With the killing yesterday of a UN Peacekeeper in Darfur, it has become obvious to all that the UN strategy in Darfur has failed. The recent death is the latest in a series of killings that have claimed the lives of 18 African Union Peacekeeping troops.
Clearly, far to much is being spent on UN and AU military operations, and not enough on reconstruction which would offer jobs and hope to the Muslim militias who have been on a rampage killing other tribes. Military offensive operations have angered and upset Muslim militias, and now they have responded.
Furthermore, a negotiated settlement with Sudan's government and its supporting militias should now be considered. We should all sit down at the table of reason and discuss a settlement that will make sense. The shooting of the UN Peacekeeper is all the proof we need that the American inspired mission needs to be revamped.
The best "way forward":
1. Immediately withdraw UN and AU forces to safer regions of Darfur.2. Open negotiations with Muslim militias and the Sudanese Government.
3. Increase recontruction budgets by 1000%.
4. Set an exact date for the removal of all UN and AU troops.
5. Put in place a series of benchmarks for the tribes under UN and AU protection so that they no longer anger the Muslim tribes.
6. Reject all harmonization with the neo-con agenda.
Cross posted @ Cjunk
Astonishing! Who is the author of this peace of wisdom?
Classic! Bravo, CJunk.
Maybe the UN should replace the AU troops with Saudis and Iranians. The "reconstruction" would go a lot faster with all those non-Muslim tribes out of the way.
Oh, and get Jack bin Layton and his coterie of cultural equivalency MP's to do the negotiating.
What "Neo-con agenda"!?!?! we are over there partly due to lefty whining.
It took me a couple of reads to get it, but ... wow, that was sublimely good.
jobs and hope for the muslims,don't anger the muslim tribes, hmmmm, getting real stupid aren't we.
ROFL....great one cjunk...like Eugene didn't get it until I hit this line..The shooting of the UN Peacekeeper is all the proof we need that the American inspired mission needs to be revamped.LOL
Great parody, Cjunk! By using the Left's own arguments about Iraq, and applying it to Darfur, you really exposed the ridiculousness of their position. You really took it to them! One for the ages, that was! Hahahahaha!
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!
We should also consider sending them a few boxes of Tim Horton Donuts to show we care.
Darfur is just an abject example of why the UN should not be permitted to plan, run or administer anything more complex than 6th grade tours of their headquarters in New York
"Darfur is just an abject example of why the UN should not be permitted to plan, run or administer anything more complex than 6th grade tours of their headquarters in New York
Posted by: Zip at May 27, 2007 3:21 PM "
Are you nuts Zip??? I wouldn't allow them to run anything!!! 6th graders are to vulnerable to the crap the U.N. spews! Cripes. The Useless Nations couldn't even organize a one man line for a two hole shitter!!!
CJunk's post fit nicely into the "Update" here:
"Now the ball will be in Sudan's court"
http://www.damianpenny.com/archived/009531.html
Mark
Ottawa
"The senseless killing of an innocent man in the confines of his residence is beyond comprehension,"
This killing made perfect sense. The factions in Darfur do not want outside interference in their affairs. Unless the police are right and it was a "hot" burglary, chances are someone who disagreed with his presence in their country snuffed him.
btw, great parody,Cjunk. I would post one more "solution", #7: All foreign troops withdraw to their home nations, and let the warring factions sort it out themselves.
Should any of our "touchy-feelies" get upset about non-intervention, let them go over there as volunteer Peacekeepers, no need for guns, and show us all how it should have been done all along.
Quote:Darfur is just an abject example of why the UN should not be permitted to plan, run or administer anything more complex than 6th grade tours of their headquarters in New York (Unquote)
So brainwashing 12 year olds IS acceptable as a function of the UN?
It's a quagmire. Support the troops by sending them home.
Oh, and it's most definitely a civil war and therefore another lefty inspired reason we shouldn't be there.
I still can't understand why Layton didn't demand all RCMP be ordered off drug seizure operations after Mayerthorpe.
"Gunmen looted the home of the UN peacekeeper -- an Egyptian lieutenant colonel "
Jobs and hope? These wretched people have a cultural issue...it seems they can't distinguish right from wrong, good from evil...products of a civil society like syable jobs, policing and justice systems are a little too evolved in this situation.
