Ryerson computer science instructor Ilkka Kokkarinen has ended his blogging days
After the events of the recent days, I have decided to take down my blog, and would like to apologize to all people who have been hurt or offended by my old posts.
And what mortal sin did he commit? He was reportedly in need of sensitivity training after writing comments like this:
“I have never really understood how lesbian separatism could work even in principle, since few modern women would want to live in what is essentially a stone age society, which is pretty much what women could ever achieve on their own without men around.”He goes on to say that the feminists would live off the “generous” welfare cheques provided by men, “assuming that they wanted to eat (and usually lesbians do eat a lot, as you can tell just by looking at them).”
And we know what a keen sense of humour lesbian feminists have.
Whats with this sensitivty crap what ever became of freedom of speech and freedom of expression cant anyone do anything with offending a bunch of damn minorities frankly they should tell the witches at NOW JESSIE JACKASSON,AL SHARPTON,THE NAACP THOSE DAMN ILLEGAL ALEINS TO GET A LIFE
Mock a Dyke lose your job...sounds reasonable! Eh?
Hm. Another victory for the bad guys.
Isn't Ryerson where Wendy Cukier works?
Oh yah, freedom of speech is alive, well and doing just fine in this country.
Dr. Kathryn Church of the School of Disability Studies at Ryerson is exploring the role of clothing in the lives of women with disabilities...
I don't know, do you think his comments have any merit. The above is from the Front page of their website.
Maybe if she dosn't already have it the Feds can extend a whopping grant for the above.
dmorris
Indeed it is.
Now stand by for the calls for a National Feminist Insult Registry.
There's no humour section in feminist bookstores...
So, let me get this straight: He was pilloried for stating his opinions and being right ... of course, freedom of speech is always upheld when it is something the left wants to whine about but not when someone else has an opinion contrary.
Awww.. A member of the faculty was discouraged from disparaging an identified, persecuted segment of people and you plebes would deny his opprobrium. I understand that Jews and blacks are humour deficient on these matters, as well.
He should blog anonymously, online. That could work.
Still, it sucks.
"which is pretty much what women could ever achieve on their own without men around"
Walk up to this woman...
http://www.nicoleball.com/
...and say that!
He should feel lucky;, so far offending this group only results in sensativity training. Islamist riot and have carbaques when they are offended. Is canada far behind this practice. Thought police=islamists.
This is why I don't blog under my real identity. The PC fascists would be on me just like that if I didn't have a moniker.
As for this silly little invention of the left called "sensitivity training" ("leftofascistic indoctrination/brainwashing", to be more accurate), it's time to require all leftists, gays, Muslims, etc. to undergo this stuff whenever they're caught saying anything we regular, rational folks find "offensive".
Turnabout is fair play. The tables must be turned. Put the shoe on the other foot already!
Maybe he goes a bit too far. So what? The feminists and their supporters go a LOT further in their contempt for all males. Who is standing up to them? Who is telling the feminists that hatred of males is wrong?
The whole thing drives me a bit batty. We cannot achieve what we, at the time leftists, wanted to achieve through women's liberation without stomping hard on hatred of males, discrimination targeted at males and on interference with freedom of speech.
Equality means EQUALITY. The good must go with the bad. The convenient must go with the inconvenient.
THe matter would be cleared up instantly if he simply converted to Islam.
is this what my brothers and I served 50 yrs for????why my mother's family fought in world war I and II?????from the native who lost his order of canada to this???i mean, we are not even talking about free speech here...we are talking about dumb people saying dumb things....that is a crime????
did the lesbian feminazi's who said all men are potential rapists get sensitivity training? Doubt it.
So free speech is OK when it applies to sexist homophobes but not respected Government scientists volunteering their time for our country?
Where were all these so-called free speech advocates during the recent dismissal of Dr. Andrew Okulitch for doing nothing more than pointing out the absurdity of the ridiculous partisan rebranding of "The Government of Canada" to the "The New Government of Canada"?
Time to clean up all houses of learning, get back to just the classic education, across the board for all, no matter what their fittings and below the belt urges.
What kind of cesspool of humanity are we creating?
