gun bans and LOVE…and then scream to be allowed to terminate the life of helpless little babies. Ah yes, the leftist logic.
    I will maintain that a rational compromise can be achieved between the opposing camps…allow the termination of pregnancy up to the point where a fetus becomes viable if removed from the womb prematurely (which is somewhere around 4-5 months gestation)…women still have “choice” over their bodies but it is time-limited. Up to that time, the fetus is COMPLETELY dependent upon the mother and it can be argued (with SOME basis in fact) that it is just an “appendage”. Beyond that time, the fetus should be considered a (potentially) independent life.
    How can any rational person argue that they have been denied their right to choose? Note the purposeful use of the word “rational”.

  24. all of the homely women (and orientation suspect) are on the “choice” side and the attractive ones are on the “life” side.
    ugly lesbians support abortion and bikini models ( it’s ok if they’re lesbians if it’s part of one of mike t’s jerk-off sessions though ) are pro-life?
    i’m continually astounded that many of mcmillan’s readers can actually find their way back here each day.

  26. Look, I’ve been pregnant twice and I can tell you, the two daughters I carried were NOT, I repeat NOT, me: They were themselves. One, in utero, didn’t overly disrupt my life for the nine months she gestated–but the other one sure did!!
    Mothers carry their babies inside their bodies to allow them to grow and thrive and prepare for life ex-utero. They are human beings from conception, despite what some stupid Canadian law says: thanks Morgentaler and feminist flying monkey squadron.
    It’s amusing to see the feminists–all three of them–tripping over themselves to sputter outrage that a Bill in Parliament may be passed which recognizes a biological FACT: fetuses are separate entities from their mothers.
    The feminist pro-abortion lobby (“choice” is a clever euphamism for pro-abortion) has always relied on lies about biological reality, to get their pro-abortion laws passed. Now that women are having the wool lifted from their eyes, most of them have no problem assenting to the REALITY that the child in the womb is a human being in its own right.
    If my child in-utero was JUST ME (isn’t that what’s wrong with the feminist schtick: me, me, me, me, me,…ad nauseum) then s/he couldn’t be born looking just like…him/her. Each of my children is completely distinct from me, though sharing, obviously, some of my physical and emotional traits–and my husband’s.
    I really am hopeful that this Bill passes, thus giving the heads-up-their-butts, living-on-another-planet fembos a reality check. They need it–and G*d knows, so do the rest of us who’ve had to put up with their destructive mumbo-jumbo and hi-jinks for far too long.

  27. Well, I’m not astounded that the hack snap shot taker finds his way here again and again. Seeing as how he has no work. And no traffic on his blog.
    Raymond Gravel, a Bloc MP and a priest said;
    he was “uncomfortable” with the bill “because the member putting it forward is part of a pro-life group, the Campaign Life Coalition, which in my view is a rather extreme fanatical group, when it comes to life.”
    “…when it comes to life.” Sez the ‘priest.’
    Life? There is just too much wrong with this statement, coming from a supposed holy man, who doesn’t obey his church.
    It seems he wants his and his fellow travellers bloody entitlement to murder unborn children up until the ninth month.

  28. I wonder how many of those people out protesting to ban the seal hunt could be found in a protest march supporting abortion.

  29. batb:
    Thanks for your testimonial.
    It is difficult for us of the male persuasion to articulate the exact knowledge that experience has taught those who have become mothers.
    For a worldview which purports to stand for reason against faith, the feminist side displays precious little scientific reason and promotes its brand of political science despite the overwhelming scientific evidence of biological fact.
    It is yet another example of how those who portray themselves as reasonable have a stance that does not stand up to the scrutiny of reason.
    I could get into other examples, such as global warming proponents, as to how the theories do not stand up to scientific scrutiny, but that would be off-topic.
    So, I’ll just thank you again for relaying the reality of your own experience.

  30. None of the feminazis will take you, Kate. You’re simply too stupid to bother with.
    I’m sure that galls you, doesn’t it? Keep seething, harridan.

  31. set you free: I really appreciate what you’ve said.
    In many ways, even though I–not being a fembo–do not discount men’s views on abortion (after all, without men there’d be no conception or “need” (sic) for abortions in the first place), it is important for mothers to speak up for the rights of the unborn.
    When you have carried a child within you and they kick you at the most inconvenient times, you KNOW this child is not you. When you’re throwing up four or five times a day, you KNOW this child is not you–otherwise, if it was you, you wouldn’t be kicking yourself around and you wouldn’t be making yourself vomit!!
    All of these “inconveniences” are nature’s/G*d’s way of preparing you for motherhood, for another little human being who will disrupt your life way out of proportion to his/her size!
    It’s a happy disruption, however, one I will never regret–one, in fact, that I am deeply grateful for.
    One of the really sad things about the feminist support of abortion is that many of the most vocal and activist fembos are lesbians who hate men and have never had a child of their own.

  32. I have a different take on the abortion issue – but it is based in feminism thought – as a independent woman (the feminists dream except that I’m on the right of most issues!), I am pro-choice and in control of my body. HOWEVER it is a right the comes with a huge responsibiliy. Namely – as a woman in today’s world – with the knowledge of how babies get made and access to a wide range of ways to prevent pregency (things that were not readily available when I was a young woman growing up abut 20 – 30 years ago), if you end up pregnant you are just not being paying attention (i.e. stupid) and you are not taking responsibility for your body and what happens to it. If you think that some guy that you have had casual sex with is going to step up to support you and the child – think again. All women need to take ownership of their bodies – which means making sure that you don’t get pregnant unless you are in a position to support and raise the child (without massive handouts from other taxpayers). Guess what? – you can have lots of good sex without getting pregnant. Should an unborn child be killed because of your stupidity and irresponsibility?