Whoops - in cleaning up some duplicate comments by a commentor whose nick I can't remember, I accidentally got them all. My apologies, and feel free to repost.
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Truth is stranger than fiction.
"Layton said his party is concerned about what he calls an "aggressive"
counter-insurgency campaign being waged by Canadian forces."
Gee Jack, I'm just not sure a "two out of three Scrabble match" is
gonna get the job done.
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Check out this tripe from another liberal parasite in our senate:
http://www.canada.com/montrealgazette/news/editorial/story.html?id=3727c5ca-eff8-4c52-88b2-2a4cffdc5d52
And if you want to hear this blowhard with the swelled head push his far-left socialist values on a web page crafted by his grade-school granddaughter, visit:
http://sen.parl.gc.ca/ckenny/
we must be realistic
give unconditional surrender a chance
if there are enough rewards for aggression the aggressor will eventually have more than they ever dreamed possible and reject violence as counter productive
we have tried evasion and misnaming
we have tried meaningless gestures
we have tried posturing
we have tried pious platitudes
isn't it time we gave unconditional surrender a chance
with the victims dead there will be no more violence and we shall at last have a final solution
Jack Layton is a Socialist Internation sock puppet. SI has determined that radical islam is a good thing so tali-Jack will use any soap box the media will give him to seek the disengagement of the CAF from any conflict with islam. Jack doesn't realize that the conflict in the Sudan is islamic in origin.
7.) Shoot Omar el Bashir.
Does anybody remember Calhoun's rats? Basically Calhoun, a Harvard zoologist, found that if you crowd rats too much and don't give them space to roam out into, they replicate every human and other depravity imaginable.
The Khartoum gang, it seems to me, have found they can't roam out into Dinka territory any more: the SPLA, even without Colonel Garang, are well armed, decently organized, and shoot back.
This leaves northern Muslim culture nothing to do but turn in upon itself like crazed Harvard rats. There's something touchingly human about how the Muslims divide themselves into predator and prey along racial, Arab/African, lines.
To Alienated at 8:01PM
I think that you have misunderstood what Sen. Kenny is actually saying. If you have cable TV I would urge you to watch the Senate Defense Committee meeting aired on CPAC saturday evenings or better still read the committee reports issued at
http://www.parl.gc.ca/common/Committee_SenRep.asp?Language=E&Parl=39&Ses=1&comm_id=76
I think that you will find that Sen. Kenny is a strong and passionate supporter of a greatly enhanced and much more robust, war fighting, long haul oriented military that is capable of protecting Canadian and Western values and interests- not at all a socialist or even much of an Internationalist ( in the UN sense). He was a vigourous and articulate critic of past Liberal regimes and who welcomed the greater focus and commitment that the Conservatives brought to Defense matters. His complaint in the article is that PM Harper is practicing politics as usual instead of laying the groundwork prior to the next election that will prepare Canadians to give a specific mandate that will allow for $10's of billions more of spending and a greatly enhanced role for the military that will last for generations.
Please do not attack me as a Liberal syncopant for defending the good Senator( I suspect that I may even be considered a paleo-conservative), in no election since 1976 ( my first) have I been other than Tory.
My candidate for point #7
Recast the past so that what is remembered of our rhetorical stances of yesterday match our tropes of today ( as the Soviets used to airbrush out of republished photos those pictured who were no longer politically persona grata or because we used to say "minority rights now" or " end appartied now" or "end slavery" or "never again" etc. and as these are no longer applicicable so it should be forgotten that they were ever uttered in similar circumstance) otherwise we cannot proceed with a coherent policy.
But then, I am no expert
Sincerely,
Thanks for the comments, Robert Albin, but I think I'll stand by my opinion on the liberal senator.
First, let's get this straight: Stephen Harper is no toy soldier. This disparaging headline to Sen Kenny's article indicates that he's no better than Chretien, Martin and Dion, and goes on that "at least those Liberal governments were honest - they simply didn't attach that big a priority to the military."
