What's Wrong With Europe?

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Stanley Kurtz; "Islamic militias tear capital apart. Country may soon be divided....No, not Iraq. I’m talking about France. Europe continues its descent into...what shall we call it? Civil war? Intifada? Call it what you like, but take it deadly seriously. More scare-mongering from an American conservative? Well, I’ve noticed the beginnings of a shift in the European press in just the past week or two. There’s a new sense of alarm, and even the partially spoken belief that Europe’s American critics may have a point after all. Take a look at “What’s Wrong With Europe,” from Spiegel Online."

The French capital has an intifada unfolding on its doorstep. For 11 nights running, garbage containers and vehicles have been burning in Departement Seine-Saint-Denis. Night after night, gangs of teenagers storm through their neighborhoods, throwing Molotov cocktails into carpet shops and nursery schools, turning vehicles into bonfires -- 250 in one night, then 315 the next night, and 500 the next.

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Social divisions in today's French society run along ethnic and religious lines, and they also signify deep cultural rifts. The ideal of the French republic -- the nation as a community of the willing, of citizens who enjoy equal rights, regardless of their ethnic origins or religious beliefs -- is giving way to a volatile co-existence among communities that want to retain their identities and live according to their own rules. The official French position has always been to condemn multiculturalism -- and yet the state must now deal with the consequences.

Between "us" and "them"

The strict separation of church and state, a sacrosanct pillar of French government, has become an illusion. Jihad may not be what's inspiring the rioters, but Islam is undeniably an inseparable component of their self-identity. Islam strengthens their sense of solidarity, gives them the appearance of legitimacy and draws an unmistakable line between them and the others, the "French."

Suddenly "big brothers" -- devout bearded men from the mosques who wear long traditional robes -- are positioning themselves between the authorities and the rioters in Clichy-sous-Bois, calling for order in the name of Allah. As thousands of voices shout "Allahu Akbar" from the windows of high-rise apartment buildings, shivers run down the spines of television viewers in their seemingly safe living rooms.

As welcome as these self-appointed keepers of the peace may be, worried authorities think they have detected something akin to a Muslim law enforcement group -- perhaps even the beginnings of an Islamic militia. "The logic behind this unrest," says one police officer, "is secession." If he's right, it would be a nightmare scenario of entire neighborhoods and communities separating themselves from the state and essentially declaring their independence, creating zones with their own laws, areas to which the authorities no longer have access unless they wish to be perceived as hostile intruders.


RTWT

(Note - the Spiegel piece is from 2005)


39 Comments

The French are more concerned with the texture of fois gras than defending their own country of the quiet and covert Islamist invasion.

Even during WW2 the men hid in basements complaining about the quality of wine while French women ran the resistance.

This nation of cowards deserves what it is getting.

Forget DeGaulle's "Libre Quebec Libre", how about "Goodbye France, we hardly knew ya".

Sounds like Caledonia.

HA! Murray,

I was about to type your exact words.

Frances problem is not multiculturalism it is appathy, or perhaps timidity. When the lawmakers and law enforcers become afraid to enforce the law and thereby abandon all the good ideals that surround the word "Republic" and further, abandon the citizens of that republic to the whims of a vicious few then the end is in sight.

A State is defined as "a human community which sucessfully claims the monopoly of the legitimate use of physical force within a given territory". France is loosing it's claim to that definition.

Caledonia? Hell yes, we too are going down that road.

EUROPE - THY NAME IS COWARDICE
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(quote)......
(Commentary by Mathias Dapfner CEO, Axel Springer, AG)

A few days ago, Henryk M. Broder wrote in the Welt am Sonntag, "Europe — thy name is appeasement." It's a phrase you can't get out of your head because it's so painfully true.

Appeasement cost millions of Jews and Gentiles their lives as England and France, allies at the time, negotiated and hesitated far too long before realizing that Hitler had to be fought, not bound to agreements...........

(End Quote)


A current email making the rounds, is in fact based on a real event.. check Snopes below for the rest of the article. Insightful ..

http://www.snopes.com/politics/soapbox/dapfner.asp

The French are so damn arrogant, decadent and basically undeserving of sympathy. They've reached the tipping point just on the numbers that anything they haven't conceded to date is going to be taken by force by their little native jihadis. 15% of the French armed forces are Muslim. Watch how fast that training gets used against them.

