Sept.14 - Toronto Star identifies the person responsible as Kimveer Gill, a Columbine copycat. Via Bourque, a link to his page at Vampirefreaks.com. That page may not last long, (in case someone is motivated to save the source code and photos.)
(Sept.13 entry continues below)
Reports are coming in on multiple shootings at Dawson College in Montreal.
From radio, much of it unconfirmed: multiple wounded, including a police officer, and multiple armed suspects are still in the building. Hundreds of students have been successfully evacuated, but many others are still in the building.
CKOM has the live feed. (click the "listen live" link)
CTV has an early report.
Updates:
There are as many as four armed assailants and they're thought to be still in the building. Phone networks are overloaded - (my guess is that you should refrain from calling friends or family in Montreal at the moment).
Shots are still being fired, and a number of students have barricaded themselves inside the building. Police have reported one suspect has been "neutralized".
Now reporting two are down - one by police, another may have committed suicide. One student is believed to be dead, others have been taken to Montreal General.
A witness has described one of the gunmen as dressed in black, with a cape and black boots. Other reports of another in fatigues, but it's uncertain whether that may have been a member of law enforcement.
CBC is reporting 4 dead, 16 injured. Needless to say, there are a lot of conflicting reports flying around at the moment.
Unbelievable - CBC's Don Newman just asked BQ leader Gilles Duceppe if he thought there was a "political reason" behind the shootings. This before the scene is secured, the number of assailants confirmed or their identities known.
Do these people go out of their way to look like idiots or does it just come naturally?
Just in from a police briefing: 10 injuries, from minor to severe. No deaths confirmed. They are searching the building door to door, and most have been evacuated.
From the comments:
Posted by: bryceman at September 13, 2006 03:36 PM "Well, from the claims of the building being just about cleared, it would seem that they think it is almost over. But, I was just downstairs in my building and they are presently sealing up access to the metro. Doesn't look like they think it's over."
Newer reports put critically injured at 8.
Via news conference: One gunman, who was killed by police, all the victims are alive, though 6 are in critical condition.
Unless something new breaks, this will conclude the updates here.
I was coming back to work (downtown Montreal) from my lunch about 30 minutes ago when several police cars and an ambulance went tearing through the street towards the Dawson College area. That must be it.
Columbine comes to Canada.
Wrong again, Mikey Moore.
Yep...seems pretty hairy. The metro has been shutdown and evacuated between Lionel-Groulx and McGill. For those of you unfamiliar with Montreal, that's the busiest subway section in the city...the centre of that section is about a block away from Everything is closed off and seems to be contained. I can't give any better news than what you'll get at CTV...all I can say is everyone is talking about it and everyone has their cell-phones out.
From CJAD
3 critical injuries
several minor to severe injuries
Possibly three gunmen
Just tuned into CTV news. They're talking about one gunman. Lot's of rumour.
A guy, Michel Boyer (I think he's a student) seems to be CTV's chief witness. He's motor-mouthing on with a combination of silly emoting, loopy observations and grandstanding. He seems to be really enjoying his 15 minutes of fame. CTV would do well to dump him and find someone else to interview.
Craig Oliver should be on any minute to blame PM Harper's Afghanistan offensive.
The best I can do is CBC Montreal ( sorry, sometimes you just have to go with what's available)
The eyewitnesses seem to be a lot more credible than that guy that JR referred to.
What a horrific situation. I'll say a prayer for the innocent.
"Today's incident is horrifyingly reminiscent of another school shooting in Montreal. On Dec. 6, 1989, Marc Lepine shot 27 female engineering students at the Ecole Polytechnique, killing 14, before fatally shooting himself." ctv.ca ...-
ctv.ca does not mention this fact:
Gamil Rodrigue Gharbi, aka Marc Lepine.
Gamil R. Gharbi changed his name to Marc Lepine at age 13.
Just imagine if the victims could shoot back.
Craig Oliver should be on any minute to blame PM Harper's Afghanistan offensive.
...followed by a police spokesman declaiming that the shooter(s) was of no specific ethnicity, but maybe had a mullet.
