You’re all wearing your Irony Pants, eh? Good. Here we go:
“Gary Trudeau, creator of the ‘Doonesbury’ comic strip, says cartoonists should draw the line when it comes to offending people.”
Guess which people, though? Starts with an “M”…
You’re all wearing your Irony Pants, eh? Good. Here we go:
“Gary Trudeau, creator of the ‘Doonesbury’ comic strip, says cartoonists should draw the line when it comes to offending people.”
Guess which people, though? Starts with an “M”…
i can honestly say that i have heard enough crap regarding the ‘religion of peace’….from this point on, i will not allow the ‘religion of peace’ to stereotype me in a bigoted way…i am proud to be an infidel, i will stand up to religious bigotry from this point on..i will call members of the ‘religion of peace’ on their crap every chance i get…in the shops, on the street…..if the numbers in canada are even close to what they r in britain….that means near 40% of the members of the ‘religion of peace’ support sharia law, ergo, they support extremist points of view….with an estimated billion a year in laundered money going through canada to terrorists, do u not think we all should call members of the ‘religion of peace’ on their crap???
btw……GO ARMY
Count me in!
Gary Trudeau had no problems in the past offending certain groups of people, though:
A November 1972 strip depicting Zonker telling a little boy in a sandbox a fairy tale ending in the protagonist being awarded “his weight in fine, uncut Turkish hashish” raised an uproar.
In February 1976, Andy Lippincott, a classmate of Joanie’s, told her he’s gay. The Miami Herald decided it wasn’t “ready for homosexuality in a comic strip.”
In June 1989, several days’ comics (which had already been drawn and written) had to be replaced with repeats, due to the humor of the strips being considered in bad taste in light of the mass murder of democracy demonstrators in Tiananmen Square in Beijing, People’s Republic of China.
In November 1991, a series of strips implied that former Vice-President Dan Quayle had connections with drug dealers.
In June 1994, the Roman Catholic Church took issue with a series of strips dealing with the book Same-Sex Unions in Premodern Europe by John Boswell. A few newspapers dropped single strips from the series, and the Pentagraph from Bloomington, Illinois, refused to run the entire series.
in 1995 Mark, a gay character from the strip, was seen in the final days of Berke Breathed’s comic Outland heading off with a main character from that series, the previously-heterosexual Steve Dallas.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doonesbury
In February 1998, a strip dealing with Bill Clinton’s sex scandal was removed from the comics pages of a number of newspapers because it included the phrases “oral sex” and “semen-streaked dress”.
In November 2000, a strip was not run in some newspapers when Duke says of then-Presidential candidate George W. Bush: “He’s got a history of alcohol abuse and cocaine.”
In 2003 a cartoon that publicised the recent medical discovery that masturbation reduces the risk of prostate cancer, alluding to masturbation as “self-dating”, was not run in many papers.
Wonder if Trudeau caught “Piss Christ”?
Carry being a typical hippy liberal has to have all his statements decrypted from liberalese to English….Liberal intent is always encripted in their spoken lexicon.
Essentially what Gary means by “not offending” certain people is that the will not insult anyone he is sure will take offence and do something about it….like kill or maim him….I presume this will also inclide all of our other barbaric enemies like ethnic gangs, North Koreans and Red China.
Liberal self censorship reacts to personal threats.
Welcome to the timerous self absobed world of craven lineraldom.
Well, when the muslims enact Sharia after defeating us in the west I hope they stone him to death first.
DOONSBURY is garbage it was GARY TRUEDAUs junk that was trashing RONALD REAGAN even before he was ingagerated back in 1981 but we know the he like arron mgruder creator of that BOONDOCKS crap are both ultraliberal reptiles
Redux – got it in one…cowards, the lot of them.
Henry said: “cowards, the lot of them.”
In a word , correct!
