Yeah, yeah - I know. My friends in the legal community will argue that the process of appointment, however flawed, is still superior to the excesses that occur in the US system in which those who sit on the bench must pander to the lowest common denominator among an electorate uneducated in the nuance of the blah blah blah blah blah.
Enough.
The Gated Community community has had their chance.
The 25-year-old woman was released after Justice Gerald Jewers gave her a sentence equal to the approximately two years she had already spent in pretrial custody. Her 39-year-old common-law husband was given another seven years behind bars.CTV Winnipeg's Kelly Dehn reported that the two victim's families reacted in shock to the sentences.
"One woman was crying as she was walking out of the courtroom, saying that (the wife) was Manitoba's answer to Karla Homolka," Dehn reported. "She says she could not believe what she was hearing in that courtroom."
The couple sexually assaulted young girls they lured into their home. The wife was convicted of three charges of sexual assault and forcible confinement, while her husband was convicted of eight charges, including kidnapping and sexual assault.
In handing down the sentences, Justice Jewers argued the couple had not had any serious prior convictions. Jewers also said not all of the counts could be proven to his satisfaction.
Mike On Crime has more.
Police have called this one of the worst cases they've ever seen.Ladouceur and Traverse created a welcoming environment for neighbourhood youths by offering alcohol and marijuana for several years beginning in 1999, court was told.
They even went after family.
A 12-year-old relative told court how she was held as a “sex slave” by the couple for several months.
On at least two occasions, the girl said she was given pills and alcohol and tied to a bed and raped by Ladouceur while Traverse looked on.
Police later found disturbing evidence to support her story, including a small baggie containing 85 plastic ties stuffed in between the basement ceiling tiles and heating duct and two vials of blue and orange pills in the kitchen. The teen testified that Ladouceur threatened to get members of a Winnipeg street gang and the Hells Angels after her family if she didn't comply with his sadistic demands.
We must find a mechanism to fire some of these unaccountable twits. "Judicial independence" is no excuse for incompetence.
And while on the subject of unaccountable twits - check out this wagon circling editorial attacking Justice Minister Vic Toews for "tinkering" with "a legal system that has served us well".
Unbelievable.
Update - from Bruce, in the comments;
And the worst of all are the nine elitist, unelected, red-velvet-and-ermined-robed former flower children that constitute the SCC.Perhaps their finest hour *sarcasm on* was during the Milgaard enquiry, where at least some of the judge's were hearing evidence in a court room for the very first time. On a Friday afternoon, after hearing from a particularly dubious witness, the then-chief justice ordered that he given a polygraph (lie detector) test, with the results to be heard on the following Monday.
Those of us then in the law enforcement commmunity experienced a collective dropping of jaws, realizing that those on the highest court in the land were apparently the only parties in the criminal justice sytem who didn't know that polygraph evidence was not admissable in court in Canada. The obvious embarrassment on the faces of some of the judges on the following Monday was palpable.
Small wonder that one of the most circulated jokes among police and prosecutors after a number of the Charter decisions emanating from the SCC in the late 80s was as follows:
Q: What do you call a lawyer in Canada who knows virtually nothing about criminal law and procedures?
A: A justice of the Supreme Court of Canada.
We have just had a case in the BC courts where two young men (12 and 13 I believe) were tried for what should have been murder. Their crimes were reduced to manslaughter by the judge and the were give extremely light sentences. The judge reasoned that "they had insufficient life experience to know that beating a man over the head with a ball bat could be fatal." I may be quoting that a little incorrectly, but that's the gist of it.
When the little darlings are parolled in a few months, I suggest that they go live with the judge who sentenced them.
Mike in White Rock
Murder, crimes against children should be a hanging offence. It is further criminal for us tax payers to support these types of criminals in prison. We know rehabilitation doesn't work so we must be able to make hard decisions for the good of society.
I feel so bad for the girls and their families. Young innocent lives ruined because perverts are protected by a judge/court system that rewards failure. The perpetrators know that they have the Bleeding-Heart-Liberals on their side.
