53. Every one who (a) attempts, for a traitorous or mutinous purpose, to seduce a member of the Canadian Forces from his duty and allegiance to Her Majesty, or (b) attempts to incite or to induce a member of the Canadian Forces to commit a traitorous or mutinous act, is guilty of an indictable offence and liable to imprisonment for a term not exceeding fourteen yearsMore here.











Arresting the person or group who started this, and charging them with treason would send a loud message. Maybe nothing would come of it, but it would take months to straighten it out. And to think, they would have to pay their own legal costs, so they might not get any lawyer to take their case. Wonder if they are connected to taliban jack.
That would be funny, actually applying the law, and bringing the coercive power of the state to bear on those who richly deserve it. I don't think I have ever seen anything like that before, at least not in Canada.
If the seperatists were not charged what makes anyone think these slimeballs will be charged. The law in Canada is rather selectivel applied, re Caledonia, Gomery Commission, Uncle Mo, shall I go on?
I am afraid that the liberal stacked courts (including the SCC) will not understand or recognize the concept of loyalty, duty and allegiance.
If this ever sees a charge laid or the inside of a courtroom it is likely that enciting a mutiny, or being a traitor will be re-defined as Charter rights.
Remember the last referendum vote and the faxes sent to CF Bases assuring those posted to Quebec that they would have jobs following a Yes vote in a new Quebec military. I am pretty sure no charges there.....
Will these inciters be charged?
Guaranteed not, we are pretty good at allowing total free speech in this country even when explicitly criminal as in this situation.
But now, if they were to speak out against gay rights or same sex marriage at the same time, THAT would be different.
Like I said in another thread, their argument reveals a mindset that soldiers are baby-killing war criminals. Their ilk sees no benefit whatsoever with any military action for any reason, period.
The VanDoos have a celebrated military history as a fine Regiment that has always answered the call. That will not change.
Anyway, Libs now ahead according to Decima; maybe, with luck, they will force election in budget showdown in HofC and Senate.
Maybe somebody has to catch these spineless cretins and jam their documents where the sun doesn't shine.
In addition to section 53, there's:
"62. (1) Every one who wilfully
(a) interferes with, impairs or influences the loyalty or discipline of a member of a force,
(b) publishes, edits, issues, circulates or distributes a writing that advises, counsels or urges insubordination, disloyalty, mutiny or refusal of duty by a member of a force, or
(c) advises, counsels, urges or in any manner causes insubordination, disloyalty, mutiny or refusal of duty by a member of a force,
is guilty of an indictable offence and liable to imprisonment for a term not exceeding five years."
-- Criminal Code of Canada
Scum bags, commies & university profs .. Oh, and their mindless android students would say such things. But we excuse the mentally ans emotionally challenged in Canada
I saw a thing on the army forums and I'm surprised no one has mentioned it before. These letters were sent directly to soldiers. How did they get the addresses?
CBC and CTV should be named in this too.
the loony tunes would like to be charged so they get a public platform for their "cause" and to be made "victims"
Better would be to give Don Cherry 20 minutes of open CBC airtime to respond to these moonbats.
And while we are at it - have their charitable tax status verified. Time for an audit me-thinks.
I thought this comment on the linked forum was interesting and worthy of reposting.
"Imagine how you'd feel as a soldier in Afghanistan, you are talking to a local chief and his 'aid' looks at you and unflinchingly gives the address of where your children are sleeping. How well would that go down for you at that moment?"
Apparently the mail was sent to home addresses.
I think the NDP is long overdue for a public hanging.
Would love to see them charged, but my inner voice says 'Aint gonna happen'. It's much easier for a Crown to go after the gun collectors than after the smelly hippies, who will cry foul and quote freedom of speech.
Yanni wrote: "Scum bags, commies & university profs .. "
While there is often some overlap, the last named group is more diverse than you might think.
It's not a matter of whether or not they should be charged, but whether or not they would be charged. Loopholes are the specialty of groups such as these, in finding a way to avoid prosecution. In the article, it says that the letters were sent to "occupant" which when it gets to a legal stand would be decried as not being sent to deliberatley try and get a military body to refuse duty, because it was not specifically addressed to a military member.
Even though we all know precisely what they are doing, and should be charged, they won't be.
At times like these, members of the armed forces need our support, nothing less.