Trudeau lives in the heart of the new illegal alien invasion zone of the US South West…he lives in a city where this element is so numerous that racist agitators are recruiting these ethnic alien masses into an aggressive, militant, racist movement to displace US citizens from the SW on the basis of their race.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1687083/posts
Trudeau has lived in a city in the thick of La Raza/Azlan/Reconquista race rioting and illegal alien militance and yet I have seen nothing in his so called cutting edge political cartoons about this new civil scourge in his nation….except a plea to turn these aggressive alien racists into “visiting workers” and offer them total immunity…..talk about self destructive craven pacifism.
“Cowardly” is quite apropos in describing Trudeau’s brand of politics.
The biggest Hippy Org around ? The United Nations. See Andrew Coyne’s ” We have allowed this to happen”. Nat Post.
It is time to start a new religion, called Backlash for rop stupidity. Call your newspaper and protest Trudeau’s comic strip. Threaten to boycott papers that carry it. Babs S. was booed for her skit on Bush, but cheered when she sang. Madonna offened me when she was cruxified on her latest tour. Did we riot and burn. I intend to insult a muslim during the Christmas Season, and boycott any store with signs saying happy holidays etc. I will be offended whenever I see someone in a turban, and let them know it. Lets all send a christmas gift to every mosque, a piggy bank. Imagine the chaos when they call the police because of suspicious pkgs, that might have a bomb in them. Turn their outrage against them amd make them a laughing stock. It can be done. Let the world know we are mad as hell and wont take it anymore. The biggest shopping season is almost here. Stores are already complainig they can’t get staff. If I say Merry Christmas to a staff member when entering the store, and they reply happy holidays or seasons greetings, I will fill a cart with a large amount of goods, get to the till, and again say Merry Christmas, and if I get a different reply, I will tell the clerk, I am Christmas Shopping not holiday shopping and leave my cart and walk out.
We have to send a strong message to all those that support the terrorists, both here and elsewhere.
It never ceases to amaze me how righties work each other up over nothing. However, I do find it amusing and entertaining.
Getting your nose out of joint over what a frickin’ cartoonist said is like actually taking the time to debate with Tom Cruise about post natal depression.
Stupid is as stupid gets.
Regardless of the weak, limp-wristed liberals, the worm will turn. Hopefully the good people in the U.K. haven’t awakened too late.
From The Times UK Oct. 2006 reporting that the Church of England has launched an “astonishing attack” on the Government’s drive to turn Britain into a multi-faith society.
The report states that the attempt to make minority “faith” communities more integrated has backfired, leaving society “more separated than ever before”. It also reportedly claims that “divisions between communities have been deepened by the Government’s ‘schizophrenic’ approach to tackling multiculturalism, so that while trying to encourage interfaith relations, it has actually given “privileged attention” to the Islamic faith and Muslim communities.”
“preferential treatment has been afforded to the Muslim community despite the fact that it makes up only three per cent of the population. Britain . . .”
Right on, Kingstonlad.
I was in a cab in Toronto during the Lebanese conflict and we passed a crowd of ROPers protesting in front of a consulate. The driver started beeping his horn and waving his hands around in support. I asked him what he was doing and demanded that he stop. I then gave him facts about his religion and so-called prophet and asked him to comment. He had no rebuttal other than popping his eyes out of his head and telling me that I’m insane. Which is a typical muzzy response. When I paid him and got out of the cab, he continued yelling and carrying on (like the enraged pictures we see in the paper everyday), until finally he had to move on, because he was blocking traffic.
So yeah, I agree, don’t be afraid to speak to these people and let them know what you think. Force them to confront their ‘religion of peace,’ in a way they haven’t had to before. Although, in doing so, you might have to put up with a spat of non-peaceful, childish outrage.
Typical utterance from the burqa clad sniveling lefty crowd. Constitutional rights, like free speech, are negotiable to them because they are really fascists at heart, don’t kid yourselves.
Mohammed should be mocked until he is reduced to the little con artist camel thief that he was.
I started reading Elie Weisel’s “Night” again. It’s been re-issued. Early in the book one of Weisel’s neighbors from his village escaped the death camp, returns to warn others, and is met with disbelief and derision. No one acts on his information perhaps because rational humans want tangible confirmation.
