North Korea claims to have tested their bomb.
So far I can't find any confirmation of seismic monitoring sites detecting it, which one would expect if their test was successful.
Update: Still no seismic confirmation. US Geological Survey apparently reports "No unusual seismic activity on Korean Peninsula". We have to consider the possibility that this is a bluff from the Norks, until someone confirms that it was detected.
North Korea is such a dysfunctional place it's possible the test failed, but no one would admit it so they're announcing it officially anyway.
If anyone finds a link of seismic confirmation, leave it in the comments.
Update 2: The bad news seems to be confirmed by South Korea's Institute of Geoscience and Mineral Resources, which detected a tremor of 3.58 to 3.7 at the time of the test.
Very bad news indeed.
Update 3 Real time seismic data from Inchon, Korea is here.
It certainly looks like something happened, but we'll let the experts interpret it.
Update 4 USGS also registers an earthquake in North Korea. They identify it as a 4.2, centred 45 miles north of Kimchaek, North Korea.
I think we can conclude the test was real.
If anyone wants to listen to live audio covering this, Matt Drudge is on the air:
http://www.kfi640.com/pages/streaming.html
In other good news, 700 Iraqi Police Officers Poisoned:
foxnews.com/story/0,2933,218678,00.html
Britain's Police Chief Issues Ominous Warning that Internment of Muslim's May Be Necessary In Response to a Catastrophic Attack (Does he know something)
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Thank you Jimmy Carter (and Bill Clinton)!
In other good news, 700 Iraqi Poice Officers Poisoned.
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,218678,00.html
Britain's Police Chief Issues Ominous Warning that Internment of Muslim's May Be Necessary In Response to a Catastrophic Attack (Does he know something)
http://littlegreenfootballs.com/weblog/?entry=22879_Report-_UK_Metro_Police_Chief_Issues_Ominous_Warning&onlygreenfootballs.com/weblog/?entry=22879_Report-_UK_Metro_Police_Chief_Issues_Ominous_W
I havent found any seismic info either....I guess it depends on how large the test was....assuming it happened.....
Who knows what if really true coming out of the Hermit Kingdom.
*those links... but seriously, Jaeger, you should read those stories if you haven't already
Go to little green footballs dot com.
Both USGS and S. Korea (3.58 Richter) are confirming seismic activity.
I've heard this on multiple blogs. People are hearing this information listening live to the major U.S. broadcast networks.
Seismic confirmation link
http://www.townhall.com/blog/MaryKatharineHam
I've heard reports that the "ding-bat" signal is shining brightly in the night sky above U.N. headquarters. Answering Kofi's desperate call is none other than chief inspector Hans Blix to save the day yet again from bad WMD rumors!
I wonder if Hans ever asked the question: "excuse me, does your dog bite?"
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Just heard on the radio that USGS confirms test.
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Drudge reports (just heard it live) USGS will hold a news conference shortly.
Just heard on the radio that USGS confirms test.
AP reports on their website that the S. Koreans confirms geologic results. Can't leave link due to spam filter and Kate ignoring my friggin' emails months ago offering to help her solve her bot problem using one of the exact same approaches LGF uses.
Drudge reports (just heard it live) USGS will hold a news conference shortly.
Just heard on the radio that USGS confirms test.
Cooking with W., episode II
Place crosshairs over the small country north of the 54th parallel, push 'launch', wait 20 minutes until mushrooms become visible, sear until browned and let simmer for 20 years. Turn said country over to the PLO. Problem(s) solved.
USGS confirms it too (but 3.5 on the Richter scale apparently doesn't jive with the 400 KT the North Koreans were apparently going for). Scroll down to the updates for the graph:
http://hotair.com/archives/2006/10/08/report-north-korea-tests-nuke/
http://ashesoftyranny.blogspot.com
Connect the dots ....?? N Korea .. Iran .. Iraq
I instantly had the same feeling I often had as a kid in the 1950s. A sickening, sinking feeling.
Makes Afganistan look like a walk in the park.
Breaking!
CNN reports that the UN Security Council has unanimously adopted a statement that they are deeply concerned.
http://edition.cnn.com/2006/US/10/08/us.north.korea.ap/index.html
Relax. They've got it under control.
USGS reports magnitude 4.2 (reviewed by seismologist), not 3.58.
http://earthquake.usgs.gov/eqcenter/recenteqsww/Quakes/ustqab.php#details
Due to the logarithmic nature of the Righter scale, this is 6x more powerful.
Therefore, the N. Korean nuclear test may have been more successful than first reports indicate.