Anything the French ever laid their hands on from their old colonies in Africa to even Louisiana, one of the historically most corrupt states in the nation, reflect what frivolous jerks the French are.

They are not going to be able to weasel out of their mess. No liberators on the horizon this time. I hope they are being real careful with their multi-culti affirmative action hires at their nuclear power plants.

An interview with Paul Belein of the Brussels Journal today on this subject:

pajamasmedia.com/2006/10/intifada_in_france_a_pajamas_m.php

There is a book "While Europe Slept" written by a gay New York journalist now living in Europe on this issue. It raises many of the same concerns. The uniqueness of this book is that the author cannot be attackes as simply an angry white male heterosexual conservative. The author states that a George Bush regime looks pretty good to him as a homosexual compared to the option of living under fundamentalist Islamic law. Unfortunately Europe will have to experience some serious upheaval before they figure things out. While you can debate the tactics employed by Bush, he is way ahead of the Europeans in understanding the fundamental issues and threats facing western democratic society in this regard.

Appeasement cost millions of Jews and Gentiles their lives as England and France, allies at the time, negotiated and hesitated far too long before realizing that Hitler had to be fought, not bound to agreements...........

You have to be fucking kidding, France and England never have been allies.
If England had shown cowardice you bastards would be wearing jackboots and goosestepping

WW2 Canada NO callup, appeasment to Queerbec

Iraq, no we will not join appeasment to Queerbec.
So shove you e-mail up your arse.


If it weren't for the architectural and artistic heritage in Europe I wouldn't care if the savages burned the whole place to the ground. Eurowennies are useless. They've already sent their best and brightest to the new world. All that remain is the dregs.

Warwick said
Eurowennies are useless

Maybe you should look at how many troops from different European countries are in Iraq and Afgahanistan

Then look at how many Canadian trops are there.

How many Eurotrash countries have their troops in COMBAT roles in Afstan?

I exclude England from the continent. Only the left in England consider themselves European...

Warwick and Pissdoff:

Well if they are "Euroweenies" then they can now be roasted on the Molotov cocktail inspired "Car-B-Qs".

Gee a tasty braised meal and a cocktail; how civilized?

pissdoff;
I think Marmot had that dork of all times Chamberlain in mind and if he had his way England would have felt jackboots in no time. The same idiots that gave rise to a moron like him have spawned and elected the Labor gov't in Merry Olde. One of the European countries is going to have to say ENOUGH! and I'll bet it won't be GB.

Jim in Calgary

FYI Chamberlain was a Conservative. I just spent some time in the UK with relatives. The sentiment there may surprise you. The UK will likely be the one place in Europe that wakes up first. The attitude of the people I spoke with is fairly stoic. The overwhelming impression I took away was one of "it was sure nice of the Americans to look after things while we recovered from that financial bath known as WW2, but we are almost ready to regain our rightful place". Has there been anyone who gets it like Tony Blair? Other than PMSH, not many outside of the USA. They have not gone to the Euro, they have applied immigration restrictions on new EU members and some parts of the old Commonwealth. There are daily street battles in some areas between locals and Muslim factions, the veil controversy, the recent transAtlantic terror threat, the terrorist training schools. These people are indeed waking up and have already started saying "enough".

Canada must put a stop to all muslim immigration immediately. Stop and deport anyone, especially all the mad mullahs mucking with the brains of their miserable youth.

Trouble with France is they always speak the good words but never follow up on them. France is for the separation of religion and state. This is an American idea to protect religious freedom from the state and not visa versa as the French see it.

Now they have to confront Islam where the state and religious rules are one. Just as it was when France was a Christian state with laws based on Christian rules. The trouble is that Islamic and Christian rules are opposites of each other. Islam is not a religion of peace but of revenge. You cut off the hand of the thief to supposedly protect him from doing it again. There is no forgiveness involved. Sharia law allows for beating women except for the face. Violence in the western world is discouraged.

What will France do now? I suspect that we will do what they do best – appease. They will allow Sharia law in certain parts of the country thus separating France into Christian and Islamic cantons. This is the foothold that the Muslims wanted all along. Then we will have to go and liberate them like we did last century.

The positive side is that when Quebec decides to separate from Canada France will betray them again because they’ll be too busy fighting the Muslims in their own country. Hopefully that will put an end to the attempts to break Canada up.