I don't understand a young man that would want 15 mins of fame if it involved telling the world how afraid you were and how fast you ran away.
Re: Garbil Gamil: how could a man watch as he shot at young women? I can't imagine anyone getting away with that here.
Were the onlookers, those that did not run away, a bunch of neutered Laytonesque wanna be peace-loving negotiators?
As I boy, I grew up with guns, they wre like any other tool; I like to think that I would react differently if confronted with this type of situation.
My sympathy for the innocents. Contempt for the 19 yo runners.
So much for abolishing these ludicrous gun controls!
CNN has live coverage.
Well folks. It only took less than 2 hours for CBC to get Duceppe on and grill him about the political aspect of this and then droning on about the gun registry.
These people are dispicable!!
Jesus Christ, what is the matter with these people!
( Sorry for the epithet-I'm mad as hell!)
Bushman,
I only wish I were as brave as you are, figting off armed gunmen with a knapsack.
Mudslinging the NDP when 3 people are critically wounded.
Go back to that hole in the bush you crawled out of.
Oh those wacky CBCers.
Anyone know if a similar question was asked of PReston Manning in 1999 after the Taber shooting?
One or two shooters might be just lunatics, but four shooters suggests organization and a coherent (if not rational) motive.
Money isn't it - this is a college. Is the motive politics? Religion? Islamic terrorism springs to mind, of course, but I guess we must wait.
Still not clear if more than one shooter.
10 injured, no deaths.
For those unfamiliar with Montreal, this is at the corner of Attwater and Sherbrooke. Talk about downtown chaos.
CTV reporting two gunmen are dead, one by police and one possibly by suicide: http://canadiancerberus.blogspot.com/2006/09/shootings-in-montreal-update-2-gunmen_13.html
How would having the guns registered have stopped this incident?
To this time no one knows who the shooters are, their background, political leanings or muslim leanings, and Don ask such a stupid question. Typical cbc crap.
Can't be. The Gun Registry was put in place after Poly-Techq. Alan Rock said this wouldn't happen again. Well it just did. The gun registry has been up and running long enough now to have made a difference. TWO $ Billion not enough ??
Those poor students and teachers. A real nightmare. Will affect them for life. They deserve better protection from Nutcases. I am sure our Canadian Justice system will put the PerpeTRAITORS away for good.
Well Maz,, I believe CBC has finally caught up with you.
This is not good.
God Bless You my Canadian Brothers and Sisters.
I hope all goes well for the Parents.
This is just crazy , you cats have a national tragedy going on here , but News Talk 650 still has time for commercials.
Un-Believable.
Everyone should refrain from discussing motive, etc, while the whole thing's still going down.
Don Newman really laid an egg with that question to Duceppe. So premature.
Best to wait for the facts to come in. How can anyone be expected to analyze something they know only rumors about and which is still happening?
The MSM needs to calm down and concentrate on getting accurate information at this point, period.
I wonder if any facts will be withheld by authorities/MSM due to political correctness? WRT the identity of the gunmen, that is.
What's so funny about fighting off an armed guy with a knapsack, esp. if you and your friends outnumber the nut? Unless you're a no-balls coward of course. Wouldn't you rather die doing something more courageous than voting NDP...?
And Moore was always wrong: the first ever high school shooting in history happened right here in Canada, long before Columbine.
College still not certainly cleared. Police send in another swat team to ensure it is clear.
Well, from the claims of the building being just about cleared, it would seem that they think it is almost over. But, I was just downstairs in my building and they are presently sealing up access to the metro. Doesn't look like they think it's over.
Political correctness reigns/rains/reins. ...-
"A suspect has been neutralised, which means he is not shooting any more," police spokesman Ian LaFreniere said."
abc news
While it's better to die on your feet than to live on your knees, that's the sort of thing you have to learn over time. A teenager generally doesn't know that yet, and their first instinct is to save themselves - the basic survival instinct. Don't be too hard on them.
Luckily the neice-in-law doesn't have classes Wednesdays, so she's at home all freaked out doing roll-call amongst her friends ...
