The "Inter-Faith" Hospital Gown

...Gadzooks! She looks like something out of Star Wars...

And of course how will one know they got a real doctor/nurse and not an imposter?

Reminded me of the spoof on British drivers licences.

I've always wished womeone would invent a hospital gown that didn't leave a person's nether regions flapping in the breeze, but this is ridiculous.
Also, good luck to medical staff trying to get a look underneath this burka.

"And of course how will one know they got a real doctor/nurse and not an imposter?"

What about a suicide bomber with biological/chemical weapons walking around any hospital?

I knew it. Muslims really are a Hazardous MAterial, requiring special biological isolation suits.

Sick Muslims in hospital gowns are very scary.

before anymore of you anti-muslim freaks spew more hatred, it wasn't that long ago, in canada women couldn't vote nor did they have the right to study at universities and become doctors etc...

and our society changed over time without being bombed or invaded by some foreign country who taught our primitive ways needed to change

"before anymore of you anti-muslim freaks spew more hatred, it wasn't that long ago, in canada women couldn't vote nor did they have the right to study at universities and become doctors etc...

and our society changed over time without being bombed or invaded by some foreign country who taught our primitive ways needed to change"

Nice try at relativism! Listen, I am not about to apologize for what my country did to make it great! The foremost being not forcing people to live in the 6th century! So get off your high horse Jacobin!

Jacobin - you're right - it wasn't long ago that women couldn't vote, couldn't go to university to become doctors.

The reason I oppose fundamentalist/radical/conservative Islam is because I don't want to lose my right to vote, to go to university, to become a doctor.

I don't want to become a human set of drapes sitting in the corner waiting for my male relative to escort me outside the house.

The British are taking their rehearsal for becoming an Islamic Republic very seriously - they should be commended for ending a thousand years of England so gently and peacefully, it's very post-modern of them to encourage their own submission rather than put up a messy fight that they don't have the stomach for.

"She looks fine, discharge her, and next patient please!"
"Bu-bye"

jacobin - our society changed because it had permissions in place, the biggest one was the tradition of permitted secularism granted to us by our Judeo-Christian roots. We were permitted to work out our civil arrangements unhindered by a centralized religious authority. Islam can't.

Criticising Islam, fossilized in its 7th century intolerances, is more than fair game. Only a very immature mind can't distingush between "hatred" versus criticism. So, you can take your little indignation snit and run along.

Oh, and, their primitve ways do need changed fast. They are the biggest threat out there to humanity at this time in history.

What the hell's she doing receiving medical treatment in the hospital in the first place? According to the Taliban, who are dedicated Islamic scholars devoted to perfecting Islamic society, women are excluded from medical care. A woman cannot be touched by a male doctor, and females are not allowed to be doctors, therefore it is impossible for a woman to receive any medical care, Allah absolutely forbids it. It sure looks to me like there's some kind of Islamic death penalty offense going on in that photo.

It also suggests that the KKK were ahead of their time. Unisexual and all that, they long ago embraced the fashion for both men and women. Come to think of it, their spiritual beliefs are not dissimilar either...

penny , you are full of shit

the canadian women fought for there rights, because during WW2, they realized after working in the factories when there men went off to war, they could do whatever men could and demanded there right to vote

and it was the christian establishments that labeled women has sub-human in the first place, and stripped them of there G-d given rights

and for you twist this around and potrait islam has being a threat to humanity is bullshit

iraq was a secular muslim nation until the U.S invaded it, and now it's run by fundamentalist

what makes you believe that all muslim women want to be westernized?

Fitting name for Jacobin: The Reign of Terror/The Red Terror/the Islamist fascist Terror: Jacobin. ...-

Jacobin/Jacobins.

The Columbia Encyclopedia, Sixth Edition. 2001-05
After the fall of the Girondists (June, 1793), for which the Jacobins were largely responsible, the Jacobin leaders instituted the Reign of Terror. ..

Wacko jacko,
Women got the vote before world war II didn't they?

You are an ignorant buffoon. Some people don't want to be westernized? Fine. I don't want to be "Easternized"!!!

Why do you dig into ancient history for wrongs? They are far in the past. You sound like an Islamic fanatic complaining about the Crusades hundreds of years ago for crying out loud!

jacobin - I'm not ratcheting this up into a delightful troll game for you. Life's too short. Game someone else.

Nice duds but does it have the obligatory rear ventilation opening?

This is slightly off the topic, but WHAT are the Canadian passort requirements for these people? Are they allowed to have their full face cover on for passport and drivers license photos?

If so what is the point of the photo.

Does anyone have any knowledge of this?
Thanks

the point is

muslim nations are no that different than what canada used to be a 100 years ago

social change sometimes isn't easy, but no country has he right to force it's own culture upon others using bombs and guns no matter how much we disapprove of there culture

what's funny, is that many of you right wingers try to taliban your beliefs onto evry other canadian, by banning gay marriage, abortions and etc

jacobin...

...sooooooo tell me where does one draw the line on protecting the innocent, like say children from pervs?

Wouldn't that line then still be "talibaning your beliefs"?

