The Path To 9/11

Yeah, it looks like the parts that were to have been censored have all been kept in. I guess the Netroots beat the Nutroots!

I'll reserve my opinion until seeing the entire second part, but I found one thing interesting.

I had said before the airing that the only way for a docu-drama on the "path to 9/11" to be critical of Clinton without being equally critical of Bush would be for the movie to show everything that went wrong right up until Decemeber 31st, 2000 and then skip ahead to September 11th, 2001. Tonight's episode showed everything that went wrong up until December 31st 1999, and then skipped ahead to September 11th, 2001. Ha!

Anyway, it was quite good. I look forward to part 2.

Part I was very good - very enlightening - hopefully some of those who believe that these terrorists are just poor misguided souls (Jack) will maybe reconsider.

I look forward to part II.

did the dems arrange for that dumbfounded expression on george dubya's face in the primary school classroom when first informed of the 2nd aircraft strike?

LKO, that is how they ended it and will likely start it tomorrow night but I'm betting that they will go back in time again after the start until they reach September 11th - I have seen that kind of setup before. If I am wrong then I will admit it and you will have a point. At least we won't have to wait long!

About anything edited out I did notice that about 1:52 minutes into the movie there was a distinct cut and start, it was pretty obvious. I could not keep my eyes on the movie the entire time (phone, answer door), maybe there were more? Also, didn't the movie end 15 minutes early?

It is amusing to me that if there had not been such a big fuss about this movie I likely would have missed it. Thanks to all the hoopla I made a point of sitting through it, is this what the democrats really wanted? ;-)

I believe it was good too but I'm just an armchair critic, waiting for the professionals' take on this over the next few days.

In case you weren't aware, the scene where Berger does not order Bin Laden to be killed is a complete fabrication. Many other scenes in film also never happened.

A few other sites are saying that there were cuts made from the original, but it still hits alot of Clinton administration targets, and from what I read beforehand, still pretty much as originally written. (That is, no full scenes like waiting for the okay to get OBL in Afghanistan and him getting away have been entirely cut as had been feared.)

It'll probably hit Bush pretty bad too, but showing Clinton's 8 years of mistreating it as a criminal problem is something new for the mainstream networks.

this says it all:

"Tom Kean, a Republican, who chaired the 9/11 Commission, was a consultant on the miniseries"

any questions?no.then we will be off to hunt down bin laden and milk that for electoral support.

Mattt Enss - whatever the scene showed, Clinton and Berger blew it with Bin Laden.

opinionjournal.com/columnists/rminiter/?id=95001289

CBCpravda --as much as you cant stand,fire all of the fukkers now, not now , but right now!!

Layton slams Harper as Bush's 'cheerleader'
Last Updated Sun, 10 Sep 2006 18:03:14 EDT
CBC News
Jack Layton accused Prime Minister Stephen Harper of being U.S. President George W. Bush's "cheerleader," as the federal NDP leader accepted an overwhelming leadership mandate from his party's faithful.

I've watched the DVD made by PBS and is a compilation of Shorts from NBC special about
terrorism and the pre-9/11 era, I can only tell you that the BS was at full speed and all the highly-paid Yahoo's at the FBI,CIA and foreign Ambassy's washed themselves clean of any blame
and even some that left those jobs were used on later interviews about how bad their Department did on Security issues.

This begs the question for what they did about it when they had the power from within and the taxpayer fund salary to actually do something rather than collect a paycheck and claim that evidence wasn't pursuasive enough to perceive a possible future terror act .

We in Canada only need to look at the screams of Racism and Profiling by Moderates like Tarek Fatah when 26 Illegals were deported and 19 were Pakistani /sunni/muslim/males with bogus documents , or his recent outrage at the Brtampton-17 arrest on a planned bombing with 3 tonnes of amomium Nitrate within Toronto.

So just imagine the Muslim riots and outrage if those 19 9/11 muslims were rounded up on September 10th 2001 for alleged Plane hijacking and mass murder from suicide Jihad to crash the planes , Muslims themselves are to blame for a fear by the Police or FBI to arrest any terrorist that is also a Muslim, but after 9/11 the same Muslims blamed the USA Immigration and security for allowing them in the Country.