Thank you PET and the Criminology Professors.
If anything like this ever happens to my loved ones, I know I will cry-out, "damn you Trudeau !!"
Slap's on the wrist for Horrendous Crimes against Children, These children will be scarred the rest of their lives.
Time & Time again we hear of these terrible crimes & what do we do "Nothing" We need to have some backbone in this country & say to the soft on crime do gooders that it is over, Enough is Enough We have a government that wants to change these laws & it's about time that we back this government before it is too late.
http://www.answers.com/topic/beverley-mclachlin
This pretty much sums up Justice McLachlin.Look at her interpretations and decisions on law.Particularly the rape sheild law and child pornography.Absolutely disgusting.
Of course any judge with views like this would never get elected,which is probably why she is against it.
No surprise that it's "Chief Justice Beverley McLachlin" making those comments about Toews!
As head of the tribe of black robed privilege whores she has made a mockery of Canadian Citizens Rights to justice on numerous occasions.
She is also on record of advocating that judges take activist roles in defining legislation and that judges NOT be held to account in ANY WAY.
http://www.answers.com/topic/beverley-mclachlin
This pretty much sums up Justice McLachlin.Look at her interpretations and decisions on law.Particularly the rape sheild law and child pornography.Absolutely disgusting.
Of course any judge with views like this would never get elected,which is probably why she is against it.
If a criminal, given a lenient sentence by a judge, commits new crimes, the judge should be held directly responsible and as such should serve time as an accomplice. As well, victims should be allowed a civil lawsuit against the judge.
Of course, this could never happen here, because nobody is responsible for their actions.
hear..hear
The flawed justice system and insane schemes coming from parliament, like 3 strikes and your out. Well lets try this one, “one strike and the judge is out”, we have all the laws we need on the books. The problem is; there's no accountability coming from the judges, mainly because they are appointed and don’t care what anyone thinks.
Peter
Just disgusting. Just more proof that the Lib-Left are the party of paedophiles, drug addicts and murders.
I would be interested to see the Fraser Institute do a study on the impact of electing vs. appointing judges and its impact on conviction rates and the severity of sentences. I suspect both are higher in the case of elected judges which would be a good thing and it provides at least some check on lenient sentencing. But unfortunately, it does not prevent stupidity entirely (ie. American banished to Fort Erie house arrest or 3 years in jail).
Sadly, rape cases are often difficult to prove because evidence is often "he said/she said" and victims are understandably too traumatized to testify. This results in a lot of unduly quick plea bargaining (ie. Homolka).
Electing judges is only a first step. Should we adopt reverse-onus, Napoleonic-code style sentencing (ie. guilty until proven innocent - for murder and rape)? While Toews has hinted at this for gun crime, should this idea be more widely applicable?
The bottom line is that jailing people works.
By the way, frequent double posting is occurring because the response to our comment is that "this page cannot be accessed-----" so we post again, sometimes with the same response.
It would be far more credible to have Judges face the electorate. They are making some pretty poor calls and the Liberals have used them more than any other Party in power, rather than risk taking tough decisions.
McLachlin is an example of why we need elected Judges. There would at least have the accountability factor.
"Police say it was one of the worst cases they have ever seen"! But when are PEOPLE going to start saying "this is one of the worst JUDGEMENTS I have ever seen"? And start doing something about it.
I'm well aware of it. According to the site host, we're being slammed by spammers, and it's slowing down page loading, etc. I'm trying to tinker with stuff in the background, but this stuff is not my forte.
It's affecting me worse than it is you.
Just post your comment, give it a moment regardless of what "error message" you receive, and page refresh before hitting it again. I can just about guarantee it will have gone through.
The Star article is right out to fricking lunch. Can anyone tell me why it would be a bad thing to have a police officer on the pannel that selects Justices?
Is the Star on the Liberal payroll yet?
The star is right out to lunch in this article (as in so many others). Can anyone come up with a reasonable answer why it would be a bad thing for a police officer to help selecting our Justices?
Is the Star on the Liberal Payroll yet?
