A Canadian soldier, killed recently in Afghanistan, is praised for saving the lives of his mates, while Hillier moves to rectify an inequity that involves wounded soldiers and their danger pay. A new Canadian poll (for what it’s worth), suggests that support for the Afghan mission is up.
In Afghanistan itself, a clutch of trained suicide killers was captured and what was discovered; yes, they’re from Pakistan and they’re now whining the whine of most Islamists who become prisoners… “We were brainwashed!”
Christie Blatchford gives us her long view, while the Pentagon blasts a Newsweek piece, basically calling it a work of fiction.
And as winter begins to approach, the Taliban scurry back to Pakistan to plan the next phase of, “retake Afghanistan”. They failed in their 2006 offensive but are planning what some call the Afghan Intifada.
cross posted @ Celestial Junk
Just give it 10min before the rants start, claiming that the polls Do Not reflect What Canadians Want & Believe.
What will Jack bin Layton say to the Taliban when he comes face to face?
"But our NDP, CBC, Globe and Mail polls say...."?
"Hey Mr. Taliban, Tally me the dead boys"?
more likely:
"Please don't hurt me Mr. Taliban"?
I'll ask the question again, because nobody, NOBODY, has ever (that I know of) said they have seen raw polling data from ANY poll. Or the list of people polled.
Perhaps support for the Afgan Mission had not dropped recently. Skewed polls can just be a ploy to try and drive public opinion ?? Polls have driven public opinion in the past but the Internet and Blogs has put a stop to that. Just ask Alan Fatheringham.
What will Jack bin Layton say to the Taliban when he comes face to face?
"But our NDP, CBC, Globe and Mail polls say...."?
"Hey Mr. Taliban, Tally me the dead boys"?
more likely:
"Please don't hurt me Mr. Taliban"?
Posted by: Doug at October 6, 2006 02:49 PM
You're a real piece of work Doug. Your willingness to make so-called jokes about fatalities tells a person all they need to know.
Hey Doug, I wouldn't smear the good name of Taliban Jack if I were you. Budd gets real defensive if you do that.
Even if it was funny ;-)
Hey Doug, I wouldn't smear the good name of Taliban Jack if I were you. Budd gets real defensive if you do that.
Even if it was funny ;-)
Posted by: Texas Canuck at October 6, 2006 03:09 PM
It wasn't the slightest bit funny. Do you think casualties are humourous? I suppose your own might be, but then that's the kind of position armchair generals like you put yourself in.
B.Hoax the affirmitive-action supporting socialist says: says "blahblahblah Dr. Foth..."
Who the hell is Allan Fatheringham?
I looked it up on wikipedia, and apparently he is a 74 year old retired "newspaperman" who once killed many trees with incessant and insipid drivel. What the hell would he know about the internet and blogs?
Doug the Israeli sockpuppet says "I'm scared of Jack Layton and the NDP!"
As well you should be. You can defame him all you like but unless Harper changes the channel fast the Tories and Libs will both bleed votes to the NDP. Hahaha!
Hate to burst you NDP love fest bubble but even if votes slip from the Libs and the Tories to the NDP they will still be a third rate, third place party, led by a jackass who looks more at home on the set of a greasy porn film than in parliment.
Looks like a quiet day on Moonbase Alpha
Having another bad day Bob? Things just starting to pile up on you? When you spew a lot of crap it does tend to pile up and overwhelm you.
The name is "Fotheringham", aka Dr. Foth. and he would have no trouble sorting you out.
There are many 74+ year olds very proficient on computers, you ought to be ashamed to make such a comment.
Taliban Jack/NDP asked:
Who the hell is Jean-Marie Guehenno? ...-
http://www.canada.com/ottawacitizen/news/story.html?id=c04d64c5-15cb-434b-9f17-4c75cbf58d82
The chief of United Nations peacekeeping operations yesterday praised Canada for deploying a sizable force to Afghanistan, saying the entire NATO deployment is providing "very important" help to the world body's work in that country.
Making the comments during a briefing on the UN's own burgeoning peacekeeping commitments around the world, Jean-Marie Guehenno effectively endorsed the arguments Prime Minister Stephen Harper made in his recent UN address on why Canada had intervened in Afghanistan.
"Canada helps us through the mission in Afghanistan, and we think it is very important that NATO is a solid and powerful force (there)," Mr. Guehenno said. "It is an essential element if one wants to maintain the credibility of the political process in Afghanistan. It is essential to have a robust NATO in Afghanistan."