It's a no-win situation where the Islamofacsists protect terrorist and use our Courts to wage Jihad and murder thousands for Allah's cause.

It's interesting that you quote Minaker Penny. He spoke with Blitzer recently about this movie, and that scene in particular.

Here's some of the exchange:

BLITZER: ...Let's talk a little bit more about this planned 9/11 miniseries on ABC. Joining us is Richard Miniter, he is the author of the book "Losing bin Laden." Been very critical of Bill Clinton's failures, you call them ...

RICHARD MINITER: And his success.

BLITZER: And the subtitle of the book, "How Bill Clinton's Failures Unleashed Global Terror."

MINITER: Wolf, publishers write titles, not authors.

BLITZER: ...Let me ask you about Sandy Berger specifically, was he defamed by this scene as depicted...

...

MINITER: Well, that's a legal question. But certainly if I was the producer I wouldn't have gone with this scene because there's no factual basis for it. It seems to be drawn from an Internet myth. From a profound misunderstanding of what actually happened.

If people wanted to be critical of the Clinton years there's things they could have said, but the idea that someone had bin Laden in his sights in 1998 or any other time and Sandy Berger refused to pull the trigger, there's zero factual basis for that.

BLITZER: You've heard other 9/11 Commission members saying it wasn't Sandy Berger who pulled the trigger, it was George Tenet the CIA director. Based on what you know, is that accurate?

MINITER: Even that's not accurate. We just never had eyes on bin Laden in the pre-9/11 situation...

BLITZER: In his letter that Sandy Berger writes to ABC, he says, "In no instance did President Clinton or I ever fail to support a request from the CIA or U.S. military to authorize an operation against bin Laden or al Qaeda." Based on your research that accurate?

MINITER: No, that's not accurate because the CIA wanted to send in 1998 a special collection team to set up listening posts in non- Taliban territory to try to figure out the movements of bin Laden and that took a very long time for that request to go through and it took the personal intervention of Bill Clinton to make that happen. So they didn't support every single CIA request, but they did support many.

BLITZER: But Bill Clinton was, as far as your investigation was concerned, he personally wanted to capture Osama bin Laden and whenever recommendations came to his level he said do it.

MINITER: He did personally again and again say from 1993 onward that he wanted to get bin Laden. Tony Lake, his national security adviser, and Sandy Berger, both said that as well.

However, the bureaucracy behind him, the rules that he'd established, made it very difficult to do that. There was no information sharing on intelligence. There were other technological problems. It took them a very long time to move the Predator over Afghan territory. If that was done much earlier, we might have had other opportunities.

*Typo: Miniter, not Minaker

There was much hype about this being a 5hr series. But, in Saturdays tv guide for the week, it had part 1 from 7-9.30 (actually ended 9.40) and part 2 from 7-8.30 p.m. Where is the other hour, and when were those guides printed. Someone check their TV Guide book and then see when that was printed. The Passionate Eye had a series very similar to this one, a few yrs ago, and it had a scene showing OBL in the crosshairs of an american soldiers gun, and just waiting for orders to kill. Clinton never gave it. Common sense tells us all that Clinton did drop the ball, and only attacked when a sex scandal was brewing. Go back and check the papers from that time. Leno and Letterman had a field day with jokes about it. And the fact it is proven that Berger stole important files from the archives, means he can't be trusted with telling the truth. There will be thousands of american voters who watched this, who maybe never would have without the dems temper tantrum, who will believe every thing in it. Should make for interesting polls and results in Nov. Wonder if taliban jack watched it, and realizes those people are not to be negotiated with.
LFG has an item saying the prisoners at Abu prison want the americans back in charge. The Iraquis have cut food rations, no air conditioning, and lots of screaming. Another leftist lie debunked.