Could we possibly expect anything less from a Toronto Star editorial.
Expect this junk to only increase as the spring approaches and what many believe will be the next federal election.
The only thing the Star is good for is lining my bird cage.
Justice, like water will seek it's own level. If this crap keeps up you may see more occurences of vigilante justice pop up.
The Star is a stellar member of the
Mundane Spin Media.
Start instead with a little Glenn Beck and go from there. = TG
My friend’s garage was broken into a while back and a few thousand dollars worth of his tools were stolen Three weeks latter the guy is back trying to break in again using the tools that he had stolen the first time.
The police were called and when they got there they recognized him immediately “Hey that’s Gary!”
My friend asked how they knew him and they said he was one of their regulars.
So my friend says “I suppose he’ll be back on the street after lunch. “Oh no, probably right after he gets a hot breakfast.”
I don’t understand the disconnect that judges seem to have with the real world. Not many of them may have been victims of a violent crime but I can’t believe that any of them that live in Vancouver, have never experienced a house or car breaking, themselves.
What did your bird do to deserve that?
What did your bird do to deserve that?
Makes me really wonder, why they are doing what they are doing, i.e. setting the criminals free. The only reason I am finding credible is fear. But it's just me. Does it make sense to assume that the judges are afraid of revenge by the criminals? This is terrible then!
Oh yes It's all Vic's fault. He and the Conservatives are supposed to wave the magic gavel and undo decades of bad decisions.
Even our local and usually reasoned commenter Bob Layton, (from Global Edmonton and 630 Ched); had an editorial about this today and chided Vic.
From the Liberal's Justice record, to their Kyoto promises and all the rest of THEIR baggage; I say blah, blah, blah. Blah, blah, blah to them all, and most especially to the MSM and John Godfrey in Nairobi.
And the worst of all are the nine elitist, unelected, red-velvet-and-ermined-robed former flower children that constitute the SCC.
Perhaps their finest hour *sarcasm on* was during the Milgaard enquiry, where at least some of the judge's were hearing evidence in a court room for the very first time. On a Friday afternoon, after hearing from a particularly dubious witness, the then-chief justice ordered that he given a polygraph (lie detector) test, with the results to be heard on the following Monday.
Those of us then in the law enforcement commmunity experienced a collective dropping of jaws, realizing that those on the highest court in the land were apparently the only parties in the criminal justice sytem who didn't know that polygraph evidence was not admissable in court in Canada. The obvious embarrassment on the faces of some of the judges on the following Monday was palpable.
Small wonder that one of the most circulated jokes among police and prosecutors after a number of the Charter decisions emanating from the SCC in the late 80s was as follows:
Q: What do you call a lawyer in Canada who knows virtually nothing about criminal law and procedures?
A: A justice of the Supreme Court of Canada.
We get the government we deserve and in these cases we get the (In)justice we deserve. When do we, as citizens say enough is enough. In Ontario they have banned pitbulls because they are dangerous and yet they let pedophiles out time and again.
I am fully behind police being on the selection board, and could I suggest we also have victims of criminals AND the Injustice system on them also.
Accountability is the key--and our judges are NOT accountable to anyone. Their God complex is destroying this country for honest people. Not only is the criminal abusing us but so is our Injustice System. I have had it with their coddling of criminals.
Talking about releasing criminals because they do not have a history of criminal acts--says who? This only means they have not been caught before. How many molested and tortured children will it take to make them criminals worthy of being put away for life? The crime they were apprehended for should be more than sufficient you would think. The comment about 'gated communities' hits the nail on the head--the more equal see nothing wrong with sacrificing our children to the scum of the earth. When do we rise up and take control of thissituation? These are our children.
hear..hear
The flawed justice system and insane schemes coming from parliament, like 3 strikes and your out. Well lets try this one, “one strike and the judge is out”, we have all the laws we need on the books. The problem is; there's no accountability coming from the judges, mainly because they are appointed and don’t care what anyone thinks.
