The Weather Channel’s most prominent climatologist is advocating that broadcast meteorologists be stripped of their scientific certification if they express skepticism about predictions of manmade catastrophic global warming. This latest call to silence skeptics follows a year (2006) in which skeptics were compared to “Holocaust Deniers” and Nuremberg-style war crimes trials were advocated by several climate alarmists.
The Weather Channel’s (TWC) Heidi Cullen, who hosts the weekly global warming program “The Climate Code,” is advocating that the American Meteorological Society (AMS) revoke their “Seal of Approval” for any television weatherman who expresses skepticism that human activity is creating a climate catastrophe.
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Cullen’s call for decertification of TV weatherman who do not agree with her global warming assessment follows a year (2006) in which the media, Hollywood and environmentalists tried their hardest to demonize scientific skeptics of manmade global warming. Scott Pelley, CBS News 60 Minutes correspondent, compared skeptics of global warming to “Holocaust deniers” and former Vice President turned foreign lobbyist Al Gore has repeatedly referred to skeptics as “global warming deniers.”
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Cullen’s call for suppressing scientific dissent comes at a time when many skeptical scientists affiliated with Universities have essentially been silenced over fears of loss of tenure and the withdrawal of research grant money. The United Nations Inner Governmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) process has also steadily pushed scientists away who hold inconvenient skeptical views and reject the alarmist conclusions presented in the IPCC’s summary for policymakers.
There’s that “consensus” we keep hearing about.
Update – A challenge for Al Gore – declined;
Al Gore is traveling around the world telling us how we must fundamentally change our civilization due to the threat of global warming. Today he is in Denmark to disseminate this message. But if we are to embark on the costliest political project ever, maybe we should make sure it rests on solid ground. It should be based on the best facts, not just the convenient ones. This was the background for the biggest Danish newspaper, Jyllands-Posten, to set up an investigative interview with Mr. Gore. And for this, the paper thought it would be obvious to team up with Bjorn Lomborg, author of “The Skeptical Environmentalist,” who has provided one of the clearest counterpoints to Mr. Gore’s tune.
The interview had been scheduled for months. Mr. Gore’s agent yesterday thought Gore-meets-Lomborg would be great. Yet an hour later, he came back to tell us that Bjorn Lomborg should be excluded from the interview because he’s been very critical of Mr. Gore’s message about global warming and has questioned Mr. Gore’s evenhandedness. According to the agent, Mr. Gore only wanted to have questions about his book and documentary, and only asked by a reporter. These conditions were immediately accepted by Jyllands-Posten. Yet an hour later we received an email from the agent saying that the interview was now cancelled. What happened?
TWC; delete. Weather nazi’s.
Quick, someone email the link to Paul Hunter of the CBC! Oh, right, bad idea if you really want news to make it to the public here in Canada.
“It is the characteristic of the most stringent censorships that they give credibility to the opinions they attack.” –Voltaire
Jeezus…this crowd would make a Salem puritan blush.
So much for scientific method. Welcome to the Church of Climatology….please check your sorrells at the door.
I gotta go….Pope Suzuki is issueing an edict.
Syncro
Who would have ever thought that the Weatherman would be involved in the biggest Cult the world has ever seen !!!
But, it makes, sense. Not the Kyoto Hoax, but the how the Cult came to be. All the ingredients are there though;
Take a cause, any cause, especially a ‘Guilt-Trip’ cause. The environment is a good one. It really works.
Find a rallying point. Doesn’t have to be real, just something to hang your hat on. ‘Man damaging the climate is a good one’.
Any good story needs a Vilian. Oil companies are always a good pick. Too sucessful.
It is best if it is hard to disprove. Doesn’t matter if it is hard to prove also. Just ignore them. (Just like Al Gore won’t respond to chalenges to debate AGW.)
Introduce a coming doom. End of the world is always a good one. Has never worked but that’s ok the press likes it.
Get the media onside. That’s always easy, they like blood.
Always claim the doom is coming, not quite here but coming. Gore says we have, what, 20 years?