As a Canadian Taxpayer, I nominate "Cal2" to immediately assume the Chair position of the CBC until it has been suitably cleaned up of its' unending spew of toxic trash information filled with facts that have been bias filtered, bent or left intentionally incomplete. The recent behaviors of this tax-payer fed propaganda monster demonstrate a purpose within to undermine the tenants of Canada's democracy and culture to forward a leftist agenda. I believe there's probably few others with a better vision for the future of our Crown Opinion Manu"fact"urer. Any seconders?

It wasn't bad at all.

Hey, Ted, how about a link to the COMPLETE interview. I think there is a whole lot of context missing there. Miniter's last sentence means nothing if there is more context further. It suspiciously flies in the face of Miniter's words in his WSJ article - he has expanded his research into a book - if you are trying to make the case that Clinton gave a damn about neutralizing Bin Laden. From Miniter's article in the WSJ:

opinionjournal.com/columnists/rminiter/?id=95001289

Nor did the administration believe that extraditing bin Laden to America would be wise. "In the United States, we have this thing called the Constitution, so to bring him here is to bring him into the justice system," Sandy Berger, who in 1996 was deputy national security adviser, told the Post. "I don't think that was our first choice. Our first choice was to send him someplace where justice is more"--Mr. Berger paused, according to the Post--"streamlined."

Senior Clinton staffers told the Post about a "fantasy" in which the Saudis would kill bin Laden. But let's not pass too quickly over Mr. Berger's careless words. If the Clinton administration sought "streamlined" justice and saw bin Laden as a great enough threat to America's interests that they hoped another country would kill him, the president could have secretly overturned the executive order banning assassinations of terrorists and sent in a U.S. Army sniper team. Clearly what Clinton officials really wanted was for another country to take the political heat.

Mr. Berger's sentiments ignore the substantial benefits that would have accrued from putting bin Laden on trial in America. The time and expense would have produced a voluminous record that would have persuaded any fair-minded observer, in America or abroad, that bin Laden and his band were what U.S. intelligence thought they were--terrorists who had already succeeded in killing Americans.

Clinton passed the buck.

We are talking about the same Berger that had classified documents stuffed up his socks the week before his boss's testimony at the 9/11 Commission. Like any sane person finds him credible.

There was no information sharing because of Clinton and his DOJ's Wall in place:

city-journal.org/html/12_4_why_the_fbi.html

On September 11, when his office received the passenger manifests of the four hijacked flights, the agent shouted: “This is the same Almihdar we’ve been talking about for three months.” In a parody of bureaucratic buck-passing, his supervisor responded: “We did everything by the book.

One cannot understand America’s failure to prevent 9/11 without understanding the history of the Wall. But rather than exposing the truth, America’s opinion elites have failed even to grasp it. In place of relentless investigation and tough-minded analysis, they have adopted a series of mutually contradictory attitudes about intelligence law determined by one goal only: discrediting the current Republican administration.

And let's remember this, Clinton was 8 YEARS in office, during which the first WTC bombing happened, Bush was 8 MONTHS in office before 9/11.

Well Martin, I second the motion. Anyway perhaps an amateur producer can put together a show depicting how the NDP has become an affilliate of terrorism starring jack and his gang.

Well Martin, I second the motion. Anyway perhaps an amateur producer can put together a show depicting how the NDP has become an affilliate of terrorism starring jack and his gang.

Well Martin, I second the motion. Anyway perhaps an amateur producer can put together a show depicting how the NDP has become an affilliate of terrorism starring jack and his gang.

Well Martin, I second the motion. Anyway perhaps an amateur producer can put together a show depicting how the NDP has become an affilliate of terrorism starring jack and his gang.

Well Martin, I second the motion. Anyway perhaps an amateur producer can put together a show depicting how the NDP has become an affilliate of terrorism starring jack and his gang.

Bill Clinton, already well known as a diddler, looks like a bit of a ditherer as well in this movie.

Is that Shirley Douglas (Kiefer's mom and Tommy Douglas's daughter) as Madeleine Albright? Hilarious!