While I think the European leadership is cowardly, weasely and self-centered in manipulation of their role in world affairs, we should not be so heavy handed in our so called "superiour position" in North America. We are in the same boat, we just haven't had to face it yet on their scale. All it will take is a bomb blast here and murderous riot there, in Canada and all hell will break loose. Having an attitude of superiourity will not help us when the time comes that we have to deal with Muslim Facisim. I as devout Christian am very interested in dialogue and patience, but if the Muslim communities abroad and at home do not take responsibility as citizens of their new adopted nations and help take action against muslim extremists, they will have to endure the wrath of the majority groups and allied nations. Most of the countries we mention were built on Christian values, not Muslim values - my view is they must find a away to adopt our tolerance and then maybe they can stay. I ask them, if muslim's don't wish to co-exist peacefully and by our established value's; leave or we will force you to leave (or behave).

These are very extreme words coming from me. As a Canadian through my 40 plus years of life I have always respected our multiculturism; generally it has worked very well - but I continually hear, read and see the Muslim community condemn everyone else, cry victim or show intolerance to our well established culture in the face of our mounting intolerance to their pre-disposed intolerance of everything seemingly against them. Our silence and inaction as Canadian's has not been weakness, it has been merely Canadians first turning inwards for the answers - as we always do. I say to Muslim Canadians, we are beginning to turn to you, as the answer must lie with you towards your future in Canada, if you want one.

jwp
I know Chamberlain was a Conservative-Joe Clarke is-was whatever Conservative. I would shudder to think of him negotiating with Hitler. The color
doesn't matter, it's how you wear it. Blair is toast and I think surprisingly, for someone in the Norse region to step up to the plate. ( And it ain't Sweden) I also believe that a former Eastern Bloc country just may surprise us. Then again, it could be wishful thinking. We know that the Islamofacists won't take on the Russians on their own turf. Putin takes no prisoners and what worked in Afstan won't work there. Not much left.

Jim in Calgary

Agreed on the Conservative colour thing with Clark and Chamberlain, just checking. It looked like a slam on Labour Party which would have been undeserved, at least today anyways. What Mr Brown does could change that in a hurry. And agree on the lack of potential in Europe, although as much as we like to slam the French, it is obvious that their tolerance level is rapidly being approached. At least the french police understand the problem. Paris in some areas is already a police state. On my trip to UK we also took a day trip to Paris (you gotta) I was at Sacre Couer in Paris and the police presence was amazing. They travel in packs of 4 - 6 and armed to the teeth. They don't take any crap either. Not what I expected from the French at any rate. They are obviously a bit worried over their personal safety. This is a heavy tourist area and it seemed ike they were trying to keep it safe for this valuable industry. The visibility was pretty much the same around all the major sites.

Maybe its time for france to reconsiter its ban on capital punishment dust off the guilotine and start beheading few islamic militants

Further to my views above. I quoted:

"...I continually hear, read and see the Muslim community condemn everyone else, cry victim or show intolerance to our well established culture in the face of our mounting intolerance to their pre-disposed intolerance of everything seemingly against them."

Well, within 2 minutes of saying those words, I found My kind of Terrorist. This man I could call my friend, a fellow Canadian and a Muslim to admire. The Muslim people need more leaders like him. Follow the link and watch the the video (long video)"How Terrorists Think"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BtRA5Za0uYI&mode=related&search=

I appreciated his words of faith on patience, tolerance and acceptance.

I don't agree with the idea that Europe will so easily roll-over to Islam. There seems to be a growing light that's being shed on the results of socialist politics, including multi-culturalism and pcism.

Europeans are a proud people with a ruthless and brutal DNA - Attila, Vlad, Charles Martel, et al.

I'd wager that, in the unfortunate event of a serious attack, the people of Europe would throw the socialist governments aside and go feral.

There'd be a horde of accidental muslim martyrs if that were to take place, either there or even moreso here in North America.

In the same way, I don't agree with adopting the enemies descriptive terminology either. Dhimmitude, infidel, jihad, fatwa, etc. are alien terms not apllicable to ourselves, our history, culture, and future.

A war is waged with language as well.

Great vent at Hot Air. Michelle Malkin interviews Mark Steyn. Well worth the listen.
hotair.com/

Warwick writes:

"Eurowennies[sic] are useless"
(wtf is a wennie?)

Mark Steyn writes:

"Canada, in the peerless formulation of the great Christie Blatchford, mistook the sidelines for the moral high ground, and, in a great civilizational struggle being waged in a media age, it's not enough to have great fighting men when every other force in your society is communicating 24/7 that you're the
superwimp pussy-nation."