Words fail me in describing how utterly beneath contempt these leftist low lifes appear. While taking full advantage of every freedom afforded them by their betters, these craven, self-righteous little hypocrites harass the very people who protect those freedoms and who are attempting to bring those freedoms to others who so long for them.
That the initiators of this campaign should be charged and, if the facts confirm their behaviour, be jailed for a very long time, is beyond question. However, we also know that the completely effete liberal "justice" system is so utterly spineless that this will not occur.
Just once, I'd like to see these slimey little "peace" protestors show some consistency and courage in their convictions by staging a gay pride parade in the gaza strip or northern Pakistan, or by wandering into a Taliban camp and demanding gay and womens' rights. Equally, perhaps they could wander into a girls' school in Afghanistan and tell a class full of girls and their teacher that they don't deserve an education, and if the teacher gets beheaded well that's just the price of "peace". Will these spineless morons do it? Naaaaah.
Not surprised this took place only in Quebec...ny Uncles who served in WW@ said the draft resisters from Quebec were wide spread...dead heads they called them.
Nationa-socialist trash now dresses itself in peacenik clothing but essentially it is the same frocophone dead-head bolshi lot.
I hope Harper grows a pair and takes these turds down with a sedition charge...frig the quebec votes if putting up with pinko crap kike this is a condition of having them remain Canadians I say cut the ties quick before this bolshi crap is too entrenched in Ottawa.
I have an idea.....let's create a commie peace corp...enlist all these librano/moonbat/dipper types....send them to sudan/somalia/afghanistan....equip them with guitars, doves and flowers....make sure they are well versed in 'Kumbaya'....and let the f@#$ing idiots have at them....I am sure in one generation they would be screaming for some real men(and women) in uniform, with weapons, to protect them......BTW, between my brothers and I, we have encountered this mindset many, many times over the years.....GO ARMY!
These people should be charged.
I am sure they are hoping for it too; they would become martyrs for the cause. Yes, I understand there will be much grandstanding and CBC shockumentaries but ...
After they have had their 15 minutes of fame we can a)ask them what cause they are fighting for and b) throw them in the slammer with people who might not quite agree with them.
One of these a$$hats was on CTV NewsNet giving an interview. Admitting that she, and her group, are urging soldiers not to go to Afganistan.
Her admission in on the public record now. If I lived in Quebec I'd go make a citizen's arrest. That would be great.
These people are the Paris Hilton of political discourse.
I've asked my MP (Catherine Bell)to follow up on this. The traitorous people that sent the letters shouldn't be allowed to get away with it. However my MP is NDP (I didn't vote for her) and so the likelyhood of any action is slim to none. But I would ask everyone out there to contact their MPs and maybe one will have the intestinal fortitude to follow up on it.
Presumably, the inciters will be recommending flying the JOLLY ROGER over the Peace Tower as well?
Oh, I forgot that happened when the LIEberals were stealing from Her Majesty's treasury.
The Revolutionaries are on the march! Nothing a few GOOD RCMP officers couldn't fix.
Cheers
Hans-Christian Georg Rupprecht BGS, PDP, CFP
Commander in Chief
Frankenstein Battalion
Knecht Rupprecht Division
Hans Corps
1st Saint Nicolaas Army
Army Group “True North”
Talk Talk Talk but no action. Seems we have alllll seen that movie before. I have often wondered what the tipping/breaking point of our "Gentle Caring" Western society will/would be. Are we close? We're getting there. I just hope in our case Harper can gain a majority and lead the way, if he has the where with all, and bring this lunacy to an end. My feeling is he can't. Remember the numbers?
What's really annoying about all this is that those types are quick with the snitch call when they see someone else bend a law that they like. Believe it or not, the old-style hippies got a bye because they flat-out refused to use the cops to settle a score; they weren't hypocritical in that way.
Peter, it's very rare that I ever get to say this, but that's a serious insult to Paris Hilton's intelligence.
If I was closer, I would definitely March for the Troops, and if I saw whose anti-war protesters, as a citizen of Canada, I would go up and pop the biggest male I could find (would be funny to see them arrest a 5 foot 2 grandma type). The troops can't comment on this disgusting letter, but regular citizen's sure can, go to the Support the Troops parade, that will show people better than anything who we agree with.
What about a citizen's arrest?, or a petition for arrest?.
Why have the MP's(military Police) not arrested these people?.