I watched the first part tonight.
Whatever 'literary license' they took seems to me to have hit home the theme and the spirit of what happened if nothing else.
Clinton was distracted by the impeachment, Lewinsky , selling nights in the Lincoln bedroom, selling secrets to China. Covering up the Brown murder as well as Vince Fosters.
Just shows what you get when thugs get elected to the highest office.
There were many chances to get OBL. They didn't have the moxie to follow through.
You could tell what was going to happen after the first attack on the World Trade Center in 1993. Somalia was a damn disgrace, allowing our boys to be drug through the streets , their dead bodies desecrated the way they were, then slung our sorry asses out of there when we should have hit back hard and not let up.
Certainly , if we had done JUST THAT we might not have avoided all the other attacks around the world against US interests, but we may just have been able to avoid the likes of 9/11. They would NOT HAVE DARED if they were taught from the beginning there would be a price to pay and it would be dear! - Intelligence sharing would have gone a long way toward ensuring that kind of success. Thanks to Gorelicks wall, that was made impossible.
I am totally surprised that the FBI and CIA did as well as they did with their hands tied behind their backs by beaucratic inertia and bungling.

I, for one, am sick to death hearing the dems in the states and the libs here whine and cry about what was and was not in Iraq before the theatre of war in Iraq was opened.
Afghanistan, Iraq, Iran, North Korea... I just don't care where it is, they need to be crushed!
Just as the CIA agent states in the movie: "this is not law enforcement, it is WAR. You kill your enemy and destroy his property."
And most importantly, the words uttered by the Northern Alliance Moussad: " Are all the men cowards in Washington?"
These sewer snipes who care for nothing but death and violence need to be erradicated. And every effort from the White House to 24 Sussex, 10 Downing and all others whose expertise is needed and employed should band together with NO further argument and get this job done.
At least President Bush understands clearly and knows how to fight it.
God help all of us if we get a democrat in the White House again. We'll really be for it then.
And if I have to personally take up arms to defend my own home, I am going to be pissed at MUCH more than the terrorists!!
In this country , I would start with Jack Layton!!

And let's not forget that tomorrow night will deal with the USS Cole...and what was done about that?? ABSOLUTELY NOTHING!
I remember the memorial that Clinton attended. The animosity against him was palpable from the families attending the memorial.
The Clinton Administration did zero about that attack. Not to mention their own complicity by allowing fueling in the port of Yemen to begin with. Policy was to re-fuel out in the gulf , not in port because it WAS so dangerous.
And the hits on Clinton just keep on coming.
ABC has done their country a service. And by association, Canada and her troops too.
This will remind everyone WHY we fight!

From the 9/11 Commisssion's witness, known as "Mike", who worked for the CIA. And has no problem finding fault with both administrations, but certaily does not let Clinton's off the hook.

"Former Head of CIA's Bin Laden Unit: Clinton Admin Played Role in Nixing Osama Op"

..."from Michael Scheuer, a 22-year veteran of the CIA that used to head up “Alec Station,” the Counterterrorist Center’s Osama bin Laden unit. (Update: Scheuer is the individual regularly referred to in the 9/11 Commission report as "Mike".)"

"Scheuer is an outspoken critic of the current Administration’s prosecution of the war on terror, as well as an opponent of the war in Iraq. As such, he is not considered to be a friend of the president’s."

“Is the scene in question as depicted by Rush [Limbaugh] an accurate account of the plan to capture or kill bin Laden in Afghanistan. If so, who do you believe gave the order to halt it?” Scheuer responded:

"Regarding the scene, it was never clear to my officers or myself who canceled the operation. It is true that Clarke was bad-mouthing it. What I don't think people know, however, is that the Agency had thoroughly reviewed the plan and had approved its execution at the highest level -- that is, at the level of DCI Tenet and his immediate subordinates. (NB: At Tenet's direction, JSOC commanders at Fort Bragg also reviewed the plan. They approved it, said they could not do better, and built two sand-table mock-ups of the bin Laden's compound for us to use in preparing the operation.) My officers and I were told that the plan had been sent to Clarke and the NSC for approval. The next thing we knew, the Chief of CT at CIA told us that the plan had been canceled because civilians might get killed, there was not a hundred percent chance that we would get bin Laden, and that if bin Laden was killed in the capture effort the CIA might get accused of assassination. The implication to us at the time was that the NSC [National Security Council]canceled the operation, but Tenet later claimed he did it himself. I don't know what the full truth is on this issue. Interestingly, after our east Africa embassies were bombed on 7 August 98, Clarke ordered us to immediately revive the capture plan, but of course by then the chance had been well and truly lost."

newsbusters.org/node/7438

Counter balance?