The vanity and sheer stupidity of these lefty peabrains in the day and age of 24/7 news with images capturing all of the raw violence and verbal threats from this new fascism is astounding. What more tangible confirmation from 9/11 on do these idiots need? It’s got to be pure vanity that motivates their attitudes.
Begins with ‘M’.
Hmm, let’s see….Episcopalians?
As Trudeau has mocked almopst everything, this is a bit sweet isn’t it?
“… Call your newspaper and protest Trudeau’s comic strip. Threaten to boycott papers that carry it. … I intend to insult a muslim during the Christmas Season, and boycott any store with signs saying happy holidays etc. I will be offended whenever I see someone in a turban, and let them know it. Lets all send a christmas gift to every mosque, a piggy bank. Imagine the chaos when they call the police because of suspicious pkgs, that might have a bomb in them. … If I say Merry Christmas to a staff member when entering the store, and they reply happy holidays or seasons greetings, I will fill a cart with a large amount of goods, get to the till, and again say Merry Christmas, and if I get a different reply, I will tell the clerk, I am Christmas Shopping not holiday shopping and leave my cart and walk out.
We have to send a strong message to all those that support the terrorists, both here and elsewhere.
Posted by: maryT at October 11, 2006 11:23 AM
LOL!
Well maryT, it looks like you’re going to be kind of busy over the next few months. Now that trick with the loaded shopping cart, will you be doing that at WalMart? How do you think their management and staff will respond? BTW, there was one line in your piece that I thought showed quite a bit of intelligence:
“Turn their outrage against them amd make them a laughing stock. It can be done.”
Mohammed should be mocked until he is reduced to the little con artist camel thief that he was.
You forgot paedophile and mass-murderer.
Actually we don’t need to offend the Muslim extremists… just kill them.
“I do find it amusing and entertaining”
So, the brown stuff finds it entertaining, which i suppose explains his obsession with SDA.
Or he’s a lonely person who craves abuse.
“Getting your nose out of joint over what a fricken’ cartoonist said…”
Obviously you’ve missed the point again. At least you’re consistently stupid.
I,ve never, ever laughed at a single G. Trudeau cartoon or comic-strip. In fact, he has yet to even bring a faint smile to my face which is why I no longer even bother with his “art”.
He’s boring, mediocre, childish and in bad need of a kick in the nuts ( to improve his art!)
As for his “cutting edge” appeal, well the guy has the depth of a duck-pond.
Come to think of it, he’s almost as “deep” as the 1960s.
Almost.
I do not do much shopping at WalMarts as the aisles are too narrow for a wheelchair and cart. I did this in Zellers last year, as I told the clerk she had the right to offend me with all her piercings but I had the right not to be offended. 300.00 of schools supplies and clothes were left.
Funny thing was she was not there the next week. I prefer to do this in clothing stores, or other places where they work on commissions and base wages. My other pet peeve is clerks who cant make change except look at the monitor. I hold up a line until they count it out, the proper way, the way we used to. Someone please inform me of NK products being sold in Canada, so I can refuse to buy them. I don’t shop in malls that ban the sally ann, or the playing of Christmas music. I have found that travelling to the businesses in the small towns, where they are still friendly and into the spirit, and appreciate your business one can get very good bargains. There are other ways to protest other than in mobs in the streets. Just heard on the cbc that Iggy has offended the jewish people in canada, by calling the bombing of lebanon an act of war.
What is happening in Caledonia, as there is no coverage of it anywhere on tv.
How does management react: When they have to put back stuff, and have lost customers, they usually change their policy, and tell their clerks to respond with Merry Christmas and change some signs. Remember Target a few years ago. The basic excuse is Policy is set by Head Office, (usually in TO), and it is not our fault. All cdns have to do is find their backbone to turn this political correctness and rop tolerance againts them. The Church of England has made a good start as did the Pope.