Peter
Yes, you do wonder how some judges can sleep at night. I have no idea how the families sleep either--I would be consumed by anger if this were my child. DOes anyone remember the case of Norma Jean Mooswa? I'll never forget it:
Sentence too light: families
By Betty Ann Adam
The Star Phoenix
December 21, 2004
BATTLEFORD, SASKATCHEWAN -- A 10-year prison sentence is not long enough for a woman who killed six people in a drunken auto crash near the resort village of Cochin on Canada Day, the families of the victims said Monday.
Norma Jean Mooswa, 35, pleaded guilty Monday to six counts of impaired driving causing death and four counts of impaired driving causing bodily harm in connection with a chain reaction smash-up. It was triggered when she slammed into the back of a vehicle waiting at a stop sign around noon on July 1.
All four of her passengers, including a pregnant woman, and two women in the vehicle she hit, were killed. Two men in that vehicle were seriously injured.
"We expected her to get life in prison. Ten years for all six lives? What are you talking about?" said Lisa Higginbotham, who took the witness stand to give a victim impact statement about the death of her daughter, 21-year-old Tarrah Higginbotham.
"Tarrah doesn't get to come back when she's 31," Higginbotham said.
Crown prosecutor Dennis Cann recounted evidence from witness statements.
Mooswa began drinking beer the night before the crash and may have stayed awake all night. Around 5:45 a.m. on Thursday, July 1, Amanda Bearsears phoned to the place where Mooswa was and asked for a ride to the Little Pine First Nation.
Mooswa, whose licence was suspended because of previous drinking and driving offences, and who was at that time facing another impaired driving charge from three months earlier, was a passenger on the drive to Little Pine.
At a house there, Mooswa drank beer, vodka and whisky. Bearsears is said to have warned Mooswa not to drink because she was to be the driver. Mooswa laughed and took another drink from her mug, Cann said.
For some reason, Bearsears, who was four months pregnant, Lorenda Assasayo, Elvis Kennedy and Clarence Louis got into a car with Mooswa at the wheel. They stopped at a gas bar, where witnesses saw that she was intoxicated. Kennedy bought 18 beer.
The crash scene was about 110 kilometres away.
Witnesses said the Mooswa car passed at least three vehicles on a solid line.
Three other vehicles were waiting at a stop sign near Cochin when Mooswa slammed into them from behind.
The speed limit on the road was 80 kilometres per hour, slowing to 50 near the stop sign.
A "black box" device from the car she was driving revealed that five seconds before impact, it was travelling 160 kilometres per hour.
__________________________________
As far as I know, Norma Jean is still at a healing center near Swift Current. Six people killed--seven if you include the unborn child. Can someone please explain this to me? I covered over a dozen court cases like this and it is so difficult to watch---the families are devastated. There was one case where a murdering son of a b**** got what was coming to him: 30 year old Barclay Mcfie--25 years-no parole for killing his estranged wife, Carol Meredith in Cold Lake, Alberta.
hear..hear
The flawed justice system and insane schemes coming from parliament, like 3 strikes and your out. Well lets try this one, “one strike and the judge is out”, we have all the laws we need on the books. The problem is; there's no accountability coming from the judges, mainly because they are appointed and don’t care what anyone thinks.
Peter
"The Time Has Come To Elect Judges"
As long as we take the vote away from women then you've got a deal!
Seriously, 98% of federal inmates are men, a number so out of whack with actual crime statistics as to prove beyond a reasonable doubt that women are effectively above the law in Canada. Combined with the fact that over half of all incarcerated individuals in Canada haven't even be convicted of a crime it is difficult to argue that Canada has a judicial-legal system comparable to developed nations such as Iran or China.
They haven't been convicted because savvy criminals know that time served in remand counts double - so they pull out every trick in the book to avoid having their day in court. Then, when it finally comes up, they walk free on "time served" even though it's only half the time they'd have been sentenced to had they gone for a speedy trial.... best yet are those who get the volumne discount and serve sentences "concurrently".
correct me if Im wrong but I dont believe that Karla Homolka was ever even tried for the murder of her own sister. I think she just got a wave through the system after doing her party time.
