More terror raids in the UK overnight.
The Washington Post had been reading the blogosphere, they'd have figured this out months ago. And now, there are finally questions being asked about the conduct of Plame prosecutor Patrick J. Fitzgerald, You don't say?
The CBC gets letters!
An NDP MP goes AWOL on Jack Layton.
A reminder - check out the new National Newswatch aggregator as a source for breaking news items.
Add your own in the comments.
And don't forget the Kate-O-Shop contest! There are several entries in already.
Office for Standards in Education Inspection Report
Jameah Islameah School
8 December 2005
Information about the school
....Its aims and objectives are set out in its prospectus. Chief among these aims are to ‘provide a high standard of academic and Islamic education’ and ‘to develop real Islamic moral values’. It continues, ‘it is our aim that through the curriculum we will provide pupils with an education, which will encourage each individual pupil to achieve his highest intellectual, spiritual and moral potential within an Islamic environment.’
Summary of main findings
Jameah Islameah School does not provide a satisfactory education for its pupils....
http://tinyurl.com/oqrht
(PDF)
Ambrose trip costs questioned
Environment Minister Rona Ambrose's office is mum on why it took four political staffers to tag along with her to a trade conference for two days in Vancouver at a cost of $14,345.
http://url123.com/ybxu7
I think maybe Kinsella has crossed over and will now become a PMSH supporter.
Christina Lawand is not the villian in this case.She is just the messenger,a paid meat puppet who's job is to read whatever is put in front of her. It is the higher-ups who put this farce together who should be hung out to dry.Besides Christina is a fox.
We should nuke Iran
By MICHAEL COREN
It is surely obvious now to anybody with even a basic understanding of history, politics and the nature of fascism that something revolutionary has to be done within months -- if not weeks -- if we are to preserve world peace...
Toronto Sun
A member of 'Progressive Bloggers', Steve V., who is also a new executive for his local Liberal Party of Canada, questions how the party is 'deciding' on their delegates.
farnwide.blogspot.com/2006/09/this-is-democracy.html
Sat,Sept02/06 "This Is Democracy?
The first time I joined the Liberal Party, many years ago, it was done at the behest of my father, who was encouraged to signup as many people as possible to get a desired candidate the nomination in my riding. An "instant Liberal" if you will, the process always struck me as more an exercise in gaming the system than true participation in democracy. Now, many years later I have re-joined the party on my own accord, in the hopes of having a small voice in the democratic process. Let's just say, I'm hardly impressed at the way this party apparently operates.
I was offered a seat for the local provincial party executive, primarily to help support the person who originally came to the house to fill out the forms....
What I found particularly distasteful was a conversation I had with a local member, wherein I was trying to find out about a Ignatieff appearance in my riding. I was essentially told that if I did attend this brunch to "make sure you mention you are on the executive because Ignatieff will be more likely to talk to you", implying that a mere party member is the equivalent of a serf in the eyes of the elite. BTW, I did speak with Ignatieff, but failed to mention my "credentials"- he was quite engaging.
Fast forward to yesterday,...... I asked about the voting process to determine delegates and I must say I was shocked at the response. "Well, Ignatieff already has quite a few delegates, and the problem with our riding is most of the power resides elsewhere, so we don't know how it will all play out".
Huh? I don't recall a vote yet, how is it that Ignatieff has already secured delegates? I know the riding head supports Ignatieff, but why does that translate into automatic support? The person also mentioned some of the other candidates had committed delegates, including herself who intended to represent Dryden.
Pardon my ignorance, but I assumed we would have a meeting, wherein everyone votes on preference and delegates are alloted based on percentages. ....
My impression is that you secure the local party leadership and you guarantee support- period. My sense of democracy doesn't quite work this way, nor do I wish to try and manipulate to help my choice (whomever that may be). So, I intend to be present at the "vote", and if it reeks of anti-democratic, insider advantage politics I will make my opinion known.
...I'm not naive enough to suggest all the parties don't work on the margins, but nor have I found my dealings with this party to be a shining example of equality and open debate. Time to burn down the backroom :)"
Expect Peter Stoffer will be drawn and quartered by Jack Lenin, oops Layton, for daring to be anything besides the unquestioning yes man that NDP MP's are expected to be. Perhaps someone should inform JL that the word 'Democratic' appears in the party name. God help us and our military if this twit ever is PM. Re-equipping our troops will mean issuing them with white flags. Fighting terrorism will mean talking nice to them, followed by curling up in a ball, hiding in a corner, and hoping they will go away. Suggest JL drop into the middle of a Taliban or Al Queda camp and try out his making-nice strategy with them, the rest of us will win whatever happens.