So far no one mentioned the Pasionate Eye special that makes Chaney / Haliburton and Bush look like the real bad guys. Earlier tonight, Sunday the 10th.

Starts with Isenhower*s warning of the Arms - Industrial complex and the power lobby they have in the pentagon.

Goes on to describe Haliburton contracts for everything including laundry for the troops and even peeling potatoes.

The left sure puts out a strong story when they want to. They parlay some truths into just cause for lynchings. = TG

That was much better than the Reagan movie.
And democRats will still have some 'splainin to do in the morn'...

I don't know about the accuracy, what this movie has done is bring back a sense of reality of the war to me. It has been fading to some degree for me and the re enactment if you will refreshes the hate that is directed toward us.

It also enhances the degree to which people like Jack Layton have muddied the waters and covered up what is really going on. Almost hiding the hideous nature of our enemy.

I too would not have watched and am grateful I did. It is refreshing the memories and giving me a front row seat to relatively accurate depiction of what is going on.

Frankly the most difficult parts for me is to watch the bureuacratic waffling going on. That part is common to any western government. These people mean to destroy us and our way of life yet we still have cowards wishing to turn a blind eye. Make excuses for the bad guys or as Jack would say negotiate a peace. They don't want peace just death ours.

cbcpravda on sunday night without any editorial control , see headline below.

Layton slams Harper as Bush's 'cheerleader'
Last Updated Sun, 10 Sep 2006 18:03:14 EDT
CBC News
Jack Layton accused Prime Minister Stephen Harper of being U.S. President George W. Bush's "cheerleader," as the federal NDP leader accepted an overwhelming leadership mandate from his party's faithful.

sell pravda to FOX this month for a buck.

Anyone catch the piece leading off the Sunday CBC morning news? It was a documentary by the young anchor about how the US government may have destroyed the World Trade Center themselves. At the end, when the co-anchor asks if he believes it, this . . . bleeping bleep . . . actually- rather than a clear cut no- suggests that its good that we're asking questions, and if you read between teh lines, you get the sense that he does believe the Us did it. At least that's the angle he appears to be wanting to push. On our national news, the morning before the five year anniversary of 9/11! I used to laugh cynically at their bs, but I watched that and I felt an anger and a deep shame and frustration well up inside of me. This is the most disgusted I've ever been with the CBC, at least I think. Oh, and of course the next segment was something to the effect of 'what do muslims think of 9/11?' Let's see . . . we're willing- almost eager- to believe that the US government killed tens of thousands of their own people in a brazen, tightly public and orchestrated attack, but we won't report that perhaps, just perhaps now, their are pictures and reports out of Lebanon being doctored by Hezbollah. This whole 'US orchestrated 9/11' is the modern day 'Holocaust never happened' and it is growing like a mould right in front of our eyes. Despicable.

Dean, don't just BE angry, DO something! (BTW, I share your anger and disgust at the CBC.)

Here's the CBC Ombudsman's e-mail address:

Ombudsman@cbc.ca

He needs to hear from you--and anyone else who's got proof of biased reporting and misrepresentatoins of reality to suit the CBC's elitist/leftist/terrorist-denying ("so-called WOT"?) world view. CBC lives in a bubble of its own making, at the Canadian taxpayers' expense.

It's got to stop. cal2 for head CBC honcho!

I noticed that there was some glaring unreality in the dialogue between some jihadists... the scene in the bar (Phillippines?) between Khalid Sheikh Mohammed and what was his name, the bombmaker, in which a new type of small bomb was being discussed.

They talked about "American foreign policy" as if it was the reason they were killing people.