She was one thing I didnt mind giving to Quebec.
Ctv.ca: 2 Men sentenced on Fatal Motorcycle crash
2 lives were taken in this stupid act of street racing.
Sentence for the 2 that caused this: 6months Home Arrest, 18months probation & 2 yr Driving Ban.
Having problems getting my comments posted again today as yesterday. Dang! Bloody spammers! Anyway, I'll try again. I did a post on the same case this AM before checking out SDA, so, here's what I have to say, besides that I'm all for electing judges, who have become de facto left wing dictators:
Where's the Widespread Outrage?
http://thecanadiansentinel.blogspot.com/2006/11/wheres-widespread-outrage.html
More evidence of two-tierdness: If these people were Muslim instead of Jewish this would be on every blog in Canada:
MONTREAL -- A suggestion that female police officers call in male colleagues when male victims prefer not to deal with women is sparking heated debate in Montreal.
The issue is being raised in an internal publication for Montreal police officers.
The article suggests female officers let their male partners deal with victims and witnesses if they're Hasidic Jewish men whose religion frowns on fraternization with most women.
http://www.ctv.ca/servlet/ArticleNews/story/CTVNews/20061115/hasidic_cops_061115/20061115?hub=Canada
More related absurdity, idjtards who think it's 1933 all over again please take note:
MONTREAL -- A suggestion that female police officers call in male colleagues when male victims prefer not to deal with women is sparking heated debate in Montreal.
The issue is being raised in an internal publication for Montreal police officers.
The article suggests female officers let their male partners deal with victims and witnesses if they're Hasidic Jewish men whose religion frowns on fraternization with most women.
http://www.ctv.ca/servlet/ArticleNews/story/CTVNews/20061115/hasidic_cops_061115/20061115?hub=Canada
Sorry for my frequent double postings, its occurring because the response to my comment was "this page has timed out" so I posted again, with the same response.
Peter
One of the ballot initiatives in the US Mid Term elections was South Dakota's referendum on stripping judges of their immunity to legal action for their rulings. From what I understand, the proposal was wide-reaching and might have also affected juries but maybe the solution isn't to elect judges but make them accountable in some cases. Not ones where the law legislated their rulings but cases where they had some flexibility in their decisions.
nice to know bob hates women almost as much as he hates jews.
anyway this jew lawyer thinks elected judges is a terrible idea, but the current process is almost as bad. they're virtually unaccountable even in the lower courts since appeals are very easy to dismiss. life appointments without review just doesn't work. on the civil litigation end, most judges will use the bench as a form of insurance to compensate plaintiffs regardless of the merits of their case.
if you think the supreme court is bad, you should spend some time in the ontario superior court.
but if you left it to a vote you'd end up with lefties anyway with voting patterns here.
OT, sorry Kate (delete if you wish).
How will Gidget Taber and her fellow journalists(sic) spin ths one?
On the CTV website, the headline reads "Harper puts Human Rights first"
To Budd, Iberia et al I wait your response on Hidden Agenda Harper and all his code words.
The next time we here about these two, will be over the body's of young children.
In my opinion this is a symptom of the socialist disease, of Government worship. Judges now have become the secular version of infallibility. At least they think they are.
The fact there un-elected but believe they have the right to overrule legislative laws by elected polities. Is just one of the signs of their hubris out of control.
Its never from an individual rights position. Always from the viewpoint of collectivist rights.
That these 'Judges' allow such constructions as the Human rights boards that ignore the basics of any legal precedents. Except tribunals from dictatorships. Is also indicative of there strong collectivist ideals. These Star chambers are the West’s answer to political bulling the jihadist religious police. Only its secular insanities like smoking & other "sins". Or the free action of ones conscience being made to bow before the collective ideology or victim group of the hour. A travesty of law.
Their idea that they can interpret the Charter by some mystic means, underscores there frightening vanity. To have the power to read anything into a Nations constitution is begging trouble. To give them the power without oversight. Psychosis. The liberals wanted it this way for there hug a thug policies.