Gay, Lesbian, Transgender, I-don't-know-what-I-am, who the hell has to know? Get on with life, mind your own affairs, keep your primative urges out of it.
Do these silly fools think they came off a tree? Do they have no love or respect for their parents, who had to be male and female?
It's time we all smarten up and put a stop to this
degeneration of humanity.
Number 1: Freedom of Speech is worth fighting for. As a right-wing, overweight (but getting smaller each month), feminist lesbian, I am going to write a scathing letter against the harrassment of this man for his opinions. Did he inadvertantly wake up to the thought police from Turkey?
Number 2: Sean re: Nicole Ball - she looks horrific with the zero body fat and breast implants that are nothing more than fluid bags overstretched with skin.
Number 3: Camille Paglia, a lesbian feminist, said women would still be living in mud huts without men. I disagree, but we have to own that it came from our camp first.
The thing is, freedom of speech doesn't exist in Canada. Our Charter did that to us.
Section 2b says "Everyone has thefollowing fundamental freedoms; freedom of thought, belief, opinion and expression, including freedom of the press and other media of communication"
and then, our same Charter took this right away from us, in Section 27, "This Charter shall be interpreted in a manner consistent with the preservation and enhancement of the multicultural heritage of Canadians".
What this means is that an individual may have freedom of speech, BUT if this freedom is understood to harm or not 'preserve and enhance' a GROUP identity - then, you are out of luck.
What's a group? See Section 15, Equality rights, which in part 1, says that every individual is equal, and there can't be any discrimination based on 'race, national or ethnic origin, colour, religion, sex, age or mental or physical disability". Got that? Those are the rights of individuals.
Then, in the same section 15, part 2 takes all of the above away, by saying "subsection 1 does not preclude anylaw,program or activity that has as its object the amedlioration of conditions of disadvantaged individuals or GROUPS (my emphasis) including those that are disadvantaged because of race, national or ethnic origin, colour, religion, sex, age or mental or physical disability". OK
So, our Charter specifically set up a situation where individuals have NO rights. All our 'basic rights' can be trumped and denied by any group. Period.
So, the lesbian group can self-identify (note the term, self-identify) themselves as a group, as disadvantaged, as blah blah. And anyone who expresses a criticism is 'discriminating against those lesbians who are 'attempting to ameliorate their disadvantaged lives'.
That's our Charter.
Ok...we are all sitting back blogging anonymously...is this guy (you are right ...saying dumb things ..in a free country)getting any press? any public response from sensible Canadians?This is a warning and it will get worse if we sit back and let it.
Canadians don't have freedom of speech. Our Charter denies it.
The Charter, in section 2 says that 'everyone has the following fundamental freedoms and part 'a' says: freedom of thought, belief, opinion and expression, including freedom of the press and other media of communication".
But, this 'right' is empty; it is taken away from the individual by two other Sections. These are sections 15 and 27. Both of them privilege the group over the individual.
section 15 says, in part 1 that every individual is equal, without discrimination based on race, national or ethnic origin, colour, religion, sex, age or mental or physical disability'. OK? Got that.
But part 2 of that same section removes your equality, by saying that your equality is trumped by 'any law, program or activity that has as its object the amelioration of conditions of disadvantaged individuals or groups including those that are disadvantaged because of race, national or ethnic origin, colour, religion, sex, age or mental or physical disability'.
Got it? You, the individual, are trumped by group rights, you cannot criticize their actions because their actions 'ameliorate their disadvantages'. Since you are not a group, then, you don't have as many rights as does a group. You don't have the POWER of a group to silence individuals who are deemed, by the group, to threaten the group.
The other section of the Charter that promotes groups is Section 27 which says 'the Charter shall be interpreted in a manner consistent with the preservation and enhancement of the multicultural heritage of Canadians'.
Culture is a group construct, confined to a group, not an individual. So, the group's behavior and beliefs are privileged over that of any individual. And the individual is, under section 15, silenced.
So much for free speech in Canada. Our Charter silenced it.
Q: How many feminists does it take to screw in a light bulb?
A: That's not funny.
This is why I DON'T blog anonymously: because everyone can kiss my lumpy butt if they don't like what I say. Go ahead and report me to the Brainwashing Commission -- my traffic would triple overnight and I'd get thousands of dollars in donations (mostly from Americans -- they have more money) in a week.