The path to terror in Canada
An exclusive report: Training ground
Stewart Bell, National Post
Three months after the RCMP began arresting 18 suspects accused of plotting terror attacks in Canada, an investigation by the National Post has uncovered a web of links to Pakistan. Today, in the first of four parts, the role of a Pakistani training camp is revealed...
...An accused member of the Toronto extremist group that the RCMP says plotted al-Qaeda-inspired terror attacks in southern Ontario, Mr. James allegedly visited Balakot for training during a recent four-month trip to Pakistan...
...Unemployed and a follower of Imam Ali Hindy's firebrand preachings at the Salaheddin Islamic Centre in Scarborough, Mr. James left Toronto on Nov. 5, 2005...
I found the reporting on this sad event to be a tad "politically correct", or maybe it's me.
http://iamanenglishman.com/page.php?iCategoryId=501&iParentId=481
Michael Coren
"Put boldly and simply, we have to drop a nuclear bomb on Iran."*
*Ibid.
Jack "My Head Exploded" Layton and Bev Desjarlais.
Ask Bev Desjarlais...
"In the NDP, Bev Desjarlais was stripped of her position in the Party’s shadow cabinet for failing to vote in favour of the Civil Marriage Act. She was the only NDP MP to vote against same-sex marriage."
Layton later ousted Bev Desjarlais as an NDP candidate.
Stoffer will be gone; a loser; dissent is verboten/forbidden in the socialist/fascist NDP. ...-
In socialist jargon/groupspeak this action is "solidarity". ...-
Jack the Dipper/Jack Chamberlain
Is a national disgrace.
Lewis
Another example of media bias. After Harper announced additional funding for the Olympics and said not to expect anymore the local global Calgary station,owned by bellglobal media,ran a rider across the screen during the newscast. This read that Harper was cutting off funding for the Olympics.Nothing about the extra funds,of course.Decieve,dodge, and divert,the three D's of a good liberal.
Browns/blacks/greens killing browns/Sudanese has no value/no news value to the left liberal/socialists/MSM. ...-
Red Cross ambulance driver killed, world yawns | September 2nd, 2006
Meryl Yourish — During the Hezbullah war, a Red Cross ambulance was supposedly fired on by Israel, and headlines race around the world, causing hundreds of fraudulent news stories, what with the ambulance having never been hit by IDF missiles. But the world still got to read about it with their morning coffee the next day.
Sometime in the last two weeks, a Red Cross ambulance driver was murdered after having been kidnapped. Nobody knows when, because nobody really noticed, and nobody really cares—because he was a Sudanese, and he was killed in Darfur. The ambulance driver wasn’t an Arab killed by an Israeli. There’s absolutely no news value in another dead Sudanese. After all, there have already been some 200,000 Sudanese killed in the war—two hundred times the number of Lebanese killed—and nobody really cares. It hardly even makes the evening news. I could only find a dozen or so articles on Google News about it.
http://www.jacksnewswatch.com/
Captain’s Quarters | North Korea Understands The Significance
The US successfully tested its missile-defense system again this week, and this time it specifically used North Korean missile technology in its test. The North Koreans did not miss the significance of the results:
(Link from Jack's newswatch)
"North Korea on Saturday accused the United States of threatening war against the communist nation with its missile defense test, and vowed to strengthen its own self-defense to counter any US attack." Jerusalem Post
Beslam should never be far out of our minds, the evil that commits acts like this should be exterminated.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1209052/posts
Latest release from Dion: "smog and air".
..."Dion,... released a major piece on smog and air quality yesterday," [sic]. Taber says wait for his 40 page-document... 40 pages... bilingual/bilingue? re-cyclable?
Iggy is having a second/another launch (first launch sank like a lead balloon.)
Kenny "Where's the Puck" has a "vision". ...-
JANE TABER - G&M
SENIOR POLITICAL WRITER(Libwhore)[sic]
Michael Ignatieff is relaunching his leadership bid this week, delivering his policy manifesto in a major event Wednesday in Toronto where he is to be surrounded by his caucus supporters.
Meanwhile, Ken Dryden, the former hockey great and former cabinet minister, will release "his vision document for Canada" on Tuesday in Ottawa.