Among the criticisms in Canada of the deployment to Afghanistan have been calls for Canadian troops to be used in more traditional peacekeeping roles around the world.
But Mr. Guehenno, who called the briefing to highlight how the UN is facing one of the biggest surges in its global peacekeeping commitments in a decade, welcomed Canada's decision to add tanks [my emphasis] and about 200 more troops to the 2,300-strong Canadian contingent. He also welcomed other just-announced increases to the NATO force, which is currently 20,000 strong.
"We are very happy to see the reinforcement," he said. "Canada has been a part of that, and we are grateful."..
Liz, bry, have anything to add to the conversation, other than obsessing over me? Hoaxy, "Doug" and some other sockpuppets have been trolling quite a bit lately; accordingly they invite a bit of my attention. Foth don't know squat about blogs and Harper is toast unless he changes the channel; feel free to rebutt as you wish...
Hoax Aware and I seem to agree generally about Polls. Depending on how the question is asked, you can get any answer you want.
Then as most people are too busy to be experts on the *world game of chess*, any person or group who act on the basis of poll results must be idiots.
What is the percentage of *Bobs* and *Leftdogs* in any poll anyway? Is that the accurate to within 2 to 5 percent 10 times out of twenty?
BTW the Trolls hijack the thread and add nothing. I would not bar them entirely, just allow only the posts that have a good link or idea.
Ooops, same thing as a total shut-out. = TG
TG: That's what I've decided to do with my posts. I do actually appreciate counter commentary as it adds so much to SDA. Before Dr. Dawg had to leave us, he added a lot of interesting commentary, and he's as left as any of the current crop. The difference is, Dr. Dawg was mature about it.
Debris Trail: Woof!
A dialectic beats shouting into an intellectual void devoid of any knowledge, or strategy in argument other than GWB is the Great Satan and that PM Harper is the Lesser Satan.
Must read Dante sometime.
Mark
Ottawa
LIZJ
I"m 73 now, does that mean I can have this horrible machine mastered in another year? My instructer at school says I need another three months training to be considered computer illiterate.
well right wingers, did you check the review on 'why we fight' as you were ordered to do?
3w dot imdb dot com/title/tt0436971/
an impressive 8.2 out of 10 on the ratings.
CHECK OUT THE CALIBRE OF THE PEOPLE INTERVIEWED.
and then take a real hard look at your reflex hard wired support of george dubya the 'war president'.
you fall for all the worn out phrases and excuses and propaganda from old.
people believe what they want to believe and I want to believe that dubya is a puppet of big oil and the MIC. period. all the evidence is in.
my advice to hillier, harper et al, stay the f*** out of iraq. concentrate on getting afghanistan in order regardless of how long it takes and how many twists and turns, and by the way, when are you conservatists going to put your money where your mouth is on mil. spending?
t. schmuck esq.: "concentrate on getting afghanistan in order regardless of how long it takes and how many twists and turns, and by the way, when are you conservatists going to put your money where your mouth is on mil. spending?"
Good points. One is trying to spread the word:
"Senate Committee: More money for CF, join BMD, no Navy icebreakers"
toyoufromfailinghands.blogspot.com/2006/10/senate-committee-more-money-for-cf.html
For the awful conspiracy revealed (take the time to read the links):
toyoufromfailinghands.blogspot.com/2006/10/meanwhile-back-at-big-honking-shipa.html
Semper Fi!
Mark
Ottawa
People are always predictable... to do the WRONG thing. This latest idiocy in Afghanistan only proves the point of a German Philosopher who once remarked:
"If there is anything that history teaches us, it is that Man learns nothing from history." Georg Wilhelm Friedrich Hegel.
Popular opinion dictates that supporting this war is the thing to do, and to remonstrate differently is tantamount to treason. One John Gormley reiterates this often when he spouts that anyone not supporting the war doesn't support the troops. In the hands of someone so influential, this amounts to fascism.
I remember the same rhetoric during the Vietnam era, until someone influential decided that it was not a fashionable thing any longer, and the "baby-killers" returned home (those that survived) to curses, being spit upon, etc. The once so loving and supportive public, the rhetorical lemmings they were and are, now wanting them lynched because public opinion had moved (again) to the far left.