According to a student witness interviewed by FOX, he had been in the cafeteria and witnessed a friend shot, he stated there were two police officers in the cafeteria at the time and they did nothing. Is that possible? Unfortunately, FOX didn't follow-up on that detail. Maybe they were rent-a-cops without arms.
It's very sad.
"Sealing up access to the Metro"?
Sounds ominous.
First hand journalism taking place via Wikinews and IRC channel.
Piss away a few more billions on more gun "control".....but try some "retard" control first...starting in Ottawa...
OK...first a disclaimer...What I'm writing here is just what I am hearing on the street...I am not trying to represent it as anything more than unsubstantiated rumor:
I am about 8-10 blocks from the scene. The people on the street are saying that a few police officers were on the scene when the shooting started. The rumor is that there were "a few guys who showed up dressed up in Goth." Something bothered the students who saw them (I don't know if they saw guns or not - it hasn't been mentioned in what I heard) and the police were called. The story is that there were police present - but inside the building when the shooting began outside.
They are now saying that there was only one shotter and that there will be a briefing shortly.
Looks like this one will get blamed on a combination of the Conservative government and Marilyn Manson.
I work at McGill station and the Westbound metro is still closed. Police vans at almost every corner downtown. Depressing day here in Montreal.
police reporting its over, a single gunman.
press conference at 4:20 Montreal time
"Do these people go out of their way to look like idiots or does it just come naturally?"
The only proper response to that type of question is:
"I was going to ask you how many times you beat your wife this week, Don."
Shep Smith at FOX has indicated they are getting a slew of emails from Canadian viewers claiming that the school has a high Jewish population.
Looking for a motive?
He asked that question of the Montreal Newsreader he had on the phone. She responded in the negative.
Jeez, the situation isn't even over yet and everyone in the MSM is trying to find out WHY!
I respect Fox as the best source for news but this is getting too much.
Next there gonna have Layton on CBC looking for the "root causes" of violence in Canada.
This isn't the time to be questioning motives. It's a time to get the folks involved to safety and to catch/shoot/kill/otherwise disable the perpetrators.
The MSM are nothing but whores!
A tragic event reduced to entertainment and political posturing.
My wife's daughter works across the street from the college and say the police shoot the gunman in the head from her office. He had a Mohawk haircut and was dressed in dark coloured clothing.
Thank God there will be no need for a bail hearing.
Nice to see the emergency plan in Montreal working so well.
One shooter killed by police. That poor policeman, he will be vilified for using force. Will he be charged with murder, this is Canada after all. Why isn't talibanjack there to talk and negotiate with the shooters. My 19yr old grandson come home for lunch and watched a bit of this and his comment. Someone acting out Grand Theft Auto. Will this be their defence, and a video game producer charged. Then he went back to work.
Mary: they don't prosecute when the culprit is dead.
I want to clarify my post due to a typo. My wife's daughter SAW the police shoot the gunman in the head from her office.
If any more proof were needed to show that the media are a depraved and mindless pack of idiots, CBC just provided it. They cut to what was supposed to be a police briefing and find the assembled reporters laughing and making jokes while waiting for the briefing to start. What a classy group.
CTV has the Boyer kid in studio now. Any bets that this kid is preparing to study drama or film? Makes me gag.
Kathy Shaidle:
Of course you have proven your comments by living through a similar experience and reacting the way you say.
Some dumbass 19 YO is getting 15 mins. of fame. So what?
Please let's remember what it's like to be that young.
very conflicting reports, CNN several, Ctv.ca 13, CBC.ca 16.
Bryceman: have the police issued any statements?
Actually they had Layton on from some downtown street somewhere.Smiled and blamed it on guns coming from the states.
What a complete moron.
Glad to see we're not politicizing this thing here before we even know who or why.
As for Sheppard Smith's question about the Jewish poulation at the school, I doubt that this was a factor. I can tell you that most anglophone Jewish Montrealers would go to CEGEP at either Marianopolis or Vanier, or perhaps Brebeuf if they study in French, but Dawson is considered last resort.