“Getting your nose out of joint over what a frickin’ cartoonist said is like actually taking the time to debate with Tom Cruise about post natal depression.”
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Ahh yes. That’s been Gary Trudeau’s line for the last 35 years. No matter who he’s offended, or how many cut-out petitions he’s pasted in his strip, he’d always respond to critics with, “Relax! It’s a cartoon for heaven’s sake! How can you take anyone seriously when they’re complaining about a cartoon!”
…are you wearing your irony pants indeed.
Manorrd..it is typically leftist isn’t it? they can say any hurtful and spiteful thing but if any one calls them on it they are belittled and derided..
“it’s just a cartoon..”
It is always the one way mirror with these people.’Hey man, like, i was only making a point to make you think..don’t freak out, it’s only a cartoon’
(when you complain about it) an instrument of social change and a political statement when he is drawing it.
Mr. Trudeau, i make my statements with my pocket book,and i choose to not support any of your ideals by buying your drivel.
To turn it around on you, those Danish cartoons were”just cartoons” no?
Irwin,
Its better to be consistently ‘stupid’ than to be consistently ‘right’.
I know it is not PC but if you live your life trying not to offend do you not lose your individuality?
If you go out of your way to offend someone, fair enough they can feel offended.
Do the left truly believe that the world will be a better place if we all follow Sharia law?
Chip away, chip away, Western civilization is being eroded!
The UK needs to wake up before they are swallowed up.They have been fighting the Church versus State for hundreds of years and should know better!
I do not do much shopping at WalMarts as the aisles are too narrow for a wheelchair and cart. I did this in Zellers last year, as I told the clerk she had the right to offend me with all her piercings but I had the right not to be offended. 300.00 of schools supplies and clothes were left.
mary, I didn’t realize that the ailse widths in WalMart were a problem for those in wheelchairs. Maybe if you’re going all this shopping the kids should help you out?
As for Merry Xmas versus Happy Holidays, I usually go with Happy Holidays and UNICEF cards, they are more inclusive not only of other religions, but of the non-religious, of which I am one. I trust you do realize that freedom of religion necessarily includes the freedom not to accept or adhere to ANY religion?
DB,
Enough said.
Perhaps, Budd, you could go lecture the Saudis on religious freedom. You *really* should! Think of it as a form of personal pedagogical edification; you’ll learn a whole new meaning to the words “getting stoned”.
If I meet you during the “holidays” I shall make it my Christian duty to scream “Merry Christmas” in your leftist *grande geulle*.
“I usually go with Happy Holidays and UNICEF cards, they are more inclusive not only of other religions, but of the non-religious…I trust you do realize that freedom of religion necessarily includes the freedom not to accept or adhere to any religion?”
-Budd
This bit is just so full of mindless drivel it’s priceless. So what in the world makes you think Christmas has to be inclusive of other religions? And by celebrating Christmas, do you not think you are accepting and adhering to well, duh, Christmas?
Another example of ‘rational reason’ brought to you by a mindless twat on the left.
I am not in a w/chair, my grandson is, but the aisles in walmart where I live are so narrow it is almost one way traffic. Too carts can’t pass. Just try taking someone in a w/chair or scooter thru them, or thru the checkouts. If freedom of the non religious means you have to cowtow to the rops, then also be tolerant of mine and others. Christmas is a Christian holiday, if you are not a member of that group, why do you celebrate it by sending cards. My project this year is to send a piggy bank to every rop member I know. You are aware that they forced a bank in England to withdraw all the piggy banks used to solicit small donations for various causes. Germany has refused to preform a certain opera. Fight back.
If freedom of the non religious means you have to cowtow to the rops, then also be tolerant of mine and others. Christmas is a Christian holiday, if you are not a member of that group, why do you celebrate it by sending cards. My project this year is to send a piggy bank to every rop member I know. You are aware that they forced a bank in England to withdraw all the piggy banks used to solicit small donations for various causes. Germany has refused to preform a certain opera. Fight back.
The idea that Christmas is a Christian holiday, rather than a commercial holiday along with Boxing Day, is a bit quaint, really.