The facts are, much to the chagrin of the proponents of the "New World Order", that the war was illegal and pushed through by big capital and it's puppets, totally contrary to international law and international wishes and consent. The facts about 9/11 are not fully clear or known, and we rely on the word of politicians and media, who are both notorious for exaggeration and misrepresentation, as well as elitist-inspired and controlled. They tell us nothing of any real worth.
But my main concern for this blog and for this time is the stupid remarks by ignorant people that those that oppose this war wish our soldiers ill-will. John Gormley ought to know better, but he clearly has his own agenda, and his radio program is launching that agenda very forcefully.
Years ago Harry Belefonte had a song out
Hey Mr Tallyman, tally me bananas, or something like that. The stmt in a previous post tweaked my memory. Anyone got a copy of the words. Someone should be able to do a good parody of that re taliban jack. Another line was something about wanting to go home, and the catchy tune is running thru my head.
Suddenly I'm supposed to care about polls?
Is this Paul Martin's government???
Al,
Warming up for the full moon tomorrow night?
"...that those that oppose this war wish our soldiers ill-will"
As far as I can see, you are the only ignorant person that spewed that stupid remark. Not supporting is quite different than wishing ill will.
I can assure you that those that curse, spit, etc will not be the ones that support our troops and their mission - today or in the future.
"The facts about 9/11 are not fully clear or known ..."
Why don't you do the chicken wire test tomorrow and report your results?
Well, "ural" or whatever that is... one of the drawbacks of a democracy is that even small minds like yours are allowed a voice in society, but I'm here to tell you that sentiment isn't shared by your warmongering idols, who are quite willing to sacrifice you and (God forbid your replication in any way, shape or form!) 'off-spring' in any one of their numerous "just" wars.
Your verbal diarrhea is about typical for the knuckle-dragging crowd, who cannot infer meaning or determine direction from any general conversation outside of a clear and concise, though guttural: "Him mean this... ugh!"
Now, why don't you go back to playing with your little tanks and jeeps and let the adults converse, hmmm... Beetle?
Well, "ural" or whatever that is... one of the drawbacks of a democracy is that even small minds like yours are allowed a voice in society, but I'm here to tell you that sentiment isn't shared by your warmongering idols, who are quite willing to sacrifice you and (God forbid your replication in any way, shape or form!) 'off-spring' in any one of their numerous "just" wars.
Your verbal diarrhea is about typical for the knuckle-dragging crowd, who cannot infer meaning or determine direction from any general conversation outside of a clear and concise, though guttural: "Him mean this... ugh!"
Now, why don't you go back to playing with your little tanks and jeeps and let the adults converse, hmmm... Beetle?
Well, "ural" or whatever that is... one of the drawbacks of a democracy is that even small minds like yours are allowed a voice in society, but I'm here to tell you that sentiment isn't shared by your warmongering idols, who are quite willing to sacrifice you and (God forbid your replication in any way, shape or form!) 'off-spring' in any one of their numerous "just" wars.
Your verbal diarrhea is about typical for the knuckle-dragging crowd, who cannot infer meaning or determine direction from any general conversation outside of a clear and concise, though guttural: "Him mean this... ugh!"
Now, why don't you go back to playing with your little tanks and jeeps and let the adults converse, hmmm... Beetle?
Three times. Now that is heavy! = TG
Not my fault this site can't accept a comment properly. Maybe, like 'some', it only hears one version, eh?
Ural, The facts about 9/11 are fully known, at the top anyway.
Y*see the BinLaden family invested Million$ of their construction corporate profits in an oil-recovery scheme guaranteed to glean fabulous profits from old oil fields.
The scheme did not work and the investments were lost.
Osama asked for his Million$ back.
The answer was, Spec investing is risky. Win some, lose some. Guess you lost.
Osama got steamed and made threats.
Threats were carried out. Simple. = TG
I would like to know how many soldiers have been killed in actual combat vs in " peacekeeping " missions as last two were.
Tonite Gen Hillier was on the CBC National News telling Brian Stewart that talks of one sort or another having been going on with the Taliban for some time, and that his soldiers are professionals who understand this.
Just days ago, Foreing Minister Peter MacKay sarcastically dismissed Jack Layton's suggestions in this regard, demanding to know what's next, ... tea with Osama? How is it that every time the government has to retreat from some rhetorical exuberance and back it's way into the world of reality, it's always Peter MacKay who gets left on the beach?