As always, consult your local expert.
USGS DETECTED IT - CONFIRMED AT NATIONAL NEWS WATCH
http://www.nationalnewswatch.com/
Kim jong has saved face. The stealth poisoning of 700 Iraqi keepers of peace and stability is the immediate ominous thing.
Now that is a serious set back. = TG
I don't think the North Korean nuclear test is the big story tonight.
I think it's a ruse. I believe it is a distraction.
Charles Johnson at Little Green Footballs posted a story tonight that I consider bigger: a possible attack on the home of English-speaking civilization?
Britain, i.e., London.
Report: UK Metro Police Chief Issues Ominous Warning
http://littlegreenfootballs.com/weblog/?entry=22879_Report-_UK_Metro_Police_Chief_Issues_Ominous_Warning&only
It's speculative so don't take your eye or thoughts off of North Korea and Japan, but consider it in context. It may be part of a larger plan.
I don't think the North Korean nuclear test is the big story tonight.
I think it's a ruse. I believe it is a distraction.
Charles Johnson posted a story tonight that I consider bigger: a possible attack on the home of English-speaking civilization?
Britain, i.e., London.
Report: UK Metro Police Chief Issues Ominous Warning
(link above... stupid spam filter won't let me post it again)
It's speculative so don't take your eye or thoughts off of North Korea and Japan, but consider it in context. It may be part of a larger plan.
http://littlegreenfootballs.com/weblog/?entry=22879_Report-_UK_Metro_Police_Chief_Issues_Ominous_Warning&only
So the U.S. Administration has egg all over its face again. After alll their bluster about not tolerating a nuke test by North Korea, the Norks have apparently called their bluff. The U.S. now has the delightful choice between eating shit or blasting North Korea and kissing the hostage city of Seoul goodbye. Oh for the glory days of Regan or Nixon, when foreign policy was made by competent advisors and cabinet ministers and the U.S. was internationally respected.
May God help us all!
May God help us all!
Congressional pederasts are off the front pages, North Korea has alienated itslef from its only friend - China, and the American people are now facing their first atomic enemy in nearly 20 years. I'm sure as hell that the average American wouldn't think that this is the time to turn the country over to Murtha, Michael Moore and the daily Kos.
The administration does not have egg on their faces. Think hard and you'll see that the dear leader has just doomed the democrats to the wilderness for another election cycle.
Don't think I'm personally happy about this - my company does 1/3 of its business with south korea and Japan - so, I'll be working on my resume tomorrow.
I hope there's not a panicked flight from Seoul - but if I lived there I'd be packing a bag just in case.
According to the Associated Press, the device was the equivalent of only 550 tons of TNT. That is a very small bomb indeed... if they were going for a 400 kiloton explosion, then this bomb fizzled, producing less than 1% of the expected yield.
well, looks like ol' kimmie kim wasnt bluffing after all.
where are the gloaters now?
uranium is the great equalizer.
there had better start a MAJOR shift in 'foreign policy' methods in the white house or there will be a mushroom cloud of some composition and size over the lower 49th in this lifetime.
the americans have got to learrrrrrrrrn, pleasssssssse, the way to impress foreigners isnt to go around beating up the little guy all the time.
that only works in the school yard.
nowadays, some of the 'kids' in the 'school yard' are going back to the 'science lab' and building crude 'hand grenades' which they will stuff down the pants of the 'school yard bully' in order to stop the nonsense.
leading the pack is the guy from korea who's a little unstable but expert at organizing things. he certainly has a lot of irons in the fire.
naturally in order to deflect blame, mr kim junior will have an even more ticked off 'student' from the middle east actually do the dirty deed.
so how many have you right wings have seen 'why we fight' like I told you to?
question:
IF the bushist went to iraq on the grounds of wmd's and either
- found none or
- found some evidence but not the wmd's or
- found some ummmm, WW I era mustard gas wmd's or
- have had the time to comb the entire friggin country by now, and assured themselves the iraq wmd crisis NO LONGER EXISTS, then why dear dubya groupies, are there still multitudes of u.s. mil personnel roaming about?
as far as the 'democracy' thing. THAT is a red herring.
if they really want that, do the things that promote it and start by not shooting all kinds of civilians in order to get the jihadists.
and now for your enlightenment, a quick rundown of the differences between democrats and republicans:
democrats
- challenge themselve to a 27 hour marathon across death valley
republicans use loopholes they have cleverly planted in resource management regulations to make sure their friends can set up mining operations surrounding unique places like death valley
democrats win and end wars like FDR and Truman
republicans start wars like the 'war president' aka the alfred e neuman wannabe.