"the point is

muslim nations are no that different than what canada used to be a 100 years ago

social change sometimes isn't easy, but no country has he right to force it's own culture upon others using bombs and guns no matter how much we disapprove of there culture

what's funny, is that many of you right wingers try to taliban your beliefs onto evry other canadian, by banning gay marriage, abortions and etc
Posted by: jacobin at September 5, 2006 12:28 PM"

That's pretty stupid. I was here nearly a hundred years ago, and Canada wasn't ANYTHING like muslim nations. And you must be pretty young because you are awfully naive. People's have ALWAYS imposed their culture on someone else's if they can get away with it. That's why we have wars. Good luck changing that... "taliban your beliefs..." A new word for the language - implying imposition of beliefs and values - just like the NDP and Liberals do... wow....

tomax7

that's a stupid question

Wouldn't that line then still be "talibaning your beliefs"?

--of course not

let ma ask you this

since the invasion of afghanistan, the opium poppy trade is up 900%, and making it's way into the veins of canadians

whereas when the taliban were in power, the opium fields were almost all wipeout

social change sometimes isn't easy, but no country has he right to force it's own culture upon others using bombs and guns no matter how much we disapprove of there culture

You are absolutely correct!

So when are the Islamic terrorists going to stop trying to force their culture on to us ungodly
non-believers through the use of bombs, guns, suicide bombers etc?
Get a grip. No one invaded Iraq or any other place in recent times because we wanted to change their culture. We are merely trying to protect ours.
Sheesh!! What universe are you living in?

"Talibaning your beliefs.." Thats a good one. I think you've just provided Whacko-jacko aka "the Buffoon" with the purpose of the Afghanistan mission. Nice move, lefty.

skip

you old fart, you were probably one of those archie bunker types that was against women's rights

and you were probably one of those archie bunker types that thought blacks were sub-humans in the 60's

and you probably hate them there drunk indians, that manage to escape there reserve and stubble into the city from time to time, eh skip!

The left is entertainingly stupid.

More please jacobin.

So what happens when one of these patients has, say, a problem with her ear? Or nose? Are infidel doctors permitted to look?

...just makes you wanna scream

"dirkka dirkka jihad!!!"

So Jacobin, you'd be what, 15? I sold all my slaves and whores just after the last Great War. Pearson made me provide too many benefits, and Trudeau wanted me to give them to him. Drunken indians? nah, made too much money sellin'em hooch.
Comin' to fall cross burnin' this weekend? We're gonna roast a pig! Y'all have a nice life, son.

"So when are the Islamic terrorists going to stop trying to force their culture on to us ungodly
non-believers through the use of bombs, guns, suicide bombers etc?"

--tell me who are these Islamic terrorists?

iraq never attacked us
the taliban never attacked us
the palestinians never attacked us
hezbollah never attacked us

on the other hand

the U.S invaded iraq
the U.S invaded afghanistan
israel invaded lebanon

9/11 was orchestrated by osama bin laden
(a saudi), none of the 19 so-called hijackers were iraqis (most were saudis)

palestinians are islamo-fascist ready to take over the world, they are fighting the ILLEGAL israelis occupation

we have destroyed the al cia duh bases in afghganistan

we have toppled the taliban in afghanistan

SO WHO ARE THE ISLAMIC TERRORIST?

It's useless to argue with cultural equivalence twerps, but it's so hard to resist, isn't it?
Can you think of any living thing, be it a plant, animal or human being, that would willingly go through life enclosed in a dark, stifling tent?
Whenever they run their yaps about modesty, I always think of various religous groups, Amish or Mennonite, that preserve the idea of modesty by dressing plainly. But they're not locked away like subjugated animals, so I assume some muslims would regard them as westernized sluts.
People in these costumes are scary. I'm not frightened of the particular person, but I'm concerned about what they represent, and the impact they will have on all of us.

What this represents?
The embodiment of a millenium long festering of twisted ideology.

Interestingly, it is called an "inter-faith" gown but in fact is islamic. Nothing "all encompassing" about it, as "inter-faith" or ecumenical, should be.

Oh, wait, it IS all encompassing.

Gee, Skip, that moonbrush sure does paint a wide swath. I think the only other slur jaco didn't use on you was "yo mama wears army boots".

Kids these days, geeesh!

Really,how can you be ANY STUPIDER than to appease,defend and protect a radical religious group sworn to and intent on murdering you,your family and friends.
Guess it is self-explanatory then as to why these sentiments seem to come solely from the left.

You're too racist for this cat.

Praise be to Allah. What I'd like to know is why is it that it took pressure from the Muslim community to change the standard hospital gown that leaves every other patient walking around with their ass hanging out? Hopefully this will make its way to Canada soon. I'd even convert to Islam just to get one if forced to stay in the hospital.

Wait a minute, that's the regalia of the Romulan Ku Klux Klan!

Surely these immigrants must of known that when they emigrate to a western country that they are to leave behind their old customs.

When they ask for hospital burkhas they should be told, they are not available here and if you insist then go back to wherever you came from...they have them there.