Kathy: Are you independently employed? I believe it makes a difference. If you are not beholden to someone else for your income, you can afford to be outspoken. When you are employed by someone else (and particularly in certain industries / professions), you are gambling with your source of income when you speak your mind.
If I were single and/or if I were financially independent, I would be FAR more outspoken than I am...but I (and presumably many more, such as the Ryerson prof and CS) must temper my public remarks lest it affect me and/or my family financially.
Yes, its a darn shame that we must keep quiet at times, but food and shelter come before personal expression on the hierarchy of needs.
I can say whatever I want because I'm mentally ill -- it gives me the ultimate out. It also makes me the ultimate Canadian (at least in Toronto) as I can blame all of my problems on something else. ;-)
Sean, sounds like a 'root cause' to me. Do you play basketball?
Most humanities programmes should be simply shut down. They do little more than disseminate ( a sexist word?) the ignorance, resentment and PC prejudices of the various professors.
Some will say that that's an anti-intellectual position, but when one examines the intellectualism present at institutes of higher learning, one realises that it's the intellectuals themselves who've done in these disciplines and reduced them to characatures of what they once stood for.
I studied Poli-Sci in the late 70s and early 80s and, apart from only one or two professors, everyone in my department attempted to close off my mind and to inculcate me with leftist claptrap under the rubric of "expanding my horizons"
By my final year I could spin out 10,000 word term papers on my old Smith-Corona without even the need for a draft copy. A little dab of Faucault, a kiss of Marcuse and a nod to Chomskey would always net you an "A".
Simple as that.
On the rare occasions when I did strike out on my own, when I did independant research and when I expressed opinions different from those of the leftist mainstream, my efforts would net me a "C"........minus.
Think for yourself and you fail.
Lick the prof's butt and regurgitate his speech and you're "enlightened".
It's all the same bullshit, bolshevik U.
I don't blog anonymously either Kathy.
But the 'feminazis(?)' still try to kick your backside. Cost me one career already, but I won't shut up.
Face it the guy was involved in computers; he was a SWG (single white geek) for God's sake.
Obviously, discrimination against an easily identifiable group, you know pressed white shirt, with plastic pocket protector and tape on thick glasses type.
This is obviously a case of Charter of Rights discrimination against equality. You see if your a SWG or SWC (single white christian) this is obviously discrimination on the basis of section 15 of the Charter based on race, religion and mental disability.
On the other hand this is doubly so if you are SWCG (single white christian geek) You know the types, guys who worship God and the wonders of technology. Clearly these guys need some protection.
Ryerson should be flooded with emails demanding his reinstatement forthwith. Isn't it time for a massive email campaign to defend SINGLE WHITE GEEKS!!!
Mount the ramparts, and push down the walls of 'feminazi repression'. Revolution for the SINGLE WHITE GEEK who is systematically discriminated for no other reason than he likes to work with 'mice'.
I mean are we 'mice or men'?!?
FREEDOM and EQUALITY for Ilkka Kokkarinen!!
BTW do feminists accept the concept of mortal sin or do they want the pope beheaded as well?
Down with "Cultural Marxism", FREEDOM for SINGLE WHITE GEEKS!!
NOTE: MOST SWG use wireless keyboards and mice.
I mean SWGs are leading the way they have even FREED their MICE!! So they can't be MICE they must be MEN.
EMAIL RYERSON TODAY, AND SAVE A GEEK!!!!!
The fight goes on at CBU.
See: www.sleepyoldbear.com
This is the third time I've tried to post this; the filter grabs it each time; I'm talking about our charter and freedom. Hmmm. What's with the filter?
My point is that we don't have freedom of speech in Canada. Sure, sect.2 says that 'everyone has the following fundamental freedoms' which include b, freedom of thought, belief, opinion and expression, including freedom of the press and other media of communication. End quote.
BUT, this is empty; that's because there are not one but two other sections that deny this individual right by privileging group rights over individual rights. Got that? These two sections that do this are 15 and 27.
Part 15 says, in 1) that 'every individual is equal...without discrimination based on race, national or ethnic origin, colour, religion, sex, age or mental or physical disability. End quote.