  33. Mclelland said: “seem to think a past victory on abortion should have settled the issue once and for all and it’s simply unfair that they should have to fight it again.”
    Great point. Nothing is forever, that is why on another front, freedom and more specifically at this moment in Canada freedom of speech is being fought for yet again. Many died for this cause in the past, let’s hope Ezra can win if without anyone firing a shop. Sorry to digress, but vigilance is paramount in any pursuit of freedom of any kind. There are always those who want to take it away.
    Although in the case of baby killing, that is not a freedom I can endorse. It is killing ..
    Once the fetus has a heartbeat it’s a live baby.
    If you don’t want a baby, don’t get pregnant. Here’s how …
    Keep your panties on or …
    Use birth control
    I know that for the oh-so weak of flesh liberals, the No 1 solution is pretty tough to deal with.
    However, even an idiot can take a pill or insist on a condom.
    The alternative is … have fun, get pregnant and have a baby. Love and raise it or give it to someone who will.
    If you happen to have become pregnant due to rape, fine, get the abortion early in the first trimester.
    The slightest bit self-control and thought can eliminate this insane desire for the right to choose to kill a baby. I believe that all you lefties out there can learn this too.

  34. The language used by some of the people at the links is reprehensible. And sorry, Kate, I won’t give RM the traffic so I didn’t click on the link to his blehg.
    These on the left are the people who want choice in how to deal with “their body”, but want to deny choice to farmers on how to sell their grain. They abhor the death penalty while protecting their “right” to murder someone WAY less able to defend him/herself.
    I sit at the life-begins-at-conception end of the spectrum (that is, separate from the mother’s life), so I suppose lefties would call me anti-choice. Well, I label them as anti-life. But let’s not get into argumentum ad hominem. (Any more, grin.)
    I have a **very** leftie friend who very recently lost her baby–miscarried about 2 months into the pregnancy. Now I’m just sick for her, and she’s in rough shape (emotionally) as well. As would be expected. I’m not going to broach the subject with her anytime soon, as right now it’s my duty as a friend to love and support her, but I wonder: how does she feel about this bill? I know she’s “pro-choice”, so does she feel she just lost a splatter of cells, or did she lose more? And if she lost more, then what of this bill, to her and to all lefties?
    It once again comes down to choice–the choice to stay pregnant. But the argument for the left turns into being anti-choice: they’re against the choice to keep the baby. They just want to have the choice to kill it. For me, that’s wrong.
    Paraphrasing somewhat (I think), someone once said that the right to swing my fist ends at someone else’s face. Well, I see an abortionist as a very large fist, and the unborn child the face. Bad analogy, I know, but I think it gets the point across. “Pro-choicers” would disagree with me, and I don’t think they’re going to convince me that their viewpoint is correct, just as I’m not going to convince them of mine. C’est la vie.
    I tend to agree with what ALW posts, since he makes a very compelling argument, that this bill will in no way change the status of the unborn. Frankly, I wish it would, or I wish some bill would be presented that would do that, but right now, abortion is a hot potato/political bomb. Too bad–since there’s no law about it at all in this country, why not talk about it? Are people that scared of getting called names like “bigot” and “Christian right-wing zealot” and so on? I get called those things from time to time, and I take it as a compliment.

  35. Lefties are funny.
    One remark I kept reading was that this law wouldn’t prevent the murder of pregnant women and would only serve to harass women.
    Yet they fall all over them selves clamouring for more gun control – to protect women – even though gun bans and registries haven’t prevented a single murder and only harass….(mainly) men.

  36. Perhaps if those on the left repeat enough times this mantra: It’s Not Capital Punishment, It’s Retroactive Abortion, they could see their way to hanging those who murder, among others, pregnant women and their unborn children. This would permit the unbunching of panties currently twisted by bill C-484, and perhaps even keep some heads from exploding.

  37. Regina girl…good to hear this from you.Hope there are others who realise that freedom comes with responsibility. Liberation should not make women ‘easier’.

  38. If you can, Kate, please warn us when a link leads to McLelland’s blog. I hate going there and kind of got a shock when I saw the back end of the jallopy with the BLAHG license plate.
    Blah, blah, BLAHG.
    Now, I’ll take a shower.

  39. “swearing was a sign of laziness and/or a low IQ”
    phuckin’ a, bubba.
    s t i n k y l u v i n . b l o g s p o t . c o m
    PEsky

  40. “I saw the back end of the jallopy”
    When I see a partial picture of a car i have a near obsession about figuring out what model and year it is. This is probably one of the few times i just surfed outa there; i already felt i had lingered too long.

  42. How screwed up can these lefties be? Now anyone who is opposed to killing unborn children is a “fetus fetishist”. What kind of scummy language twisting is that? So does being opposed to capital punishment make them “murder fetishists”?

  43. A good way to discuss abortion in Canada is to ask if someone thinks the abortion laws should be changed. If they answer no, ask them what Canada’s abortion law is.

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