Someone should be able to do a good parody of that re taliban jack.
Posted by: mary at October 6, 2006 11:10 PM
Look on the bright side, mary. No one's going to do a parody of you. OTOH, ... where's the need?
Al,
Great start for tomorrow. Can't wait to read more of your fantasies. BTW: You would be a whole lot more credible if you knew anything about history (or current events for that matter).
Beetle? I suppose the voice in your head came up with that. Ask your voice what that means and get back to me.
"Not my fault this site can't accept a comment properly. Maybe, like 'some', it only hears one version, eh?"
Can't even accept responsibility for hitting Post 3 times.
well mr urinal, perhaps Al was misled by the fact it takes an inordinate time for posting to lock in sometimes.
this is reminiscent for me of the days of the great PDP10 where it was so crash prone, students would edit a single line of code and promptly do a save operation because of the delays and fear of losing the entire edit session.
naturally the law of diminishing returns kicked in as well as a number of other behavioural laws regarding productive activity, but the constant pounding the disk drives took saving every last little update only compounded the problem in the first place.
naturally all this is way over your head since you are obsessed with churning out insult instead of thought provoking debate.
the fact is I get raked regularly for refusing to buy into the antiquated propaganda techniques dumped on the heads on a gullible right wing by the white house masters and then get lumped in with defenders of the taliban.
IT WAS GEORGE DUBYA HIMSELF WHO INVITED THE TALIBAN TO TEXAS WHEN HE WAS GOVERNOR.
interesting.
it would appear that none other than george dubya is anti -american and anti-bush.
well thats very plausible and easy to explain; there is no profound contradiction here, the simple fact he is a bluthering dunce who cant remember simple colloquialisms for instance (see bushisms parts 1 thru 5).
do YOU prominently display the maple leaf AND stars & stipes on YOUR front wall during july? I do. and have for some 8 years now.
george bush needs to get a jfk done on him asap. he is the single greatest threat to security in the world right now.
Budd:
Yes, talks with the Taliban go on all the time.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2006/10/05/wafghan05.xml
The Brits had a sit down chat with them as well.
Mostly the Taliban come to size up their opponents;
then go back pick up their rifles and ammunition and start shooting at each other again.
"I held a Shura (meeting) with the town elders to discuss the deteriorating situation just before the attacks began," Major Rex said in an exclusive interview with The Daily Telegraph.
"Several of those present eyeballed me throughout, and I subsequently discovered they were the Taliban commanders coming to size me up."
...The first major attack began at 1.50am when a Gurkha corporal spotted armed men "leopard crawling" towards the compound 60 yards away. He opened fire killing four.
Ten minutes later a coordinated assault began from three directions. Every one of the six sand-bagged positions around the compound and on its roof were hit by rocket-propelled grenades. The command post on the roof received four separate hits.
For many of the Gurkhas, seven of whom had just finished training, it was their first experience of combat. "For the first five minutes under fire I was just so frightened," said Tkam Paha Dur, a 19-year-old Gurkha rifleman, to the amusement of his comrades."After that it became just like a live firing exercise."
With the Taliban closer than 50 yards, Rifleman Nabin Rai, 20, manning a heavy machinegun on the roof, had several rounds ricochet off his weapon before a bullet went through the gunsight and hit him in the face.
"His commander called for him to be medi-vacced out, but he refused to come down from the roof," said Major Rex. "Later he was again hit, this time in the helmet. He sat down and had a cigarette, then went back to his position."
With a full moon negating the advantage of British night vision equipment, the Taliban launched another full-scale assault the next night, using dried up underground watercourses to move men and ammunition around the British position.
"We took two or three RPG hits on one position and significant machinegun fire from a range of about 20 yards," said Lt Angus Mathers, 26.
"They had used tunnels and knocked holes in the compound walls to get close."
The Gurkhas threw 21 grenades at the Taliban position before an Apache helicopter arrived overhead.
The pilot later described the situation as "like the Wild West", with tracer converging on him from numerous positions. He hovered 20 yards above the compound firing back with the helicopter's cannon while the empty shell cases cascaded on to the heads of the Gurkhas below.
The Gurkhas faced constant danger from several snipers and Taliban mortar teams.
"The snipers had positions in buildings two rooms back with holes cut through the walls to give them a field of fire," said Major Rex.