Mr. Dryden, who has emphasized learning throughout his private and political career, is trying to capitalize on what he believes is the excitement of students going back to school as a way to kick off this phase of his campaign.
And former Liberal environment minister Stéphane Dion, who released a major piece on smog and air quality yesterday, is to deliver a 40-page document, also on Tuesday, on climate change and energy. ...-
http://www.voy.com/178771/31311.html
The "crooked [corrupt] sermon-givers at the United Nations" spew more puke/barf. ...-
UN blames corrupt officials for record Afghan opium crop; also pocket aid money
KABUL (AP) - Opium cultivation in Afghanistan is spiralling out of control, rising 59 per cent this year to produce a record 6,100 ton - nearly a third more than the world's drug users consume, the UN said Saturday. via cnews
..............
Let Us Now Praise Claudia Rosett
Rosett covers the despots of North Korea and the Middle East as well as the crooked sermon-givers at the United Nations. She follows the dissidents who are ...
www.weeklystandard.com/Content/Public/Articles/000/000/005/364rxwlt.asp
Layton receives a white feather*. ...-
Fallen Soldier's Father Slams Layton's Call For Troop Pullout
Jim Davis of Bridgewater, N.S., lost his son six months ago and is critical of NDP Leader Jack Layton's demand for an end to the military mission.
via national newswatch
*symbol of cowardice.
What gets me is how do you get peace with a group that do not believe in Freedom for the People, Women's Rights, Schools etc...
Layton wants to negotiate with a group that is entirely opposite to what his party stands for,is he going to demand these issues? Dose he think he could get SSM passed there too? What is this guy Smoking?
Why do people elect this idiot?
"We have Peace in Our time" sound familiar
Jack Layton and the NDP have made it clear they don't care if Afghanistan goes back to the Taliban
publicly executing women..
(pic here)
http://www.canadaka.net/modules.php?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&p=374857#374857
Kahentinetha Horn blogging at http://www.ottawacore.com via bloggingtories.ca
Talk about your big-tent party!
Listened to Roy Green the other day. He was filling in for Charles Adle.
Roy had some guy on there talking about a conspiracy with the Bush admisitration bringing down the Twin Towers with planned explosives.
My take on all these conspiracy NUTS is the same way I took them during 1999 with the Y2K catastrify that we would be living through.
People horded water, toilet paper, fuel etc. Some people were in panic mode.
My wife and I didn't change one thing on our lives with the advent of Y2K.
Guess what.....you all know the outcome :)
Oh well I sure those who stored all that toilet paper will eventually use it up :(
So goes with these conspiracy NUTS.
Michael Coren is a bloody idiot. To paraphrase: "Let's kill innocent people for the sake of peace."
The only good thing about the Toronto Sun is the Sunshine girl...the rest isn't even suitable as toilet paper.
David Warren is just another conventional coward:
"I’m guessing most of us would do whatever they asked for the chance to keep drawing breath. So I have a suggestion to Warren and anyone else who has a problem with what Centanni and Wiig did.
Offer yourself up. Sgt. Keith Maupin has been missing for two years. Israel wants three of itssoldiers back. In exchange for you, maybe Al Qaeda will tell Maupin’s parents what they did with him. Maybe Hamas and Hezbollah will produce the Israelis. Maybe not, it doesn’t matter. Because this really isn’t about any innocent’s life or death. It’s about your big chance at martyrdom. So put up, or shut up. Unless you are just another conventional coward."
http://url123.com/y7hqk
Seems like an opportune moment to offer congratulations to Kate and Small Dead Animals for scoring the prestigious, reader-selected "Con Of The Week" award from ConUcopia. Kate's award winning entry and prize may be viewed at http://www.stageleft.info/2006/09/02/con-of-the-week-10/.
lberia: Yours is certainly one way to look at the Iran issue. However, are you willing to sleepwalk your way to (in effect) suicide by not dealing with the issue of Iran having and using nuclear weapons? And have the rest of the western world sleepwalk with you to their demise?
When the first bombs from Iran start going off killing innocent people, what would you have to say for yourself? "How was I supposed to know that they would actually do what they said they were going to do?"
The time to act is before they get the bomb...through an analysis of their own words, it is easy to conclude that they would use nuclear weapons as soon as they get them.
Having said that, I think that nuking Iran IS a preposterous idea...but strategic (conventional) bombing of military, nuclear and governmental sites in Iran is realistic.
