A Good Day For America

A great day for America, and Canada as the nothern border of Latin America remains the Rio Grande and not the 49th parallel.

I cheered when it was defeated.The political establishment has clearly lost contact with the people on this issue - left or right.

Go Fred Go

(Hello Kate, I see that you were in Dallas about the time I was wending my way to Chicago. (There is a huge mob trial going on that even goes back to Tony Spilotro, i.e., Nikki in the movie Casino.) Had I been around I would have tried to get in touch...)

I'm very proud of the conservative movement and my fellow Americans tonight. I really believe that this is a graphic demontration to Canadians about the desirability of elected Senators.

This was a titanic struggle and many of us were engaged in it every day. Had we not possessed the ability to threaten senators at the ballot box, we would have never, ever been successful. We were able to challenge an aristocratic Senate that saw itself as a British House of Lords in the 1800s. We were able to overcome the enormous influence of big business lined up against us. We were able to prevail against money, power, influence, and a political elite.

And we were able to do all this and champion real American ideas by real American people because of political power through the ballot box. These guys knew that we would hold their feet to the fire, and in the end they capitulated.

This has been once of the most daunting struggles the conservative movement has undertaken, and now it is totally clear that big business has aligned itself with the left. We have been protecting big business for years because conservatives are all capitalistic, but when it came down to it big business was opportunistic enough to disregard America's best interests and the needs of the American people in order to increase profits.

I hope that Canada can see the value of an elected Senate. Only then can the will of the people be expressed in the face of a powerful coterie of elites who feel themselves superior to others.

It's a great day for conservatives, America, and the American people. As you guys can see, the America that small dead animals believes in is still alive and still able to assert its will. Thanks to all participants.

I'm not holding my breath, Greg in Dallas. That idea doesn't ever seem to gain much traction here, although I sure would like to see it.

Dishonest and hypocritical, Thompson's post aims to score political points by trading on fear: fear of immigrants, and fear of the dreaded Castro, who supposedly poses such a serious threat to the USA.

Unmentioned go the names of Jose Posada Carriles and Orlando Bosch, for obvious reasons.

Thompson shows with this post that there is no low he won't sink to if he can successfully pander to the more pathologically paranoid sectors of US political opinion.

Shameful.

Stephen, in other words, 78% of Americans are pathologically paranoid. That would, by mathematical necessity, include millions of registered Democrats.

(Or was that 87%?)

Would you care to address the careers of Bosch and Carilles, Kate, particularly in the context of Thompson's accusations about terrorism?

Where does the 87% figure come from, by the way?

From this poll?

Only 13 percent of those in a CBS News Survey taken earlier this week said they supported passage of the bill. Almost three times that number, 35 percent, opposed it. Even more, 51 percent, said they did not know enough about the immigration legislation to say whether they supported passage.

If so, your comment about 87% of the Amercian population is unsupported by these results.

Dont rest on your lurreals they will bring it up again the evil CFR is behind it after all

Excuse me Stephen but the fear and paranoia routine are becoming really dull really fast. As a free people the Americans have the right to determine who comes into their nation. Canada doesn't have a very good record on this issue either and if you don't believe me ask any of the "lost Canadians" that our government refuses to recognize as Candians.

Personally I reject mass immigration policy being perpetrated by the elites of Upper Canada because their 'progressive' intent is to undermine existing social norms making it easier for them to hang on to power.

Uhmmmmmm....didn't take long for a moonbat to show up. Stephen? Are you a dipper,or an employer using illegals? Yes. We do have them,lots of them, here in canada(I refuse to capitalize anymore as canada is no longer a nation). To paraphrase...there are lies,damn lies,and polls. It will cost $1 billion to build the wall, which is a saving of $11 billion/year to the Americans. Yup. Illegals cost $12 billion/year. But then I guess saving the middle-classes' money is not a priority of dippers/leftards.

Joe and Justthinkin,

It would help your case if you could provide some facts.

"Elites of Upper Canada"

"$1 billion to build the wall"

Evidence, please.

I near fell off the sofa laughing when I read the Hotair piece last night about the WSJ.

"Just who sponsors Hot Air’s ad, and other similar ads popping up across the Internet, is unclear."

Did it not occur to the oh so crowd at the WSJ that JUST maybe someone out here in that interweb thingy might own a 300 dollar video camera?

To JP:

The northern border for Latin America is the 49th Parallel.

All you have to do to see this is cross the border and go to a banking machine - compare it with Canadian banking machines.
Latin America is pervasive in every city in the US regardless of location - it is not a Mexico-US border thing.

Concerning the border - I was recently in Laredo and El Paso. The difference was startling.
In Neuvo Laredo - I could walk across the border and back (as long as I paid my 35cents) without anyone checking my passport or my bag.
In El Paso, I was actually interogated, I had to show my passport, It was swiped. I had my bag with an apple and sandwiches x-rayed before I could re-enter the US (the only good news was that I did not have to pay 35cents to walk the bridge).

This showed me that border security was haphazard and inconsistent - and this is in Texas alone.

The US is just delaying - for possibly years - what has to be done. What has to be done is to force Mexico to be responsible for all their people and not use the US to get rid of their poverty problems. Because there already is a huge Mexican poplulation in the US that will support their people - illegal immigration will continue - and grow - and nothing - nothing - has been done in the US to address this.

Greg in Dallas said:

" ... because of political power through the ballot box."

Raymond Aron: "and the vote".

" ... the heart and soul of the unending human adventure: freedom of enquiry, freedom of controversy, freedom of criticism, and the vote."

http://newcriterion.com:81/archive/19/may01/opium.htm

Raymond Aron
& the power of ideas
by Roger Kimball

Yo, Stephen,"fear of the dreaded Castro"? I don't think so, darlin'. Strong feelings to be sure, but fear it isn't, unless you're talking about all those people riding on ricketty boats and makeshift rafts trying to make it to the Florida's shores.