ABC writers of this "documentary" were following political correctness dogma wrt Islam in writing in this imaginary dialogue. The truth of the matter, we must realize, is that the jihadists kill people simply for not being Islamic. It's part of the central goal of Islam to take over the world in the long run, Islamifying it by invitation & force... and many Muslims are simply doing what they believe in in order to advance this doctrine of their ideology. Too bad the writers wouldn't or couldn't reflect this in the dialogue of the jihadists. That's a disservice.

There's a school of thought that holds that Islam is more political than theological, but I'm not so sure I'd classify it as "political". For the real motivation of the jihadists stems from the theological doctrines of supremacism and imperialism, to be pursued via jihad, etc.

The "politics", "diplomacy", etc. are just tools of jihad, as is the practice of lying ("Al-Taqiyah") to whomever they feel they must in order to spread their ideology worldwide at all costs.

Regardless of the politcal postering by both sides, mistakes were made by both administrations. Time to stop pointing fingers and playing stupid political games. The Islamofacists declared war on the west and we need to fight this war on every level. Contrary to the appeasment left wing hug me crowds point of view, we are fighting for our survival against a fanatical enemy. The Jack Laytons and Al Gores of this world would rather crawl into a hole and pretend all is well. Blaming Clinton or Bush solves nothing and accomplishes nothing.

This photo should be shoved in Jack! Layton's smarmy face at every opportunity:

http://tinyurl.com/gspv3

meanwhile, on the canadian national security front, despite 100s of millions squandered.... er, 'spent' on airport security, we see a montreal reporter was able to sashay past said security numerous times recently at trudeau airport..

feel free to google or otherwise source the report in today's papers. mine has a pic of the reporter standing *behind* the fence with the sign 'restricted area'.

Question for the conspiracy kooks.
Bush was elected in Nov 2000, took office Jan 2001. It took several months for him to get his cabinet members and other leaders passed thru congress. For years the msm have labelled Bush as not too smart. So, when did Bush and his cohorts start to plan 9/11. and how did he finance it. Were they planning this before Nov 2000, or was it a Clinton plan put in place during his 8 yr term, and carried out by his people. IF, as they say Bush did it, he must be a lot smarter than given credit for, to plan such an attack in less than a year. And what would Gore have done. With all the leaks to the NYT don't these idiots think that someone would have leaked this to them. Also, that is Shirley Douglas in the movie. Even in movies she follows taliban Jack.

Watching dramatized accounts always leaves a strong sense of being dupped. What with ominous background music and strategicaly choreographed visual edits emotions are stirred. Gives one the sense of reality in all the wrong places.

911 didn't happen on Clinton's watch because this is really a war between the bin Ladens and Bushes. Neither clan cares about innocent lives...it's all about money, power, misplaced honour and greed.

And the first WTC bombing attempt was on Clinton's watch. Look forward to the reasoning for that one. Pehaps a little post Bush Sr issues, ...(mother of murphy).

David Brown, how does it feel to be a complete moron? No matter how much truth comes up and smacks you in the head you still sputter the same old garbage.

Maybe we need to change the term troll to tapeworm?

thanks for the votes of confidence folks.

NO one knows just how much I hate the CBC. I should avoid it but feel drawn to it like a dog investigating puke.

well cal2, just how much do you detest the state run broadcaster?

does intensity or longevity count greater?

I have despised the gutless bastards at cbc since they axed the great 'this hour has 7 days' which regularly piloried the ottawa lords. I have had an interest in politics since waaaaaay before I could vote. so I would say I have accumulated the higher tally of total 'cbc-hate-units'.

yet still I get accused of being a leftie.

sigh.

as far as what happened on whose watch, note that the clinton era attack was comparatively minor.

but it happened, so did the bush leaguers do any scenario planning? ramp up their investigation plans sensing victory in 2000? there can be no doubt after 1993 attack that the islamists were itching to go back. it was the bush leaguers asleep at the wheel that prompted bin laden's crew to do 9/11. the plans were made, 'flight training' done, motivational speeches delivered etc etc. they just needed doofuses like the bush leaguers in the white house to make their move.

the rest is history.

as far as conspiratists are concerned, I have spoken with those who have convinced themselves that FDR orchestrated the pearl harbour attack in order to 'get the USA into the war'.