More money for buddies you know. I read one memo that told Wardens to release half their inmates no matter what. Giving even Clifford Olsen the vote, just capped off there contempt for the safety of citizens, over criminal license.
Most police now call it a legal system. Justice has nothing to do with it anymore.
Since society as a collective causes crime in the leftist mind. Than the real reprobates are the people who have jobs & families. Its the poor delinquent that has been abused by these horrible working people. Them with their bigoted families. Its why they are so forceful about mandatory day care. Telling kids to not listen to parents.
Perhaps its why the Soviets employed only killers, mobsters as guards to the political prisoners. Read Alexander Solzenitzens Gulag archipelago. Heck they still run Russia.
I would elect low end judges , than have the supreme courts in Provinces & the federal system picked by a panel of citizens , police , government. Than hand the list to the Premier or PM. Than parliament can debate there merits publicly. The time of these people with so much power being hidden is over. Let there own deeds be our guide. Not an ideology.
I was until six months ago against the death penalty. Now though because of DNA with new methods of investigation . I think its time to bring back the noose.
Our crime rate is now worse than Americas. Socialism does not work. Cut these freeloaders & abettors from the boat of public policy.
This is not civilization when the rule of law is spit upon by those charged with its protection & administration.
Frankly this whole thing makes me ill. How any human could have made a judgment like this , even a lefty is beyond words.
Keep repeating to yourself. Government is not infallible, Government is not infallible, Government is not infallible. Than maybe we can click our heels back to reality & dispose of this human waste as our forebears once did. Perhaps let the police do there job without seeing the same characters over & over again , only hours latter.
I ask the Lefties or liberal socialists, how can you possibly justify this?
The next time we here about these two, will be over the body's of young children.
In my opinion this is a symptom of the socialist disease, of Government worship. Judges now have become the secular version of infallibility. At least they think they are.
The fact there un-elected but believe they have the right to overrule legislative laws by elected polities. Is just one of the signs of their hubris out of control.
Its never from an individual rights position. Always from the viewpoint of collectivist rights.
That these 'Judges' allow such constructions as the Human rights boards that ignore the basics of any legal precedents. Except tribunals from dictatorships. Is also indicative of there strong collectivist ideals. These Star chambers are the West’s answer to political bulling the jihadist religious police. Only its secular insanities like smoking & other "sins". Or the free action of ones conscience being made to bow before the collective ideology or victim group of the hour. A travesty of law.
Their idea that they can interpret the Charter by some mystic means, underscores there frightening vanity. To have the power to read anything into a Nations constitution is begging trouble. To give them the power without oversight. Psychosis. The liberals wanted it this way for there hug a thug policies.
More money for buddies you know. I read one memo that told Wardens to release half their inmates no matter what. Giving even Clifford Olsen the vote, just capped off there contempt for the safety of citizens, over criminal license.
Most police now call it a legal system. Justice has nothing to do with it anymore.
Since society as a collective causes crime in the leftist mind. Than the real reprobates are the people who have jobs & families. Its the poor delinquent that has been abused by these horrible working people. Them with their bigoted families. Its why they are so forceful about mandatory day care. Telling kids to not listen to parents.
Perhaps its why the Soviets employed only killers, mobsters as guards to the political prisoners. Read Alexander Solzenitzens Gulag archipelago. Heck they still run Russia.
I would elect low end judges , than have the supreme courts in Provinces & the federal system picked by a panel of citizens , police , government. Than hand the list to the Premier or PM. Than parliament can debate there merits publicly. The time of these people with so much power being hidden is over. Let there own deeds be our guide. Not an ideology.
I was until six months ago against the death penalty. Now though because of DNA with new methods of investigation . I think its time to bring back the noose.
Our crime rate is now worse than Americas. Socialism does not work. Cut these freeloaders & abettors from the boat of public policy.
This is not civilization when the rule of law is spit upon by those charged with its protection & administration.
Frankly this whole thing makes me ill. How any human could have made a judgment like this , even a lefty is beyond words.