Last shot at Jacky-boy: Lad, when some foreign whack-job(s) pulls something like 9/11, unlike the left, we don't spend our time just sitting around arguing about what the memorial is going to look like.

I'd even convert to Islam just to get one if forced to stay in the hospital.

I guess the right is smarter than the left - any time I've been in the hospital, I either took my robe with me or asked for a second gown.

But, for some, converting to Islam would be consistent. No thinking is required to be a lefty and it's not allowed in Islam.

I knew a Calgary doctor that worked the emergency department of an Abu Dhabi hospital. They had to build bigger examination cubicles.
If mom came in with a stomach ache, a son, interpreter, nurse, and doctor would have to squeeze in.
Mom told son, who told interpreter, who told doctor. The doctor would try and do an examination through the clothing like a game of blind man’s bluff. Then he would ask a question that was passed on by the 2 other people, like that children’s party game where a statement is passed from person to person down the line and everybody had a laugh how mixed up it is by the end of the line. So on and so on, back and forth.
Six months was enough for him there.

kathryn - nice point. Bring another gown if you don't like the hospital gown. Robert McClelland would be an easy convert to Islam; as you point out, no thinking is required in the Islamic world. Just mindless obedience to the Collective Rules, and that's the case whether in sectarial socialism or Islamic socialism.

I'm sceptical, but I frankly doubt that a UK hospital would actually treat a patient wearing that gown. That's for non-doctoral viewing, and therefore, I don't see the point of making a fuss about it. How would a doctor/nurse be able to check for the broken leg, or the cut or..?

Jacobin, the problem is that the story is showing that the presence of Muslims is moving the culture back to how it was "100 years ago" (in fact I would point out that Muslim culture is more Dark ages than Edwardian, but whatever floats your boat.)

All countries enforce social norms - this is what makes them countries. This is why multiculturalism is such a failure: large numbers of unassimilated people within a country become a hate-filled minority, set on tearing down the conventions which built the country in the first place.

1885 - In Alberta, unmarried women property owners gain the right to vote and hold office in school matters.

1916 - Manitoba becomes the first province to give women the right to vote and hold provincial office.

1916 - Women gain the right to vote and run for office in Saskatchewan provincial elections.

1917 - Women gain the right to vote and run for office in British Columbia provincial elections.

1917 - Women gain the right to vote and run for office in Ontario provincial elections.

1918 - Women gain the right to vote and run for office in Nova Scotia provincial elections.

1918 - The Canada Elections Act gives all women over 21 the federal vote.

1919 - Women gain the right to vote and run for office in New Brunswick provincial elections.

1925 - Women gain the right to vote and run for office in Newfoundland elections.

1940 - Women gain the right to vote and run for office in Quebec provincial elections.

Jacobin AKA Wacko Jacko.....perhaps a little more studying before you spout off what YOU believe to be true. Notce that the ever progressive province of Quebec was the LAST province to give women the vote.

Regarding jacobin's assertions :

before anymore of you anti-muslim freaks spew more hatred, it wasn't that long ago, in canada women couldn't vote nor did they have the right to study at universities and become doctors etc...

the canadian women fought for there rights, because during WW2, they realized after working in the factories when there men went off to war, they could do whatever men could and demanded there right to vote

Women students were allowed in Canadian universities for the first time in 1863 (Mount Allison) - technically before Canada was Canada.

The first female doctor started practising medicine in Toronto in 1867 (she went to medical school in the United States). The Toronto School of Medicine allowed her and a second women to study there in the early 1870's. She finally received her Ontario medical license in 1880.

Canadian women won the full right to vote in 1918 (this started with Manitoba, Alberta and Saskatchewan in 1916).

muslim nations are no that different than what canada used to be a 100 years ago

100 years ago women in Canada could attend school up to and including university, could become doctors, and were within 14 years of being granted the right to vote.

ok4ua said: You're too racist for this cat.

Why is it when people want to discuss another culture or belief that we happen to disagree with, we are all racists? Yet when other cultures trash our beliefs and religious stance, they are expressing their opinion that is guaranteed by the Charter of Rights and Freedoms. News flash for the lefties.....that same Charter of Rights and Freedoms protects my beliefs too. Get over it. Just because I disagree with the Liberalistic point of view, does NOT make me a racist!

now she can walk in her local Gay Pride Parade and nobody will be the wiser as to who she, or he is. Freedom from oppression at last !!

Its such a liberating feeling to have your sexuality coverd up in a robe all the time.

Praise allah

I have the impression that death by breast or uterine cancer would be more acceptable to male dominated Islam than breaking their male imposed taboos.

Now, can anyone point to the chorus of angry western feminists or UN sponsored medical practitioners indignant at how this nonsense impacts women's mortality rates in the ME? Women under the Taliban in Afghanistan were denied medical treatment systematically. How unlucky to be born a girl.

This multi-culti driven rush to accommodate our 7th century interlopers is nauseating. Burqas are an abomination against women. It's about power not piety. Isn't it time in the West to finally take a stand and clearly state that your primative demands are outside of the realm of how we choose to live. Deal with that or leave.