What is a “rop”, BTW?
As for fighting back, no thanks, I decline. I like living in a secular society, it’s less rigid and I don’t have to memorize a lot of verses.
Budd if you like living is a secular society, then you had better be prepared to fight back.
The RoP (religion of peace) has every intention of taking over the world.
In Budd’s world, the couple of billion Christians who celebrate Christmas are the delusional minority, whereas he and his five secular friends who don’t believe in Christmas but still send out UN “holiday” cards at exactly the same time of year, pretending this 2000 year old religious holiday is all about shopping, are the enlightened majority.
Sad. PS: also what Largs said. Budd wants to live in a secular society, but its mostly the religious folks like me and many of those on this blog who are fighting to keep the decidedly ‘rigid’ radical Muslims from changing it. In other words, Budd is another liberal parasite, living off the fumes of Western civ.
Sad squared.
If you are not prepared to fight for the rights you have, you simply don’t deserve them.
funny thing, this whole debate about christmas…i am not religious, but i do believe that jesus was a great man…our society has been greatly shaped by his teachings…and i celebrate his birth every year with my christian friends..i find it very generous of them to share this special time with me…as well, i am not british, but i have total respect for our parliament, and all the wonderful british institutions that are the bedrock of our society…if u do not respect either tradition, shut up and stay home…..GO ARMY
Yea, Mary T. I like your ideas! Likewise, I proclaim “Merry Christmas!” with gay abandon (before “gays” wrecked this word, this expression meant, essentially, “with gusto”) in every store I go into and to every acquaintance I meet.
I haven’t gone as far as putting my merchandise back if someone answers “Happy Holidays!”, but I’m going to think about it. It’s high time that we began to “take back the West.” Femnisists get to “take back the night,” so I’m going to continue to speak truth into lies whenever I can, to defend and promote Judeo-Christian Western values.
Years ago, a dear friend, more than twice my age, once asked me what I planned to do about all of my complaints about the simultaneous ratcheting up of stupidity and dumbing down in the multiculural mess our society has become. I told him, “John, I plan to make as big a nuisance of myself as I can.”
This nonsense about “not offending anyone” is a huge pile of crap. If my views, hard won and well-thought out, offend others, well, so be it. I’m willing to defend my views and will listen while someone who disagrees with me explains theirs. But please don’t ask me not to express my opinions because they might offend someone. Also, I don’t notice the Lefties worrying about whom they might offend.
Of course, with the Lefties, it’s never a two-way street. It’s always a dead end.
I trust you do realize that freedom of religion necessarily includes the freedom not to accept or adhere to ANY religion?
Stupid. Gratuitous. Smarmy. The perfect mix of all three.
Budd’s firing on all cylinders.
I trust you do realize that freedom of religion necessarily includes the freedom not to accept or adhere to ANY religion?
Stupid. Gratuitous. Smarmy. The perfect mix of all three.
Budd’s firing on all cylinders.
Posted by: penny at October 11, 2006 06:17 PM
What’s stupid about it? It’s a point that many don’t seem to appreciate. If you’re saying it’s “gratuitous” because you hold it to be self-evident, well, I am glad we agree that the freedom NOT to believe is an essential component, but I think you’re quite wrong to suggest that this point is universally understood. There are many who think that atheists and agnostics are not really good citizens, are not really Canadians, or more to the point, not really Americans.
Why is it a smarmy thing to say when talking with maryT about her plan to stage a one person demonstration against those who give her a non-religous greeting in a store or shop?
Thanks, BATB and penny, my sentiments entirely. And Kathy’s right on: Budd–I guess as in spud (lumpen and minus any brain)–is definitely a parasite. If I were him and had any self-esteem or integrity, I’d keep my shallow and selfish comments to myself.
“… Budd wants to live in a secular society, but its mostly the religious folks like me and many of those on this blog who are fighting to keep the decidedly ‘rigid’ radical Muslims from changing it. In other words, Budd is another liberal parasite, living off the fumes of Western civ.”