"Meanwhile, the Wall Street Journal turns to "vengeful, vintage-nutroots conspiracy smears." "

- They ain't seen nothing yet.

With the presidential approval rating so low, and congresses EVEN LOWER (Well, done Democrats, how the heck do you manage that, so fast?) and frankly the "replacements" Presidential and otherwise being so...uninspiring, I think we're going to see a LOT more vengeful, annoyed, and enraged citizens expressing themselves.

That'd be the the "nutroots" left and right.

Of course, in Canada, we'll be supressed to greater extent, but still.

cconn,

I'm afraid you may be right about the Latinization of the entire US. A once-great nation that split the atom and put a man on the moon can't build a simple border fence or even remotely enforce its existing immigration laws. How a worthless nation like Mexico came to invade and dominate the hyperpower will surely puzzle 22nd century historians. Disgraceful.

The thing is - how Mexico has managed to offload its most impoverished class onto the US citizen.

Mexico doesn't have to provide any economic or social infrastructure for these people. No jobs, no housing, no public services, no schools, no hospitals. Nothing. It simply ships them off to the US.
There - they are employed in unskilled jobs, and, as illegals, are paid 'below the minimum wage' but actually above it - as they don't pay taxes. None.

So, they ship billions of money back to their impoverished relatives back in Mexico. Mexico doesn't have to take taxes from its middle classes to support the poor! They ship them off to the US - which provides all the social services for them AND enables these people to send money back home to support the relatives.
That's quite the deal for Mexico.

So, Mexico can concentrate on building up its middle and upper class - who don't have to pay for a lower class. Neat.

Meanwhile, the US taxpayer has to provide schools, hospitals, roads, etc, etc..for the 12 million illegals in the US.

IF these people were legal immigrants and paid a legal wage - and paid taxes - who would be 'out of the money'? Mexico.

Because Mexico relies on these people sending most of their income back home..to support the poor relatives.

Lets celibrate the 4th by holding our usial celibrations along with a THROW OUT THE ILLEGAL ALEINS

The fight against illegal immigation amnesty is NOT over yet....the president has a veto and Bush is as hot to trot on illegal amnesty as any ACLU bolshevik....something stinks in the Whitehouse and this immigration bill has proven that.

http://tinyurl.com/3566f7

Never have federal politicians seen the amount of anger from both liberal and conservatives that the amnesty/leaky border issue has raised. There was a groundswell backlash to the kid glove treatment of illegal Mexican invaders...still both parties in Washington pressed on with an amnesty bill.....why?...whose agenda were they carrying?

This is a perfect example of how modern statism in government follows internal agendas rather than the popular will directed by democratic process....and this issue has not gone away...if Bush does not veto ( and he normally would except we are too close to elections) the insiders of the Beltway are predicting the Dems or his successor will try to revive amnesty after election....because "its a popular concept with Washington legislators".

You have to drop all your preconcieved ideas of government and your misplaced government trust to ask yourself just WHY the government (all of it) is just so hot to pass law legitimizing illegal migration from Mexico...while at the same time making the northern border with their trade parteners a virtual Gulag with passport and biometric ID required for frequent visitors....seriously why do you think this makes sense to all so called partisan factions in Washington?

WLMR, you are so right when you say this is not over yet. I fear that it will never really be over. Mexico is under no pressure to reform itself, our business "elite" class will never loose its appetite for cheap labor, the Democrats will not loose their fondness for dependent voters, and an already substantial hispanic subculture will press continually to expand itself. Despite my satisfaction over the recent "victory" in the Senate, I am pessimistic long term. The rot is just too deep. Hope I am wrong.

Still waiting for comments about Bosch and Carriles, Stephen? I hope you weren't holding your breath. :)

Dawg
A possible reason for no comments regarding the two gentlemen is that their relevance to the post was not established.

Cheers

For those of you who want to follow up on the sordid little tale of one, Luis Posada Carriles, I suggest this link :

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Luis_Posada_Carriles

It shows the extent to which some politicians and people in general are blinded by their continuing hatred of Castro - ie Carriles is an enemy of Castro, therefore he is a friend of ours, no matter what he is guilty of.

Yo, Stephen,"fear of the dreaded Castro"? I don't think so, darlin'.

Actually, Louise, fear is exactly the correct word for what Thompson is trying to whip up, speaking darkly of the supposedly underestimated threat posed to the USA by tiny Cuba.

In fact, the record of official hysteria about Cuba goes back about as far as the Eisenhower administration: Thompson is just the most recent contributor to a sad tradition.

Dawg
A possible reason for no comments regarding the two gentlemen is that their relevance to the post was not established.

Sorry if I wasn't clear enough, JM Heinrichs, but the "gentlemen" in question would easily meet Washington's own definition of "terrorists." Bosch, for instance, was singled out as such by the FBI.

Meanwhile, Thompson applauds the US State Department's designation of Cuba as a state sponsor of terror, a designation that rests largely (according to the department's 2006 report) on Cuba's providing a "haven" to accused terrorists, and refusing to extradite some more of the same.

All of this while the US itself provides a "haven" for the likes of Carriles and Bosch, refusing to extradite them to stand trial for their alleged crimes.

Hence my reference to Thompson's "hypocrisy."

Apologies if it's still not clear enough, but I think it's hypocritical to condemn someone else for failing to meet standards you won't meet yourself.

Thompson was doing just that: accusing Cuba of "sponsoring terror" even as his own country--by its own definitions and findings--is harbouring the likes of Bosch and Carriles.