Preach appeasement if you wish, but I would rather someone else die than me...and if they're stupid enough to encourage attack with their foolish brinkmanship, then so be it. Warn them, warn them again and warn them a dozen times over...but if they do not stop, then consider it an act of war and attack.
Michael Coren says:
Comparisons to the Nazis in the 1930s are unfair -- to the Nazis. Hitler had the French army, the largest in Europe, on his border and millions of Soviet infantry just a few hours march away. Iran has no aggressive enemies in the region.
Exactly.
What is Iran's problem?
They want nukes so they can kill people. Should we wait for that and then do something? Or should we take out their capabilites before they incinerate Israel (and fry Gaza, Jordan, Lebanon, Syria)?
Hassle:
I'm not preaching appeasement. But pre-emptive nuking (or conventional bombing) is morally wrong. Especially when it comes from the "freedom and peace loving" West.
Are the Iranians massed on our borders? No. Do they or all the Islamic countries combined have the capability of over-running the West? No. Did bombing the crap out of and then occupying Iraq or Afghanistan bring peace to these two countries? No.
The only thing another pre-emptive strike in the ME will do is make matters worse.
Are the Iranians amassing artillary in Lebanon, holding the Lebanon hostage through Hezbollah, and threatening to destroy a member state of the UN? Yes
Are the Sunni Arabs worried about being overrun by the Shia Persians? Yes
Do we have to worry about Iran causing trouble to its neighbours? Yes
Do we have to worry about Iraq or Afghanistan causing trouble to their neighbours? No
Iberia, with all due respect, you are an abject idiot.
No one has to be "massed on the borders" anymore.
And yes, the combined forces of the ME, should one of them possess nuclear weapons,could indeed overwhelm the West if the West didn't respond in kind. And I hope you understand what that would lead to.
If that happened, you would not be living in your
comfortable world for very long. Perhaps minutes at the most.
This isn't 1939 and this isn't Europe. The ability to wreak havoc all over the world by some insane power-hungry tyrant is in the here and now.
So you can talk about it being "morally wrong" as you experience the immoral forces snuff out your life and those of your loved ones.
Your sense of "morality" is vastly different than that of the enemy.
Iberia says "I'm not preaching appeasement." Really? Isn't your position -don't really do anything until it's too late?-
Read the column people! Coren didn't suggest nuking Tehran. If anyone has a better method of ensuring Iran does not get the bomb, I would like to hear it.
That is the goal - no bomb for Iran.
Iberia says..."But pre-emptive nuking (or conventional bombing) is morally wrong."
It must be great to live in a bubble and hand out these wonderfully warm and fuzzy pronouncements.
As for us war-crazy slobs, we're looking at Iran geting the nuclear bomb, having indicated how they want to -start- using it, and on whom.
I'm sure Iberia will have quite emotional postings when Tel Aviv is nuked.
I mourn for the increasingly rare quality of critical thinking.
Another pre-emptive strike by Israel. More, faster. ...-
Talks go on despite Gaza killings
NEWS.com.au - 50 minutes ago
by Sakher Abu El Oun in Gaza City. THREE Palestinians were shot dead by Israeli troops in the Gaza Strip on overnight as talks took place to exchange an Israeli soldier for Palestinian women and children. ...- googlenews
"a typical precursor to a mass murder attack:" End of BBC World News.
My Lud Worrierecster said: That Herr what's 'is name is...
Lord Appeaser said: Only words; don't worry; sip your tea, My Lud; we've heard it 1000 times. 'ow did your 'orse do at Epsom, My Lud? ...-
Gadahan issued the call to Islam to the American people, a typical precursor to a mass murder attack:
“Instead of killing yourself for Bush ... why not surrender to the truth (of Islam), escape from the unbelieving army and join the winning side. Time is running out so make the right choice before it’s too late,” he said.
For more about Adam Gadahn:
lgf: American Muslim: Taught by Siddiqi. ...-
LGF
lberia: Your response wasn't a surprise. I agree that appeasement wasn't the right word to use...you weren't proposing appeasement. What you were proposing was that we just close our eyes and wish the problems away. Stick your head in the sand and hope no one sees you.
Iran isn't going to go away...they aren't going to stop developing nuclear power...despite their claims to the contrary, they ARE going to develop nuclear weapons...and they ARE going to use them.
You can't just wish them away and they aren't going to stop on their own accord. So, someone has to stop them.