British troops could not show themselves during the day and a signaller was shot in the back, but survived his injuries. In response the Gurkhas flew in a specialist sniper. "It was cat and mouse for a couple of days," said Major Rex. "Then our sniper, Corporal Imbahadar Gurung, got four confirmed kills."
Two mortar positions were spotted and destroyed by aircraft but the third continued to elude British spotters for several days. "Eventually my JTAC (ground-air coordinator) caught the smoke as it fired out of the corner of his eye," said Major Rex. "An American aircraft dropped a 2,000lb bomb on the spot and that ended the mortar fire." After a particularly heavy attack Major Rex used the Afghan police radio, which was known to be listened to by the Taliban, to send them a message through an interpreter.
"I said 'you have two paths here. If the attacks continue you will suffer. We are being restrained. We take no pleasure in this. We are here to help you if you want a better life. It is in your hands.' "
By the time the attacks began to peter out the British estimated that they had killed 100 Taliban fighters. Three British soldiers were injured.
....
Occasionally, they drop an axe blade into the back of the head of CF personnel while seated in a 'shura' meeting as well.
On the whole pretty neighbourly folk, firing RPGs, mortars, and sniper fire, wouldn't you say?
Just like having a sit down chat, tea and biscuits with the Queen eh?
I figure if I was over there in a different time and circumstances but for the same reasons as the CF personnel.
I would be doing the sniper thing.
go out and hide in some abandon building with just the right combination of 'vistas' with some toilet paper and a couple tins of bully beef and wait them out.
gotta keep the cell phone switched off to save battery power.
has schmuck checked in today? yes captain right on schedule which for him is the usual 5 minutes late.
report?
he killed 2 using his nite vision scope and then moved to a new location but cant say where over the unsecured airwaves.
then I show up at hqts when the toilet paper runs out, to fill in the details, get some decent food and go out again until my stint is over.
calm cool and collected, none of the dramatics or big explosions the americans go for.
kill the fukers where they stand with a pristine clear conscience, those defilers of humanity liberty and dignity.
Attacks on Women Soar in Mosul
A recent spike in attacks on women has forced many in the northern Iraqi city of Mosul to retreat into their homes or resort to armed escort by relatives and tribal guards. In recent weeks, Mosul residents have witnessed an unprecedented rise in the number of female corpses found throughout the city.
Alaa al-Badrani said her friend, a school principal, was kidnapped from her home in the Bakr district of the city by an armed gang. Her body was found with her throat slit in a construction site in the same district.
http://tinyurl.com/qb7zy
Neighbours, who asked not to be named, told Aljazeera that the school principal had received threats on September 20 and was asked to pay “protection money”. One neighbour said: “But they didn’t wait more than two hours before taking her. “She was an outstanding woman and very religious so we do not know why this happened to her.”
=========== from daily war news ==== TG
Attacks on Women Soar in Mosul
A recent spike in attacks on women has forced many in the northern Iraqi city of Mosul to retreat into their homes or resort to armed escort by relatives and tribal guards. In recent weeks, Mosul residents have witnessed an unprecedented rise in the number of female corpses found throughout the city.
Alaa al-Badrani said her friend, a school principal, was kidnapped from her home in the Bakr district of the city by an armed gang. Her body was found with her throat slit in a construction site in the same district.
http://tinyurl.com/qb7zy
Neighbours, who asked not to be named, told Aljazeera that the school principal had received threats on September 20 and was asked to pay “protection money”. One neighbour said: “But they didn’t wait more than two hours before taking her. “She was an outstanding woman and very religious so we do not know why this happened to her.”
=========== from daily war news ==== TG
Al . . . hey it*s easy to do when it stalls you can*t tell it posts. Just sits there. = TG
"The facts are, much to the chagrin of the proponents of the "New World Order", that the war was illegal and pushed through by big capital and it's puppets, totally contrary to international law and international wishes and consent. The facts about 9/11 are not fully clear or known, and we rely on the word of politicians and media, who are both notorious for exaggeration and misrepresentation, as well as elitist-inspired and controlled. They tell us nothing of any real worth.
Posted by: Al at October 6, 2006 10:15 PM
Al, you're a moron.
Repeat after me... Afghanistan is not Iraq, Afghanistan is a different country from Iraq.
There, now. The UN approved of the Afghanistan misssion. International Law is/was on side for the liberation of Afghanistan
Please brush up on your geography.