Seems to me that the liberals were in the business of stealing our money, as witness the Adscam fiasco, the HRDC boondoggle, the Gun-Registry scam, the cancelled helicopter purchase, the submarine purchase that sank, the patronage appointments to the judiciary, senate & civil service, developing the Culture of Entitlement, and on and on, ad nauseam. And they chose to steal the taxpayers blind at every opportunity, even cutting the military's budget allotment because they were so utterly greedy that little taxpayer money was left for a military presence in Canada.
Sen Kenny makes the bold claim that the current government, which chose to formulate the bold plan of resuscitating the military in its 1st year in office, is lacking in vision.
What utter nonsense. The liberals claim to have a grandiose "vision" for this country in all essential aspects.
Let's have a look at what the good senator loves about being a liberal. The former government chose to alienate our neighbour and chief trading partner the USA by verbally abusive comments by liberal ministers, PMJC, even Chretien's nephew in the press and TV. It also signed the scam we know as the Kyoto Protocol without realizing the trap the EU and the developing Far East had sprung on them. Vision? Liberals have vision?
The only thing the liberals were ever good at was making promises. Big, expansive pie-in-the-sky promises. Empty promises by and large, but what the hell... keep telling the sheeple that the natural governing party had the vision, had the plan, knew the priorities to implement, if only they could stay in power for another term, with a majority so they could actually do what they promised. Only they never did.
Sen. Kenny actually says: "the prime minister angrily denounces anyone he deems to be undermining the efforts of our troops in Afghanistan, while he quietly picks the pockets of Canada's future military to pay for the Afghanistan mission."
Is this guy serious? The present PM is "picking the pockets of Canada's future military" to maintain the Afghanistan mission that the previous regime got us into? Of course, if (god forbid), Dion was the present PM, it wouldn't be picking any pockets, simply having a great vision beyond the scope of conservative intellect?
Sen. Kenny is just mad at Harper for wasting all that money on the military when it should have gone to proper Liberal programs. Like Adscam.
What bothers me about quotes by Kenny et al, is that, Liberals screwed this or that up for over a dozen years, got themselves booted from power in good economy with no overriding issue. Then they have the arrogance to says CPC destroying country, in less than two years, and we must bring back Libs who will fix everything. You know the bunch that, for what they couldn't screw up, they just stole and lied.
As Alienated said, Libs screwed military big time, and made whatever promises they felt were necessary, because they didn't feel they had to keep them anyway.
Anyway, I reject Kenny's statements categorically, though I have some respect for his views. Like the enviro file, you can't fix the military after a "decade of darkness" overnight. Having said that Harper's group still has taken more action on file than Liberals did in entire mandate, again like enviro; though that isn't that hard, considering Libs did nothing on both files, except to make things worse, or gain political points with sound bytes implying our soldiers are war criminals.
That's why they're unelectable right now. They should look in the mirror to see the problems, rather than blaming it on Harper. They can't because they have no money, no leader and no policies, thus no power (from their perspective), and it's making them crazy.
My President is killing me, now he is gona fix Darfur and the US/Mexico Border is still wide-open.
Un-Believable !
Alienated, Phantom, Shamrock I would totally share your distain for this particular Liberal Senator if I thought your characterization of his stance was accurate, however I do not. As I said, read the various reports that his committee has published over the past years. They are well researched, broadly sourced and very thoughtful; also scary as hell. His basic point is that the forces have been driven so far into the ground ( and he points his finger directly at previous Liberal goverments for this mess) that it will literally take decades to recover, decades because recruitment must rise, equipment must be bought, maintained, replaced and widely available for training ( not warehoused in some arsenal somewhere because it would be too expensive to replace after some training mishap) and decades because thats how long it takes to prepare senior NCO's and mid-ranking officers and their own internal culture/morale and it will take decades and concerted attention to change the mindset of the beaurocratic sclerosis of the Defence (especially the civilians) Establishment in Ottawa. I doubt that his reach extends to writing his own headlines and his own party ignored him as a Cassandra so both of those are unfair cops. I happen to share his basic plaint about this and previous governments; Defence is too important to be relegated to a second order priority for the nation. It needs at least the attention and care (indeed more) and budget that we now lavish on Health or enviroment. And that any delay in getting this message out, by the very highest levels of government, is a failure of leadership.
Sincerely and with respect,
Bearing in mind that I am no expert,
Robert Albin