former democrat presidents like Jimmy Carter invest many hours of their own time being an example by helping build homes for the underpriviliged via habitats for humanity.
former republican presidents like gerald ford aka bozo the clown hobnob with the ubber priviliged on the golf links.
democrats like Clinton have illicit sex with an attractive ADULT woman aaaaand lie about it for a while
republicans send sexually laced messages to MINORS and we will soon see how much lieing is done about that
etc etc
lets see if this gets past the censors....
well, looks like ol' kimmie kim wasnt bluffing after all.
where are the gloaters now?
uranium is the great equalizer.
there had better start a MAJOR shift in 'foreign policy' methods in the white house or there will be a mushroom cloud of some composition and size over the lower 49th in this lifetime.
the americans have got to learrrrrrrrrn, pleasssssssse, the way to impress foreigners isnt to go around beating up the little guy all the time.
that only works in the school yard.
nowadays, some of the 'kids' in the 'school yard' are going back to the 'science lab' and building crude 'hand grenades' which they will stuff down the pants of the 'school yard bully' in order to stop the nonsense.
leading the pack is the guy from korea who's a little unstable but expert at organizing things. he certainly has a lot of irons in the fire.
naturally in order to deflect blame, mr kim junior will have an even more ticked off 'student' from the middle east actually do the dirty deed.
so how many have you right wings have seen 'why we fight' like I told you to?
question:
IF the bushist went to iraq on the grounds of wmd's and either
- found none or
- found some evidence but not the wmd's or
- found some ummmm, WW I era mustard gas wmd's or
- have had the time to comb the entire friggin country by now, and assured themselves the iraq wmd crisis NO LONGER EXISTS, then why dear dubya groupies, are there still multitudes of u.s. mil personnel roaming about?
as far as the 'democracy' thing. THAT is a red herring.
if they really want that, do the things that promote it and start by not shooting all kinds of civilians in order to get the jihadists.
and now for your enlightenment, a quick rundown of the differences between democrats and republicans:
democrats
- challenge themselve to a 27 hour marathon across death valley
republicans use loopholes they have cleverly planted in resource management regulations to make sure their friends can set up mining operations surrounding unique places like death valley
democrats win and end wars like FDR and Truman
republicans start wars like the 'war president' aka the alfred e neuman wannabe.
former democrat presidents like Jimmy Carter invest many hours of their own time being an example by helping build homes for the underpriviliged via habitats for humanity.
former republican presidents like gerald ford aka bozo the clown hobnob with the ubber priviliged on the golf links.
democrats like Clinton have illicit sex with an attractive ADULT woman aaaaand lie about it for a while
republicans send sexually laced messages to MINORS and we will soon see how much lieing is done about that
etc etc
well dear SDA moderator, looks like youre back to looking for those who preach to the converted eh?
have a nice nuclear holocaust thanks to george dubya whose handlers saw to it that for the first time in TWO HUNDRED FUCKING YEARS the president alone can declare war WITHOUT agreement from congress.
and it only took 6 months aka iraq invasion to do it the first time.
and you dipwads stand with a fuckhead like that merely because hes a republican.
adios assholes
Hmm, silly comment filter.
The AP is reporting (quoting a South Korean geological institute) that the estimated yield of the nuke was only 550 tons. The bomb dropped on Hiroshima was about 27 times more powerful. And according to the Russians, NK was attempting a 400 kiloton explosion. It fizzled.
Hey Ed, that's interesting.
Sad, really.
[ Oct 8/06 ] Sweden
Tonight there were power shortages all over Sweden’s second largest city, Gothenburg. *Youth gangs* took the opportunity, spreading the European tradition of *Ramadan Riots.* Within an hour most schools and commercial centers in the north eastern suburbs were vandalized.
- It’s complete chaos in north eastern Gothenburg. *We’ve sent all available police units but there’s no way we can stop the vandalisation,* police spokesman Frank Karlsson tells gp.se.
- Several youth gangs are wandering about smashing windows and breaking into schools, malls, banks and a retirement center.
Not a word about this on the wires...
=== ht tp /littlegreenfootballs. com/weblog/
Add to this the clashes in France where police unions are asking for armored vehicles and combat gear to deal the Muslim youth criminal gangs.
=== ht tp /tinyurl. com/pjdx6
Consider also, the clashes with youth gangs in the Windsor district of the UK. Yes that is the Windsor of Windsor Castle, royal family.