Pick a Mesiah, anyone, A Gore or a Suzuki will do.
Saturate with propaganda. A Preacher will do but the media is better.
When others point out that all the other Hoaxes didn’t end the world before, just keep saying this time it is different.
Keep changing the theme as needed. Suzuki himself did that just the other day on our own Canadian, The Weather Network. Said it is no longer ‘Global Warming’. The new catch phrase is ‘Climate Change”. Next ace will likely be ‘Climate Injustice’. Has a nice guilt ring to it.
Mix all these incredients up and stir. Be ready to be exposed, as all Cults eventualy are, and quickly go on to the next one.
THE WEATHERMAN-CLIMATE END OF WORLD CULT is better than any of the previous cult ideas.
And just think, they don’t have to pass the hat around during the ‘Brimstone and Fire’, Mo Strong wants the United Nations to tax us all to keep his ‘Religion’ viable. Simply amazing !!!!
There is no way that a rational person would react this way to some healthy skepticism. This pretty much seals the deal that the folks advocating manmade global warming are making all this crap up.
I wish Harper and the Cons would just come out and say that it’s a bunch of bull. They’re only giving these morons credibility. Mind you, Harper may be gaining votes in Eastern Canada with this crap but it’s just making me agree more and more with the Western separatists.
johnboy read the cbc website article “U.S. urges ‘fivefold expansion’ in Alberta oilsands production” note the phrasolgy “But the current extraction of oil from the tarsands results in the spewing of millions of tonnes of greenhouse gases into the atmosphere: it’s already the biggest source of new greenhouse gas emissions in Canada”
I for one am sick of this BS and no longer support a union with Canada. This Albertan wants out and I will be doing my best to promote the New Republic of Alberta. Let the eastern bastards freeze in the dark! To hell with the latte socialists of eastern Canada!
Dr. Chris de Freitas, as respected climatologist from the University of Auckland stated several years ago that Kyotoism was a substitute for religion. It was just a joke at the time.
Now the doomsday clock has been cranked closer to midnight. Non-believers are compared to nazis. The MSM is flooded with stories connecting every adverse weather event to global warming. McCarthyesque jihads to professionally ostracize dissenters are being organized.
When will scientists like Dr. de Freitas and Dr. Tim Ball (a brilliant and engaging man) become the targets of academic witch hunts and smear campaigns?
Galileo is in heaven shaking his head in dismay.
One of the other Greg’s
Easy… the fight isn’t over yet. On the other hand if Celine ever becomes PM I’m with ya. I’m pretty much sick of the latte attitude that managed to take 1.5 out of my ass in taxes in the last 30 years and considers my efforts easy money”.
I will abdicate the pen for the sword if times call. We shall see what is required and act accordingly.
Syncro
Imagine what the history books will say about this hoax and the cult followers of it. The fact this person want all dissent banned is more than enough proof they are the ones lying, and full of hot air. Maybe it is that hot air they want to sell to china, or buy from china. Thank God for SDA and others where the truth is getting out. Wonder if one should take out a huge mortgage for 25 yrs, and not make payments because the world will end in 20 years. We are being attacked by global warming, according to the doomsday clock.
Anyone watch lmotp tonight. Never heard one promo on cbc all week. Will wait for the no. of viewers and ratings tomorrow.
If she is so convinced – perhaps she should put her reputation on the line and be the first to publically state that the term global warming “theory” be changed to global warming “fact”.
Greg, I saw that on the CBC news earlier this evening. I was almost surprised when right away the evil spectre of global warming and greenhouse gasses was raised. I even heard someone on the radio connecting the cold weather in California with global warming saying that AGW was causing “volatility” in the climate. We could have 1000meters of glacier in Calgary and they would say it’s from AGW.
Anyway, I feel like all the people willing to work for a living should start up their own country (much like in Atlas Shrugged) and leave all the Cling ons to their own devices.
Mary T
I watched LMOTP and apparantly it was a rerun of the launch. It seems that the next new episode will air on Jan 31.
I’m thinking they need some time for rewrites.