How's that Caledonia thing working out for you Canada, you superwimp pussy nation?

Warwick...

re: """Canada, in the peerless formulation of the great Christie Blatchford, mistook the sidelines for the moral high ground, and, in a great civilizational struggle being waged in a media age, it's not enough to have great fighting men when every other force in your society is communicating 24/7 that you're the
superwimp pussy-nation."

How's that Caledonia thing working out for you Canada, you superwimp pussy nation?""""

I say...touche'

For a sanitized, less sarcastic translation...read my (cdnslinger's) first post in this thread.

Again, impressive spearing Warwick!

I'm worried now....because Quebec wants to be just like France!!
Too bad we can't build walls around Quebec!!
LMAO!
Bwahahahahaha!
France has it comming...........but unfortunately the Muslim Criminals are comming to Canada Next!

sorry irwin...i am taking ownership of that bigoted "I" word...ordered an "infidel" bumper sticker to boot..that is if they let it across the border...should be interesting to see the reactions to that while driving down the 401

sometimes the price for appeasement is a long way off, but it will come due. with interest.

this is what is happening in france, not some sudden completely unexpected thing. and it is entirely consistent with the french lack of character.

totally absorbed debating the best wine regions and their sex kitten movie stars to see the arabic writing on the wall.

Speaking of Islam and "terrorism"...