Hey, "Zippy"
My geography's fine, and so is my memory. What you forget is the original reason for Canada's involvement in Afghanistan which was humanitarian. Funny, that seems to be lost on everyone now that Bush is running the show?
Your buddy "Beetle" (Baily) and you both know squat about history, and have only rhetoric to substantiate your present beliefs. Throughout most of modern history, the mindless mob seen in the forefront of most coups and fascist dictators presented the same demeanor and reasoning ability while using their sheer weight in numbers to intimidate and crush any thinking and reasonable opposition. One of the first cries of the fascist and his dupe is "TRAITOR!"
Interesting that people like ural and co. are among the foremost to bitch about the integrity and honesty of politicians around election times, yet somehow between those times those same politicians seem to acquire absolute integrity -- especially when they woo their dupes with the things the dupe likes and wants to hear most. Of course, fear is the underlying emotion of any Neanderthal, who really wouldn't know what to do if he thought for even a moment that his government might be playing him for the fool that he is.
Like they say in England... pity!
As far as 9/11 goes, there are a lot of questions I'd like answered, but it seems the Cro-Magnon element is satisfied with what we've been given for an explanation, and that no other opinion than theirs really counts.
Study history? I have... for almost fifty years. How long's it been for you? I also know a good con job when I see one, but what will be interesting is to see what explanation you will have for not being more thorough in your investigations when all of this shit hits the fan as it inevitably will. Truth, though despised in this world, always seems to come out on top.
So, Beetle and co., the floor is yours. Maybe I'll respond, maybe not. HISTORICALLY, it's proven a fruitless endeavor striving with the proletariat.
What would be a legal war.
In answer to a questions re how many have been killed in peace keeping operations over the years. Several months ago there was a memorial service for all cdns killed in these operations. The total was over 100 have died. All the leftists have failed to realize that unless there is peace, you can't have peace keeping.
And, did you hear the govt of Sudan say that if any UN forces try to come into his country, he would take that as an INVASION, and it would be illegal.
Where, in the US, Cdn or any other western countries Constitution does it define war as legal or illegal.
Just like having a sit down chat, tea and biscuits with the Queen eh?
Posted by: Hans Rupprecht at October 7, 2006 03:49 AM
A very grim account. So, ... should all these talks be cancelled? Are you going to start ridiculing Gen Hillier who says they should continue. What, in other words, is your point?
Define war as legal, or illegal ? Huh ?
I believe this line of thinking comes from the United Nations. Actually, from Maurice Strong, Oak Lake, Manitoba. If you want some really, really interesting reading (all day long) google Maurice Strong. Will explain the unexplainable of what is happening in the world today. You will even see why Paul Martin acted in such strange ways. I, myself, was once a PMPM backer. Was.
Tallyman Layton says he knows what Canadians want, he must have goofed badly in his last Seance because the support for the Afghanistan war is up substantially. That's not what he's been spouting.
Back to the Chrystal Ball Jack, take your white feather along.
Budd said:
"Are you going to start ridiculing Gen Hillier who says they should continue."
Oh I think Gen. Hillier is a big boy who can take care of himself.
I never said they should stop, but the simple fact is that you need to realistically assess whether the Taliban WANT to talk, beyond the report from their rifles, machineguns and mortars.
After 5 years since 9/11, they still ain't interested. The dustup WOT will continue unabated for the forseeable future, particularly in light of the Pakistani ISI involvement with the Taliban genesis and support since 1989.
Given NATO secured over 1 million rounds of ammo in Operation Medusa, these aren't just sheep herders keeping the wolves or leopards at bay.
The Taliban likes to play for keeps, realistically that isn't changing anytime soon.
I support our troops I don't support the war. There is a difference.
There is a lot of emotion involved. What can be said? Young men and women are dying so our Leader can look important. I don't like to see Canadians dying for an American war. The war is wrong for a lot of reasons. Why not take Jack Layton's advice and try talking peace with the Taliban?? It can't hurt. The war isn't helping anything.
ok4ua
We would rather that Mr Layton back up his advice with constructive action, such as going to Afghanistan and talking peace with the Taliban himself. That would leave our Leader free to concentrate on productive tasks, such as supporting our troops.
Cheers
note how quickly Al learns the 'error of his ways' regarding the 'post' button. (minor minor issue but not overlooked by mr tg.)
is urinal going to follow suit rectifying his errors?
Your "Leader" is taking all he can from this war. Talks are starting to take place.