(shudder)

and to those who subscribe to the conspiracy that apollo 11 was a hoax. none of them have dared to give an opinion on whether the rest of the moon shots happened or not, or if satellites exist and if not how do we have satellite broadcast and gps? and what about aircraft that fly on the edge of the atmosphere? takes just a wee bit more altitude to get into the hard vacuum of space, so whats to stop going 1/4 million miles in the same vacuum all the way to the moon powered mostly by gravity? does gravity fail in space? etc etc.

I've never gotten any word on these cotradictions of their apollo notions. suddenly they are 'busy' with something. so easy to pick apart the conspiratists position, but it is fueled by justified cynicism about government secrecy.

There was no need for me to quote the entire article. It was very long and it would be impossible to parse Miniter in such a way that he comes across as being favorable and admiring of Clinton. He's not. He think's he did a lousy job. He also trots out the 8 years 8 month line.

No, the point was that you were of the opinion that "whatever the scene showed, Clinton and Berger blew it with Bin Laden."

My point was that the person you quoted disagreed with you. Yes, he thinks Clinton and Berger blew it, but he thinks that it was inapropriate to use that scene. There are other things you could show, he says, so why make stuff up?

Which raises two questions:

1. If the case against Clinton "blowing it" is so clear, and so damming, why did ABC feel it needed to fabricate a scene?

2. Given the subject, the air date, and the claim to be "based on the 9/11 commission report", is it appropriate to make up incidents?

Its an interesting take on the events of that day. Most comments are pretty much in accord I notice.

I think though this started by our inaction over the Embassy takeover. The World should have hollered loud at this breach of ancient protocol & called the Iranian revolutionaries to account for it. Soon after Regan lost those Marines from an Hezzbalah attack.This was not retaliatory but a progressive escalation while they infiltrated our Counties is my belief. I think we all should have been warned by the Cinema burnings & such. To bad nobody seen it. We where to enamored with ourselves.

Witch prompts one to wonder how connected Iran even than. Was to Syria & Other Muslim Brotherhood groups?

People forget the hijackings & the Pivotal event . The 1968 Olympics. These with the first bombing are where taken as isolated events. Just like the left still tries to pretend.

When did Arafat have connections to the other Muslim Jihadists & there Wabatist tenets ? In particular Syria & Iran ?

My heartfelt: God Bless America on this tragic day & the victims families. To America for keeping up the fight & our freedom. To Canada for helping, & lets never see North American soil despoiled again by fanatics!

This of course is just my opinion.

David Brown, It would be interesting to get your version of the Bin Ladens - Bush - Chaney roots of conflict.

I read where the Bin Ladens were encouraged to invest their great construction company wealth in some complex oil well purging scheme. When the venture turned out to be a total bust, they got irritable and demanded their capital investments back.

The answer was, *investing is a gamble, though luck.*

Guess Bin Laden is a sore loser. = TG

I remember the "Palestinian" airline hijackings and bombings way back when I was in high school, in the late 60's.

And IMO no one alive at the time, should forget the Berlin Olympics and the lack of response or remorse (except by Israel) for the kidnapping and the slaughter of the Israeli team.

Arafat was considered a terrorist then and only through Pres. Jimmy Carter Democrats and the UNs efforts did he become a "political leader" worthy of numerous White House visits to hold "Peace Talks".

And many, many years (and Israeli PMs') later Pres. Clinton was still inviting Arafat to the WH and IIRC, even gave him a really nice black leather jacket on his last visit. There is just no apppeasing some people. /sarc

The Path to 9-11 certainly did not start with the '93 bombing of the WTC but to make a TV movie out of a more complete history it would have to be a mini series, as long or longer, than Roots.

Concrete,

Yes, a series that would count all the terrorist actions when smack - down was put off and postponed just one more time, Sect. Wineberger, Carter and repeatedly during the Clinton term.

Chretien and Clinton theme: to ensure re-election, never do anything unless you absolutly have to.

Looks like Harper correctly understands that a problem must be stopped before it becomes a total loss. How true. =TG