Other than the “privleged white women”…”Islam is democracy” and the mack truck irony of “he who is without sin cast the first stone”….It was awesome……in a 200 car train wreck sort of way.
I expect the propane cars to leak and explode in short order.
Syncro
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Check out today`s National Post, Peter Foster has a column about Celine called “Inside Dionomics”….Priceless!
The claim to so-called “scientific consensus” is a fallacious argument. It is, in essence, “argumentum ad populum” — somethng must be true because many people believe it to be true.
There was a time when the majority of leading minds overwhelmingly believed the Sun orbited the Earth. That didn’t make it so, as illustrated by the case of Galileo.
More importantly, science is not a democracy, and cares not a bit for “consensus” — which, on this issue, doesn’t actually exist. Objective reality manifests itself regardless of popular approval.
From this, it follows: Those who seek to ostracise anyone that dares contradict their cherished beliefs, must clearly be more concerned with the popularity of those beliefs, than the truthfulness of those beliefs.
This ramping up of eco doom mongering is not surprising. The post 60’s radical leftism that has infected the west has enjoyed an unchallenged monopoly on their anti establishmentary rhetoric through 4 decades of favorable treatment in the media (ably assisted by friends in the judiciary).
With the growth of alternative media (mainly the net)gross factual misrepresentations and outright propaganda can now be challenged and exposed and disseminated immediately to a global audience (with links as backup).
Like any bully loudmouth who is challenged, the response is not to agree that his position has been invalidated, but to escalate his arguement with personal attacks, threats and innuendo.
Bad in that it polarizes in the short term, but good in that over time the radicals expose themselves for what they are via their ever more shrill and strident attacks which accelerate their already quickly diminishing credibility.(please see Dan Rather and CBS for recent example of ideology first damn the facts)
We (non leftist idealogues) just need a little more representation in the MSM. My wish is that we get Fox in Canada with Conrad Black as the host of Fox News Sunday Canada.
Anybody remember when underarm deodorant (CFCs, for the ignorant) almost destroyed the ozone?
Funny how a few molecules of bleach can have a profound effect on something as vast as the atmosphere, eh?
“We (non leftist idealogues) just need a little more representation in the MSM. My wish is that we get Fox in Canada with Conrad Black as the host of Fox News Sunday Canada.”
My vote is for Ezra Levant or Mark Steyn as host. 🙂
Why not Ken, it’s not as if any host of a FOX-like show (full of BS and vitriol) would be paid much attention to here in Canada.
Harper’s neocon dictatorship will be remembered as a temporary abberation, anda laughing stock in Canadian history, by the sane (left and centrist)portion of the population.
Nasty people these global warmers! Rigid ideologues usually are though…
Dear Mr. Quantum Leftist Centrist:
Please define Centrist. In June of 1999 the then Majority Liberal government of Jean Chretien pushed through a vote in Parliament supporting the definition of marriage as between one man and one woman. That is the position of most MPs in the current Conservative government (and many Libs). Were you calling Mr. Chretien insane at the time?
Libs ratified Kyoto in 2002 and then proceeded to do nothing about it, increasing emissions by 35% under their watch. Insane? I agree!
I think you stumbled across the wrong board. Globe and Mail comment section is about 180 degrees to the left of here. Your brand of empty headed anti Harper rhetoric will find lots of supporters over there. However you won’t get the satisfaction of interaction as the free speech Globe does not allow instant comment posting. Maybe that’s why you are here?
In 1989 that great soothsayer and very informed, for hollywood, Ted or” Dud” Danson, never new the difference, stood on a podium, as all hollywood morons do and stated, we have ten years to save this planet. Yea well DUD it is still here, not like your tv career. We were all gonna die in 1999 and we are still, here, susucki and his ilk think wer’e all gonna die, wish he would lead the way, well get at it you losers because mother nature always makes fools out of Lieberals, it will always snow after a weather report about the driest winter ever and it will always get freezin ass cold after a moron from hollweird tells you about global warming.