BUT, the next part, 2, removes this equality. It says that your equality 'does not preclude any law, program or activity that has as its object the amelioration of conditions of disadvantaged individuals or groups including those that are disadvantaged because of race, national or ethnic origin, colour, religion, sex, age or mental or physical disability. end quote.
Got it? Individual rights are precluded by group rights. And any individual is, by default, a member of any of those groups. So, the group rights dominate individual rights.
And section 27, further emphasizes the domination of groups over individuals in Canada. It says that 'this Charter shall be interpreted in a manner consistent with the preservation and enhancement of the multicultural heritage of Canadians. end quote.
Again, that privileges group beliefs and behaviour over individual beliefs and behaviour.
Our charter most emphatically does not provide us with individual rights, with individual rights to free thought and speech. It privileges the self-description of beliefs and behaviour of groups. So, if my group is lesbian, then its definition of valid beliefs and behaviour is privileged over any criticism - because the group's beliefs and behavior 'ameliorate' the disadvantages of the group.
Get it? Canadians don't have any individual freedoms.
Now, will the filter reject this anti-charter argument again?
I find his posts in question to be rather over the top, tasteless, and frankly juvenile -- precisely the reason he should have the right to continue posting. His postings should be shown for what they are in an open market of ideas. The right to free speech does not equal the right to be taken seriously. Now, if only feminazis' comments could be subjected to the same level of opprobium!
John Palubiski - what needs to come to an end on campuses are the lame gender/race/sexual orientation garbage classes that pass for serious scholarship. There is no science behind this junk. They get to make up whatever they want. Ward Churchill invented himself. How does such a fraudulant baffoon get a job in the first place, let alone tenure? At a major state university no less. The creep is still at large on campus.
All of these victim pimps are self-invented. They are modern vampires sucking grey matter from our 18 year olds.
We have freedom of speech in Canada - you know like freedom to criticize Christianity, freedom to denigrate Western values and traditions... what more do you want?
Christian at 08:19 Asks "Where were all these so-called free speech advocates during the recent dismissal of Dr. Andrew Okulitch....."
I belive that there was much discussion about that as well and I did not hear anyone standing up for the action. However there was a question about whether this was coincidence or cuase and effect.
Since no one has provided any further info who can tell?
If it is true that he was turfed for this reason it would be "Completely despicable" and the deputy assistannt flunky bureaucrat who pulled that stunt should be fired!
If you care.....
Send letters to your local MP for an explanation.
jaeger forgive me, I couldn’t get this to post on your Joe Settler post yesterday so will do it here.
Roger Scruton at the New Criterion had a recent article on Enoch Powell and the gist is similar to your white Rhodesian comment and the issue of free speech and respect for diversity of thought.
A quote:
“When the embassy in Tehran was invaded and United States citizens taken hostage, President Carter chose not to notice what was, certainly de facto and probably de jure, a declaration of war. That may prove to have been the costliest mistake made by America in the Middle East. Likewise, the silencing of Enoch Powell has proved more costly than any other post-war domestic policy in Britain, since it has ensured that immigration can be discussed only now, when it is too late to do anything about it”
Mr. Kokkarinen should have ended, "and I really love Big Sister", pace the ending of Orwell's "Nineteen Eighty-Four".
What a sad world we live in for a person to feel they have to refrain from expressing themselves because of a few self-righteous dimwits. That we surpress or dismiss unpopular ideas in the first place (we all do it to an extent, sadly) is the first in a long list of reasons why the human race still needs to grow up - and lighten up. Sigh.
Nice to hear that everyone hear believes in freedom of speech and academic freedom, so I suppose you all supported Ward Churchill's right to say what he said about 9/11? Right?
Penny: I agree with you.
What happened with higher-learning can be traced back to the 60s when universities expanded exponentially and ended up, thus, hiring a lot of two-bit mediocre "minds" equipped with a grab-bag of marxist talismans.
It may sound very elitist of me, but with all these empty classrooms and idle profs students who should have been chanelled into the trades were encouraged, instead, to get a B.A. or even a Masters.