Posted by: Kathy Shaidle at October 11, 2006
As you well know, Kathy, your statement is the exact opposite of the truth. People like yourself are in fact trying to make liberal Western democracies more like the theocratic authoritarian Islamic states you claim to oppose. It’s just that you want them to be Christian, of course!
Your metaphorical phrase “living off the fumes of Western civ.” has me wondering. Is this some kind of reference to GHGs and global warming? I can’t think what else it might refer to, but on the other hand, people on the remote right are mandated by higher command authority to deny the existence of GHGs and global warming, so I really would like to know what you’re driving at.
“I trust you do realize that freedom of religion necessarily includes the freedom not to accept or adhere to ANY religion?”
You would be correct in your assertion Budd.
Unfortunately, the self-righteous neanderthals that inhabit this blog can’t take their blinders off long enough to consider any other person’s point of view. It is their way or the highway.
You are not a parasite Budd, but since you do not march in step with the religious right, you will be condemned by them for your views, regardless if they are correct or not.
Get used to it if you want to frequent SDA.
There are some good writers here, who understand that you can be moral, intelligent and Conservative without religion. I thought tolerance was a Christian value, but after reading some of the latest posts, I have some very serious doubts.
As for Merry Xmas versus Happy Holidays, I usually go with Happy Holidays…
Ah, Happy Holy Days! Perfectly non-religious. lol
“,,,Merry Xmas or Happy Holidays…”
So why don’t you and the rest of the pond life rename Haunakah and Ramadan?
Happy Xakah – makes the Hebrew holiday a whole lot more inclusive of other religions, or the non-religious doesn’t it, Budd?
Merry Xadan – I bet that’d go over real well with the muzzies.
It’s incredible Budd’s brain can perform simple functions like breathing.
Although I don’t think anybody could pick a better salesman for the Conservative Party.
Budd, if you knew your Western history, you’d know that all of the freedoms that you enjoy in “liberal Western democracies” are founded on, and protected by, Judeo-Christian values: individualism vs. collectivism, the rights of the individual over and against the state, innocence before the law unless PROVEN guilty, laws protecting individuals from coercion by the state and from exploitation by others, etc.
In no way is Kathy, or are any of us who understand the role that Judeo-Christianity has played in the making of liberal Western democracies–where, BTW, so many people from tyrannical, non-Judeo-Christian dictatorships want to live–saying or desiring a theocratic authoritarian state.
We are simply saying that as our country is founded on solid Judeo-Christian principles, we should not be dictated to by those who do not share these values and who wish, ironically, to live off the largesse of the system our J-C values have created.
No one here has ever said that either atheists or agnostics “are not really good citizens, are not really Canadians.” For you to allege this is mean-spirited and typical of the no-think tactic of setting up straw wo/men to knock them down.
If you like living in Canada, Budd, then be thankful for the founding mothers and fathers of this Nation who, adhering to Judeo-Christian principles and values, created a thriving liberal, Western democracy. And quit demeaning those of us who ARE thankful and who are attempting to honour and maintain these values.
Without them, there will be no continuing “liberal Western democracies.”
Funny how leftoids like Lew like to use “neanderthal” when attempting to insult those on the right.
The neanderthal actually had a larger brain than modern homo sapiens. So I suppose the intended insult isn’t all that insulting.
However, the oddities on the left like Lew and Budd constantly prove they don’t possess a brain at all – and often admit it – like david brown did several posts ago.
Lew wrote, “There are some good writers here, who understand that you can be moral, intelligent and Conservative without religion.”
Lew, is being “moral, intelligent and Conservative” denied to Christians? That idea–maybe you didn’t think things through–is intolerant and elitist.
BTW, Christians are not lap dogs: they are allowed to be offended and to put up a defence–even an offence. Budd has been far more offensive to Christians here than they’ve been to him. I also think they’ve been more intelligent.
It’s just fine for Budd (and Lew) to disagree. But please do so with a modicum of reason.