Holy Crap, even American evangelicals are falling for the lefty CC doomsayers. It’s the end of the world! So where does this leave you, Ward, you’re sandwiched by the loonie left and the crazier flat earthers.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/16677104/
Just out of curiosity, do you believe humans and dinosaurs co-exsited at the same time?
Btw, you haven’t addressed whether or not you believe anthropogenic CFCs could affect something as “large” as the amtmosphere.
P.S. Is SSM or the LPC’s CC policy really how you define a lefty?
Mr. Q. Liberal is incorrect. “Bleach” is the common name for sodium hypochlorite, hydrogen peroxide, and a number of other chemicals including sodium perborate, sodium percarbonate, sodium persulfate, sodium perphosphate, sodium persilicate, their ammonium, potassium and lithium analogs, calcium peroxide, zinc peroxide, sodium peroxide, carbamide peroxide, chlorine dioxide, benzoyl peroxide, &c, none of which are chlorofluorocarbons (or haloalkanes in general), none of which are used for deodorant, and none of which have been suggested as significant climate-affecting agents.
Quantum, please clarify how it is that an intelligent, moral, and honest leader will become the laughingstock of Canada. The liberals have been lead by a frenchman with a flower and a penchant for giving westerners the finger and running the country and Alberta into the ground, a 2 month dud, a thieving cretin that could speak neither french or english, an heir to the throne that could barely decide which socks to wear without consulting the polls, and now a hippie elitist snob, that also can barely speak english.
The only common denominator among them all is that they all came from Quebec and had a firm belief that they were entitled to spend other peoples money as they saw fit.
It would seem to me that the only laughingstock will be the rubes that continued to vote for these thieving morons.
Who is the dictator-samples, I will appoint 103 women to be candidates in the next election, Justin and Kennedy will not be my star candidates in Que. Work for me and not for Canada or get out (Khan). Get out to make room for my star candidate (Lapierre). I will rape Alberta, I will have sustatinble economy, I will have a profitable government, (return of adscam) I want group action. When I am pm I will etc. Even the new money he is going to mint, me-gatons, my dream team. Those orders sound like a dictator to me. Has anyone heard him say the liberal party will, plans, wants, or mention the liberals by name. He is even putting out posters etc with green instead of red. He must be ashamed and embarrassed to use the word liberal or liberal party. Not to worry, we will not forget he was appointed to cabinet and the privy council without being elected or appointed to the senate, we will not forget he can’t speak english, we will not forget he has dual citizenship, we will not forget adscam, corruption, theft. And, we will not forget he is Chretains puppet.
Some of his shadow cabinet has been named, and I see he must have heard from Sask voters as Goodale is still there. It is too bad for the liberal war room, and great for the conservative war room that every attack they were planning can be turned against dion, as he did it first. They can’t say anything about Fortier. The liberal senate, by blocking most bills, has shown the public that PMSH war right when he said it needed to be reformed, and if he mentions it next election voters will pay attention.
As for the comments in the g&m, there seems to be more and more published that are anti-dion, mostly by non subscribers. History will be kind to Harper, but martin and chretain will be shown for the corrupt politicians they were/are, and PET will be vilified for what he did to Canada.
The world’s a big place, you can always find someone on either side of an issue saying something a bit silly. Kate’s found one today and undoubtedly she’ll find another one before too long.
Anyone catch James Travers’ “opinion” in today’s Toronto Star? – “A year later, PM’s promises not worth much” http://www.thestar.com/News/article/172165
It amazing that his whole focus is so twisted, that I truly believe he has outed himself as Liberal hack.
And this man appears on QP with Janey and on CBC’s Politics with another old hack, Don Newman. Can anyone actually respect his opinions – ever?
In a Y2Kyoto world,the price of gas goes down while the price of orange juice goes up.
[Bad Spanish accent]No one expects the Climate Inquisition!!!![/Bad Spanish accent]
It was my misfortune to catch Jim Travers on Don Newman’s Politics last night (usually no time or inclination to watch Don but when you’re stuck in bed with a nasty respiratory bug…).
He made the inane comment that Prime Minister Stephen Harper is “a one-man band” as a precursor to a slight of PMSH and his government.