Is it morally correct to just stand there and let someone kill you?
This is a real-time description of the left liberal/socialist/MSM/Islamic fascists and their worldview.
All of them: Radical losers, losers, losers, losers. ...-
The radical loser (Long Read)
Der Spiegel ^ | 1/12/05 | Hans Magnus Enzensberger
Hans Magnus Enzensberger looks at the kind of ideological trigger required to ignite the radical loser - whether amok killer, murderer or terrorist - and make him explode.
Since before the attack on the World Trade Center, political scientists, sociologists and psychologists have been searching in vain for a reliable pattern. Neither poverty nor the experience of political repression alone seem to provide a satisfactory explanation for why young people actively seek out death in a grand bloody finale and aim to take as many people with them as possible. Is there a phenotype that displays the same characteristics down the ages and across all classes and cultures? No one pays any mind to the radical loser if they do not have to. And the feeling is mutual. As long as he is alone – and he is very much alone – he does not strike out. He appears unobtrusive, silent: a sleeper. But when he does draw attention to himself and enter the statistics, then he sparks consternation bordering on shock. For his very existence reminds the others of how little it would take to put them in his position. One might even assist the loser if only he would just give up. But he has no intention of doing so, and it does not look as if he would be partial to any assistance.
Many professions take the loser as the object of their studies and as the basis for their existence. Social psychologists, social workers, social policy experts, criminologists, therapists and others who do not count themselves among the losers would be out of work without him. But with the best will in the world, the client remains obscure to them: their empathy knows clearly-defined professional bounds. One thing they do know is that the radical loser is hard to get through to and, ultimately, unpredictable. Identifying the one person among the hundreds passing through their offices and surgeries who is prepared to go all the way is more than they are capable of. Maybe they sense that this is not just a social issue that can be repaired by bureaucratic means. For the loser keeps his ideas to himself. That is the trouble. He keeps quiet and waits. He lets nothing show, which is precisely why he is feared. In historical terms, this fear is very old, but today it is more justified than ever. Anyone with the smallest scrap of power within society will at times feel something of the huge destructive energy that lies within the radical loser and which no intervention can neutralize, however well-meaning or serious it might be.
But anyone wishing to understand the radical loser would be well advised to go a little further back. Progress has not put an end to human suffering, but it has changed it in no small way. Over the past two centuries, the more successful societies have fought for and established new rights, new expectations and new demands. They have done away with the notion of an inevitable fate. They have put concepts like human dignity and human rights on the agenda. The have democratized the struggle for recognition and awakened expectations of equality which they are unable to fulfil. And at the same time, they have made sure that inequality is constantly demonstrated to all of the planet's inhabitants round the clock on every television channel. As a result, with every stage of progress, people's capacity for disappointment has increased accordingly.
"Where cultural progress is genuinely successful and ills are cured, this progress is seldom received with enthusiasm," remarks the philosopher Odo Marquard (book): "Instead, they are taken for granted and attention focuses on those ills that remain. And these remaining ills are subject to the law of increasing annoyance. The more negative elements disappear from reality, the more annoying the remaining negative elements become, precisely because of this decrease in numbers."
This is an understatement. For what we are dealing with here is not annoyance, but murderous rage.
What the loser is obsessed with is a comparison that never works in his favour. Since the desire for recognition knows no limits, the pain threshold inevitably sinks and the affronts become more and more unbearable.
The irritability of the loser increases with every improvement that he notices in the lot of others.
The yardstick is never those who are worse off than himself.
In his eyes, it is not they who are constantly being insulted, humbled and humiliated, but only ever him, the radical loser. ...-
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1694568/posts
Native Stand-Offs A Failure of Common Sense?
Posted on Tuesday, August 29 @ by Motorcycleboy
Canadian Spotlight
Masked, camoflauge-wearing men attack police with baseball bats and pipes. Black, acrid smoke fills the air as large piles of tires are set alight less than a hundred meters away from a school where terrified students hide under desks. An explosion and fire rips through a Hydroelectric transformer near the battleground, plunging over 50,000 people into darkness. One could be forgiven for thinking this is a scene out of Beirut or Baghdad. But it’s not. ...-
http://www.canadaka.net/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=670
at the end of the day, a good percentage of the world's terror problems can be traced directly, or indirectly back to tehran and damascus...with funding provided by cowardly emirs, sheiks and tin pot dictators....forget the nukes...just non stop air strikes at strategic sites until both regimes collapse....and we better do it soon
maz2-
"In the NDP, Bev Desjarlais was stripped of her position in the Party’s shadow cabinet for failing to vote in favour of the Civil Marriage Act. She was the only NDP MP to vote against same-sex marriage."