One thing that struck me as odd in the days after 9/11 was Bush saying "We will not tolerate conspiracy theories [regarding 9/11]". Sure enough there have been some wacky conspiracy theories surrounding the events of that day. The most far-fetched and patently ridiculous one that I've ever heard goes like this: Nineteen hijackers who claimed to be devout Muslims but yet were so un-Muslim as to be getting drunk all the time, doing cocaine and frequenting strip clubs decided to hijack four airliners and fly them into buildings in the northeastern U.S., the area of the country that is the most thick with fighter bases. After leaving a Koran on a barstool at a strip bar after getting shitfaced drunk on the night before, then writing a suicide note/inspirational letter that sounded like it was written by someone with next to no knowledge of Islam, they went to bed and got up the next morning hung over and carried out their devious plan. Nevermind the fact that of the four "pilots" among them there was not a one that could handle a Cessna or a Piper Cub let alone fly a jumbo jet, and the one assigned the most difficult task of all, Hani Hanjour, was so laughably incompetent that he was the worst fake "pilot" of the bunch. Nevermind the fact that they received very rudimentary flight training at Pensacola Naval Air Station, making them more likely to have been C.I.A. assets than Islamic fundamentalist terrorists. So on to the airports. These "hijackers" somehow managed to board all four airliners with their tickets, yet not even ONE got his name on any of the flight manifests. So they hijack all four airliners and at this time passengers on United 93 start making a bunch of cell phone calls from 35,000 feet in the air to tell people what was going on. Nevermind the fact that cell phones wouldn't work very well above 4,000 feet, and wouldn't work at ALL above 8,000 feet. But the conspiracy theorists won't let that fact get in the way of a good fantasy. That is one of the little things you "aren't supposed to think about". Nevermind that one of the callers called his mom and said his first and last name, more like he was reading from a list than calling his own mom. Anyway, when these airliners each deviated from their flight plan and didn't respond to ground control, NORAD would any other time have followed standard operating procedure (and did NOT have to be told by F.A.A. that there were hijackings because they were watching the same events unfold on their own radar) which means fighter jets would be scrambled from the nearest base where they were available on standby within a few minutes, just like every other time when airliners stray off course. But of course on 9/11 this didn't happen, not even close. Somehow these "hijackers" must have used magical powers to cause NORAD to stand down, as ridiculous as this sounds because total inaction from the most high-tech and professional Air Force in the world would be necessary to carry out their tasks. So on the most important day in its history the Air Force was totally worthless. Then they had to make one of the airliners look like a smaller plane, because unknown to them the Naudet brothers had a videocamera to capture the only known footage of the North Tower crash, and this footage shows something that is not at all like a jumbo jet, but didn't have to bother with the South Tower jet disguising itself because that was the one we were "supposed to see". Anyway, as for the Pentagon they had to have Hani Hanjour fly his airliner like it was a fighter plane, making a high G-force corkscrew turn that no real airliner can do, in making its descent to strike the Pentagon. But these "hijackers" wanted to make sure Rumsfeld survived so they went out of their way to hit the farthest point in the building from where Rumsfeld and the top brass are located. And this worked out rather well for the military personnel in the Pentagon, since the side that was hit was the part that was under renovation at the time with few military personnel present compared to construction workers. Still more fortuitous for the Pentagon, the side that was hit had just before 9/11 been structurally reinforced to prevent a large fire there from spreading elsewhere in the building. Awful nice of them to pick that part to hit, huh? Then the airliner vaporized itself into nothing but tiny unidentifiable pieces no bigger than a fist, unlike the crash of a real airliner when you will be able to see at least some identifiable parts, like crumpled wings, broken tail section etc. Why, Hani Hanjour the terrible pilot flew that airliner so good that even though he hit the Pentagon on the ground floor the engines didn't even drag the ground!! Imagine that!! Though the airliner vaporized itself on impact it only made a tiny 16 foot hole in the building. Amazing. Meanwhile, though the planes hitting the Twin Towers caused fires small enough for the firefighters to be heard on their radios saying "We just need 2 hoses and we can knock this fire down" attesting to the small size of it, somehow they must have used magical powers from beyond the grave to make this morph into a raging inferno capable of making the steel on all forty-seven main support columns (not to mention the over 100 smaller support columns) soften and buckle, then all fail at once. Hmmm. Then still more magic was used to make the building totally defy physics as well as common sense in having the uppermost floors pass through the remainder of the building as quickly, meaning as effortlessly, as falling through air, a feat that without magic could only be done with explosives. Then exactly 30 minutes later the North Tower collapses in precisely the same freefall physics-defying manner. Incredible. Not to mention the fact that both collapsed at a uniform rate too, not slowing down, which also defies physics because as the uppermost floors crash into and through each successive floor beneath them they would shed more and more energy each time, thus slowing itself down. Common sense tells you this is not possible without either the hijackers' magical powers or explosives. To emphasize their telekinetic prowess, later in the day they made a third building, WTC # 7, collapse also at freefall rate though no plane or any major debris hit it. Amazing guys these magical hijackers. But we know it had to be "Muslim hijackers" the conspiracy theorist will tell you because (now don't laugh) one of their passports was "found" a couple days later near Ground Zero, miraculously "surviving" the fire that we were told incinerated planes, passengers and black boxes, and also "survived" the collapse of the building it was in. When common sense tells you if that were true then they should start making buildings and airliners out of heavy paper and plastic so as to be "indestructable" like that magic passport. The hijackers even used their magical powers to bring at least seven of their number back to life, to appear at american embassies outraged at being blamed for 9/11!! BBC reported on that and it is still online. Nevertheless, they also used magical powers to make the american government look like it was covering something up in the aftermath of this, what with the hasty removal of the steel debris and having it driven to ports in trucks with GPS locators on them, to be shipped overseas to China and India to be melted down. When common sense again tells you that this is paradoxical in that if the steel was so unimportant that they didn't bother saving some for analysis but so important as to require GPS locators on the trucks with one driver losing his job because he stopped to get lunch. Hmmmm. Yes, this whole story smacks of the utmost idiocy and fantastical far-fetched lying, but it is amazingly enough what some people believe. Even now, five years later, the provably false fairy tale of the "nineteen hijackers" is heard repeated again and again, and is accepted without question by so many Americans. Which is itself a testament to the innate psychological cowardice of the American sheeple, i mean people, and their abject willingness to believe something, ANYTHING, no matter how ridiculous in order to avoid facing a scary uncomfortable truth. Time to wake up America.

Warwick at October 27, 2006 02:00 PM says

How many Eurotrash countries have their troops in COMBAT roles in Afstan.
British, Dutch, German and French, some of which have lost more troops than Canada. Of course the left wing biased Canadian MSM is not going to report that has it does not suit theirs or their political masters cause.

Try this link
http://www.stratfor.com/products/premium/read_article.php?id=279226

Maybe the Eurorash, as you call them, are wondering why Canada is the only country on Bin Ladens top 10 hit list not to have been hit. Also why it took so long for Canada to to become combative.

By the way even Harper has said it is not all about combat, that we are there to rebuild as well.

Still it is nice to see that you by your language are one of those morally superior Canucks who think you are saving the world. Hope you feel the same way if the next government is a minority lib one supported by Taliban Jack and the village idiot party.