Gosh, Mr. Travers, IF PMSH is a one-man band, he’s a Superman and doing a damned good job. Who would have thought that ONE MAN could run, so well, a country as complex and fu**ed up as Canada? But he’s doing it, is he, Jim Travers? ‘Backhanded compliment, if you ask me.
On the other hand, what a stupid thing to say. PMSH is a very effective leader, that’s all. He’s got discipline in his Caucus and actually knows how to delegate. It’s just that his Cabinet and Caucus members don’t go running to “their buddies” in the MSM, the way the Libs did, and Jim Travers and co. are miffed.
Well, too bad, Jimbo. You’re no longer on the inside track and it’s galling, isn’t it?
Boy, I’d love to see Suzuki exposed as the charlatan Snake Oil salesman he is. The CTV has one thing right: On their Web site, they bill Suzuki as “an environmentalist, journalist, and author.” They haven’t billed him as “a scientist,” and they’re his friends.
I don’t think Suzuki’s done any real science in years. He’s Johnny One-Note and the note’s going flat.
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AQL ‘do you believe that humans and dinosaurs lived side by side’? They must have because we all know human activity is causing global warming and we also know there was global warming at the time of the dinosaurs–therefore, unless GW was caused by mastadon farts(as stated by Ralph Klein) there must have been humans then?
I was thinking that too, Zip. A three-part history of Monty Python’s Spanish Inquisition sketch is available here – youtube.com/watch?v=zO68fUMWx3g – and the similarity is striking. If I may:
“Nobody expects the trough-feeding fear-monger’s inquisition. Our three main weapons are global cooling, population explosion, and running out of energy. And global warming. Our four, our four main weapons are… Damn, I’ll come in again.”
Zing!
More evidence of a Kyoto Kult.
Trofim Lysenko, call your office.
Actually, my last comment was a bit misleading. I meant to phrase it that your post is more evidence of what I was talking about a few days ago.
Sorry Kate.
Of course these environmentalists have whipped themselves into cult frenzy. As is usual in cult fiction they are into the Doomsday countdown.
What is it costing us to have Dufus Suzuki yakking on CBC?
It seems the whole environment cause celebre has been neutered since all parties are on the same bandwagon. It’s come down to the kiddie stuff, “we can do it better than you can, nah, nah, nah…”.
It can’t be much fun for Steffawn being neutered before he had a chance to strut his stuff, the expert that he is on all things environmental.
It seems “cool” for every reporter, newscaster, weather “guru”, AND politician (including the CPC unfortunately) to equate ANY weather to the fact that “something is happening”.
If there is an ice storm in Florida or California and the oranges freeze – blame Climate Change (don’t mention the fact that citrus growers have been dealing with “freezing” temperatures on and off for as long as I can remember. It seems every few years we see news pictures of them wrapping their trees and using fans to keep the frost away – BUT now its climate change????)
If there is warm weather in Toronto on Xmas – blame Climate Change (not to mention that here in Alberta – probably half of the winters in the last decade have had either no snow or above zero temps on xmas day – I remember one xmas in the 90’s when the kids were outside in their t-shirts playing in the sand box – this year we have about 3 ft of snow but because Eastern Canada was warm – Climate Change)
The west coast gets some wind storms and some trees blow down in Vancouver (things that the north central USA has dealt with in most El Nino Years – it comes a little north and voila – Climate Change) Wonder how many trees get knocked down in any major wind storm in any given year in any part of the world. But according to Kevin Newman – “this is evidence that something is happening???”
Even the Blizzard that the prairies last week was used as evidence that “the weird weather continues” – Imagine – a Blizzard – on the prairies – in January.
Yep – Climate Change is upon us!!! Global Warming is here – we should start to see it’s effects in – oh – about April!!!
Rain, Freezing rain, Sunshine, Wind, Snow, Clouds, Ice – all are used by the Cult leaders to point to the obvious – the Climate is Changing – Follow us or else…….
Jimmy Jones Kool-aid now available at your nearest supermarket.