We don't need dumb diva leftists, every last one an apprentice sorcerer, brainwashing youngsters and perverting their minds à la Ward Churchill.
What we need are plumbers, electricians, carpenters, mechanics and tradesmen (and tradeswomen!) of all sorts in order to generate economic growth and prosperity.
Instead, what we get is the wooly pilosity of the "lesbian studies" department.
Higher learning makes you stupid.
Peter D :
I think its everyone's right to make a jackass of themselves, with the attendant fallout.
What I do not like, is that if his voice is shut down . Who's next?
Did he insult lesbians . Sure. So what?
Are we so thin skinned & weak, that at the slightest aside, some go into victim mode.
Instead of fighting back themselves. They swarm as a group to shut up any criticism. This is perhaps why a brimful of bullies now attack individuals. They see the link from observing their model adults polarizing behavior today. The ones they look up too. As well as the lack of civility coupled with intelligent debate, with a reverence for life instead of nilism.
You see I like too know who the nuts are. Better to know where they live, or be online than outside creating mischief.
This is a much deeper subject. We all know. But remember the more you ban, the more power the next group has to censor you. If you do not reach there level of ideological purity.
Remember the Harvard President. An ardent Liberal. He had the impertinence to state the obvious & look what happen to him.
I expect for those living or raised away from the truths of existence or any criticism would find this hard to understand. Lets all grow a bigger spine.
"Nice to hear that everyone hear believes in freedom of speech and academic freedom, so I suppose you all supported Ward Churchill's right to say what he said about 9/11? Right?"
Peter D.,
Are there any opinions for which a college professor should not be held accoutable--i.e., no repercussions? If so, can you give me an example?
I'm sure that lesbians would be more than capable of taking care of their food needs. What I think would definitely be lacking in the land of Lesbos would be any inkling of joy or beauty. Furthermore, without men to pick on and blame they would soon turn against each other.
Wow...no comment on you people. Just wow.
why do so many butch lezes look like overweight brushcutted middle aged men? why doesnt the partner just go for the real thing and make some middle aged overweight male very happy for the female company? and why do they invariably chain smoke?
True, there is a subset of lesbians that look like brush cut, middle-aged fat men, or vice versa. Neither of these two groups seem particulary concerned with their physical health or appearance.
There are also lesbians like Portia DeRossi (google her). Lesbians come in all sizes and flavours: anorexic aerobic lesbians, vanilla lesbians, leather dykes, diesel dykes, granola lesbians, lipstick lesbians, lentil lesbians, sporty dykes, butch dykes, stone butch dykes, high femme lesbians, the list goes on and on.
No more lesbians smoke than straight women smoke - in my experience and acquaintances. Your mileage may vary.
From his blog:
(the post is here: http://sixteenvolts.blogspot.com/2006/09/one-more-clarification.html)
"
I am doing this completely in my free will to become a much better person than I used to be. No entity whatsoever has threatened me with any kind of consequences for blogging. This is not any kind of violation of my rights or free speech. In particular, if any of you want to start email or other campaigns about this, or in some other way publically accuse people and organizations for having treated me wrong, please don't. I seriously mean this. The recent events were merely a fortunate wakeup call for me to take a good hard look back at what I am and had become. This is not some underhanded attempt to grovel because I am afraid of losing my job or something. Because I'm not, as far as I know. And even if I were, that would be peanuts compared to the idea of the woman you love looking at you and you see how she is disappointed of you, asking you why you would want to write mean things. I would rather shovel shit for living every day than have to come up with an answer to that. Because there really is none."
(Emphasis added)
So what was everyone saying about his free speech being violated?
Kind of reminds me on what i read in the book SHAKE DOWN HOW THE GOVERMENT SCREWS YOU FROM A TO Z in which some wussie fair houseing group sued a news paper becuase these jerks said the words MASTER BEDROOM and PROFFESIONAL were racsis code words or the term walk in closet discriminated against the handicapped seams to me the ones with the real handicaps are those liberals they dont ever use their brains ever
To Canadian Sentinel, who sez: "This is why I don't blog under my real identity. The PC fascists would be on me just like that if I didn't have a moniker."
They don't have PC fascists in Canada anymore; just CPoC fascists.