Layton later ousted Bev Desjarlais as an NDP candidate.
Stoffer will be gone; a loser; dissent is verboten/forbidden in the socialist/fascist NDP. ...-
In socialist jargon/groupspeak this action is "solidarity". ...-
I find it disturbing that the leader of the NDP denies the democratic rights of Ministers of Parliament to pursue the will of their constituents who elected them. Fortunately, the Canadian people now are aware of Layton's beliefs. This guy is toast, in the next election.
Full moon 07 Sept. Cool Man. The Wicans, Greens, Nakeds, Left Moonbats are gathering... early this year. Brrrother, it's cold in the deserts at night. ...-
Greens set out to monitor Burning Man fair (Think it may contribute to "Global Warming")
UK Telegraph ^ | 9/2/06 | Catherine Elsworth
A counter-culture arts festival which champions alternative living is being vetted by environmentalists for its contribution to global warming. Burning Man bans the sale of anything but ice and coffee and declares clothing optional. The festival, which is expected to draw nearly 40,000 people to the Nevada desert this week, is described as an "experiment in temporary community dedicated to radical self-expression and radical self-reliance". It has few rules, no structure and features performances, installation art and music, which culminate in the symbolic burning of a large wooden man. A group of San Francisco scientists, calling themselves Cooling Man, have...
free republic
Testing... 123.
Phew! Thought I was kicked off the board, most of my posts are held for clearance. I disagree with this censorship. I would expect to be censored afterI post something that might be considered offensive, and not before. This before thought really annoys me.
I am a Social Conservative, a somewhat Fiscal Conservative, and a Libertarian through and through. I do not take kindly to anyone putting a muzzle upon my mouth, or restaints upon my limbs, without just cause.
Maz2, great post about Layton's inter party fascism. That gentleman is going down next election, and good riddance.
Mark,
I'm assuming there are multiple reasons your post may be held in the filter. (Did it include an url, etc.) Again assuming it's to repel the buttload of spam a popular site like this receives.
FWIW, our host could demand each one of us to end our posts with "God Save the Queen" as she's the one paying the bill so we can post.
cheers
According to the Calgary Sun, Reni Sentana-Ries has been sentenced to 16 months in jail because of his appalling hatred of Jews posted on his website.
His crime- accusing Jews of lying about the Holocaust, and engineering the AIDS epidemic to bring about a decline in world population.
He did not ensite violence against Jews, he simply proclaimed his scincerely held beliefs.
CONSTITUTION ACT, 1982
PART 1- Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms
Fundamental Freedoms
(b)freedom of thought, belief, opinion and expression, including freedom of the press and other media of communication;
If this gentleman is guilty of a hate crime, is there any Canadian not guilty by default, for their beliefs, depending upon who is sitting upon the bench in judgement?
just want to repeat
let's give them what they want
if they can catch
let's drop the bomb and watch on cnn
Saw a large moon like body falling in the North West sky sometime after 10 pm Saturday night.
If the moon is basketball in size, the falling *moonlet* we saw while walking the dog was golfball to baseball in relative size.
Much bigger than the usual *falling star* and no trailing tail.
Seems too large for a satellite but I guess that must have been EU*s Smart1 headed for a crash on the moon.
Later I checked with 10 x 70 binoculars but could find no sign of dust in the south Lake of Excellecnce area of the moon.
Gal on a bicycle also saw the big falling light in the sky and we agreed on it*s unusual large size.
Did anyone else see the object / sattelite?
= TG
Ex-liberal:
Yeah, Iraq and Afghanistan aren’t attacking their neigbours, but they also weren’t doing that when the US went to war against them. Now they are too busy self-destructing, thanks to the help of the West. They don’t "hate us for our freedoms" - they hate us for our meddling. Notice that they haven’t been blowing up any trains in Spain lately, have they?
Ralph:
"And yes, the combined forces of the ME, should one of them possess nuclear weapons,could indeed overwhelm the West if the West didn't respond in kind."
You are living in a fantasy world...how are they going to overwhelm the West? If any ME country dared to launch a nuclear attack, it would be incinerated, and they know that. You are naive to believe all of that Ahmadinejad rhetoric: The majority of Muslims (who are not fanatics) don’t want to be annihilated any more than we do.