In the 1990’s Y2K was going “wipe out the entire financial network, planes will fall from the sky when their computers fail and people will freeze to death in their homes when the power grid shuts down”.
In the 1980’s it was; ” by the year 2000 everyone will either have AIDS or someone in their family will!”
And when I was in elementary school in the 1970’s ( I feel so old typing that ) it was; “Global Cooling, caused by man made CO2, is going to bring on the next Ice Age!”
Fear mongering, nothing more.
But cleaning up the enviroment and resorting to cleaner fuels – like wind and nuclear power – is a good thing.
The pro-Kyotos compare the climate change infidels to the church which persecuted Galileo. Ironically, they’ve got it completely backwards.
“Look, a non-believer!”
“Burn him!”
“NO! Don’t burn him; that’ll create more GHG.”
“Stone him!”
“YES! Stoning is sustainable development.”
It’s interesting that the socialist types, the anti-science types, are involved in two rather similar doomsday cults.
One is global warming, taken up as an apocalyptic cult of imminent doom, rejecting science logic and reason, based on cult leaders, focused on faith and emotion rather than reason and facts, defining dissent as heresy, insisting on absolute obedience.
The other is Islamic fascism, also an apocalyptic cult of imminent doom, also rejecting science, logic and reason, also based on cult leaders, also focused on faith and emotion rather than reason and facts, defining dissent as heresy, insisting on absolute obedience.
What is interesting is that the two apocalpytic cults seem to have an affinity for each other. The left supports the Taliban and defines terrorism as the ‘result of the imperialist guilty actions of the capitalist industrial west’.
The left supports global warming, and defines it as ‘the result of the imperialist guilty actions of the capitalist industrial west’.
I am very thankful that the scientific community didn’t force everyone to agree to accept global cooling and the coming ice age as fact back in the 70’s. If they had, we would all be living in extreme cold weather with ice and snow covering the landscape as far as the eye could see.
TWC just got my boycott…I have sent a message to their executive telling them why and suggesting that their own pecentage of accurately predicting weather makes their support for politicized climate theories dubious.
What is it with this country?? every toady with a microphone is a political evangelist scolding Canada;s unwashed masses for their evil ways.
I’m so sick of the propaganda from dogmatic global socialism I’m ready to move.
Albertagirl: Long before fans & wrapping were smudge pots:
http://ark.cdlib.org/ark:/13030/kt1h4nc2v2/
Cold weather and citrus groves is definitely not new.
Well weathermen have to realise that when they disagree they are attacking someones religion and that science has no place in a religious debate.
arg,
Who needs a weather channel now anyway, with the internet? I can predict the weather much more accurately than the stupid WC. Just check the radar on your local gc website (or look out the window).
As for David Suzuki, well the only thing he is good for is wearing a fig leaf.
By the way, that excellent article by Peter Foster in the National Post (thanks for the h/t) also refers to a debunking of the Stern Review on global warming. Google The Stern Review: A dual Critique. It’s in World Economics, 2006. Vol 7 Issue 4.
The point is – global warming is critiqued in many scientific reports as bunk. Importantly, although care of the environment is important, environmental knowledge and care is never short term and mechanically simple but long term, and complex.
BTW” Without doubt Kyoto/global warming theory ( which supposes man is changing the climate and can contol climate) will without doubt go down in history as the greatest fraud in the modern age.
At the vulgar political level it is nothing but a political scare tactic to gain the environmental political caba global bureaucratic power and the right to tax.
At the more subtle spiritual level it is a case of mass hypnosis causing the population to abandon sound science and reasoning for hysterical politicized junk science.
I don’t know where all this is going, but I persoanlly made a commitment to myself that I would not comply with any regulating or taxing regomes based in unprovable science…I will be a Kyoto resister…I’m fully prepared to be the first green political prisoner.
Now all this talk of Orwellian environmentalism has chilled me and I need to go put another log in the wood stove.
Just a note: The Weather Channel is a US Network (TWC), The Weather Network (TWN) is Canadian. Don’t go boycotting a Canadian channel over an American pronouncement, unless you really want to.