=== ht tp /tinyurl. com/o249o
I recall the last message from Osama; something about bringing great grief to Nato forces in Iraq first and then branching out from there.
With the stealth food poisoning of 700 Iraq police and the marked increase of kidnappings and killing by Iran backed agents like Muqtada Al Sadr and his Black Bands, this is justification for bringing in thousands more Nato troops.
This should also bring a new reality to all shrinking Liberals that recalling any of the troops is the worst possible move at this time.
Abandoning all those newly trained police forces, public sector workers, ngos and contractors would result in a bloodbath of immense size.
This is a time of testing for the free world. Hesitation or pulling punches this time will result in the most ugly of messes. = TG
Christoph, I agree with your 1:30am post/comment.
BTW that long link you had for LGF was flustered by the filter and did not work.
Try pasting those loooong links in the window at TinyUrl. com and copy and paste the SHoRT url into the comments here.
Then just space like ht tp / and one bar. Its nothing to close it up and add : / to use it. filter usually misses it. = TG
Ed Minchau
How could an uncontrolled chain reaction "fizzle"?
If AP is correctly reporting the apparent low yield, it could have been, quite literally, 550 tons of conventional high explosives in a deep shaft, to fake a test, but that seems pretty far out - even for the NorKs.
Ed Minchau
How could an uncontrolled chain reaction "fizzle"?
If AP is correctly reporting the apparent low yield, it could have been, quite literally, 550 tons of conventional high explosives in a deep shaft, to fake a test, but that seems pretty far out - even for the NorKs.
Here, TG, is the link. It's an important read. Anyone here would be remiss not to study this article.
Report: UK Metro Police Chief Issues Ominous Warning
http://tinyurl.co.uk/nsxk
Wretchard at Belmont Club said:
"Of all the dangers that the soothing antiwar left
has convinced us don't exist the most mythical of
all is the myth of our safety.
They've convinced us all that we are not
threatened by any but our own evil selves.
And they will continue to coo into our ears, even as
the knife comes plunging in."
genwolf said...
Well wretchard you are right about where the blame for this is probably going to be sheeted. Of course it is incredible clear that China's policy of engagement and her assurances are both completly bankrupt, as is South Koreas sunshine policy. But then those accounts have been in the red a long time and yet the policies have continued trading, and in good measure largely becasue the guardians of credibility - the mainstream media, leftwing academeia - never issued so much as a default notice. What is especially perverse is that at every step along the way the US has fulffilled to the letter the expecations of the guardians of credibility - insisting being multilateral, offering concessions but with clear conditions, working with and through allies, being extremely measured in the belicosity of statements made - all in the face of a North Korea whose behaviour makes the recent antics of Chavez or Amadinejad appear sober by comparison.
Well now the world has the first installment of it's reward for the vigorousness of it's assualt on the stock of American credibility and deranged and obsessive hostility to it's president. I hope it is everything that was wished for as future installments are going to be of a similar nature. ...-
So the Little Rat's Ass, Kimmie Ding Dong tested a Nuke just as he said he would. What could anyone do about it? We huffed and puffed and sat in wait.Wee Kimmie do what wee Kimmie say and that appears to be whatever he likes, go to Hell please, (surely he's very polite).
Now let's move on to Iran and the Madman at the helm there. We "suspect" his nuclear ambitions go beyond Energy. He has a different type of power in mind. What can be done about it? What ARE we doing about it?
Guess what? We're huffing and puffing and sitting in wait until he too has a big bang.
How stupid can the Western civilizations be?
The UN is not our saviour, that organization is awash with Dregs. We have to concern ourselves with the fact Kimmie and the Madman of Iran will have no qualms about using their Nuclear power when THEY see fit.
What are we doing about it?
What can we do about it? WE SIT IN WAIT.
This is bad news indeed....I have an idea!....Let's get the UN to issue them a stern warning... again. Then send the UN Kyoto and Nuke police to ticket them as redily as they ticket NATO antions....then we get the moonbat left to b;ame Bush for Turning NKorea into a west hostile nuke nation... hold rallies, form circles hold hands and sing Kum-BY-Ah while Jack Layton jets over to NK to give Kim and his commissars free access to his sphincter while a promising to disband our military and drop out of NATO in return for not scaring us any further.....That'll show 'em!
Send the right message I say
Christoph,
Not a surprise. I have long said that there will be large scale expulsions from Europe. I was giving it 10 years, and please this is not an endorsement of that just a prediction.
The aboriginal people of Europe are....Europeans. They are not the immigrant society that North America has become, both pro and con there.