Everyone had better hope the french solve their problems over there. If it turns really ugly who do you think will wind up getting all the franco ninny surrender monkeys?


I quit drinking their wine when Barbara Amiel started her boycott of all things fwench.
"Viva Quebec Libre" ,... up your ass!

I really can't blame most of the muslims for not wanting to be ruled by elitist insufferable pricks like Jacques Chirac.
The famous picture of George W's wife cringing as she is kissed by one of the gross bastards, is a classic.
Do the ruling class still have concubines that they take on their arm to official engagememnts in Fwance?
Au a Voir, as long as it does'nt spread to a real western country this is a good lesson we can all learn without having to really loose anything of any value..
Also like a petite France, Quebec, is Canada's mafia,librano$$ , and biker gang HQ.

Not only should we have moratorium on immigration, we should also begin prosecuting employers who hire illegals.

"Nevermind the fact that of the four "pilots" among them there was not a one that could handle a Cessna or a Piper Cub." Says who?
Guess you haven't seen this video of Atta and Jarrah. Nothing like a last will and testament.

www.netscape.com/viewstory/2006/09/30/chilling-video-of-the-9-11-pilots-previously-unseen/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.timesonline.co.uk%2Farticle%2F0%2C%2C2089-2382788%2C00.html&frame=true

"ATTA and Jarrah have never been pictured together before. Indeed, a key element of their tradecraft was that they steered clear of each other. They were leading figures in the September 11 story, not only because they flew the planes but also because they apparently had everything to live for. Unlike most of the other hijackers, who were mainly provincial Saudi fundamentalists, Atta and Jarrah fitted easily into western society.

To the Germans who knew them in Hamburg they seemed entirely normal. The tape explains this mistake. It would be hard to look less homicidal — until the camera pulls back and reveals that Atta is sitting next to an AK-47."

Years ago when the liberal elite and the cbc kept using the word Redneck when referring to Alberta, someone made a lot of money making bumper stickers, pins, T-shirts etc. PROUD TO BE AN ALBERTA REDNECK. I still have mine. The word soon disappeared in the media. So, how about the same items with PROUD TO BE AN INFIDEL, INSULT A MUSLIM
SAY MERRY CHRISTMAS.
Lots of garage sales this wkend, and lots of PIG ornaments etc. Guess where I am sending them for Christmas.

"Vive le Quebec libre!" My sentiments exactly. I'd now quite happily call their bluff. You don't like Canada? Just leave--please! This province lives on graft and deceit. (I don't buy French wine any more either.)

"Cheese eating surrender monkeys!"--Is that from the Simpsons?--suits the French in France and Quebec very well. Too bad it's an attitude that seems to be catching. And, yes, they and the rest of us will pay, big time, with interest, if appeasement wins the day.

There, there Enlightenment.

I'm sure there is a rubber room opening up for you somewhere, soon.

Just remember to turn towards the wall when you play with yourself, otherwise you will be caught on camera.

Its realy a shame whats happned to europe i mean they were once real men there now their a bunch of sniveling whimps

Hmmmm...
I posted about "My Kind of Terrorist". Now I wonder if it's a mis-direction play; throw off the scent. I'm not too sure about that video now. It seems Mr. Shehab has strange friends...

check this link - where the quotes below come from:

http://canadiancoalition.com/torontomuslims01/AhmadShehabTerrorismLinks.html

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""""And since 9-11, investigators have come to Canadia's Scotiabank, where Al-Marabh had accounts before moving to Chicago; accounts from which he made more than a dozen money transfers in the days preceding 9-11.

But in Toronto, Al-Marabh's uncle claims the money wasn't transferred to terrorists.

"The money that they say about, went to his widowed mother, went to his widowed mother who is taking care of his orphaned niece," said Ahmad Shehab.

Ahmad Shehab posted Al-Marabh's bail money last summer after Al-Marabh was arrested at the U.S. border hiding in a truck. At the bail hearing, a Canadian judge said Al-Marabh was "involved in a smuggling operation" and "fraudulent documents to elude" the authorities.

Shehab, a Muslim leader in Toronto, owns a downtown printing shop, one of four locations recently raided during the Al-Marabh investigation. Authorities say they are looking into whether Al-Marabh produced fake immigration papers here for himself and the skyjackers."""""
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Mr. Shehab has been linked to Mr. Atta and Company.

Well, I guess that's me always looking for the better, and getting the worst.

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