Keep repeating to yourself. Government is not infallible, Government is not infallible, Government is not infallible. Than maybe we can click our heels back to reality & dispose of this human waste as our forebears once did. Perhaps let the police do there job without seeing the same characters over & over again , only hours latter.
I ask the Lefties or liberal socialists, how can you possibly justify this?
In the US military if you are on MP duty escorting a prisoner and he excapes you get to do the rest of his sentence. Im sure we can figure out a way to transfer this idea over to judges.
I completely agree - judges should be elected, and for specific limited terms.
How about that sentence in the Toronto Star which berates the Harper gov't and minister, because it removed 'funding that helped women, minorities and the disabled argue in court for equality rights under the constitution". Hey, Toronto Star, they already have these rights, written in the constitution - so why should the taxpayer be funding them to argue for what they have? Or is it a special deal, where women, minorities and the disabled, are able to use tax-funded lawyers, ..just because...?
Beverly McLachlin's activism is a disgrace to the judicial profession. Her claim that it is a 'judicial responsibility' to work out 'truly fundamental rights', and these 'fundamental norms' which are not written are accessible only to the 'wisdom' of the appointed (anointed?) judges and...they TRUMP written laws. That is, according to McLachlin, judges write the laws. Not the people. Not the elected legislature. Appointed unelected unaccountable judges write our laws. That's McLachlin.
Compare Justice Scalia of the US Supreme Court, who said "What distinguishes the rule of law from the dictatorship of a shifting Supreme Court majority..is the absolutely indispensable requirement that judicial opinions be grounded in consistently applied principle- and these principles are found in the constitution.
Judges cannot 'begin acting as superleglislatures" - they cannot make the law.
We need elected judges who are accountable to the people.
Allen said: "anyway this jew lawyer thinks elected judges is a terrible idea"
Big surprise there, lol. Lawyers have a large financial incentive to have a revolving door justice system.
Elected judges.
What a really, really bad idea. Imagine, being elected based on who has the best ads, or on how much dirt (whether tru or not) one can smear on one opponent. Knowledge of the law...eeehhhh optional.
As for Kate's, et al's. concern over the judgement in Winnipeg...rather than complain about the how the sentence was reduced, how about getting more judges into the system, which would move these cases through faster, which would reduce the amount of double time occuring...and so on.
And rehab does work, just not on everyone. And it get's people less likly to re-offend out of prison, leaving more room for those who really deserve to be there.
Unfortunately, this might cost money, and conservatives seem allergic to spending money.
And such things as "three strikes and your out" and elected "get tough" judges are merely panaceas in my opinion. They look good, but really don't address the problem.
And yes, those two cretinous lowlifes should have gotten more than they did, especially the one who walked.
In a public forum on justice here in Kelowna last year, a prominent senior Judge remarked that he didn't care what people thought about his sentencing, that he didn't answer to the public.
The idea of putting more unaccountable people on the bench is an other liberano lie, lets try real sentences, elected judges, bring back hanging for rape and murder. Take all the liberano thug huggers and lock them up with these scum for a while and see if they sing a different tune. And, yes murray, that last part was directed at YOU!!!!
"On a Friday afternoon, after hearing from a particularly dubious witness, the then-chief justice ordered that he given a polygraph (lie detector) test, with the results to be heard on the following Monday."
You've got to be kidding me.
murray: You make a valid point, Knowledge of the law.
However we do need a system in Canada that elects Judges that would have a knowledge of the Law & Would enforce the Laws as set down.
Now Iam no expert but it has seemed to work in the US for 230yrs.
The judge in question stated that there were no prior crimes for 1 & 1 prior for the other, So the horrendous acts that these 2 performed on Children are not serious enough to warrant a stiffer sentence because they had no priors?.
We have a duty as law abiding canadians to protect our children from these sick individuals the courts obviously won't do it, How do we do this? we pressure our elected officials & demand change in the laws & Judges that will enforce them in the courts.
We finaly have a Justice Minister that realizes all of this & look what is happening the Soft on Crime in Canada are out to linch the guy.
We must prevent this from happening & support the Minister or these injustices will never stop.