Europe struggles with the concept of multiculturalism. How can you be Italian if you arent Italian and all the cultural implications that has, language, religon value system etc....
An act of terrorism like what Blair is implying would bring those elements of society out. Question si which county will you see it in first, The Netherlands with its high percentage of Muslims, or UK with a relatively low percentage and open society...
Once again not an endorsement more of a observation. And how will North america respond to this, with silence or will they condemn with words but not actions?
Maurice Strong-Tongsun Park are the bosses.
Paul Martin, Jr., fundamentally, clearly, will be implementing Kyoto.
The moonies have won. ...-
SOUTH KOREAN TO LEAD UNITED NATIONS
South Korea's foreign minister [Ban Ki-moon] will be formally endorsed as the secretary general of the United Nations today after emerging as the best of a weak field of candidates. ...-
national newswatch
Taliban Jack Layton unveils his defence policy. ...-
Avro Arrow replica unveiled in Toronto
Jimmy Carter, interview with CNN (upon his return from North Korea), June 22, 1994
JUDY WOODRUFF: .... Are you absolutely persuaded that the North Koreans are going to honor this agreement, that while the talks are going on that it's not just a matter of buying time on the part of the North Koreans, that they will not secretly pursue the program they were pursuing earlier, nuclear program?
JIMMY CARTER: Judy, I'm convinced. But I said this when I got back from North Korea, and people said that I was naive or gullible and so forth. I don't think I was. In my opinion, this was one of those perfect agreements where both sides won and got what they wanted and there were no-nobody blinked, nobody had to yield.... I think the most important lesson is that we should not ever avoid direct talks, direct conversations, direct discussions and negotiations with the main person in a despised or misunderstood or condemned society who could actually resolve the issue. And we went through this for ten years when nobody in our government would meet or talk to Yasir Arafat. The Norwegians did, and they were the ones that brought the peace agreement last summer....
Food poisonings in Iraq, tainted spinach and now tainted lettuce in the US. Who works on many of these US farms-illegals. How many of those illegals are really mexicans. Close all our borders to all immigrants from any asian or mideast country.
Will the western nations finally wake up and tell all their leftist kook politicians that we are on the verge of ww3. The UN is a toothless org that is just a place for a lot of dictators to send delegates to live the high life in NY, while their people at home starve, and they blast the US for all its excesses.
Just curious, what ever happened to the Iraqi ambassador to the UN. Did he go back to Iraq, the wonderful place of Saddam, or is he incognito in the US.
How is the msm going to blame this test on Bush.
Interesting article. Essentially saying the Bush policy of robust and aggressive containement is working with the assistance of the region.
Food for thought.
http://tcsdaily.com/article.aspx?id=100606A
Full moon: Mo Strong-Park have pulled off a coup. North Korea is the winner.
Cheers, Mo.
Kim can now complete, unmolested, his "Great Socialist Experiment". ...-
Peter Grynch comments at Belmont Club:
Now for a bit of paranoia:
It is in the Republican’s interest to support North Korea's claims so that the “security moms” will vote for the party of strong national defense.
It is in the Democrat’s interest to support North Korea's claims so that they can blame Bush and energize the Bush-hating wing of their party to vote in November.
It is in the UN’s interest to support
North Korea's claims so that the military option of invading North Korea and forcing regime change is now off the table. You don’t invade nuclear-armed states.
Don’t expect anyone to step forward and point out that Emperor Kim Jong Il isn’t wearing any clothes…
Re the Arrow. Funny isn't it how Dief cancelled and destroyed all Arrows, in a hissy fit costing us millions, and the loss of many talented people to the US space program. Then, in another hissy fit, Chretain cancelled a helicopter deal, again costing us billions.
Anyone remember the cartoon strip re the Avro, the models sold to thousands of families for Christmas toys. My oldest son, who was a great fan of the Arrow, has never voted Conservative because of this and he was only 11 at the time.
Take a good look at the model, and remember that it was designed and built over 40 years ago. Where would our aerospace program be today if Dief had not had his hissy fit.
UGH: The Hour returns tonight with BS as guest.
Mary: They already are blaming Bush! A guy from Montreal called a talk show this morning and said it's George Bush's fault because he attacked Iraq instead of North Korea! We know where the Left stands, enjoy all the freedoms and safety of our World but do not fight to protect it. That's what we get from Countries like France and our Province of Quebec, at least their Political representation.
Bottom line, we have no damned idea what we have living among us, thanks to loose immigratiion under the dunderheaded Liberals, too busy infighting to care what was going on.
Taking care of business they were not.