Peter:
Luckily my MP is PMSH. So I did send him a letter and cc'd it to Stock, the General(ret), and the AG.
I'm not holding my breath, but it felt good to write none the less.
Leftists have made the term "treasonous" more vague than "terrorism"...
While there is often some overlap, the last named group is more diverse than you might think.
Just like all of those Muslims that are against terrorism. They are lining up around the block, waving their banners letting us all know that they are with us.
"If I lived in Quebec I'd go make a citizen's arrest. That would be great.
Posted by: Reid at June 12, 2007 8:02 PM"
Given the acknowledged unliklihood of anything happening through the "justice system", why wouldn't we also take a few friends and follow up on the arrest with some ad hoc "citizen's justice." Maybe its time has come.
Rob Breakenridge has one of the anti-war idoits on now on QR770
I e-mailed my MP and PMSH along with a quote of the Criminal Code.
I complained bitterly..........
It's all we can do for now
Between now and June 22, when they march in Que city, you can bet your whatever my MP will get a letter. Kate is the Canadian equivelent of Michelle Malkin. Imagine if someone did this with US marines. Let's knock some dick-in=the=dirt sda
Traitors? Mutiny? Loyalty to the Crown?
All that went out with the "old Canada", along with Dominion Day and the Lord's Prayer in schools.
Now we have "Canada Day" and celebrate our diversity. And how better to increase our diversity than by adding a dash of traitors and mutiny to the mix?
Celebrate!
In the last referendum one of the P.Q. officials sent a letter to the military in Quebec urging them to side with the province, against Canada, in the event of a "yes" outcome.
As I recall, no actions were taken by the Liberal government of the day against this clearly treasonous act.
Mutiny was punhsed by death wasnt it?
Yes Spurwing plover, treason has always been a most egregious crime and death is a mercy killing for people so hated by people who love their nation and it's citizens. I like your ideas on how to deal with these craven cretins Kingston Lad. It is not kinder than death but it is more deserving.
The one ray of light in this is that the twits have entirely misjudged their targets.
The Van Doos are a cheerfully murderous gang with a professional and bloody-minded approach to the job of soldiering.
I have been humming "Vive la Canadienne" around here all morning while happily contemplating what will happen to any of Jack Layton's Taliban chums who end up in the crosshairs of an R22eR weapon system.
www.r22er.com
P.S. Spread the word on the new marketing slogan for the Kneedippers:
The NDP - The Official Enemy Party of Canada
How about we take a look at the pompous little prick Denis Coderre as well? He's all knotted up trying to accuse the military, in his slimy round about way, of enabling torture by handing "detainees" over to Afghan authority, the same as was done when Liberals were in power.
They're playing the dumbest of politics, time to take them down.
Dippers/Socialists are the enemy of the people of any Nation. The NDP here in Canada are the same, the difference is they'll never wield enough power to take the country down. However, incidents like this being tolerated is proof they have made inroads and we should be concerned.
Our MSM is a huge part of the problems we face in dealing with the loony Left.
Sumbuddy, could you give us a breakdown of the interview, once completed. Don't have time right now to tune in. Thanks.
"Except, we believe we have a legitimate right to offer our opinion and information to soldiers. We don't think that is a crime. If they want to use repression against us, we will continue resisting because we oppose the government's policies."
A defining characteristic of leftwits. They are a law unto themselves. They are also positioning themselves as a 'resistance movement.' which is a typical cover for communist militants. In their lying speak "..repression against us.." reduces the law and its execution to illegal and fascist actions taken by their enemy - the government (and all of us who democratically elected them).
I have an excellent next mission for our army on their return - defeat the enemy combatants here in Canada. Hey, I'd sign up.
The western world is now the decadent and weak society that the soviets claimed we were a few decades ago. We can be thankful they didn't last long enough to take advantage of our current mental illness.
We no longer take our responsibilites seriously. We no longer put any emphasis on treason.
Our enemies will eventually pushish us for it. As the enemies of all conquered former powers did.
After Rome came a thousand year dark age. I bet the muslim dark age will last as long.
An english version of the letter and a pic.
http://rjjago.wordpress.com/2007/06/12/quebec-peaceniks-call-troops-cowards-and-criminals/#more-319
jw
So what are you saying, people? If these traitorous scum are NOT prosecuted under section 53 and 62.(1), then Taliban Steve Harper and the Conservative gov't. is at best derelict in their duty and at worst complicit in treason.