Robert In Calgary:
"Isn't your position -don't really do anything until it's too late?"
Show me where I wrote "don’t do anything."
"Read the column people! Coren didn't suggest nuking Tehran."
You must have a reading problem . Here are two excerpts: "Put boldly and simply, we have to drop a nuclear bomb on Iran," and "A conventional attack would be insufficient."
It must be great to form an opinion from incomplete information, to be a decisive armchair warrior, and to hope for the death of millions of people. I also mourn for the increasingly rare quality of critical thinking.
Hassle:
Where did I propose that we "close our eyes and wish the problems away"? I think that this issue is being correctly dealt with at the moment...diplomatically, followed by sanctions if necessary and then, only if an attack is imminent, they should be hit, but hopefully not with nukes.
"...despite their claims to the contrary, they ARE going to develop nuclear weapons...and they ARE going to use them."
What makes you so sure that you are prepared to have millions of people die?
N. Korea supposedly has nukes and has threatened to use them...why haven’t they? Get a hold of your hysteria. No country is going to use nuclear weapons against the West because they are fully aware that they will pay the price.
And perhaps you should answer this question first: Is it morally correct to kill someone whom you only think may possibly want to kill you?
Ex-liberal:
Yeah, Iraq and Afghanistan aren’t attacking their neigbours, but they also weren’t doing that when the US went to war against them. Now they are too busy self-destructing, thanks to the help of the West. They don’t "hate us for our freedoms" - they hate us for our meddling. Notice that they haven’t been blowing up any trains in Spain lately, have they?
Ralph:
"And yes, the combined forces of the ME, should one of them possess nuclear weapons,could indeed overwhelm the West if the West didn't respond in kind."
You are living in a fantasy world...how are they going to overwhelm the West? If any ME country dared to launch a nuclear attack, it would be incinerated, and they know that. You are naive to believe all of that Ahmadinejad rhetoric: The majority of Muslims (who are not fanatics) don’t want to be annihilated any more than we do.
Robert In Calgary:
"Isn't your position -don't really do anything until it's too late?"
Show me where I wrote "don’t do anything."
"Read the column people! Coren didn't suggest nuking Tehran."
You must have a reading problem . Here are two excerpts: "Put boldly and simply, we have to drop a nuclear bomb on Iran," and "A conventional attack would be insufficient."
It must be great to form an opinion from incomplete information, to be a decisive armchair warrior, and to hope for the death of millions of people. I also mourn for the increasingly rare quality of critical thinking.
Hassle:
Where did I propose that we "close our eyes and wish the problems away"? I think that this issue is being correctly dealt with at the moment...diplomatically, followed by sanctions if necessary and then, only if an attack is imminent, they should be hit, but hopefully not with nukes.
"...despite their claims to the contrary, they ARE going to develop nuclear weapons...and they ARE going to use them."
What makes you so sure that you are prepared to have millions of people die?
N. Korea supposedly has nukes and has threatened to use them...why haven’t they? Get a hold of your hysteria. No country is going to use nuclear weapons against the West because they are fully aware that they will pay the price.
And perhaps you should answer this question first: Is it morally correct to kill someone whom you only think may possibly want to kill you?
Sorry for the double post.
THREAT OF WAR
Excess Baggage
The U.N. can't possibly stop Iran.
BY CLAUDIA ROSETT
Sunday, September 3, 2006
Despite last week's United Nations deadline for Iran to give up its nuclear bomb program, Iran has done no such thing. The next diplomatic move is supposed to be for the U.N. to impose sanctions on Iran. That won't work, either...
...A new country survey of Iran from the U.S. Department of Energy helps illustrate the problem. Along with Iran's $100 billion, 25-year bargain with China to develop natural gas, there are deals either signed or in the offing with the following list of countries: France, Turkey, Pakistan, India, Greece, Australia, Austria, Bulgaria, Romania, Hungary, Ukraine, Armenia, Norway, Kuwait, Turkmenistan and Iraq. Projects on the table range from huge oil and gas field investments, to pipelines, oil swaps and Indian service contracts. And for the blame-America-first crowd, the survey even mentions that "a foreign subsidiary of Halliburton Co. reportedly reached agreement," along with an Iranian partner, to help develop some of Iran's natural gas fields...
opinionjournal.com